Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard
On the bottom of the keyboard left of the space bar, for any Apple keyboard, the buttons are function, control, option, command, space bar. Press and hold control and option to tell VO that any other key(s) at the same time gives VO commands. The commands are the same as on the Mac. If your keyboard is Windows rather than Mac, the keys are probably function, control, windows, alt, space bar. In this case, I believe Apple maps windows to command and alt to option. If this is correct and you have a Windows keyboard, the VO keys would be control and alt. So, the home button is VO h, double-tap is VO space, launching keyboard help is VO k, and so forth. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 18:24, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Also, what is this control option? I'm not understanding here, do you mean a function key of sorts? I'm assuming that this is what you mean but if not, maybe that's why I'm not getting my bt keyboard to work... - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth TabletKeyboard When VO is active, keyboard commands are available. They use the control option (VO) key combination to work. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 12:10, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Everyone has their preference. Not ever having bought a bt keyboard before, I was unawhare that this feature was not available at all and that I would still have to use my iPhone home screen to activate icons. Keep in mind, that some of us are just not as informed. Now that I know, I will *use what's available.** - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:09PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available. As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you want. :-) David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct keyboardinterface. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the general public. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are the ones I've been saving. iOS Keyboard shortcut commands VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option General navigation Keys Action VO plus left or right Select previous or next item VO plus up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option VO plus Space Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) VO plus H Go to home screen VO plus H 2 times Open/close multitask pane Escape Go back, cancel, closepop-up Cmd plus Tab Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous VO plus A Read all from first object in selected area VO plus B Read all from selected item VO plus M Move to status bar VO plus I Open Item Chooser for current area VO plus F Search and go to match with Enter VO plus G Next search match, hold Shift for previous Handling VoiceOver Keys Action Control Pause/resume speech VO plus S Toggle speech off/on VO plus Shift plus S Toggle Screen Curtain on/off VO plus Cmd plus up or down Adjust the selected speech rotor option VO plus Cmd plus left or right Change the speech rotor setting VO plus / (slash) Add label to selected item VO plus K Start VoiceOver training, Escape to exit Quick Nav Commands Turn on Quick Nav to use these commands by pressing left plus right keys at the same time Keys Action up plus down Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) left or right Selects the previous or next item up
Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard
(consumer) focused, people overwhelmingly prefer touch-screen direct access and manipulation of visual icons. They overwhelmingly report such interfaces are much more natural. Also, errors decrease significantly and productivity increases significantly when touch-screen interfaces are used. These are facts, not speculation or wishful thinking. New academic studies come out very regularly from different sectors which show very similar results. Now that acceptance and adoption of touch-screen technology has achieved critical mass, touch-screen control interfaces are becoming (and in many sectors have become) less expensive than traditional control interfaces using physical controls such as buttons, switches, knobs, and sliders. What this means is, the haptics rich environment of physical controls that we blind people prefer is continuing to disappear, and will continue disappearing. As the demand for such control interfaces reduces, costs for said interfaces will rise. This is how the market works. A sighted friend who always use to carry a bluetooth keyboard with him now does all his typing on his iPhone's onscreen keyboard when he is out. As he told me, once he got use to it, he no longer needs to carry, or worry about, the Bluetooth keyboard. We all know exceptions, but in general, the overwhelming majority of people studied, from many different groups and countries, prefer the direct influence they receive when utilising touch-screen interfaces. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 11:16, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure I'm following the thread below, but there's nothing wrong in requesting a feature. We can't always just accept what's out there or things will never change and get better. I can also see a sighted user using a bluetooth keyboard and not wanting to remove their hands from the keyboard to interact with the touch screen, so if I understand the point in this thread, it doesn't seem so unreasonable to me. On 04/03/2013 05:09 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available. As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you want. :-) David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net mailto:kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol. - Original Message - *From:* David Chittenden mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM *Subject:* Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct keyboard interface. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the general public. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are the ones I've been saving. iOS Keyboard shortcut commands VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option General navigation Keys Action VO plus left or right Select previous or next item VO plus up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option VO plus Space Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) VO plus H Go to home screen VO plus H 2 times Open/close multitask pane Escape Go back, cancel, close pop-up Cmd plus Tab Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous VO plus A Read all from first object in selected area VO plus B Read all from selected item VO plus M Move to status bar VO plus I Open Item Chooser for current area VO plus F Search and go to match with Enter VO plus G Next search match, hold Shift for previous Handling VoiceOver Keys Action Control Pause/resume speech VO plus S Toggle speech off/on VO plus Shift plus S Toggle Screen Curtain on/off VO plus Cmd plus up or down Adjust the selected
Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard
Both my children are a wiz at typing on a virtual screen with their thumbs. my sighted wife is getting much faster at typing on it as well.. I just went to the Amazon Basics Bluetooth keyboard because I can type much faster on it then I can on the virtual keyboard on my iPhone. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:48 PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard Ok, step outside what you know. The following has been studied numerous times in many fields across the consumer information sectors. It includes everything from information kiosks and cash machines in very diverse venues to mobile information communication technology of various types and brands. When the interface is end-user (consumer) focused, people overwhelmingly prefer touch-screen direct access and manipulation of visual icons. They overwhelmingly report such interfaces are much more natural. Also, errors decrease significantly and productivity increases significantly when touch-screen interfaces are used. These are facts, not speculation or wishful thinking. New academic studies come out very regularly from different sectors which show very similar results. Now that acceptance and adoption of touch-screen technology has achieved critical mass, touch-screen control interfaces are becoming (and in many sectors have become) less expensive than traditional control interfaces using physical controls such as buttons, switches, knobs, and sliders. What this means is, the haptics rich environment of physical controls that we blind people prefer is continuing to disappear, and will continue disappearing. As the demand for such control interfaces reduces, costs for said interfaces will rise. This is how the market works. A sighted friend who always use to carry a bluetooth keyboard with him now does all his typing on his iPhone's onscreen keyboard when he is out. As he told me, once he got use to it, he no longer needs to carry, or worry about, the Bluetooth keyboard. We all know exceptions, but in general, the overwhelming majority of people studied, from many different groups and countries, prefer the direct influence they receive when utilising touch-screen interfaces. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 11:16, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure I'm following the thread below, but there's nothing wrong in requesting a feature. We can't always just accept what's out there or things will never change and get better. I can also see a sighted user using a bluetooth keyboard and not wanting to remove their hands from the keyboard to interact with the touch screen, so if I understand the point in this thread, it doesn't seem so unreasonable to me. On 04/03/2013 05:09 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available. As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you want. :-) David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net mailto:kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol. - Original Message - *From:* David Chittenden mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM *Subject:* Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct keyboard interface. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the general public. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are the ones I've been saving. iOS Keyboard shortcut commands VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option General navigation Keys Action VO plus left or right Select previous or next item VO plus up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option VO plus Space Activate the selected item. (open app
Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard
Kayla, You want to press control and option at the same time you press other keys. On Apr 4, 2013, at 12:24 AM, KK2006 wrote: Also, what is this control option? I'm not understanding here, do you mean a function key of sorts? I'm assuming that this is what you mean but if not, maybe that's why I'm not getting my bt keyboard to work... - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is active, keyboard commands are available. They use the control option (VO) key combination to work. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 12:10, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Everyone has their preference. Not ever having bought a bt keyboard before, I was unawhare that this feature was not available at all and that I would still have to use my iPhone home screen to activate icons. Keep in mind, that some of us are just not as informed. Now that I know, I will *use what's available.** - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:09 PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available. As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you want. :-) David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct keyboard interface. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the general public. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are the ones I've been saving. iOS Keyboard shortcut commands VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option General navigation Keys Action VO plus left or right Select previous or next item VO plus up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option VO plus Space Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) VO plus H Go to home screen VO plus H 2 times Open/close multitask pane Escape Go back, cancel, close pop-up Cmd plus Tab Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous VO plus A Read all from first object in selected area VO plus B Read all from selected item VO plus M Move to status bar VO plus I Open Item Chooser for current area VO plus F Search and go to match with Enter VO plus G Next search match, hold Shift for previous Handling VoiceOver Keys Action Control Pause/resume speech VO plus S Toggle speech off/on VO plus Shift plus S Toggle Screen Curtain on/off VO plus Cmd plus up or down Adjust the selected speech rotor option VO plus Cmd plus left or right Change the speech rotor setting VO plus / (slash) Add label to selected item VO plus K Start VoiceOver training, Escape to exit Quick Nav Commands Turn on Quick Nav to use these commands by pressing left plus right keys at the same time Keys Action up plus down Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) left or right Selects the previous or next item up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option up plus left or right Change to next or previous rotor setting Option plus left or right Move to next or previous horizontal screen/page Option plus up or down Move/scroll up or down the screen/page Control plus up or down Select the first or last item in the area Control plus left or right Go to next or previous container/area Safari Web Shortcuts Hold Shift for previous Keys Action H Next heading 1 to 6 Next respective heading level 1–6 L Next link S Next text element W Next landmark R Next text field X Next list T Next table M Next element of same type I Next image B Next button C Next form element Other keyboard commands
Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard
Hellow, If I'm in an app I normally just hit the escape key in the top left of the keyboard. In terms of moving between the icons etc I do voiceover left or right arrow, then voiceover space. (voiceover being control options) Hope that helps, Harmony. On 3 Apr 2013, at 04:37, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi all, I just bought the Logitech Tablet Blue Tooth Keyboard from Best Buy this evening. It has a great feel. It was originally designed for the ipad but seems to work with the iPhone 4S just fine. Having said that, I don't know where to even begin accessing the homescreen button and cannot seem to click on any icons. There is a fifteen day money back garentee, if it doesn't work, I can always send it back... Thanks for any help you may be able to provide! Kindly, Kayla K -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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The home button is the fourth in from the right. Jen Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2013, at 9:37 PM, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi all, I just bought the Logitech Tablet Blue Tooth Keyboard from Best Buy this evening. It has a great feel. It was originally designed for the ipad but seems to work with the iPhone 4S just fine. Having said that, I don't know where to even begin accessing the homescreen button and cannot seem to click on any icons. There is a fifteen day money back garentee, if it doesn't work, I can always send it back... Thanks for any help you may be able to provide! Kindly, Kayla K -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard
started to where you move to in the middle of the next line. On a Mac you can check your selections while you work, but here you can't. For more background details on how these commands work for selection, see my archived post on Moving and Selecting in Cocoa Apps: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg02038.html Media Controls F3 - Previous Track F4 - Play/pause F5 - Next track F6 - Mute/unmute F7 - Decrease Volume F8 - Increase volume - Original Message - From: KK2006 To: viphone list Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 8:37 PM Subject: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard Hi all, I just bought the Logitech Tablet Blue Tooth Keyboard from Best Buy this evening. It has a great feel. It was originally designed for the ipad but seems to work with the iPhone 4S just fine. Having said that, I don't know where to even begin accessing the homescreen button and cannot seem to click on any icons. There is a fifteen day money back garentee, if it doesn't work, I can always send it back... Thanks for any help you may be able to provide! Kindly, Kayla K -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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the option key, then press command up arrow to move to the start of the document without releasing the shift key, you will end up reversing the selection of the words you started with, and selecting all of your document from your starting point to the beginning of the document. Similarly, when you arrow down from the middle of a line and hold down the shift key, you select all characters from where you started to where you move to in the middle of the next line. On a Mac you can check your selections while you work, but here you can't. For more background details on how these commands work for selection, see my archived post on Moving and Selecting in Cocoa Apps: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg02038.html Media Controls F3 - Previous Track F4 - Play/pause F5 - Next track F6 - Mute/unmute F7 - Decrease Volume F8 - Increase volume - Original Message - From: KK2006 To: viphone list Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 8:37 PM Subject: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard Hi all, I just bought the Logitech Tablet Blue Tooth Keyboard from Best Buy this evening. It has a great feel. It was originally designed for the ipad but seems to work with the iPhone 4S just fine. Having said that, I don't know where to even begin accessing the homescreen button and cannot seem to click on any icons. There is a fifteen day money back garentee, if it doesn't work, I can always send it back... Thanks for any help you may be able to provide! Kindly, Kayla K -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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sequences work: control a - move to beginning of line control e - move to end of line control b - move back a character control f - move forward a character control h - backwards delete a character control k - delete to end of line control m - insert line feed (blank line) Selections are slightly tricky, because they are based on your current insertion point, so if you select a few words forward by holding down the shift key and tapping the option key, then press command up arrow to move to the start of the document without releasing the shift key, you will end up reversing the selection of the words you started with, and selecting all of your document from your starting point to the beginning of the document. Similarly, when you arrow down from the middle of a line and hold down the shift key, you select all characters from where you started to where you move to in the middle of the next line. On a Mac you can check your selections while you work, but here you can't. For more background details on how these commands work for selection, see my archived post on Moving and Selecting in Cocoa Apps: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg02038.html Media Controls F3 - Previous Track F4 - Play/pause F5 - Next track F6 - Mute/unmute F7 - Decrease Volume F8 - Increase volume - Original Message - From: KK2006 To: viphone list Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 8:37 PM Subject: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard Hi all, I just bought the Logitech Tablet Blue Tooth Keyboard from Best Buy this evening. It has a great feel. It was originally designed for the ipad but seems to work with the iPhone 4S just fine. Having said that, I don't know where to even begin accessing the homescreen button and cannot seem to click on anyicons. There is a fifteen day money back garentee, if it doesn't work, I can always send it back... Thanks for any help you may be able toprovide! Kindly, Kayla K -- You received this message because you are subscribed to theVIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard
Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct keyboard interface. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the general public. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are the ones I've been saving. iOS Keyboard shortcut commands VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option General navigation Keys Action VO plus left or right Select previous or next item VO plus up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option VO plus Space Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) VO plus H Go to home screen VO plus H 2 times Open/close multitask pane Escape Go back, cancel, close pop-up Cmd plus Tab Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous VO plus A Read all from first object in selected area VO plus B Read all from selected item VO plus M Move to status bar VO plus I Open Item Chooser for current area VO plus F Search and go to match with Enter VO plus G Next search match, hold Shift for previous Handling VoiceOver Keys Action Control Pause/resume speech VO plus S Toggle speech off/on VO plus Shift plus S Toggle Screen Curtain on/off VO plus Cmd plus up or down Adjust the selected speech rotor option VO plus Cmd plus left or right Change the speech rotor setting VO plus / (slash) Add label to selected item VO plus K Start VoiceOver training, Escape to exit Quick Nav Commands Turn on Quick Nav to use these commands by pressing left plus right keys at the same time Keys Action up plus down Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) left or right Selects the previous or next item up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option up plus left or right Change to next or previous rotor setting Option plus left or right Move to next or previous horizontal screen/page Option plus up or down Move/scroll up or down the screen/page Control plus up or down Select the first or last item in the area Control plus left or right Go to next or previous container/area Safari Web Shortcuts Hold Shift for previous Keys Action H Next heading 1 to 6 Next respective heading level 1–6 L Next link S Next text element W Next landmark R Next text field X Next list T Next table M Next element of same type I Next image B Next button C Next form element Other keyboard commands with Quicknav off Esther Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:03:26 -0700 (from: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg26148.html Apple Wireless Keyboard, also works on the AmazonBasics KT-1081 eject - toggle showing / hiding virtual keyboard (this key is at top right) tab - move to next text field (e.g. in mail) shift tab - move to previous text field command z - undo shift command z - redo command x - cut command c - copy command v - paste command a - select all control - stops and restarts VoiceOver speaking (e.g., in the middle of a two finger flick up or down to read all) command space - change to next language keyboard (when you have more than one selected) shift command space - change to previous language keyboard General movement and selection commands with command, option, and arrow key combinations. (For these sequences, holding down the shift key will select as well as move your cursor. On a PC keyboard, the control key can be substituted for some, but not all instances of the command key. On some keyboards, the Windows key may replace the function of the command key.) left / right arrows - move left or right by character shift left / right arrows - select left or right by character option left / right arrows - move left or right by word shift option left / right arrows - select left or right by word command left / right arrows - move to beginning or end
