Profiles [was Re: VO sounds]
I didn't have a Windows Mobile phone, but I did have several Symbian phones from Nokia, and they also supported profiles. I agree this would be a great feature. As with Symbian phones, you could control sounds but also other settings, such as cellular data, wifi, bluetooth and so on. Apple could even tie this to your current location. On 10/10/2013 11:04 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: :) It is definitely hard to try to please all the people huh? We all have such different tastes needs. Funny enough, in IOS7, turning VO sounds off was one thing I was so looking forward to. Often, when I'm at home and very quietly using my phone, I was muting it. The down side of this for me, I tended to miss alerts. I love not having the clicks and sounds of VO. I'm confused about something… I thought when we mute our phone, VoiceOver won't read alerts and such on the lock screen. Another suggestion for folks, go into the control center and put do not disturb on. For any of you beta testers or who may have influence, here is one thing I continue to miss from my old windows phone. Profiles!!! Why in the world, does Apple not have this option!? It would be the perfect item for the control center. Imagine a ticker that you could flick through, outdoor, in a meeting, sleeping, etc. Do you guys remember this from windows phones? There were something like 4 different profiles that modified the phones sound style. It was something I used often back in the day. Anyway, I'm sorry for the users that aren't fond of this changed feature. I'm definitely in the camp of loving it! :) Traci Getting bored waiting for her iPhone5s On Oct 6, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, One can always turn down the volume to zero. If not, one can also 3 fingers double tap to turn speech off. Third option is triple click on home button to turn vo off. Beside, one can also choose to use headphone, in that way, no one else can listen to the anoying voiceover on speaker. Yes, VO is rather anoying, when its on speaker. :) On 07/10/2013, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I agree completely with Cara here. I want to be able to hit the mute button and turn off all sounds and VoiceOver. I don't want to be in a meeting and realize I forgot to turn off the sounds on my phone and have to unlock it so I can turn it off or go into settings to turn sounds off. I don't always want to turn the phone off because I may want to quickly look something up, check for messages or take a quick note. It may be true that the mute button just turns off the ringer and alerts, but those are the sounds a phone makes when VoiceOver isn't on. I think the real purpose of the mute button, as used by sighted users, is to mute the phone, i.e. turn all sounds off. The vibration may bother some, but if the phone is in my pocket, it's much less bothersome to those around me than having VoiceOver go off and start reading an alert. On 10/06/2013 07:21 PM, Brice Smith wrote: I love being able to turn VO sounds on and off. It might be one of my favorite, most used features of IOS 7. I often want to silence the ringer and text message volume but keep VO clicks on. I use VO sounds for orientation purposes and always felt disoriented when they weren't on before. For those who find this inconvenient, remember that the real purpose of the mute switch is to silence ringer and text alerts, not to make the phone truly silent. In fact, vibration alerts can be more annoying than ringing alerts for some people. Also, if the mute switch is down but voiceover is still on and at a loud volume, you'll still hear it speak at that loud volume if you unlock the phone, check the time, ETC. Mentally, I think it's most helpful to think of the mute switch as just that: a switch that mutes the ringer/phone noise. If you want total silence, turn the phone off. Brice On 10/6/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Cara, I can see how maybe Voiceover sounds should be linked to the Mute switch as was the case before iOS 7, but I think I remember several posts where people actually thought it was nice that now this was no longer the case and that one could mute the phone (ringer and alerts) yet still get Voiceover sounds. As for having Voiceover linked to the mute switch, I don't think you'll find too much support for that. In any case, it's not really a big deal to press power or home to bring up the lock screen and then to turn speech off with a 3-finger double tap which always has and still works fine. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VO sounds Hi shane, I personally wish that I could continue to have my VO sounds linked with my mute switch. I basically need to do several more steps now to toggle the sounds off (even with sounds in the
Re: Profiles [was Re: VO sounds]
A out and about profile would be nice. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 10, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't have a Windows Mobile phone, but I did have several Symbian phones from Nokia, and they also supported profiles. I agree this would be a great feature. As with Symbian phones, you could control sounds but also other settings, such as cellular data, wifi, bluetooth and so on. Apple could even tie this to your current location. On 10/10/2013 11:04 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: :) It is definitely hard to try to please all the people huh? We all have such different tastes needs. Funny enough, in IOS7, turning VO sounds off was one thing I was so looking forward to. Often, when I'm at home and very quietly using my phone, I was muting it. The down side of this for me, I tended to miss alerts. I love not having the clicks and sounds of VO. I'm confused about something… I thought when we mute our phone, VoiceOver won't read alerts and such on the lock screen. Another suggestion for folks, go into the control center and put do not disturb on. For any of you beta testers or who may have influence, here is one thing I continue to miss from my old windows phone. Profiles!!! Why in the world, does Apple not have this option!? It would be the perfect item for the control center. Imagine a ticker that you could flick through, outdoor, in a meeting, sleeping, etc. Do you guys remember this from windows phones? There were something like 4 different profiles that modified the phones sound style. It was something I used often back in the day. Anyway, I'm sorry for the users that aren't fond of this changed feature. I'm definitely in the camp of loving it! :) Traci Getting bored waiting for her iPhone5s On Oct 6, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, One can always turn down the volume to zero. If not, one can also 3 fingers double tap to turn speech off. Third option is triple click on home button to turn vo off. Beside, one can also choose to use headphone, in that way, no one else can listen to the anoying voiceover on speaker. Yes, VO is rather anoying, when its on speaker. :) On 07/10/2013, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I agree completely with Cara here. I want to be able to hit the mute button and turn off all sounds and VoiceOver. I don't want to