Re: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-21 Thread Joshua Hendrickson 
Even with my iPhone 8, I have just had the battery replaced.  I do
like the increased battery life.  I can tell the difference in the
length of time I have between charges compared to what I had before.

On 11/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Given Apple has increased the battery and it's brand-new so it should. But
> once again even after a year of using my iPhone 11 I have no problems
> getting through an entire day and I often am only between 30% and 50% even
> if I use the phone a lot.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Dennis Long
> Sent: November 21, 2021 5:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: 13 vs 13 pro
>
> I am very happy with my 13 pro.  It has excellent battery life.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 11:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: 13 vs 13 pro
>
> Aside from the LIDAR scanner, which Judy Dixon wrote an excellent article
> about that I will post the link to below, it will have much better battery
> life than the regular 13.
> Her article was done in May talking about the 12 Pro which was the first to
> have LIDAR.  The 13 Pro also has LIDAR and the newer processor, etc.
> Judy Dixon's article: The Power of LIDAR comes to an iPhone near you:
> https://www.afb.org/aw/22/5/17555
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
> Lyons
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 8:47 AM
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> Subject: 13 vs 13 pro
>
> I will be getting a new phone and currently have the 11 pro. My nephew tells
> me I can save about ''$200 if I get the 13. He has the 13 and says the
> camera is quite good. Are there other features that a blind person would use
> to warrant getting the 13 pro?
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RE: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Given Apple has increased the battery and it's brand-new so it should. But once 
again even after a year of using my iPhone 11 I have no problems getting 
through an entire day and I often am only between 30% and 50% even if I use the 
phone a lot.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: November 21, 2021 5:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 13 vs 13 pro

I am very happy with my 13 pro.  It has excellent battery life.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 13 vs 13 pro

Aside from the LIDAR scanner, which Judy Dixon wrote an excellent article about 
that I will post the link to below, it will have much better battery life than 
the regular 13.
Her article was done in May talking about the 12 Pro which was the first to 
have LIDAR.  The 13 Pro also has LIDAR and the newer processor, etc.
Judy Dixon's article: The Power of LIDAR comes to an iPhone near you:
https://www.afb.org/aw/22/5/17555





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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie 
Lyons
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 8:47 AM
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Subject: 13 vs 13 pro

I will be getting a new phone and currently have the 11 pro. My nephew tells me 
I can save about ''$200 if I get the 13. He has the 13 and says the camera is 
quite good. Are there other features that a blind person would use to warrant 
getting the 13 pro?

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RE: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-21 Thread Dennis Long 
I am very happy with my 13 pro.  It has excellent battery life.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 13 vs 13 pro

Aside from the LIDAR scanner, which Judy Dixon wrote an excellent article about 
that I will post the link to below, it will have much better battery life than 
the regular 13.
Her article was done in May talking about the 12 Pro which was the first to 
have LIDAR.  The 13 Pro also has LIDAR and the newer processor, etc.
Judy Dixon's article: The Power of LIDAR comes to an iPhone near you:
https://www.afb.org/aw/22/5/17555





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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie 
Lyons
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 13 vs 13 pro

I will be getting a new phone and currently have the 11 pro. My nephew tells me 
I can save about ''$200 if I get the 13. He has the 13 and says the camera is 
quite good. Are there other features that a blind person would use to warrant 
getting the 13 pro?

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RE: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-20 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
Hi Marie,

 Honestly,
If you have the 11 pro,
I'd question the need as yet to upgrade,

The 13 is a good phone,
But if anything it's kind of a step backwards,
 The 13 pro gives you slghtly better feature set and a much better screen 
But then if there is really nothing wrong with your 11pro 
Keep it for another 12 months and get the 14 when it becomes available next 
year,

I've gone from an 11 pro max to a 13 pro max and other than the better screen 
quality that I don't use,
Or the camera which is pretty much the same megapicsal rate,
 
The 13pm on ly has the better / newer processor,
Lidar 
And a better battery,

Which really I would have been fine with keeping the 11 pro max,

And don’t' get me wrong he 13pm is a bloody good phone,
But hey it's up to you what you do,

But don't let your nephew talk you in to something that you don't really need 
to go to.

Good luck.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie 
Lyons
Sent: Sunday, 21 November 2021 5:47 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 13 vs 13 pro

I will be getting a new phone and currently have the 11 pro. My nephew tells me 
I can save about ‘’$200 if I get the 13. He has the 13 and says the camera is 
quite good. Are there other features that a blind person would use to warrant 
getting the 13 pro?

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RE: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-20 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
No, 11 range didn’t come out with lidar,
That started with the 12 pro / pro max.

Shame though, I might have kept my 11 pro max if it did.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 21 November 2021 6:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Actually she has an 11 Pro and while I don't think it had the LiDAR, it's a 
fantastic phone.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: November 20, 2021 8:59 AM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: 13 vs 13 pro

I agree with Sieghard's message. I missed the part about you already having an 
11.

Thanks.

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 8:56 AM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
In my opinion that is a waste of money especially if you have an 11 Pro. You 
will get a bit better battery life partly because of course your 13 battery 
will be brand-new and your 11 Pro Max battery is most likely 2 year sold if you 
got the phone when it was released, but I can assure you that apart from that 
you will most likely not notice any differences during your day-to-day use of 
the phone.
It's of course your choice and I assume when he said you can save $200 he means 
simply that the 13 is cheaper than the 13 Pro, but depending on what sort of 
plan you have an whether you are making payments on your phone or buying it 
outright, it is a much better idea to keep it for another year and plan to get 
a 14 or 14 Pro next year as it looks as if there will be much more significant 
changes with that phone from the huge camera upgrade from 12 to 48 Megapixels 
to other features we'll hear about once we get a bit closer to next summer/fall.
I have just the regular iPhone 11 and there is nothing the iPhone 13 has which 
would want to make me upgrade.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Marie 
Lyons
Sent: November 20, 2021 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: 13 vs 13 pro

I will be getting a new phone and currently have the 11 pro. My nephew tells me 
I can save about ‘’$200 if I get the 13. He has the 13 and says the camera is 
quite good. Are there other features that a blind person would use to warrant 
getting the 13 pro?

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RE: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-20 Thread Carolyn 
I ike the smaller size too. 

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Kelly Pierce
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 3:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 13 vs 13 pro

The iPhone 13 Mini will be the last.  I have the 13 Mini and like the better 
battery compared to the iPhone 7.  I like the smaller size.
With the money I saved, I went for a 512 GB version to store music, podcasts, 
and audio books.  In case of low battery, I bought a Slim 2 battery bank for 
$11.  It is slightly thicker than a cigarette lighter and can recharge an 
iPhone once.  It can easily fit into my pants pocket.  The Slim 2 costs a lot 
less than a bigger iPhone.

Kelly



On 11/20/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Well, question, is 14 going to have a Mini?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 11:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: 13 vs 13 pro
>
> In my opinion that is a waste of money especially if you have an 11 
> Pro. You will get a bit better battery life partly because of course 
> your 13 battery will be brand-new and your 11 Pro Max battery is most 
> likely 2 year sold if you got the phone when it was released, but I 
> can assure you that apart from that you will most likely not notice 
> any differences during your day-to-day use of the phone.
> It's of course your choice and I assume when he said you can save $200 
> he means simply that the 13 is cheaper than the 13 Pro, but depending 
> on what sort of plan you have an whether you are making payments on 
> your phone or buying it outright, it is a much better idea to keep it 
> for another year and plan to get a 14 or 14 Pro next year as it looks 
> as if there will be much more significant changes with that phone from 
> the huge camera upgrade from
> 12 to 48 Megapixels to other features we'll hear about once we get a 
> bit closer to next summer/fall.
> I have just the regular iPhone 11 and there is nothing the iPhone 13 
> has which would want to make me upgrade.
>
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Re: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-20 Thread Kelly Pierce 
The iPhone 13 Mini will be the last.  I have the 13 Mini and like the
better battery compared to the iPhone 7.  I like the smaller size.
With the money I saved, I went for a 512 GB version to store music,
podcasts, and audio books.  In case of low battery, I bought a Slim 2
battery bank for $11.  It is slightly thicker than a cigarette lighter
and can recharge an iPhone once.  It can easily fit into my pants
pocket.  The Slim 2 costs a lot less than a bigger iPhone.

Kelly



On 11/20/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Well, question, is 14 going to have a Mini?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 11:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: 13 vs 13 pro
>
> In my opinion that is a waste of money especially if you have an 11 Pro. You
> will get a bit better battery life partly because of course your 13 battery
> will be brand-new and your 11 Pro Max battery is most likely 2 year sold if
> you got the phone when it was released, but I can assure you that apart from
> that you will most likely not notice any differences during your day-to-day
> use of the phone.
> It's of course your choice and I assume when he said you can save $200 he
> means simply that the 13 is cheaper than the 13 Pro, but depending on what
> sort of plan you have an whether you are making payments on your phone or
> buying it outright, it is a much better idea to keep it for another year and
> plan to get a 14 or 14 Pro next year as it looks as if there will be much
> more significant changes with that phone from the huge camera upgrade from
> 12 to 48 Megapixels to other features we'll hear about once we get a bit
> closer to next summer/fall.
> I have just the regular iPhone 11 and there is nothing the iPhone 13 has
> which would want to make me upgrade.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
> Lyons
> Sent: November 20, 2021 8:47 AM
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> Subject: 13 vs 13 pro
>
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> camera is quite good. Are there other features that a blind person would use
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RE: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
No, not according to any rumors at this time. The assumption is that there will 
be two iPhone 14 models and two iPhone 14 Pro models, the regular Pro and the 
Pro Max as always, but the regular iPhone 14 is rumored to also get a big 
brother, not sure if they call it iPhone 14 Max or 14 Plus as they used to do, 
but I believe it is assumed that the regular 14 and 14 Pro will have a 6.1 inch 
screen same as now and that the larger 14 and Pro Max will have a 6.7 inch 
screen, same as the Pro Max now. At this point the era of the Mini models 
appears to end with the expected released of the iPhone 13 Mini next spring.
I know you have an iPhone 11 and once again I wouldn't personally upgrade to a 
13 Mini just for the slightly smaller size, but that is of course choice. One 
of the main reasons why I would not do it for the size is because while one 
could of course use a 13 Mini for at least 4 years or maybe 5, it is unlikely 
that size comes back until Apple really figures out the foldable design and 
they are able to release a foldable iPhone which physically may be relatively 
small, but when unfolded have a large screen.


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Sent: November 20, 2021 9:59 AM
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Well, question, is 14 going to have a Mini? 

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Subject: RE: 13 vs 13 pro

In my opinion that is a waste of money especially if you have an 11 Pro. You 
will get a bit better battery life partly because of course your 13 battery 
will be brand-new and your 11 Pro Max battery is most likely 2 year sold if you 
got the phone when it was released, but I can assure you that apart from that 
you will most likely not notice any differences during your day-to-day use of 
the phone.
It's of course your choice and I assume when he said you can save $200 he means 
simply that the 13 is cheaper than the 13 Pro, but depending on what sort of 
plan you have an whether you are making payments on your phone or buying it 
outright, it is a much better idea to keep it for another year and plan to get 
a 14 or 14 Pro next year as it looks as if there will be much more significant 
changes with that phone from the huge camera upgrade from 12 to 48 Megapixels 
to other features we'll hear about once we get a bit closer to next summer/fall.
I have just the regular iPhone 11 and there is nothing the iPhone 13 has which 
would want to make me upgrade.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 13 vs 13 pro

I will be getting a new phone and currently have the 11 pro. My nephew tells me 
I can save about ‘’$200 if I get the 13. He has the 13 and says the camera is 
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Re: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-20 Thread Marie Lyons 
Thanks for posting this link.

> On Nov 20, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Aside from the LIDAR scanner, which Judy Dixon wrote an excellent article 
> about that I will post the link to below, it will have much better battery 
> life than the regular 13.
> Her article was done in May talking about the 12 Pro which was the first to 
> have LIDAR.  The 13 Pro also has LIDAR and the newer processor, etc.
> Judy Dixon's article: The Power of LIDAR comes to an iPhone near you:
> https://www.afb.org/aw/22/5/17555
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> 
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RE: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-20 Thread Carolyn 
Well, question, is 14 going to have a Mini? 

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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 11:57 AM
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Subject: RE: 13 vs 13 pro

In my opinion that is a waste of money especially if you have an 11 Pro. You 
will get a bit better battery life partly because of course your 13 battery 
will be brand-new and your 11 Pro Max battery is most likely 2 year sold if you 
got the phone when it was released, but I can assure you that apart from that 
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outright, it is a much better idea to keep it for another year and plan to get 
a 14 or 14 Pro next year as it looks as if there will be much more significant 
changes with that phone from the huge camera upgrade from 12 to 48 Megapixels 
to other features we'll hear about once we get a bit closer to next summer/fall.
I have just the regular iPhone 11 and there is nothing the iPhone 13 has which 
would want to make me upgrade.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie 
Lyons
Sent: November 20, 2021 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 13 vs 13 pro

I will be getting a new phone and currently have the 11 pro. My nephew tells me 
I can save about ‘’$200 if I get the 13. He has the 13 and says the camera is 
quite good. Are there other features that a blind person would use to warrant 
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Re: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-20 Thread Richard Turner 
Well, my 13 pro has amazing battery life.
But that is not any reason to spend the extra money.
The LIDAR feature may be, which is why I included the article link so they can 
decide for themselves what is worth their money.



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On Nov 20, 2021, at 8:58 AM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:


Hello Richard,

In my experience, the difference between 13 and 13 pro isn't significant at 
all, in terms of battery. In fact, the battery in the 13 is physically larger, 
though the newer display tech in the 13 pro may provide some battery savings.

I found an article that seems to agree with my assessment: 
https://9to5mac.com/2021/10/08/iphone-13-and-13-pro-battery-test/

I know Apple lists stats that provide much longer video playback time with the 
13 pro, but I can't say that I've seen that.

Thanks.

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 8:53 AM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Aside from the LIDAR scanner, which Judy Dixon wrote an excellent article about 
that I will post the link to below, it will have much better battery life than 
the regular 13.
Her article was done in May talking about the 12 Pro which was the first to 
have LIDAR.  The 13 Pro also has LIDAR and the newer processor, etc.
Judy Dixon's article: The Power of LIDAR comes to an iPhone near you:
https://www.afb.org/aw/22/5/17555





Richard
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exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different 
kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Marie 
Lyons
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 13 vs 13 pro

I will be getting a new phone and currently have the 11 pro. My nephew tells me 
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RE: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Actually she has an 11 Pro and while I don't think it had the LiDAR, it's a 
fantastic phone.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: November 20, 2021 8:59 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: 13 vs 13 pro

I agree with Sieghard's message. I missed the part about you already having an 
11.

Thanks.

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 8:56 AM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
In my opinion that is a waste of money especially if you have an 11 Pro. You 
will get a bit better battery life partly because of course your 13 battery 
will be brand-new and your 11 Pro Max battery is most likely 2 year sold if you 
got the phone when it was released, but I can assure you that apart from that 
you will most likely not notice any differences during your day-to-day use of 
the phone.
It's of course your choice and I assume when he said you can save $200 he means 
simply that the 13 is cheaper than the 13 Pro, but depending on what sort of 
plan you have an whether you are making payments on your phone or buying it 
outright, it is a much better idea to keep it for another year and plan to get 
a 14 or 14 Pro next year as it looks as if there will be much more significant 
changes with that phone from the huge camera upgrade from 12 to 48 Megapixels 
to other features we'll hear about once we get a bit closer to next summer/fall.
I have just the regular iPhone 11 and there is nothing the iPhone 13 has which 
would want to make me upgrade.

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RE: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
There is a big difference between the specs and what you will find during 
average daily use.
Even when I switched from my iPhone 8 to the 11 I didn't even find that it made 
much difference other than battery life. The iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones may 
have a larger battery and offer really good battery life, but I'm using my 
phone quite a lot and find that even my iPhone 11 has really good battery life, 
it very comfortable gets me through the day and that is all I want. Sure, if 
they could figure out a way to make a phone last 2 full days with heavy use 
including GPS that would be great, but I don't think even a 13 Pro Max will do 
this. With the batteries nowadays I am simply not concerned about charging my 
phone because I know I get a new phone before the battery health /capacity has 
dropped to a level where it's an issue. I have charging pads in my office, next 
to my bed, in the living room and it's simply not a big deal to give it a 15 or 
20 minute top up should it really be low for some reason.

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Sent: November 20, 2021 8:58 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: 13 vs 13 pro

Hello Richard,

In my experience, the difference between 13 and 13 pro isn't significant at 
all, in terms of battery. In fact, the battery in the 13 is physically larger, 
though the newer display tech in the 13 pro may provide some battery savings.

I found an article that seems to agree with my assessment: 
https://9to5mac.com/2021/10/08/iphone-13-and-13-pro-battery-test/

I know Apple lists stats that provide much longer video playback time with the 
13 pro, but I can't say that I've seen that.

Thanks.

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 8:53 AM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Aside from the LIDAR scanner, which Judy Dixon wrote an excellent article about 
that I will post the link to below, it will have much better battery life than 
the regular 13.
Her article was done in May talking about the 12 Pro which was the first to 
have LIDAR.  The 13 Pro also has LIDAR and the newer processor, etc.
Judy Dixon's article: The Power of LIDAR comes to an iPhone near you:
https://www.afb.org/aw/22/5/17555





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I will be getting a new phone and currently have the 11 pro. My nephew tells me 
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Re: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-20 Thread Nimer Jaber 
I agree with Sieghard's message. I missed the part about you already having
an 11.

Thanks.

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 8:56 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> In my opinion that is a waste of money especially if you have an 11 Pro.
> You will get a bit better battery life partly because of course your 13
> battery will be brand-new and your 11 Pro Max battery is most likely 2 year
> sold if you got the phone when it was released, but I can assure you that
> apart from that you will most likely not notice any differences during your
> day-to-day use of the phone.
> It's of course your choice and I assume when he said you can save $200 he
> means simply that the 13 is cheaper than the 13 Pro, but depending on what
> sort of plan you have an whether you are making payments on your phone or
> buying it outright, it is a much better idea to keep it for another year
> and plan to get a 14 or 14 Pro next year as it looks as if there will be
> much more significant changes with that phone from the huge camera upgrade
> from 12 to 48 Megapixels to other features we'll hear about once we get a
> bit closer to next summer/fall.
> I have just the regular iPhone 11 and there is nothing the iPhone 13 has
> which would want to make me upgrade.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Marie Lyons
> Sent: November 20, 2021 8:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: 13 vs 13 pro
>
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> tells me I can save about ‘’$200 if I get the 13. He has the 13 and says
> the camera is quite good. Are there other features that a blind person
> would use to warrant getting the 13 pro?
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Re: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-20 Thread Nimer Jaber 
Hello Richard,

In my experience, the difference between 13 and 13 pro isn't significant at
all, in terms of battery. In fact, the battery in the 13 is physically
larger, though the newer display tech in the 13 pro may provide some
battery savings.

I found an article that seems to agree with my assessment:
https://9to5mac.com/2021/10/08/iphone-13-and-13-pro-battery-test/

I know Apple lists stats that provide much longer video playback time with
the 13 pro, but I can't say that I've seen that.

Thanks.

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 8:53 AM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> Aside from the LIDAR scanner, which Judy Dixon wrote an excellent article
> about that I will post the link to below, it will have much better battery
> life than the regular 13.
> Her article was done in May talking about the 12 Pro which was the first
> to have LIDAR.  The 13 Pro also has LIDAR and the newer processor, etc.
> Judy Dixon's article: The Power of LIDAR comes to an iPhone near you:
> https://www.afb.org/aw/22/5/17555
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is
> exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different
> kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
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> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 8:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: 13 vs 13 pro
>
> I will be getting a new phone and currently have the 11 pro. My nephew
> tells me I can save about ''$200 if I get the 13. He has the 13 and says
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RE: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
In my opinion that is a waste of money especially if you have an 11 Pro. You 
will get a bit better battery life partly because of course your 13 battery 
will be brand-new and your 11 Pro Max battery is most likely 2 year sold if you 
got the phone when it was released, but I can assure you that apart from that 
you will most likely not notice any differences during your day-to-day use of 
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It's of course your choice and I assume when he said you can save $200 he means 
simply that the 13 is cheaper than the 13 Pro, but depending on what sort of 
plan you have an whether you are making payments on your phone or buying it 
outright, it is a much better idea to keep it for another year and plan to get 
a 14 or 14 Pro next year as it looks as if there will be much more significant 
changes with that phone from the huge camera upgrade from 12 to 48 Megapixels 
to other features we'll hear about once we get a bit closer to next summer/fall.
I have just the regular iPhone 11 and there is nothing the iPhone 13 has which 
would want to make me upgrade.

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Lyons
Sent: November 20, 2021 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 13 vs 13 pro

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RE: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-20 Thread Richard Turner 
Aside from the LIDAR scanner, which Judy Dixon wrote an excellent article about 
that I will post the link to below, it will have much better battery life than 
the regular 13.
Her article was done in May talking about the 12 Pro which was the first to 
have LIDAR.  The 13 Pro also has LIDAR and the newer processor, etc.
Judy Dixon's article: The Power of LIDAR comes to an iPhone near you:
https://www.afb.org/aw/22/5/17555





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Re: 13 vs 13 pro

2021-11-20 Thread Nimer Jaber 
Hello Marie,

I would consider the pro simply because it will come with the LiDar
scanner. If you aren't using apps with Lidar, or you don't see yourself
getting into that, then stick with the regular 13, and you will likely be
satisfied.

Thanks.

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 8:47 AM Marie Lyons  wrote:

> I will be getting a new phone and currently have the 11 pro. My nephew
> tells me I can save about ‘’$200 if I get the 13. He has the 13 and says
> the camera is quite good. Are there other features that a blind person
> would use to warrant getting the 13 pro?
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