RE: KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

2017-03-05 Thread Mr. Ed 
Hi Richard,
I have the KNFB app on my iPhone. I have now downloaded it to my pc. When I hit 
the scan image button the KNFB app closes and my pc goes back to the desktop. I 
emailed KNFB tech support and receive an email back saying their might be some 
issues with some scanner. Well I must be one of the lucky ones. Support said 
they would be working on an update to fix the issue.
Mr. Ed 

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Subject: KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

KNFB Reader for Windows 10 in this first version does not hold a candle to any 
other OCR solution on Windows!
Granted, I'm comparing an inexpensive option with a very expensive one, but if 
KNFB intends to be a real option in the Windows computing world, they have an 
extremely long way to go.
I have a Toshiba Satellite S 55 laptop running Windows 10 Anniversary edition 
and a Canon LIDE 110 flatbed scanner.

I just scanned the same page with OpenBook 9 and KNFB Reader for Windows 10.
As far as speed goes, KNFB Reader and Openbook tied. They both start reading 
before the scanner is ready for the next page.
KNFB Reader can export to DOCX files, while OpenBook still exports to DOC 
files, the older MS-Word format.
When I open the KNFB Reader DOCX file, I get the warning that files from the 
internet can harm your computer and I have to hit f6 to get to the point of 
being able to make the document editable.
With OpenBook, it simply opens in compatibility view.
Both pages passed the spell check without any errors.
Now, for my pet Peeve.
The KNFB Reader file takes up 2.81 inches of the document.
The OpenBook copy takes up 6.37 inches of the document, which is correct. The 
page has just over half a page of text. 


OpenBook maintains the line breaks, while KNFB Reader does not.

For what it is worth, I also tested with the latest versions of TextGrabber and 
Prizmo on the iPhone.
"" They both maintain line breaks and had no errors.
Prizmo has some new VoiceOver issues in their latest version, but Textgrabber 
seems to be much improved.
I'll have to test that more. It is far less smooth for saving files, etc., but 
I'm getting really tired of losing all the line breaks with KNFB Reader.
Richard


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Re: KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

2017-03-05 Thread Richard Turner 

I also use the split pages if I am scanning from a book so the two pages are 
separated. It would be nice if KNFB Reader could add that as well. 
Richard



"I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when 
there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." - Terry Pratchett

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> 
> Hello. Openbook has a check orientation feature. I use this feature to make 
> sure I'm inserting checks into my laser printer. This feature is one of my 
> requirements. 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> KNFB Reader for Windows 10 in this first version does not hold a candle to 
>> any other OCR solution on Windows!
>> Granted, I'm comparing an inexpensive option with a very expensive one, but 
>> if KNFB intends to be a real option in the Windows computing world, they 
>> have an extremely long way to go.
>> I have a Toshiba Satellite S 55 laptop running Windows 10 Anniversary 
>> edition and a Canon LIDE 110 flatbed scanner.
>> 
>> I just scanned the same page with OpenBook 9 and KNFB Reader for Windows 10.
>> As far as speed goes, KNFB Reader and Openbook tied. They both start reading 
>> before the scanner is ready for the next page.
>> KNFB Reader can export to DOCX files, while OpenBook still exports to DOC 
>> files, the older MS-Word format.
>> When I open the KNFB Reader DOCX file, I get the warning that files from the 
>> internet can harm your computer and I have to hit f6 to get to the point of 
>> being able to make the document editable.
>> With OpenBook, it simply opens in compatibility view.
>> Both pages passed the spell check without any errors.
>> Now, for my pet Peeve.
>> The KNFB Reader file takes up 2.81 inches of the document.
>> The OpenBook copy takes up 6.37 inches of the document, which is correct. 
>> The page has just over half a page of text. 
>> 
>> 
>> OpenBook maintains the line breaks, while KNFB Reader does not.
>> 
>> For what it is worth, I also tested with the latest versions of TextGrabber 
>> and Prizmo on the iPhone.
>> "" They both maintain line breaks and had no errors.
>> Prizmo has some new VoiceOver issues in their latest version, but 
>> Textgrabber seems to be much improved.
>> I'll have to test that more. It is far less smooth for saving files, etc., 
>> but I'm getting really tired of losing all the line breaks with KNFB Reader.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
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>> there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." - Terry Pratchett
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Re: KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

2017-03-04 Thread Paul Hunt 
Hello. Openbook has a check orientation feature. I use this feature to make 
sure I'm inserting checks into my laser printer. This feature is one of my 
requirements. 