be in a meeting and realize I forgot to turn off the sounds on my phone and have to unlock it so I can turn it off or go into settings to turn sounds off. I don't always want to turn the phone off because I may want to quickly look something up, check for messages or take a quick note. It may be true that the mute button just turns off the ringer and alerts, but those are the sounds a phone makes when VoiceOver isn't on. I think the real purpose of the mute button, as used by sighted users, is to mute the phone, i.e. turn all sounds off. The vibration may bother some, but if the phone is in my pocket, it's much less bothersome to those around me than having VoiceOver go off and start reading an alert. On 10/06/2013 07:21 PM, Brice Smith wrote: I love being able to turn VO sounds on and off. It might be one of my favorite, most used features of IOS 7. I often want to silence the ringer and text message volume but keep VO clicks on. I use VO sounds for orientation purposes and always felt disoriented when they weren't on before. For those who find this inconvenient, remember that the real purpose of the mute switch is to silence ringer and text alerts, not to make the phone truly silent. In fact, vibration alerts can be more annoying than ringing alerts for some people. Also, if the mute switch is down but voiceover is still on and at a loud volume, you'll still hear it speak at that loud volume if you unlock the phone, check the time, ETC. Mentally, I think it's most helpful to think of the mute switch as just that: a switch that mutes the ringer/phone noise. If you want total silence, turn the phone off. Brice On 10/6/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Cara, I can see how maybe Voiceover sounds should be linked to the Mute switch as was the case before iOS 7, but I think I remember several posts where people actually thought it was nice that now this was no longer the case and that one could mute the phone (ringer and alerts) yet still get Voiceover sounds. As for having Voiceover linked to the mute switch, I don't think you'll find too much support for that. In any case, it's not really a big deal to press power or home to bring up the lock screen and then to turn speech off with a 3-finger double tap which always has and still works fine. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:27 PM To:
Re: Profiles [was Re: VO sounds]
I forgot that there was an option to customize your own profile. Hmmm, maybe we should stop this topic? It isn't really iDevice related anymore. ;) Traci On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: A out and about profile would be nice. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 10, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't have a Windows Mobile phone, but I did have several Symbian phones from Nokia, and they also supported profiles. I agree this would be a great feature. As with Symbian phones, you could control sounds but also other settings, such as cellular data, wifi, bluetooth and so on. Apple could even tie this to your current location. On 10/10/2013 11:04 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: :) It is definitely hard to try to please all the people huh? We all have such different tastes needs. Funny enough, in IOS7, turning VO sounds off was one thing I was so looking forward to. Often, when I'm at home and very quietly using my phone, I was muting it. The down side of this for me, I tended to miss alerts. I love not having the clicks and sounds of VO. I'm confused about something… I thought when we mute our phone, VoiceOver won't read alerts and such on the lock screen. Another suggestion for folks, go into the control center and put do not disturb on. For any of you beta testers or who may have influence, here is one thing I continue to miss from my old windows phone. Profiles!!! Why in the world, does Apple not have this option!? It would be the perfect item for the control center. Imagine a ticker that you could flick through, outdoor, in a meeting, sleeping, etc. Do you guys remember this from windows phones? There were something like 4 different profiles that modified the phones sound style. It was something I used often back in the day. Anyway, I'm sorry for the users that aren't fond of this changed feature. I'm definitely in the camp of loving it! :) Traci Getting bored waiting for her iPhone5s On Oct 6, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, One can always turn down the volume to zero. If not, one can also 3 fingers double tap to turn speech off. Third option is triple click on home button to turn vo off. Beside, one can also choose to use headphone, in that way, no one else can listen to the anoying voiceover on speaker. Yes, VO is rather anoying, when its on speaker. :) On 07/10/2013, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I agree completely with Cara here. I want to be able to hit the mute button and turn off all sounds and VoiceOver. I don't want to be in a meeting and realize I forgot to turn off the sounds on my phone and have to unlock it so I can turn it off or go into settings to turn sounds off. I don't always want to turn the phone off because I may want to quickly look something up, check for messages or take a quick note. It may be true that the mute button just turns off the ringer and alerts, but those are the sounds a phone makes when VoiceOver isn't on. I think the real purpose of the mute button, as used by sighted users, is to mute the phone, i.e. turn all sounds off. The vibration may bother some, but if the phone is in my pocket, it's much less bothersome to those around me than having VoiceOver go off and start reading an alert. On 10/06/2013 07:21 PM, Brice Smith wrote: I love being able to turn VO sounds on and off. It might be one of my favorite, most used features of IOS 7. I often want to silence the ringer and text message volume but keep VO clicks on. I use VO sounds for orientation purposes and always felt disoriented when they weren't on before. For those who find this inconvenient, remember that the real purpose of the mute switch is to silence ringer and text alerts, not to make the phone truly silent. In fact, vibration alerts can be more annoying than ringing alerts for some people. Also, if the mute switch is down but voiceover is still on and at a loud volume, you'll still hear it speak at that loud volume if you unlock the phone, check the time, ETC. Mentally, I think it's most helpful to think of the mute switch as just that: a switch that mutes the ringer/phone noise. If you want total silence, turn the phone off. Brice On 10/6/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Cara, I can see how maybe Voiceover sounds should be linked to the Mute switch as was the case before iOS 7, but I think I remember several posts where people actually thought it was nice that now this was no longer the case and that one could mute the phone (ringer and alerts) yet still get Voiceover sounds. As for having Voiceover linked to the mute switch, I don't think you'll find too much support for that. In any case, it's not really a big deal to press power or home to bring up the lock screen and then to turn speech off with a 3-finger double