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Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available. As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you want. :-) David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth TabletKeyboard When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct keyboard interface. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the general public. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are the ones I've been saving. iOS Keyboard shortcut commands VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option General navigation Keys Action VO plus left or right Select previous or next item VO plus up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option VO plus Space Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) VO plus H Go to home screen VO plus H 2 times Open/close multitask pane Escape Go back, cancel, close pop-up Cmd plus Tab Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous VO plus A Read all from first object in selected area VO plus B Read all from selected item VO plus M Move to status bar VO plus I Open Item Chooser for current area VO plus F Search and go to match with Enter VO plus G Next search match, hold Shift for previous Handling VoiceOver Keys Action Control Pause/resume speech VO plus S Toggle speech off/on VO plus Shift plus S Toggle Screen Curtain on/off VO plus Cmd plus up or down Adjust the selected speech rotor option VO plus Cmd plus left or right Change the speech rotor setting VO plus / (slash) Add label to selected item VO plus K Start VoiceOver training, Escape to exit Quick Nav Commands Turn on Quick Nav to use these commands by pressing left plus right keys at the same time Keys Action up plus down Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) left or right Selects the previous or next item up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option up plus left or right Change to next or previous rotor setting Option plus left or right Move to next or previous horizontal screen/page Option plus up or down Move/scroll up or down the screen/page Control plus up or down Select the first or last item in the area Control plus left or right Go to next or previous container/area Safari Web Shortcuts Hold Shift for previous Keys Action H Next heading 1 to 6 Next respective heading level 1–6 L Next link S Next text element W Next landmark R Next text field X Next list T Next table M Next element of same type I Next image B Next button C Next form element Other keyboard commands with Quicknav off Esther Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:03:26 -0700 (from: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg26148.html Apple Wireless Keyboard, also works on the AmazonBasics KT-1081 eject - toggle showing / hiding virtual keyboard (this key is at top right) tab - move to next text field (e.g. in mail) shift tab - move to previous text field command z - undo shift command z - redo command x - cut command c - copy command v - paste command a - select all control - stops and restarts VoiceOverspeaking (e.g., in the middle of a two finger flick up or down to read all) command space - change to next language keyboard (when you have more than one selected) shift command space - change to previous language keyboard General movement and selection commands with command, option, and arrow key combinations. (For these sequences, holding down the shift key will select as well as move your cursor. On a PC keyboard, the control key can be substituted for some, but not all instances of the command key. On some keyboards, the Windows key may replace the function of the command key.) left / right arrows - move left or right bycharacter shift left / right arrows - select left or right by character option left / right arrows
Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard
Well, I'm not sure I'm following the thread below, but there's nothing wrong in requesting a feature. We can't always just accept what's out there or things will never change and get better. I can also see a sighted user using a bluetooth keyboard and not wanting to remove their hands from the keyboard to interact with the touch screen, so if I understand the point in this thread, it doesn't seem so unreasonable to me. On 04/03/2013 05:09 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available. As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you want. :-) David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net mailto:kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol. - Original Message - *From:* David Chittenden mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM *Subject:* Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct keyboard interface. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the general public. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are the ones I've been saving. iOS Keyboard shortcut commands VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option General navigation Keys Action VO plus left or right Select previous or next item VO plus up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option VO plus Space Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) VO plus H Go to home screen VO plus H 2 times Open/close multitask pane Escape Go back, cancel, close pop-up Cmd plus Tab Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous VO plus A Read all from first object in selected area VO plus B Read all from selected item VO plus M Move to status bar VO plus I Open Item Chooser for current area VO plus F Search and go to match with Enter VO plus G Next search match, hold Shift for previous Handling VoiceOver Keys Action Control Pause/resume speech VO plus S Toggle speech off/on VO plus Shift plus S Toggle Screen Curtain on/off VO plus Cmd plus up or down Adjust the selected speech rotor option VO plus Cmd plus left or right Change the speech rotor setting VO plus / (slash) Add label to selected item VO plus K Start VoiceOver training, Escape to exit Quick Nav Commands Turn on Quick Nav to use these commands by pressing left plus right keys at the same time Keys Action up plus down Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) left or right Selects the previous or next item up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option up plus left or right Change to next or previous rotor setting Option plus left or right Move to next or previous horizontal screen/page Option plus up or down Move/scroll up or down the screen/page Control plus up or down Select the first or last item in the area Control plus left or right Go to next or previous container/area Safari Web Shortcuts Hold Shift for previous Keys Action H Next heading 1 to 6 Next respective heading level 1–6 L Next link S Next text element W Next landmark R Next text field X Next list T Next table M Next element of same type I Next image B Next button C Next form element Other keyboard commands with Quicknav off Esther Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:03:26 -0700 (from: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg26148.html Apple Wireless Keyboard, also works on the AmazonBasics KT-1081 eject - toggle showing / hiding virtual keyboard (this key is at top right) tab - move to next text field (e.g. in mail) shift tab - move to previous text field command z - undo shift command z - redo
Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard
Ok, step outside what you know. The following has been studied numerous times in many fields across the consumer information sectors. It includes everything from information kiosks and cash machines in very diverse venues to mobile information communication technology of various types and brands. When the interface is end-user (consumer) focused, people overwhelmingly prefer touch-screen direct access and manipulation of visual icons. They overwhelmingly report such interfaces are much more natural. Also, errors decrease significantly and productivity increases significantly when touch-screen interfaces are used. These are facts, not speculation or wishful thinking. New academic studies come out very regularly from different sectors which show very similar results. Now that acceptance and adoption of touch-screen technology has achieved critical mass, touch-screen control interfaces are becoming (and in many sectors have become) less expensive than traditional control interfaces using physical controls such as buttons, switches, knobs, and sliders. What this means is, the haptics rich environment of physical controls that we blind people prefer is continuing to disappear, and will continue disappearing. As the demand for such control interfaces reduces, costs for said interfaces will rise. This is how the market works. A sighted friend who always use to carry a bluetooth keyboard with him now does all his typing on his iPhone's onscreen keyboard when he is out. As he told me, once he got use to it, he no longer needs to carry, or worry about, the Bluetooth keyboard. We all know exceptions, but in general, the overwhelming majority of people studied, from many different groups and countries, prefer the direct influence they receive when utilising touch-screen interfaces. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 11:16, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure I'm following the thread below, but there's nothing wrong in requesting a feature. We can't always just accept what's out there or things will never change and get better. I can also see a sighted user using a bluetooth keyboard and not wanting to remove their hands from the keyboard to interact with the touch screen, so if I understand the point in this thread, it doesn't seem so unreasonable to me. On 04/03/2013 05:09 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available. As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you want. :-) David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net mailto:kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol. - Original Message - *From:* David Chittenden mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM *Subject:* Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct keyboard interface. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the general public. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are the ones I've been saving. iOS Keyboard shortcut commands VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option General navigation Keys Action VO plus left or right Select previous or next item VO plus up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option VO plus Space Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) VO plus H Go to home screen VO plus H 2 times Open/close multitask pane Escape Go back, cancel, close pop-up Cmd plus Tab Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous VO plus A Read all from first object in selected area VO plus B Read all from selected item VO plus M Move to status bar VO plus I Open Item Chooser for current area VO plus F Search and go
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Hi Kayla, Well, if you use VoiceOver, you will be able to click on icons as others have indicated, you just have to make certain that VoiceOver is on, and you need to turn on QuickNav with left and right arrows held down at the same time. Les On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:32 PM, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct keyboard interface. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the general public. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are the ones I've been saving. iOS Keyboard shortcut commands VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option General navigation Keys Action VO plus left or right Select previous or next item VO plus up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option VO plus Space Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) VO plus H Go to home screen VO plus H 2 times Open/close multitask pane Escape Go back, cancel, close pop-up Cmd plus Tab Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous VO plus A Read all from first object in selected area VO plus B Read all from selected item VO plus M Move to status bar VO plus I Open Item Chooser for current area VO plus F Search and go to match with Enter VO plus G Next search match, hold Shift for previous Handling VoiceOver Keys Action Control Pause/resume speech VO plus S Toggle speech off/on VO plus Shift plus S Toggle Screen Curtain on/off VO plus Cmd plus up or down Adjust the selected speech rotor option VO plus Cmd plus left or right Change the speech rotor setting VO plus / (slash) Add label to selected item VO plus K Start VoiceOver training, Escape to exit Quick Nav Commands Turn on Quick Nav to use these commands by pressing left plus right keys at the same time Keys Action up plus down Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) left or right Selects the previous or next item up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option up plus left or right Change to next or previous rotor setting Option plus left or right Move to next or previous horizontal screen/page Option plus up or down Move/scroll up or down the screen/page Control plus up or down Select the first or last item in the area Control plus left or right Go to next or previous container/area Safari Web Shortcuts Hold Shift for previous Keys Action H Next heading 1 to 6 Next respective heading level 1–6 L Next link S Next text element W Next landmark R Next text field X Next list T Next table M Next element of same type I Next image B Next button C Next form element Other keyboard commands with Quicknav off Esther Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:03:26 -0700 (from: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg26148.html Apple Wireless Keyboard, also works on the AmazonBasics KT-1081 eject - toggle showing / hiding virtual keyboard (this key is at top right) tab - move to next text field (e.g. in mail) shift tab - move to previous text field command z - undo shift command z - redo command x - cut command c - copy command v - paste command a - select all control - stops and restarts VoiceOver speaking (e.g., in the middle of a two finger flick up or down to read all) command space - change to next language keyboard (when you have more than one selected) shift command space - change to previous language keyboard General movement and selection commands with command, option, and arrow key combinations. (For these sequences, holding down the shift key will select as well as move your cursor. On a PC keyboard, the control key can be substituted for some, but not all instances of the command key. On some keyboards, the Windows key may replace the function of the command key.) left / right arrows - move left or right by character shift left / right arrows - select left or right by character option left / right arrows - move left or right by word shift option left / right arrows - select left or right by word command left / right arrows - move to beginning or end of line shift command
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Well, I can't disagree with anything you're saying, and I think you're right when it comes to information consumption and inputs of small amounts of information, but I don't see information and content generation going the way of the tuch screen any time soon. I can't point to specific studies, but I assume something must be driving companies like Microsoft, Canonical, Motorola and Asus to develop converged devices which give you the tablet based touch screen interface when you're mobile and a monitor/keyboard centric interface when you're at your desk. Maybe this is just a set of transitional products, but I just don't ever see programmers, writers, video editors, publishers and so on doing their work exclusively on a touch screen. Like I said, I have read the thread below, and I'm not sure I follow all of it, but I don't see where the person who bought the bluetooth keyboard is just using it when they're mobile. On 04/03/2013 05:48 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Ok, step outside what you know. The following has been studied numerous times in many fields across the consumer information sectors. It includes everything from information kiosks and cash machines in very diverse venues to mobile information communication technology of various types and brands. When the interface is end-user (consumer) focused, people overwhelmingly prefer touch-screen direct access and manipulation of visual icons. They overwhelmingly report such interfaces are much more natural. Also, errors decrease significantly and productivity increases significantly when touch-screen interfaces are used. These are facts, not speculation or wishful thinking. New academic studies come out very regularly from different sectors which show very similar results. Now that acceptance and adoption of touch-screen technology has achieved critical mass, touch-screen control interfaces are becoming (and in many sectors have become) less expensive than traditional control interfaces using physical controls such as buttons, switches, knobs, and sliders. What this means is, the haptics rich environment of physical controls that we blind people prefer is continuing to disappear, and will continue disappearing. As the demand for such control interfaces reduces, costs for said interfaces will rise. This is how the market works. A sighted friend who always use to carry a bluetooth keyboard with him now does all his typing on his iPhone's onscreen keyboard when he is out. As he told me, once he got use to it, he no longer needs to carry, or worry about, the Bluetooth keyboard. We all know exceptions, but in general, the overwhelming majority of people studied, from many different groups and countries, prefer the direct influence they receive when utilising touch-screen interfaces. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 11:16, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure I'm following the thread below, but there's nothing wrong in requesting a feature. We can't always just accept what's out there or things will never change and get better. I can also see a sighted user using a bluetooth keyboard and not wanting to remove their hands from the keyboard to interact with the touch screen, so if I understand the point in this thread, it doesn't seem so unreasonable to me. On 04/03/2013 05:09 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available. As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you want. :-) David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net mailto:kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol. - Original Message - *From:* David Chittenden mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM *Subject:* Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct keyboard interface. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard
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Everyone has their preference. Not ever having bought a bt keyboard before, I was unawhare that this feature was not available at all and that I would still have to use my iPhone home screen to activate icons. Keep in mind, that some of us are just not as informed. Now that I know, I will *use what's available.** - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:09 PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available. As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you want. :-) David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct keyboard interface. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the general public. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are the ones I've been saving. iOS Keyboard shortcut commands VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option General navigation Keys Action VO plus left or right Select previous or next item VO plus up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option VO plus Space Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) VO plus H Go to home screen VO plus H 2 times Open/close multitask pane Escape Go back, cancel, close pop-up Cmd plus Tab Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous VO plus A Read all from first object in selected area VO plus B Read all from selected item VO plus M Move to status bar VO plus I Open Item Chooser for current area VO plus F Search and go to match with Enter VO plus G Next search match, hold Shift for previous Handling VoiceOver Keys Action Control Pause/resume speech VO plus S Toggle speech off/on VO plus Shift plus S Toggle Screen Curtain on/off VO plus Cmd plus up or down Adjust the selected speech rotor option VO plus Cmd plus left or right Change the speech rotor setting VO plus / (slash) Add label to selected item VO plus K Start VoiceOver training, Escape to exit Quick Nav Commands Turn on Quick Nav to use these commands by pressing left plus right keys at the same time Keys Action up plus down Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) left or right Selects the previous or next item up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option up plus left or right Change to next or previous rotor setting Option plus left or right Move to next or previous horizontal screen/page Option plus up or down Move/scroll up or down the screen/page Control plus up or down Select the first or last item in the area Control plus left or right Go to next or previous container/area Safari Web Shortcuts Hold Shift for previous Keys Action H Next heading 1 to 6 Next respective heading level 1–6 L Next link S Next text element W Next landmark R Next text field X Next list T Next table M Next element of same type I Next image B Next button C Next form element Other keyboard commands with Quicknav off Esther Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:03:26 -0700 (from: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg26148.html Apple Wireless Keyboard, also works on the AmazonBasics KT-1081 eject - toggle showing / hiding virtual
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You can access home screen icons with a bluetooth keyboard using VoiceOver commands as has been documented earlier in this thread. There doesn't appear to be a way to do it without VoiceOver, but since VoiceOver is available to everyone, here's an article directed at sighted users who want to use a bluetooth keyboard and who don't want to reach over and touch their iPhone to perform the home screen navigation: http://decadentwaste.net/decadentwaste/2011/03/navigate-using-a-bluetooth-keyboard-on-your-ios-device Feature requests are like questions, the only bad feature request is the one that's never asked. Chances are, if you would like this feature, so would others. Get it out there and let the market place sort out the rest. On 04/03/2013 06:10 PM, KK2006 wrote: Everyone has their preference. Not ever having bought a bt keyboard before, I was unawhare that this feature was not available at all and that I would still have to use my iPhone home screen to activate icons. Keep in mind, that some of us are just not as informed. Now that I know, I will *use what's available.** - Original Message - *From:* David Chittenden mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:09 PM *Subject:* Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available. As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you want. :-) David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net mailto:kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol. - Original Message - *From:* David Chittenden mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM *Subject:* Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct keyboard interface. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the general public. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are the ones I've been saving. iOS Keyboard shortcut commands VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option General navigation Keys Action VO plus left or right Select previous or next item VO plus up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option VO plus Space Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) VO plus H Go to home screen VO plus H 2 times Open/close multitask pane Escape Go back, cancel, close pop-up Cmd plus Tab Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous VO plus A Read all from first object in selected area VO plus B Read all from selected item VO plus M Move to status bar VO plus I Open Item Chooser for current area VO plus F Search and go to match with Enter VO plus G Next search match, hold Shift for previous Handling VoiceOver Keys Action Control Pause/resume speech VO plus S Toggle speech off/on VO plus Shift plus S Toggle Screen Curtain on/off VO plus Cmd plus up or down Adjust the selected speech rotor option VO plus Cmd plus left or right Change the speech rotor setting VO plus / (slash) Add label to selected item VO plus K Start VoiceOver training, Escape to exit Quick Nav Commands Turn on Quick Nav to use these commands by pressing left plus right keys at the same time Keys Action up plus down Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) left or right Selects the previous or next item up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option up
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My comments are mainly targeted, in this case, at the thought that sighted users of iPhone would rather use keyboard navigation. Save for a very few outlyers, this assertion is constantly proven incorrect. As for programming and AV, object-oriented programming is primarily mouse oriented. Same with high-end AV editing and production. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 12:10, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I can't disagree with anything you're saying, and I think you're right when it comes to information consumption and inputs of small amounts of information, but I don't see information and content generation going the way of the tuch screen any time soon. I can't point to specific studies, but I assume something must be driving companies like Microsoft, Canonical, Motorola and Asus to develop converged devices which give you the tablet based touch screen interface when you're mobile and a monitor/keyboard centric interface when you're at your desk. Maybe this is just a set of transitional products, but I just don't ever see programmers, writers, video editors, publishers and so on doing their work exclusively on a touch screen. Like I said, I have read the thread below, and I'm not sure I follow all of it, but I don't see where the person who bought the bluetooth keyboard is just using it when they're mobile. On 04/03/2013 05:48 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Ok, step outside what you know. The following has been studied numerous times in many fields across the consumer information sectors. It includes everything from information kiosks and cash machines in very diverse venues to mobile information communication technology of various types and brands. When the interface is end-user (consumer) focused, people overwhelmingly prefer touch-screen direct access and manipulation of visual icons. They overwhelmingly report such interfaces are much more natural. Also, errors decrease significantly and productivity increases significantly when touch-screen interfaces are used. These are facts, not speculation or wishful thinking. New academic studies come out very regularly from different sectors which show very similar results. Now that acceptance and adoption of touch-screen technology has achieved critical mass, touch-screen control interfaces are becoming (and in many sectors have become) less expensive than traditional control interfaces using physical controls such as buttons, switches, knobs, and sliders. What this means is, the haptics rich environment of physical controls that we blind people prefer is continuing to disappear, and will continue disappearing. As the demand for such control interfaces reduces, costs for said interfaces will rise. This is how the market works. A sighted friend who always use to carry a bluetooth keyboard with him now does all his typing on his iPhone's onscreen keyboard when he is out. As he told me, once he got use to it, he no longer needs to carry, or worry about, the Bluetooth keyboard. We all know exceptions, but in general, the overwhelming majority of people studied, from many different groups and countries, prefer the direct influence they receive when utilising touch-screen interfaces. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 11:16, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure I'm following the thread below, but there's nothing wrong in requesting a feature. We can't always just accept what's out there or things will never change and get better. I can also see a sighted user using a bluetooth keyboard and not wanting to remove their hands from the keyboard to interact with the touch screen, so if I understand the point in this thread, it doesn't seem so unreasonable to me. On 04/03/2013 05:09 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available. As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you want. :-) David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net mailto:kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol. - Original Message - *From:* David Chittenden mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM *Subject:* Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering
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When VO is active, keyboard commands are available. They use the control option (VO) key combination to work. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 12:10, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Everyone has their preference. Not ever having bought a bt keyboard before, I was unawhare that this feature was not available at all and that I would still have to use my iPhone home screen to activate icons. Keep in mind, that some of us are just not as informed. Now that I know, I will *use what's available.** - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:09 PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth TabletKeyboard Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available. As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you want. :-) David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct keyboard interface. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.comwrote: I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the general public. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are the ones I've been saving. iOS Keyboard shortcut commands VoiceOver VO keys = Control plusOption General navigation Keys Action VO plus left or right Select previous or next item VO plus up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option VO plus Space Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) VO plus H Go to home screen VO plus H 2 times Open/close multitask pane Escape Go back, cancel, close pop-up Cmd plus Tab Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous VO plus A Read all from first object in selected area VO plus B Read all from selecteditem VO plus M Move to status bar VO plus I Open Item Chooser for current area VO plus F Search and go to match with Enter VO plus G Next search match, hold Shift for previous Handling VoiceOver Keys Action Control Pause/resume speech VO plus S Toggle speech off/on VO plus Shift plus S Toggle Screen Curtain on/off VO plus Cmd plus up or down Adjust the selected speech rotor option VO plus Cmd plus left or right Change the speech rotor setting VO plus / (slash) Add label to selected item VO plus K Start VoiceOver training, Escape to exit Quick Nav Commands Turn on Quick Nav to use these commands by pressing left plus right keys at the same time Keys Action up plus down Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) left or right Selects the previous or next item up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option up plus left or right Change to next or previous rotor setting Option plus left or right Move to next or previous horizontal screen/page Option plus up or down Move/scroll up or down the screen/page Control plus up or down Select the first or last item in the area Control plus left or right Go to next or previous container/area Safari Web Shortcuts Hold Shift for previous Keys Action H Next heading 1 to 6 Next respective heading level 1–6 L Next link S Next text element W Next landmark R Next text field X Next list T Next table M Next element of same type I Next image B Next button C Next form element Other keyboard commands with Quicknav off Esther Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:03:26 -0700 (from: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg26148.html Apple Wireless Keyboard, also works on the AmazonBasics KT-1081 eject - toggle showing / hiding virtual keyboard (this key is at top right) tab - move to next text field (e.g. inmail) shift tab - move to previous text field command z - undo shift command z - redo command x - cut command c - copy command v - paste command
Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard
Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 11:16, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure I'm following the thread below, but there's nothing wrong in requesting a feature. We can't always just accept what's out there or things will never change and get better. I can also see a sighted user using a bluetooth keyboard and not wanting to remove their hands from the keyboard to interact with the touch screen, so if I understand the point in this thread, it doesn't seem so unreasonable to me. On 04/03/2013 05:09 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available. As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you want. :-) David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net mailto:kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol. - Original Message - *From:* David Chittenden mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM *Subject:* Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct keyboard interface. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the general public. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are the ones I've been saving. iOS Keyboard shortcut commands VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option General navigation Keys Action VO plus left or right Select previous or next item VO plus up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option VO plus Space Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) VO plus H Go to home screen VO plus H 2 times Open/close multitask pane Escape Go back, cancel, close pop-up Cmd plus Tab Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous VO plus A Read all from first object in selected area VO plus B Read all from selected item VO plus M Move to status bar VO plus I Open Item Chooser for current area VO plus F Search and go to match with Enter VO plus G Next search match, hold Shift for previous Handling VoiceOver Keys Action Control Pause/resume speech VO plus S Toggle speech off/on VO plus Shift plus S Toggle Screen Curtain on/off VO plus Cmd plus up or down Adjust the selected speech rotor option VO plus Cmd plus left or right Change the speech rotor setting VO plus / (slash) Add label to selected item VO plus K Start VoiceOver training, Escape to exit Quick Nav Commands Turn on Quick Nav to use these commands by pressing left plus right keys at the same time Keys Action up plus down Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) left or right Selects the previous or next item up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option up plus left or right Change to next or previous rotor setting Option plus left or right Move to next or previous horizontal screen/page Option plus up or down Move/scroll up or down the screen/page Control plus up or down Select the first or last item in the area Control plus left or right Go to next or previous container/area Safari Web Shortcuts Hold Shift for previous Keys Action H Next heading 1 to 6 Next respective heading level 1–6 L Next link S Next text element W Next landmark R Next text field X Next list T Next table M Next element of same type I Next image B Next button C Next form element Other keyboard commands with Quicknav off Esther Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:03:26 -0700 (from: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg26148.html Apple Wireless Keyboard, also works on the AmazonBasics KT-1081 eject - toggle showing / hiding virtual keyboard
Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard
Also, what is this control option? I'm not understanding here, do you mean a function key of sorts? I'm assuming that this is what you mean but if not, maybe that's why I'm not getting my bt keyboard to work... - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is active, keyboard commands are available. They use the control option (VO) key combination to work. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 12:10, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Everyone has their preference. Not ever having bought a bt keyboard before, I was unawhare that this feature was not available at all and that I would still have to use my iPhone home screen to activate icons. Keep in mind, that some of us are just not as informed. Now that I know, I will *use what's available.** - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:09 PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available. As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you want. :-) David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct keyboard interface. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the general public. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are the ones I've been saving. iOS Keyboard shortcut commands VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option General navigation Keys Action VO plus left or right Select previous or next item VO plus up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option VO plus Space Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) VO plus H Go to home screen VO plus H 2 times Open/close multitask pane Escape Go back, cancel, close pop-up Cmd plus Tab Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous VO plus A Read all from first object in selected area VO plus B Read all from selected item VO plus M Move to status bar VO plus I Open Item Chooser for current area VO plus F Search and go to match with Enter VO plus G Next search match, hold Shift for previous Handling VoiceOver Keys Action Control Pause/resume speech VO plus S Toggle speech off/on VO plus Shift plus S Toggle Screen Curtain on/off VO plus Cmd plus up or down Adjust the selected speech rotor option VO plus Cmd plus left or right Change the speech rotor setting VO plus / (slash) Add label to selected item VO plus K Start VoiceOver training, Escape to exit Quick Nav Commands Turn on Quick Nav to use these commands by pressing left plus right keys at the same time Keys Action up plus down Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) left or right Selects the previous or next item up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option up plus left or right Change to next or previous rotor setting Option plus left or right Move to next or previous horizontal screen/page Option plus up or down Move/scroll
