Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-18 Thread Scott Rumery
I find this crap absolutely unacceptable and I would suggest that we all should 
send them a complaint message. If we just say something like, Oh well, I guess 
that I just won't use their app or service anymore then they will get away with 
treating us like this and there is no way that any company should treat any 
segment of the public like this. I think that this Warren should be fired but 
of coarse he did not give his last name. Just like a coward.

Scott Rumery
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On Jun 14, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote:

 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
 hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
 *** 
 
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 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
 blindt...@emissives.com
 These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
 mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
 never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
 us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
 or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
 blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
 hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
 when we get to it.
 
 
 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
Don't panic; it was a hoax.

Teresa 

Winging its way from my iPod

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I find this crap absolutely unacceptable and I would suggest that we all 
 should send them a complaint message. If we just say something like, Oh well, 
 I guess that I just won’t use their app or service anymore then they will get 
 away with treating us like this and there is no way that any company should 
 treat any segment of the public like this. I think that this Warren should be 
 fired but of coarse he did not give his last name. Just like a coward.
 
 Scott Rumery
 Senior Partner
 Fedora Outlier LLC
 “Top Down, Better Than Excellent Consulting, Teaching and Support”
 Contact Us…
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 On Jun 14, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
 hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
 *** 
 
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 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
 blindt...@emissives.com
 These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
 mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
 never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
 us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
 or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
 blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
 hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
 when we get to it.
 
 
 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-18 Thread Alan Paganelli
I doubt that it was real Scot.  Anybody who would willingly write anything like 
that and actually have the guts to send it certainly would know that their days 
at that job would be numbered and it's not like jobs are a dime a dozen.  I 
think it more likely it's somebody's sick idea of a joke.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - 
everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on: 

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Rumery 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 6:03 PM
  Subject: Re: Pandora Response to accessibility


  I find this crap absolutely unacceptable and I would suggest that we all 
should send them a complaint message. If we just say something like, Oh well, I 
guess that I just won't use their app or service anymore then they will get 
away with treating us like this and there is no way that any company should 
treat any segment of the public like this. I think that this Warren should be 
fired but of coarse he did not give his last name. Just like a coward.


  Scott Rumery

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  Fedora Outlier LLC
  Top Down, Better Than Excellent Consulting, Teaching and Support
  Contact Us.
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  On Jun 14, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net 
wrote:


I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
more accessible. Atrocious!
I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!

*** 

From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
[mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora

Begin forwarded message:
From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
To: blindt...@emissives.com
Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
blindt...@emissives.com
These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
mines facebook.



This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.



Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
blind, hum?



Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
when we get to it.



Warren | Pandora

Listener Advocate

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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-18 Thread David Chittenden
The highest probability is that the email was spoofed to look like it came from 
a Pandora support email address.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 15 Jun 2014, at 13:03, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I find this crap absolutely unacceptable and I would suggest that we all 
 should send them a complaint message. If we just say something like, Oh well, 
 I guess that I just won’t use their app or service anymore then they will get 
 away with treating us like this and there is no way that any company should 
 treat any segment of the public like this. I think that this Warren should be 
 fired but of coarse he did not give his last name. Just like a coward.
 
 Scott Rumery
 Senior Partner
 Fedora Outlier LLC
 “Top Down, Better Than Excellent Consulting, Teaching and Support”
 Contact Us…
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 Ph: 706-237-8101
 Toll Free: 888.958.6979 Ext. 6801
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 On Jun 14, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
 hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
 *** 
 
 From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
 blindt...@emissives.com
 These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
 mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
 never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
 us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
 or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
 blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
 hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
 when we get to it.
 
 
 
 Warren | Pandora
 
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RE: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-18 Thread Larry Lumpkin
I’ve been working with Pandora for years and they have been nothing but nice to 
me.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Teresa Cochran
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 11:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

 

Don't panic; it was a hoax.

 

Teresa 

Winging its way from my iPod


On Jun 14, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote:

I find this crap absolutely unacceptable and I would suggest that we all should 
send them a complaint message. If we just say something like, Oh well, I guess 
that I just won’t use their app or service anymore then they will get away with 
treating us like this and there is no way that any company should treat any 
segment of the public like this. I think that this Warren should be fired but 
of coarse he did not give his last name. Just like a coward.

