Re: MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

2021-08-24 Thread Greg Wocher 
Hello all,
I really like BSI for input on my iPhone. I do also like the features that 
MBraille has but the $40 price for full access to the app is a bit pricy. 
Greg Wocher

> On Aug 24, 2021, at 12:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Whether BSI, M-Braille or Flicktype, any of these require you to understand 
> how they work and after that constant practice and not just for half an hour, 
> but for hours and hours. It's just like correct touch typing on a full-size 
> keyboard, some people can do 30 or 40 words a minute and others can do 100 or 
> more or, according to Wikipedia, 216 words a minute back in 1946 on an  IBM 
> electric typewriter by Stella Pajunas-Garnand in Chicago.
> Here is an interesting blog article from the "Das Keyboard" website:
>  
> The Fastest Typist in the World Wins the Ultimate Typing Championship
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: August 24, 2021 2:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>  
> Thanks a lot.  I will give it a try.  I really like the concept of BSI, I 
> just hope I will get the hang of this app.  When I was playing around with 
> BSI just trying out the alphabet in braille, one time I got it to work, and I 
> was surprised at how fast I could type some of the letters.
>  
> On 8/23/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> > there is not really callibration but you have a few layouts. It is
> > much like BSI but I find it a bit easier.
> > I think you can get the app for free and get used to it before having
> > to consider purchasing it.
> > There is a lot of settings to customize it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Richard
> > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> > -- Jane Wagner
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > website:  www.turner42.com
> > 
> > 
> > On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> > 
> > That sounds very interesting.  I tried the BSI thing, but just
> > couldn't get the hang of it.  That sounds easier then flicktype.  I
> > tried that and it was confusing.  If I do get mbraille, I'll probably
> > have questions.  Having a braille keyboard come up when I need to send
> > a text message would be very neat if I can figure out how to use it.
> > Also, doing web searches would also be very nice.  Is there any
> > calibrating of fingers like in BSI?  Thanks.
> > 
> > On 8/23/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> > MBraille is an app for writing braille on the screen like the Apple
> > Braille Input, though it has far more features.  If you buy the full
> > version, it can be set as another keyboard; much like FlickType could
> > be an extra keyboard.
> > It has lots of what he calls "dot commands," so that by brailling the
> > braille period dots 2,5,6 followed by sms then a contact or a phone
> > number, you can send whatever you had written as a text message.
> > Or, dot mail  followed by a subject in quotes or just a contact or an
> > email address you can send a mail message, all from within the app.
> > Or of course, once the keyboard is up, you can switch to it and just
> > write in the body of a text or email.
> > Those are what I use the most, but you can also do web searches from
> > the app, add calendar events, and save notes to Dropbox and on, and on.
> > 
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.
> > apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fmbraille%2Fid639199558data=04%7C01%7C%7C26
> > bc78bd273a4834b61b08d966b8ab39%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%
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> > 7WJ6Mk%2FS0OcNfpvjEY2%2BxrG1ZvJZP%2FnbPrOw%3Dreserved=0
> > 
> > I'll start a new thread if this continues to not be about flicktype.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Richard
> > Software means never having to say you're finished
> > 
> > Web site:
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
> > rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C26bc78bd273a4834b61b08d966b8ab39%7
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> > wPhizs%3Dreserved=0
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> > Joshua Hendrickson
> > Sent: Monday, Au

RE: MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

2021-08-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Whether BSI, M-Braille or Flicktype, any of these require you to understand how 
they work and after that constant practice and not just for half an hour, but 
for hours and hours. It's just like correct touch typing on a full-size 
keyboard, some people can do 30 or 40 words a minute and others can do 100 or 
more or, according to Wikipedia, 216 words a minute back in 1946 on an  IBM 
electric typewriter by Stella Pajunas-Garnand in Chicago.

