Re: Gurman: Next Apple Watch Pro could feature long-rumored satellite functions, 9 to 5 Mac

2022-08-28 Thread Donna Casteen
This will be a great feature for those of us who like to go hiking in the 
mountains where there is no cell phone service.

Donna

> 
> Then just get a Zoleo and an unlimited plan and you can text all you want 
> via satellite. The nice thing with Zoleo is that if you use the Zoleo app on 
> your iPhone and have a Zoleo satellite communicator connected via Bluetooth 
> that if you do have cellular or Wi-Fi coverage the message is sent that way 
> except it may come from the dedicated phone number you get when you activate 
> a Zoleo, only if you have neither Wi-Fi nor cellular coverage will the 
> message go via satellite. Keep in mind it is text only, no pictures, no voice.
> Also keep in mind that if the big one hits it probably won't matter because 
> all of these devices don't do you much good if the electricity is out and you 
> can't recharge them.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Gurman: Next Apple Watch Pro could feature long-rumored 
> satellite functions, 9 to 5 Mac
> 
> I can imagine the marketing now... Will you be ready for when the big one 
> hits? Scientists say it's only a matter of time. Don't count on cellular 
> networks to hold up to the onslaught of panicked people all trying to 
> livestream, call and text at the same time. In a world where natural 
> disasters are more and more becoming the norm. Can you really afford not to 
> be prepared? It's a small price to pay for peace of mind. Just in case...
> Shoot. I think I may have just talked myself into getting one depending on 
> what other goodies the phone may have. I live like less than four miles from 
> the San Andreas fault.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Gurman: Next Apple Watch Pro could feature long-rumored 
> satellite functions, 9 to 5 Mac
> 
> Let's just keep in mind that even if the iPhone 14 may include the capability 
> to send out an emergency SOS via satellite , that first of all this may be 
> reserved to the Pro models as are so many of the cutting-edge features.
> Secondly, the feature will most certainly require an additional subscription 
> because while they mention this may give devices like the Garmin Inreach a 
> run for their money, a Garmin Inreach (the cheapest costs $529.99 Canadian 
> ($399.99 US) requires a monthly subscription which then allows the user to 
> send simple text messages via satellite as well as to send out an emergency 
> SOS which goes to the International Emergency Rescue Coordination Center. 
> From there a local search and rescue group is deployed if necessary.
> There are less expensive devices like the Zoleo Satellite Communicator which 
> costs $269.99 here in Canada, I assume maybe $199.99 in the US, but still the 
> subscription plans are all similar starting around $15 US or so a month 
> ($19.99 Canadian) for a basic plan where every message you sent costs money 
> all the way up to $49.99 or so ($70 Canadian) which gives you unlimited 
> messages.
> Both with the Inreach Mini or the Zoleo you are better off using your smart 
> phone to compose the messages, both can pair to your phone via Bluetooth so 
> you can type on the phone and just sent via the device. The Zoleo in fact 
> only has two buttons on the device itself, one sends a preprogrammed "I'm OK" 
> message and the other sends the emergency SOS which will activate search and 
> rescue to the location where the device is located. Garmin has much more 
> expensive devices such as the Montana 700I which is a full-fletched GPS with 
> touch screen which also includes Inreach functionality and since it has a 
> touch screen you can text directly from the device with an on-screen keyboard 
> like on the iPhone, but this guy is $$979.99 Canadian, probably about $749.99 
> or so US.
> Both Inreach and Zoleo by the way use the Iridium satellite network, another 
> one is Globalstar, it is used by the "Spot" family of devices which include 
> an asset tracker (a little device you can attach to a car, snowmobile, side 
> by side or other vehicle and which tracks its location) as well as similar 
> 2-way satellite messenger devices to the Inreach and Zoleo. In fact, the Spot 
> X is like a little Blackberry with an actual small physical keyboard on it, 
> but it's not nearly as popular at least here in northern BC because the 
> further north one goes in Canada (or Alaska) the worse is Globalstar which 
> has their satellites all over the equator.
&g