 

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Senior Partner

Fedora Outlier LLC
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On Jun 14, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote:





I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
more accessible. Atrocious!
I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!

*** 

From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
[mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora

Begin forwarded message:
From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
To: blindt...@emissives.com
Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
blindt...@emissives.com
These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
mines facebook.



This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.



Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
blind, hum?



Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
when we get to it.



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Listener Advocate

PANDORAR internet radio

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In Reply To: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-15 Thread Mrs Villa
hi 
yes i've also seen this. its disgraceful.   something should be done about this 
person who wrote such rubbish. he deserves a good slapping.
regards a disgusted si 

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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-15 Thread Dennis Long

go for it.  if someone did create this that is completely wrong.
- Original Message - 
From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pandora Response to accessibility


This is not first-hand or even second-hand information, so I take it with a 
large ocean of salt. I don't know which is more incredible: the message 
itself or the willingness to take it as fact. I don't believe it's a good 
idea to base responses on hearsay alone. Do thy research. I kind of wish 
there was an equivalent of Snopes to dispel some of these rumors that pop up 
with regards to accessibility. Given my frame of mind at the moment, I 
almost want to start such a page. It's challenging enough to deal with 
accessibility issues without wading through nasty and silly nonsense. Folks, 
let's work on the stuff we do know about and have some direct communication 
between users and developers to fix it.


Teresa, (very peeved)

Teresa Cochran
batsfly...@me.com
Facebook

On Jun 14, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:

This Facebook message isn't true. The ONLY facebook page that I could 
find, Pandora user's can't post messages to the page. There however many 
Pandora pages created by individuals, who have people discussing the 
Pandora app.


Pandora Radio is actually Pandora Media. pandora is a large millions 
dollar company, not your run of the mill app developer.


So I doubt a large company like Pandora would have such a 
non-compassionate and rude employee.


Donna


On Jun 14, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote:

Hi,

I don't use pandora but after reading the  responce from pandora to the 
blind user  about their app, I think the responce from pandora to the 
blind users was very uncalled for and very rude  and I think I would 
never recommend pandora to anyone because of their nasty comments about 
blind people an just being very nasty in my opinion .
This sort of thing should be reported  and the person who develops the 
pandora app should have their app  removed from the apple store all 
together. Plus the pandora people need to apologise  for  saying nasty 
comments about blind people because this kind of behavior from pandora is 
unexceptable .


Lori
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RE: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-15 Thread Elizabeth Campbell
Hi folks,

I wish people would do a little research before posting what I think is
misinformation about an app. IN this case, I am referring to Pandora.
First, the subject lines seems to indicate that the app's most recent update
made Pandora inaccessible, when this is not true.
In fact, when I opened the app on my phone, I was able to see song lyrics,
the album name and so forth which is very helpful. The only change I noticed
is in the station name tab, one has to have hints enabled in VoiceOver to
hear the station name. It was a little off-putting at first, but I usually
have hints on so it's not a big deal.
As for the email response that was posted from a discussion thread on
Applevis, I hope it is not from a Pandora representative, but if it is, the
company should take disciplinary action against the employee.
If you do a little research on Pandora's web site by first clicking on the
press room link,  you will find a list of top company executives. Why not
send a note just to make them aware of the response that appears to have
come from Pandora concerning an accessibility inquiry.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Blind Treasures 
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 6:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Pandora Response to accessibility

I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
more accessible. Atrocious!
I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!

*** 
 
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[mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora

Begin forwarded message:
From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
To: blindt...@emissives.com
Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
blindt...@emissives.com These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was
taken from a friend of mines facebook.



This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.



Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
blind, hum?



Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
when we get to it.



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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-15 Thread Feliciano G
I emailed pandora yesterday. Below is their response. BTW, the suggestion did 
help when reading the station list.