Here is an interesting blog article from the "Das Keyboard" website:



The Fastest Typist in the World Wins the Ultimate Typing 
Championship<https://www.daskeyboard.com/blog/the-fastest-typist-in-the-world-wins-the-ultimate-typing-championship/>



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: August 24, 2021 2:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType



Thanks a lot.  I will give it a try.  I really like the concept of BSI, I just 
hope I will get the hang of this app.  When I was playing around with BSI just 
trying out the alphabet in braille, one time I got it to work, and I was 
surprised at how fast I could type some of the letters.



On 8/23/21, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

> there is not really callibration but you have a few layouts. It is

> much like BSI but I find it a bit easier.

> I think you can get the app for free and get used to it before having

> to consider purchasing it.

> There is a lot of settings to customize it.

>

>

>

> Richard

> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."

> -- Jane Wagner

>

>

>

>

>

> website:  www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

>

>

> On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
> mailto:louv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> That sounds very interesting.  I tried the BSI thing, but just

> couldn't get the hang of it.  That sounds easier then flicktype.  I

> tried that and it was confusing.  If I do get mbraille, I'll probably

> have questions.  Having a braille keyboard come up when I need to send

> a text message would be very neat if I can figure out how to use it.

> Also, doing web searches would also be very nice.  Is there any

> calibrating of fingers like in BSI?  Thanks.

>

> On 8/23/21, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

> MBraille is an app for writing braille on the screen like the Apple

> Braille Input, though it has far more features.  If you buy the full

> version, it can be set as another keyboard; much like FlickType could

> be an extra keyboard.

> It has lots of what he calls "dot commands," so that by brailling the

> braille period dots 2,5,6 followed by sms then a contact or a phone

> number, you can send whatever you had written as a text message.

> Or, dot mail  followed by a subject in quotes or just a contact or an

> email address you can send a mail message, all from within the app.

> Or of course, once the keyboard is up, you can switch to it and just

> write in the body of a text or email.

> Those are what I use the most, but you can also do web searches from

> the app, add calendar events, and save notes to Dropbox and on, and on.

>

> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.

> apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fmbraille%2Fid639199558data=04%7C01%7C%7C26

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> 7WJ6Mk%2FS0OcNfpvjEY2%2BxrG1ZvJZP%2FnbPrOw%3Dreserved=0

>

> I'll start a new thread if this continues to not be about flicktype.

>

>

>

> Richard

> Software means never having to say you're finished

>

> Web site:

> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu

> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C26bc78bd273a4834b61b08d966b8ab39%7

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>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> Joshua Hendrickson

> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 1:38 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

> Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

>

> Richard, what is

Re: MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

2021-08-24 Thread Joshua Hendrickson 
Thanks a lot.  I will give it a try.  I really like the concept of
BSI, I just hope I will get the hang of this app.  When I was playing
around with BSI just trying out the alphabet in braille, one time I
got it to work, and I was surprised at how fast I could type some of
the letters.

On 8/23/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> there is not really callibration but you have a few layouts. It is much like
> BSI but I find it a bit easier.
> I think you can get the app for free and get used to it before having to
> consider purchasing it.
> There is a lot of settings to customize it.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>
>
>
> website:  www.turner42.com
>
>
> On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>
> That sounds very interesting.  I tried the BSI thing, but just
> couldn't get the hang of it.  That sounds easier then flicktype.  I
> tried that and it was confusing.  If I do get mbraille, I'll probably
> have questions.  Having a braille keyboard come up when I need to send
> a text message would be very neat if I can figure out how to use it.
> Also, doing web searches would also be very nice.  Is there any
> calibrating of fingers like in BSI?  Thanks.
>
> On 8/23/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> MBraille is an app for writing braille on the screen like the Apple Braille
> Input, though it has far more features.  If you buy the full version, it
> can
> be set as another keyboard; much like FlickType could be an extra keyboard.
> It has lots of what he calls "dot commands," so that by brailling the
> braille period dots 2,5,6 followed by sms then a contact or a phone number,
> you can send whatever you had written as a text message.
> Or, dot mail  followed by a subject in quotes or just a contact or an email
> address you can send a mail message, all from within the app.
> Or of course, once the keyboard is up, you can switch to it and just write
> in the body of a text or email.
> Those are what I use the most, but you can also do web searches from the
> app, add calendar events, and save notes to Dropbox and on, and on.
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fmbraille%2Fid639199558data=04%7C01%7C%7C26bc78bd273a4834b61b08d966b8ab39%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637653765605406064%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=7rGBjjD7WJ6Mk%2FS0OcNfpvjEY2%2BxrG1ZvJZP%2FnbPrOw%3Dreserved=0
>
> I'll start a new thread if this continues to not be about flicktype.
>
>
>
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
> Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C26bc78bd273a4834b61b08d966b8ab39%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637653765605416019%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=zFUuWxKTdNGPv1yNUvScwDnnUPwjE%2F6ovxeZ7wPhizs%3Dreserved=0
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 1:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>
> Richard, what is m-braille?
>
> On 8/23/21, Dennis Long  wrote:
> Richard I completely agree with you.  It took me years to see that.  I
> used Android for years.  Will Google ever catch up?  Doubtful.  Could
> they yes if Apple took  years off and Google actually did something.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>
>
>
> Let us not lose sight of the fact they are actually putting more and
> more into accessibility.  It may not be your accessibility, but over
> all, they are way out in front in this area.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
>
> Web site:
>  urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C49e4ac223b9e44c6480908d96675ea18%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637653478886334031%7CUnkn
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> Nyqe8%3Dreserved=0>
>