RE: Gurman: Next Apple Watch Pro could feature long-rumored satellite functions, 9 to 5 Mac

2022-08-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Then just get a Zoleo and an unlimited plan and you can text all you want via 
satellite. The nice thing with Zoleo is that if you use the Zoleo app on your 
iPhone and have a Zoleo satellite communicator connected via Bluetooth that if 
you do have cellular or Wi-Fi coverage the message is sent that way except it 
may come from the dedicated phone number you get when you activate a Zoleo, 
only if you have neither Wi-Fi nor cellular coverage will the message go via 
satellite. Keep in mind it is text only, no pictures, no voice.
Also keep in mind that if the big one hits it probably won't matter because all 
of these devices don't do you much good if the electricity is out and you can't 
recharge them.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Gurman: Next Apple Watch Pro could feature long-rumored satellite 
functions, 9 to 5 Mac

I can imagine the marketing now... Will you be ready for when the big one hits? 
Scientists say it's only a matter of time. Don't count on cellular networks to 
hold up to the onslaught of panicked people all trying to livestream, call and 
text at the same time. In a world where natural disasters are more and more 
becoming the norm. Can you really afford not to be prepared? It's a small price 
to pay for peace of mind. Just in case...
Shoot. I think I may have just talked myself into getting one depending on what 
other goodies the phone may have. I live like less than four miles from the San 
Andreas fault.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Gurman: Next Apple Watch Pro could feature long-rumored satellite 
functions, 9 to 5 Mac

Let's just keep in mind that even if the iPhone 14 may include the capability 
to send out an emergency SOS via satellite , that first of all this may be 
reserved to the Pro models as are so many of the cutting-edge features.
Secondly, the feature will most certainly require an additional subscription 
because while they mention this may give devices like the Garmin Inreach a run 
for their money, a Garmin Inreach (the cheapest costs $529.99 Canadian ($399.99 
US) requires a monthly subscription which then allows the user to send simple 
text messages via satellite as well as to send out an emergency SOS which goes 
to the International Emergency Rescue Coordination Center. From there a local 
search and rescue group is deployed if necessary.
There are less expensive devices like the Zoleo Satellite Communicator which 
costs $269.99 here in Canada, I assume maybe $199.99 in the US, but still the 
subscription plans are all similar starting around $15 US or so a month ($19.99 
Canadian) for a basic plan where every message you sent costs money all the way 
up to $49.99 or so ($70 Canadian) which gives you unlimited messages.
Both with the Inreach Mini or the Zoleo you are better off using your smart 
phone to compose the messages, both can pair to your phone via Bluetooth so you 
can type on the phone and just sent via the device. The Zoleo in fact only has 
two buttons on the device itself, one sends a preprogrammed "I'm OK" message 
and the other sends the emergency SOS which will activate search and rescue to 
the location where the device is located. Garmin has much more expensive 
devices such as the Montana 700I which is a full-fletched GPS with touch screen 
which also includes Inreach functionality and since it has a touch screen you 
can text directly from the device with an on-screen keyboard like on the 
iPhone, but this guy is $$979.99 Canadian, probably about $749.99 or so US.
Both Inreach and Zoleo by the way use the Iridium satellite network, another 
one is Globalstar, it is used by the "Spot" family of devices which include an 
asset tracker (a little device you can attach to a car, snowmobile, side by 
side or other vehicle and which tracks its location) as well as similar 2-way 
satellite messenger devices to the Inreach and Zoleo. In fact, the Spot X is 
like a little Blackberry with an actual small physical keyboard on it, but it's 
not nearly as popular at least here in northern BC because the further north 
one goes in Canada (or Alaska) the worse is Globalstar which has their 
satellites all over the equator.
 
Nonetheless I think it would be great if ultimately the iPhone and also Android 
phones could communicate via satellite and then customers who needed this 
functionality could simply subscribe to whatever plan Apple chooses to offer. 
Whether this will replace dedicated devices, however, is also questionable 
because devices like the Inreach Mini or Zoleo work for days or weeks on a 
single charge and we all know how long the iPhone battery lasts and if somebody 
is out on a 10 day hike or hunt one would have to carry an aw

RE: Gurman: Next Apple Watch Pro could feature long-rumored satellite functions, 9 to 5 Mac

2022-08-28 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz
I can imagine the marketing now... Will you be ready for when the big one hits? 
Scientists say it's only a matter of time. Don't count on cellular networks to 
hold up to the onslaught of panicked people all trying to livestream, call and 
text at the same time. In a world where natural disasters are more and more 
becoming the norm. Can you really afford not to be prepared? It's a small price 
to pay for peace of mind. Just in case...
Shoot. I think I may have just talked myself into getting one depending on what 
other goodies the phone may have. I live like less than four miles from the San 
Andreas fault.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Gurman: Next Apple Watch Pro could feature long-rumored satellite 
functions, 9 to 5 Mac

Let's just keep in mind that even if the iPhone 14 may include the capability 
to send out an emergency SOS via satellite , that first of all this may be 
reserved to the Pro models as are so many of the cutting-edge features.
Secondly, the feature will most certainly require an additional subscription 
because while they mention this may give devices like the Garmin Inreach a run 
for their money, a Garmin Inreach (the cheapest costs $529.99 Canadian ($399.99 
US) requires a monthly subscription which then allows the user to send simple 
text messages via satellite as well as to send out an emergency SOS which goes 
to the International Emergency Rescue Coordination Center. From there a local 
search and rescue group is deployed if necessary.
There are less expensive devices like the Zoleo Satellite Communicator which 
costs $269.99 here in Canada, I assume maybe $199.99 in the US, but still the 
subscription plans are all similar starting around $15 US or so a month ($19.99 
Canadian) for a basic plan where every message you sent costs money all the way 
up to $49.99 or so ($70 Canadian) which gives you unlimited messages.
Both with the Inreach Mini or the Zoleo you are better off using your smart 
phone to compose the messages, both can pair to your phone via Bluetooth so you 
can type on the phone and just sent via the device. The Zoleo in fact only has 
two buttons on the device itself, one sends a preprogrammed "I'm OK" message 
and the other sends the emergency SOS which will activate search and rescue to 
the location where the device is located. Garmin has much more expensive 
devices such as the Montana 700I which is a full-fletched GPS with touch screen 
which also includes Inreach functionality and since it has a touch screen you 
can text directly from the device with an on-screen keyboard like on the 
iPhone, but this guy is $$979.99 Canadian, probably about $749.99 or so US.
Both Inreach and Zoleo by the way use the Iridium satellite network, another 
one is Globalstar, it is used by the "Spot" family of devices which include an 
asset tracker (a little device you can attach to a car, snowmobile, side by 
side or other vehicle and which tracks its location) as well as similar 2-way 
satellite messenger devices to the Inreach and Zoleo. In fact, the Spot X is 
like a little Blackberry with an actual small physical keyboard on it, but it's 
not nearly as popular at least here in northern BC because the further north 
one goes in Canada (or Alaska) the worse is Globalstar which has their 
satellites all over the equator.
 
Nonetheless I think it would be great if ultimately the iPhone and also Android 
phones could communicate via satellite and then customers who needed this 
functionality could simply subscribe to whatever plan Apple chooses to offer. 
Whether this will replace dedicated devices, however, is also questionable 
because devices like the Inreach Mini or Zoleo work for days or weeks on a 
single charge and we all know how long the iPhone battery lasts and if somebody 
is out on a 10 day hike or hunt one would have to carry an awful lot of 
external batteries and/or solar charges to make sure you don't run out of 
juice. Still it would be a great option for people who go out for a day or who 
often drive in remote areas without cell connection where they can easily 
charge their iPhone in a vehicle.


Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Gurman: Next Apple Watch Pro could feature long-rumored satellite 
functions, 9 to 5 Mac

9to5Mac - Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 7:36 AM
Gurman: Next Apple Watch Pro could feature long-rumored satellite functions

For over a year, it's been rumored that Apple is working on the ability to 
bring satellite features to the iPhone. First suggested for the iPhone 13 
series, this function may now be available with the upcoming iPhone 14.
While this function could help iPhone users report 

RE: Gurman: Next Apple Watch Pro could feature long-rumored satellite functions, 9 to 5 Mac

2022-08-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Let's just keep in mind that even if the iPhone 14 may include the capability 
to send out an emergency SOS via satellite , that first of all this may be 
reserved to the Pro models as are so many of the cutting-edge features.
Secondly, the feature will most certainly require an additional subscription 
because while they mention this may give devices like the Garmin Inreach a run 
for their money, a Garmin Inreach (the cheapest costs $529.99 Canadian ($399.99 
US) requires a monthly subscription which then allows the user to send simple 
text messages via satellite as well as to send out an emergency SOS which goes 
to the International Emergency Rescue Coordination Center. From there a local 
search and rescue group is deployed if necessary.
There are less expensive devices like the Zoleo Satellite Communicator which 
costs $269.99 here in Canada, I assume maybe $199.99 in the US, but still the 
subscription plans are all similar starting around $15 US or so a month ($19.99 
Canadian) for a basic plan where every message you sent costs money all the way 
up to $49.99 or so ($70 Canadian) which gives you unlimited messages.
Both with the Inreach Mini or the Zoleo you are better off using your smart 
phone to compose the messages, both can pair to your phone via Bluetooth so you 
can type on the phone and just sent via the device. The Zoleo in fact only has 
two buttons on the device itself, one sends a preprogrammed "I'm OK" message 
and the other sends the emergency SOS which will activate search and rescue to 
the location where the device is located. Garmin has much more expensive 
devices such as the Montana 700I which is a full-fletched GPS with touch screen 
which also includes Inreach functionality and since it has a touch screen you 
can text directly from the device with an on-screen keyboard like on the 
iPhone, but this guy is $$979.99 Canadian, probably about $749.99 or so US.
Both Inreach and Zoleo by the way use the Iridium satellite network, another 
one is Globalstar, it is used by the "Spot" family of devices which include an 
asset tracker (a little device you can attach to a car, snowmobile, side by 
side or other vehicle and which tracks its location) as well as similar 2-way 
satellite messenger devices to the Inreach and Zoleo. In fact, the Spot X is 
like a little Blackberry with an actual small physical keyboard on it, but it's 
not nearly as popular at least here in northern BC because the further north 
one goes in Canada (or Alaska) the worse is Globalstar which has their 
satellites all over the equator.
 
Nonetheless I think it would be great if ultimately the iPhone and also Android 
phones could communicate via satellite and then customers who needed this 
functionality could simply subscribe to whatever plan Apple chooses to offer. 
Whether this will replace dedicated devices, however, is also questionable 
because devices like the Inreach Mini or Zoleo work for days or weeks on a 
single charge and we all know how long the iPhone battery lasts and if somebody 
is out on a 10 day hike or hunt one would have to carry an awful lot of 
external batteries and/or solar charges to make sure you don't run out of 
juice. Still it would be a great option for people who go out for a day or who 
often drive in remote areas without cell connection where they can easily 
charge their iPhone in a vehicle.


Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Gurman: Next Apple Watch Pro could feature long-rumored satellite 
functions, 9 to 5 Mac

9to5Mac - Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 7:36 AM
Gurman: Next Apple Watch Pro could feature long-rumored satellite functions

For over a year, it's been rumored that Apple is working on the ability to 
bring satellite features to the iPhone. First suggested for the iPhone 13 
series, this function may now be available with the upcoming iPhone 14.
While this function could help iPhone users report emergencies in areas without 
cellular service, it's now been discussed by Apple, bringing this functionality 
to a new generation of the rumored Apple Watch Pro.

The information comes from Bloomberg's Mark Gurman in his Power On newsletter. 
According to the journalist, a new generation of the not-announced rugged Apple 
Watch Pro could have satellite features.

The company has also internally discussed the idea of giving its watches 
satellite features, which could make sense for a future version of the new more 
rugged Apple Watch Pro.
In today's newsletter, Gurman discusses how big of a deal adding satellite 
connectivity to the iPhone could be.

That's a step up from the current iPhone and Apple Watch feature for quickly 
calling emergency services and providing them with your location. The features 
also will give stand-alone satellite-based devices, such as the Ga

Gurman: Next Apple Watch Pro could feature long-rumored satellite functions, 9 to 5 Mac

2022-08-28 Thread M. Taylor
9to5Mac - Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 7:36 AM
Gurman: Next Apple Watch Pro could feature long-rumored satellite functions

For over a year, it's been rumored that Apple is working on the ability to
bring satellite features to the iPhone. First suggested for the iPhone 13
series, this function may now be available with the upcoming iPhone 14.
While this function could help iPhone users report emergencies in areas
without cellular service, it's now been discussed by Apple, bringing this
functionality to a new generation of the rumored Apple Watch Pro.

The information comes from Bloomberg's Mark Gurman in his Power On
newsletter. According to the journalist, a new generation of the
not-announced rugged Apple Watch Pro could have satellite features.

The company has also internally discussed the idea of giving its watches
satellite features, which could make sense for a future version of the new
more rugged Apple Watch Pro.
In today's newsletter, Gurman discusses how big of a deal adding satellite
connectivity to the iPhone could be.

That's a step up from the current iPhone and Apple Watch feature for quickly
calling emergency services and providing them with your location. The
features also will give stand-alone satellite-based devices, such as the
Garmin inReach, a run for their money. (.) The prospect of having an iPhone
that can reach first responders without a cellular connection is only the
beginning of what Apple is planning. Ultimately, users could have global
internet access and be able to make regular phone calls over satellite
links. The combination of speedy 5G networks and satellite service could one
day turn the iPhone into the most powerful global communications device
available.

While this feature is not expected for the first generation of the rumored
Apple Watch Pro, there are a few features expected for this Watch, as you
can read more below.
What to expect from the Apple Watch Pro?
 
On September 7, Apple will announce the iPhone 14 alongside the Apple Watch
Series 8. A new Apple Watch SE and this rugged Apple Watch Pro are also
rumored to be announced at the "Far Out" keynote.
According to reporting from Mark Gurman, the Apple Watch Pro will visually
differentiate itself from the Apple Watch Series 8 with a new design,
although rumors diverge on whether it will have or not flat edges. Gurman
talks about an "evolution of the current rectangular shape."

One of the key changes to the Apple Watch Pro will be the materials from
which it's made. Currently, the Apple Watch is available in aluminum,
stainless steel, and titanium. The Apple Watch Pro will reportedly feature a
"more durable formulation of titanium" as part of Apple's efforts to make it
as rugged as possible. 
Alongside that larger design, the Watch is also reportedly set to feature
improved battery life. Longer battery life is going to be a key factor for
the "extreme sports" buyers of this Apple Watch, and that is seemingly
something Apple is aware of. 

Much like the Apple Watch Series 8, this new Apple Watch Pro is expected to
add support for body temperature measurements. The Apple Watch won't be able
to give you an exact measurement of your body temperature, but rather it
would send you an alert when it detected that your temperature is elevated.
Then, you could take your temperature using a traditional thermometer. 

Are you excited about this new watch and its satellite features? Share your
thoughts in the comment section below.

Original article at:
https://9to5mac.com/2022/08/28/apple-watch-pro-satellite-features/



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