 On Jun 15, 2014, at 8:20 AM, 'Star | Pandora' pandora-supp...@pandora.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 Star | Pandora
 JUN 15, 2014  |  08:20AM PDT
 Hi Feliciano,
 
 Thanks for writing in about this. We are aware that our recent release has 
 caused issues for our blind and print disabled listeners, and we do apologize 
 for the surprise and inconvenience that undoubtedly caused to your listening 
 experience. 
 
 In the VoiceOver settings try turning on Speak Hints to see if that helps.
 
 Please let us know how it goes. 
 
 Best, 
 Star | Pandora 
 Listener Advocate 
 PANDORA® internet radio 
 Need help? http://help.pandora.com
 Was my reply helpful? 
  
 Latest version of Pandora is not accessible with voiceover with the iPhone.
 JUN 15, 2014  |  05:42PM PDT 
 Original message
 Hi, I have found that the latest version of Pandora is not accessible with 
 the iPhone while using voiceover. voiceover is is a built in screen reader on 
 apple devices for the blind users. I am just emailing you because I am not 
 sure if you guys are aware of this problem. Hope to hear from you soon, 
 thanks Feliciano
 [[0790d3155392b079c01419c38d5f81da5a3c837c-251323818]]

  Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Jun 15, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 go for it.  if someone did create this that is completely wrong.
 - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 9:12 PM
 Subject: Re: Pandora Response to accessibility
 
 
 This is not first-hand or even second-hand information, so I take it with a 
 large ocean of salt. I don't know which is more incredible: the message 
 itself or the willingness to take it as fact. I don't believe it's a good 
 idea to base responses on hearsay alone. Do thy research. I kind of wish 
 there was an equivalent of Snopes to dispel some of these rumors that pop up 
 with regards to accessibility. Given my frame of mind at the moment, I almost 
 want to start such a page. It's challenging enough to deal with accessibility 
 issues without wading through nasty and silly nonsense. Folks, let's work on 
 the stuff we do know about and have some direct communication between users 
 and developers to fix it.
 
 Teresa, (very peeved)
 
 Teresa Cochran
 batsfly...@me.com
 Facebook
 
 On Jun 14, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 This Facebook message isn't true. The ONLY facebook page that I could find, 
 Pandora user's can't post messages to the page. There however many Pandora 
 pages created by individuals, who have people discussing the Pandora app.
 
 Pandora Radio is actually Pandora Media. pandora is a large millions dollar 
 company, not your run of the mill app developer.
 
 So I doubt a large company like Pandora would have such a non-compassionate 
 and rude employee.
 
 Donna
 
 On Jun 14, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't use pandora but after reading the  responce from pandora to the 
 blind user  about their app, I think the responce from pandora to the blind 
 users was very uncalled for and very rude  and I think I would never 
 recommend pandora to anyone because of their nasty comments about blind 
 people an just being very nasty in my opinion .
 This sort of thing should be reported  and the person who develops the 
 pandora app should have their app  removed from the apple store all 
 together. Plus the pandora people need to apologise  for  saying nasty 
 comments about blind people because this kind of behavior from pandora is 
 unexceptable .
 
 Lori
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RE: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-15 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi all,

My suggestion is that we stop this ridiculous discussion. Its obvious to me
that someone started this idiocy just to disturb the smelly stuff. Let's not
continue to play the game

Ron  Danvers


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pandora Response to accessibility

I also do absolutely not believe that this message was sent from a
representative of Pandora; it was probably some idiot who pretended to be
such a person. It came via Facebook, correct? I would forward this to
Pandora since I am quite certain that they are being incorrectly accused of
this.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Feliciano G
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 4:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

I don't believe this is true. If you believe what this email says, maybe you
should email Pandora and see for yourself what type of response you will
receive.

  Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Blind Treasures 
blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora 
 should hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the 
 response that
a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make 
 their
app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
 ***
 
 From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List 
 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology 
 blindt...@emissives.com These guys have sunk to an all new low. This 
 was taken from a friend of mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen 
 to
know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest 
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and 
 will never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's 
 written us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't 
 tell you when or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we 
 really don't support blind people. Perhaps you should go find another 
 app that is more let
speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is 
 too hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is 
 to be
born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to 
 it when we get to it.
 
 
 
 Warren | Pandora
 
 Listener Advocate
 
 PANDORAR internet radio
 
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Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Blind Treasures
I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
more accessible. Atrocious!
I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!

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From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
[mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora

Begin forwarded message:
From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
To: blindt...@emissives.com
Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
blindt...@emissives.com
These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
mines facebook.



This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.



Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
blind, hum?



Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
when we get to it.



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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Feliciano G
I don't believe this is true. If you believe what this email says, maybe you 
should email Pandora and see for yourself what type of response you will 
receive.

  Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Blind Treasures  blindtreasu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
 hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
 *** 
 
 From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
 blindt...@emissives.com
 These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
 mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
 never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
 us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
 or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
 blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
 hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
 when we get to it.
 
 
 
 Warren | Pandora
 
 Listener Advocate
 
 PANDORAR internet radio
 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Josh Gregory
In all fairness, I doubt they would put out such a response, and if they did, I 
am sure there would have to be a reason for it. Not trying to start anything 
but just saying

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't believe this is true. If you believe what this email says, maybe you 
 should email Pandora and see for yourself what type of response you will 
 receive.
 
  Regards, Feliciano
 
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
 
 On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Blind Treasures  blindtreasu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
 hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
 *** 
 
 From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
 blindt...@emissives.com
 These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
 mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
 never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
 us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
 or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
 blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
 hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
 when we get to it.
 
 
 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread alia robinson
I don't either. 

Alia
On Jun 14, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I don't believe this is true. If you believe what this email says, maybe you 
 should email Pandora and see for yourself what type of response you will 
 receive.

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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Lori Dent

Hi,

I don't use pandora but after reading the  responce from pandora to the 
blind user  about their app, I think the responce from pandora to the blind 
users was very uncalled for and very rude  and I think I would never 
recommend pandora to anyone because of their nasty comments about blind 
people an just being very nasty in my opinion .
This sort of thing should be reported  and the person who develops the 
pandora app should have their app  removed from the apple store all 
together. Plus the pandora people need to apologise  for  saying nasty 
comments about blind people because this kind of behavior from pandora is 
unexceptable .


Lori 


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RE: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Tristan
My e-mail to the list yesterday can contest to Pandora not all being like
that. I got a very professional and well-meant response from them.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

I don't believe this is true. If you believe what this email says, maybe you
should email Pandora and see for yourself what type of response you will
receive.

  Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Blind Treasures 
blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora 
 should hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the 
 response that a blind person received from Pandora when asking if they 
 could make their app more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
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 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology 
 blindt...@emissives.com These guys have sunk to an all new low. This 
 was taken from a friend of mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen 
 to know that the original message that was sent enquiring about the 
 latest accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in
any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and 
 will never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's 
 written us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't 
 tell you when or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we 
 really don't support blind people. Perhaps you should go find another 
 app that is more let speech hold your hand while you cross the street 
 friendly. Maybe our app is too hard for you non-seeing beings. Just 
 shows what a disaster it is to be born blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to 
 it when we get to it.
 
 
 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread alberto
I believe this is one of few people who do that.  I would suggest reporting 
such person.  Just because one of their personnel is mean doesn't mean all are.
If your fringe is so enclined I bet the better result is reporting this to them.
Sighted people do it all the time why shouldn't we report when we are miss 
treated.
JMO
Alberto
On Jun 14, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote:

 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
 hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
 *** 
 
 From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
 blindt...@emissives.com
 These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
 mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
 never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
 us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
 or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
 blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
 hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
 when we get to it.
 
 
 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread alberto
I agree I emailed them myself and they responded quite nicely.
On Jun 14, 2014, at 5:29 PM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I don't believe this is true. If you believe what this email says, maybe you 
 should email Pandora and see for yourself what type of response you will 
 receive.
 
  Regards, Feliciano
 
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
 
 On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Blind Treasures  blindtreasu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
 hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
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 From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
 blindt...@emissives.com
 These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
 mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
 never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
 us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
 or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
 blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
 hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
 when we get to it.
 