Re: MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

2021-08-23 Thread Richard Turner 
there is not really callibration but you have a few layouts. It is much like 
BSI but I find it a bit easier.
I think you can get the app for free and get used to it before having to 
consider purchasing it.
There is a lot of settings to customize it.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com


On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

That sounds very interesting.  I tried the BSI thing, but just
couldn't get the hang of it.  That sounds easier then flicktype.  I
tried that and it was confusing.  If I do get mbraille, I'll probably
have questions.  Having a braille keyboard come up when I need to send
a text message would be very neat if I can figure out how to use it.
Also, doing web searches would also be very nice.  Is there any
calibrating of fingers like in BSI?  Thanks.

On 8/23/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
MBraille is an app for writing braille on the screen like the Apple Braille
Input, though it has far more features.  If you buy the full version, it can
be set as another keyboard; much like FlickType could be an extra keyboard.
It has lots of what he calls "dot commands," so that by brailling the
braille period dots 2,5,6 followed by sms then a contact or a phone number,
you can send whatever you had written as a text message.
Or, dot mail  followed by a subject in quotes or just a contact or an email
address you can send a mail message, all from within the app.
Or of course, once the keyboard is up, you can switch to it and just write
in the body of a text or email.
Those are what I use the most, but you can also do web searches from the
app, add calendar events, and save notes to Dropbox and on, and on.

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fmbraille%2Fid639199558data=04%7C01%7C%7C26bc78bd273a4834b61b08d966b8ab39%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637653765605406064%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=7rGBjjD7WJ6Mk%2FS0OcNfpvjEY2%2BxrG1ZvJZP%2FnbPrOw%3Dreserved=0

I'll start a new thread if this continues to not be about flicktype.



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: 
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

Richard, what is m-braille?

On 8/23/21, Dennis Long  wrote:
Richard I completely agree with you.  It took me years to see that.  I
used Android for years.  Will Google ever catch up?  Doubtful.  Could
they yes if Apple took  years off and Google actually did something.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType



Let us not lose sight of the fact they are actually putting more and
more into accessibility.  It may not be your accessibility, but over
all, they are way out in front in this area.











Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On
Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent:

Re: MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

2021-08-23 Thread Joshua Hendrickson 
That sounds very interesting.  I tried the BSI thing, but just
couldn't get the hang of it.  That sounds easier then flicktype.  I
tried that and it was confusing.  If I do get mbraille, I'll probably
have questions.  Having a braille keyboard come up when I need to send
a text message would be very neat if I can figure out how to use it.
Also, doing web searches would also be very nice.  Is there any
calibrating of fingers like in BSI?  Thanks.