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> KNFB Reader for Windows 10 in this first version does not hold a candle to 
> any other OCR solution on Windows!
> Granted, I'm comparing an inexpensive option with a very expensive one, but 
> if KNFB intends to be a real option in the Windows computing world, they have 
> an extremely long way to go.
> I have a Toshiba Satellite S 55 laptop running Windows 10 Anniversary edition 
> and a Canon LIDE 110 flatbed scanner.
> 
> I just scanned the same page with OpenBook 9 and KNFB Reader for Windows 10.
> As far as speed goes, KNFB Reader and Openbook tied. They both start reading 
> before the scanner is ready for the next page.
> KNFB Reader can export to DOCX files, while OpenBook still exports to DOC 
> files, the older MS-Word format.
> When I open the KNFB Reader DOCX file, I get the warning that files from the 
> internet can harm your computer and I have to hit f6 to get to the point of 
> being able to make the document editable.
> With OpenBook, it simply opens in compatibility view.
> Both pages passed the spell check without any errors.
> Now, for my pet Peeve.
> The KNFB Reader file takes up 2.81 inches of the document.
> The OpenBook copy takes up 6.37 inches of the document, which is correct. The 
> page has just over half a page of text. 
> 
> 
> OpenBook maintains the line breaks, while KNFB Reader does not.
> 
> For what it is worth, I also tested with the latest versions of TextGrabber 
> and Prizmo on the iPhone.
> "" They both maintain line breaks and had no errors.
> Prizmo has some new VoiceOver issues in their latest version, but Textgrabber 
> seems to be much improved.
> I'll have to test that more. It is far less smooth for saving files, etc., 
> but I'm getting really tired of losing all the line breaks with KNFB Reader.
> Richard
> 
> 
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> there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." - Terry Pratchett
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KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

2017-03-04 Thread Richard Turner 
KNFB Reader for Windows 10 in this first version does not hold a candle to any 
other OCR solution on Windows!
Granted, I'm comparing an inexpensive option with a very expensive one, but if 
KNFB intends to be a real option in the Windows computing world, they have an 
extremely long way to go.
I have a Toshiba Satellite S 55 laptop running Windows 10 Anniversary edition 
and a Canon LIDE 110 flatbed scanner.

I just scanned the same page with OpenBook 9 and KNFB Reader for Windows 10.
As far as speed goes, KNFB Reader and Openbook tied. They both start reading 
before the scanner is ready for the next page.
KNFB Reader can export to DOCX files, while OpenBook still exports to DOC 
files, the older MS-Word format.
When I open the KNFB Reader DOCX file, I get the warning that files from the 
internet can harm your computer and I have to hit f6 to get to the point of 
being able to make the document editable.
With OpenBook, it simply opens in compatibility view.
Both pages passed the spell check without any errors.
Now, for my pet Peeve.
The KNFB Reader file takes up 2.81 inches of the document.
The OpenBook copy takes up 6.37 inches of the document, which is correct. The 
page has just over half a page of text. 


OpenBook maintains the line breaks, while KNFB Reader does not.

For what it is worth, I also tested with the latest versions of TextGrabber and 
Prizmo on the iPhone.
"" They both maintain line breaks and had no errors.
Prizmo has some new VoiceOver issues in their latest version, but Textgrabber 
seems to be much improved.
I'll have to test that more. It is far less smooth for saving files, etc., but 
I'm getting really tired of losing all the line breaks with KNFB Reader.
Richard


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