 
 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread alia robinson
exactly, to say everyone there is that way and write them off isn't going to 
accomplish anything. If this person did say that then the people there need to 
know it. 

Alia
On Jun 14, 2014, at 8:35 PM, alberto alberto.a...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe this is one of few people who do that.  I would suggest reporting 
 such person.  Just because one of their personnel is mean doesn't mean all 
 are.
 If your fringe is so enclined I bet the better result is reporting this to 
 them.
 Sighted people do it all the time why shouldn't we report when we are miss 
 treated.
 JMO
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Donna
This Facebook message isn't true. The ONLY facebook page that I could find, 
Pandora user's can't post messages to the page. There however many Pandora 
pages created by individuals, who have people discussing the Pandora app. 

Pandora Radio is actually Pandora Media. pandora is a large millions dollar 
company, not your run of the mill app developer. 

So I doubt a large company like Pandora would have such a non-compassionate and 
rude employee. 

Donna

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't use pandora but after reading the  responce from pandora to the blind 
 user  about their app, I think the responce from pandora to the blind users 
 was very uncalled for and very rude  and I think I would never recommend 
 pandora to anyone because of their nasty comments about blind people an just 
 being very nasty in my opinion .
 This sort of thing should be reported  and the person who develops the 
 pandora app should have their app  removed from the apple store all together. 
 Plus the pandora people need to apologise  for  saying nasty comments about 
 blind people because this kind of behavior from pandora is unexceptable .
 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Sounds like a scam, or like someone is impersonating a Pandora rep. 
Smells like an urban legend starting.


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On 6/14/2014 6:18 PM, Blind Treasures wrote:

I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
more accessible. Atrocious!
I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!

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Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora

Begin forwarded message:
From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
To: blindt...@emissives.com
Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
blindt...@emissives.com
These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
mines facebook.



This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.



Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
blind, hum?



Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
when we get to it.



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RE: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Blind Treasures
Just passing the info on, whether you believe it or not is up to each
individual. I thought it was a little out in right field myself, but I have
ran across rude people before, even in large companies.

I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
This is not first-hand or even second-hand information, so I take it with a 
large ocean of salt. I don't know which is more incredible: the message itself 
or the willingness to take it as fact. I don't believe it's a good idea to base 
responses on hearsay alone. Do thy research. I kind of wish there was an 
equivalent of Snopes to dispel some of these rumors that pop up with regards to 
accessibility. Given my frame of mind at the moment, I almost want to start 
such a page. It's challenging enough to deal with accessibility issues without 
wading through nasty and silly nonsense. Folks, let's work on the stuff we do 
know about and have some direct communication between users and developers to 
fix it.

Teresa, (very peeved) 

Teresa Cochran
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On Jun 14, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 This Facebook message isn't true. The ONLY facebook page that I could find, 
 Pandora user's can't post messages to the page. There however many Pandora 
 pages created by individuals, who have people discussing the Pandora app. 
 
 Pandora Radio is actually Pandora Media. pandora is a large millions dollar 
 company, not your run of the mill app developer. 
 
 So I doubt a large company like Pandora would have such a non-compassionate 
 and rude employee. 
 
 Donna
 
 On Jun 14, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't use pandora but after reading the  responce from pandora to the 
 blind user  about their app, I think the responce from pandora to the blind 
 users was very uncalled for and very rude  and I think I would never 
 recommend pandora to anyone because of their nasty comments about blind 
 people an just being very nasty in my opinion .
 This sort of thing should be reported  and the person who develops the 
 pandora app should have their app  removed from the apple store all 
 together. Plus the pandora people need to apologise  for  saying nasty 
 comments about blind people because this kind of behavior from pandora is 
 unexceptable .
 
 Lori 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Anthony Vece
I can't believe that anyone would give any credence to a message such as this.
And, pass it along and expect people to also believe it?



Sent from my iPhone 5s!

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Blind Treasures  blindtreasu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
 hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
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 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
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 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
 blindt...@emissives.com
 These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
 mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
 never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
 us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
 or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
 blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
 hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
 when we get to it.
 
 
 
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RE: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Tristan
This is seriously not a Facebook scam. I'm not saying the message wasn't
forged, but it did not originate in Facebook.

It originated from a message posted on the AppleVis.com web forum.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Anthony Vece
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

I can't believe that anyone would give any credence to a message such as
this.
And, pass it along and expect people to also believe it?



Sent from my iPhone 5s!

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Blind Treasures 
blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora 
 should hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the 
 response that a blind person received from Pandora when asking if they 
 could make their app more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
 ***
 
 From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List 
 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology 
 blindt...@emissives.com These guys have sunk to an all new low. This 
 was taken from a friend of mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen 
 to know that the original message that was sent enquiring about the 
 latest accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in
any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and 
 will never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's 
 written us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't 
 tell you when or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we 
 really don't support blind people. Perhaps you should go find another 
 app that is more let speech hold your hand while you cross the street 
 friendly. Maybe our app is too hard for you non-seeing beings. Just 
 shows what a disaster it is to be born blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to 
 it when we get to it.
 
 
 
 Warren | Pandora
 
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RE: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I also do absolutely not believe that this message was sent from a
representative of Pandora; it was probably some idiot who pretended to be
such a person. It came via Facebook, correct? I would forward this to
Pandora since I am quite certain that they are being incorrectly accused of
this.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Feliciano G
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 4:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

I don't believe this is true. If you believe what this email says, maybe you
should email Pandora and see for yourself what type of response you will
receive.

  Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Blind Treasures 
blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
 hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that
a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their
app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
 *** 
 
 From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
 blindt...@emissives.com
 These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
 mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to
know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
 never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
 us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
 or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
 blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let
speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
 hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be
born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
 when we get to it.
 
 
 
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RE: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Tristan
http://applevis.com/forum/ios-ios-app-discussion/interesting-pandora-update
It did not come from Facebook.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pandora Response to accessibility

I also do absolutely not believe that this message was sent from a
representative of Pandora; it was probably some idiot who pretended to be
such a person. It came via Facebook, correct? I would forward this to
Pandora since I am quite certain that they are being incorrectly accused of
this.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Feliciano G
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 4:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

I don't believe this is true. If you believe what this email says, maybe you
should email Pandora and see for yourself what type of response you will
receive.

  Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Blind Treasures 
blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora 
 should hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the 
 response that
a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make 
 their
app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
 ***
 
 From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List 
 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology 
 blindt...@emissives.com These guys have sunk to an all new low. This 
 was taken from a friend of mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen 
 to
know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest 
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and 
 will never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's 
 written us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't 
 tell you when or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we 
 really don't support blind people. Perhaps you should go find another 
 app that is more let
speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is 
 too hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is 
 to be
born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to 
 it when we get to it.
 
 
 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Feliciano G
Maybe you should email Pandora and see what type of response you get, you know 
how it goes when you see things on Facebook. People just like to create drama. 
Facebook seems to be a place where a lot of people vent.

Twitter: @Theblindman12v www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 

  Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Blind Treasures  blindtreasu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 Just passing the info on, whether you believe it or not is up to each
 individual. I thought it was a little out in right field myself, but I have
 ran across rude people before, even in large companies.
 
 I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than
 live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway
 
 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Joseph FreeTech
I didn't want to add to the list clutter, but at times there is a serious 
lack of basic critical thinking on these lists. Its almost as if people are 
sitting around waiting, just waiting to be insulted or in some way be 
mistreated, for which they are thrown into a needless rage and silly 
behavior follows.

Joseph 

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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Andy Baracco
I cannot believe that anyone in an official capacity with the company wrote 
that. Considering that it appeared on Facebook, anybody could have written 
that. it sounds like it was written by a 12 year old.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Blind Treasures

Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Pandora Response to accessibility

I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
more accessible. Atrocious!
I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!

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[mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora

Begin forwarded message:
From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
To: blindt...@emissives.com
Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
blindt...@emissives.com
These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
mines facebook.



This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.



Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
blind, hum?



Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
when we get to it.



Warren | Pandora

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