On 8/23/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> MBraille is an app for writing braille on the screen like the Apple Braille
> Input, though it has far more features.  If you buy the full version, it can
> be set as another keyboard; much like FlickType could be an extra keyboard.
> It has lots of what he calls "dot commands," so that by brailling the
> braille period dots 2,5,6 followed by sms then a contact or a phone number,
> you can send whatever you had written as a text message.
> Or, dot mail  followed by a subject in quotes or just a contact or an email
> address you can send a mail message, all from within the app.
> Or of course, once the keyboard is up, you can switch to it and just write
> in the body of a text or email.
> Those are what I use the most, but you can also do web searches from the
> app, add calendar events, and save notes to Dropbox and on, and on.
>
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mbraille/id639199558
>
> I'll start a new thread if this continues to not be about flicktype.
>
>
>
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 1:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>
> Richard, what is m-braille?
>
> On 8/23/21, Dennis Long  wrote:
>> Richard I completely agree with you.  It took me years to see that.  I
>> used Android for years.  Will Google ever catch up?  Doubtful.  Could
>> they yes if Apple took  years off and Google actually did something.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 11:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>>
>>
>>
>> Let us not lose sight of the fact they are actually putting more and
>> more into accessibility.  It may not be your accessibility, but over
>> all, they are way out in front in this area.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>
>>
>>
>> Web site:
>> > urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C49e4ac223b9e44c6480908d96675ea18%
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On
>> Behalf Of Devin Prater
>> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 8:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>>
>>
>>
>> It's definitely not the end of the world, but I hope we won't continue
>> having this type of problem, but something tells me we will as Apple's
>> success grows and their App Store team has more and more they have to
>> do and look out for.
>>
>>
>> Devin Prater
>>
>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com 
>>
>> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:06 AM Richard Turner
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> I  Very much doubt the millions of customers it would take to switch
>> to the "somewhat dark side, grin" will do so, which is what it would
>> take to impact Apple's wallet.  A few people switching to Android
>> certainly won't.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also doubt Flicktype will see the light of day again, which is too
>> bad, but not the end of the world.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>
>>
>>
>> Web site:
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MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

2021-08-23 Thread Richard Turner 
MBraille is an app for writing braille on the screen like the Apple Braille 
Input, though it has far more features.  If you buy the full version, it can be 
set as another keyboard; much like FlickType could be an extra keyboard.
It has lots of what he calls "dot commands," so that by brailling the braille 
period dots 2,5,6 followed by sms then a contact or a phone number, you can 
send whatever you had written as a text message.
Or, dot mail  followed by a subject in quotes or just a contact or an email 
address you can send a mail message, all from within the app.
Or of course, once the keyboard is up, you can switch to it and just write in 
the body of a text or email.
Those are what I use the most, but you can also do web searches from the app, 
add calendar events, and save notes to Dropbox and on, and on.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mbraille/id639199558

I'll start a new thread if this continues to not be about flicktype.



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

Richard, what is m-braille?

On 8/23/21, Dennis Long  wrote:
> Richard I completely agree with you.  It took me years to see that.  I 
> used Android for years.  Will Google ever catch up?  Doubtful.  Could 
> they yes if Apple took  years off and Google actually did something.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>
>
>
> Let us not lose sight of the fact they are actually putting more and 
> more into accessibility.  It may not be your accessibility, but over 
> all, they are way out in front in this area.
>
>
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> Richard
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Devin Prater
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 8:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>
>
>
> It's definitely not the end of the world, but I hope we won't continue 
> having this type of problem, but something tells me we will as Apple's 
> success grows and their App Store team has more and more they have to 
> do and look out for.
>
>
> Devin Prater
>
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com 
>
> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:06 AM Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
>
> I  Very much doubt the millions of customers it would take to switch 
> to the "somewhat dark side, grin" will do so, which is what it would 
> take to impact Apple's wallet.  A few people switching to Android certainly 
> won't.
>
>
>
> I also doubt Flicktype will see the light of day again, which is too 
> bad, but not the end of the world.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
>
> Web site:
>  urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C49e4ac223b9e44c6480908d96675ea18%
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Devin Prater
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 7:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: