Re: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

2017-08-24 Thread Anthony Vece 
I understand.


> On Aug 23, 2017, at 10:46 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Anthony, as I said before, it's a matter of how you perceive things, I also 
> have the Voyager Edge and I have tried out the Apple Airpods at an Apple 
> Store and for both I notice about the same amount of lag. It's not huge, in 
> many situations you may not think there is lag, but when I notice it it's 
> annoying enough to make me want to use my wired Earpods.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 1:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones
> 
> I use  the Apple AirPods AirPods and I also the Voyager Edge and, I don't 
> notice any lag at all.
> @@ @ 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!
> 
>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 3:01 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. 
>> 
>> I have to say that I totally agree with you. I have owned several different 
>> BT headsets and they all have a lag with some being better than others. I do 
>> have to say however that the Apple AirPods that I own now has the least 
>> amount of lag. I have never seen a BT headset with absolutely no lag.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Rick Alfaro
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:31 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones
>> 
>> That must be subjective then because I spent about 15 minutes in an Apple 
>> Store with the Airpods and noticed the lag instantly, it was probably as 
>> good as bluetooth lag gets, but my Voyager Edge and a couple of other 
>> bluetooth device I have are no different.
>> In my case the Plantronics Backbeat Sense were so bad that I packed them 
>> right back up and returned them which was easy as I had bought them from 
>> Amazon. That was about over a year ago so maybe they have done something to 
>> the current generation which makes it better. I rarely use a bluetooth 
>> keyboard so this terrible lag was using the onscreen keyboard and I would 
>> say it was at least a three quarter second, that is absolutely too much to 
>> be acceptable.
>> I have yet to try any bluetooth device with no lag, the technology at this 
>> point is such that a 0 lag device simply does not exist.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Anthony Vece
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 7:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones
>> 
>> I use the Apple Airpods and, there is absolutely no lag at all.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:11 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi richard,
>>> I know you said you were using a Bluetooth keyboard. How are those 
>>> headphones when you were interacting with it phone using the touchscreen? 
>>> Maybe you want to just type in an address, so you want to hear each letter 
>>> echoed. Or perhaps you are looking around the screen for something. How is 
>>> that lag? That has been my grape against a lot of Bluetooth earpieces, that 
>>> lag.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I am typing this with a LogicTech K480 keyboard.
>>>> It is on bluetooth as are the headphones.
>>>> I would say that the delay is noticeable, but it is less than half a 
>>>> second in length.
>>>> I do not have a timer that I can fire at the same time I type a letter, 
>>>> but with the keyboard setting to echo words, when I type the word "words" 
>>>> and hit a space or punctuation, it says words at the same time I am typing 
>>>> the next word.
>>>> I type approximately 80 to 90 words a minute.
>>>> I cannot type ahead of VoiceOver more than a very small part of a word.
>>>> So, I'm not bothered by the delay.
>>>> but that is a p

RE: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

2017-08-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Anthony, as I said before, it's a matter of how you perceive things, I also 
have the Voyager Edge and I have tried out the Apple Airpods at an Apple Store 
and for both I notice about the same amount of lag. It's not huge, in many 
situations you may not think there is lag, but when I notice it it's annoying 
enough to make me want to use my wired Earpods.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

I use  the Apple AirPods AirPods and I also the Voyager Edge and, I don't 
notice any lag at all.
@@ @ 

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!

> On Aug 23, 2017, at 3:01 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi. 
> 
> I have to say that I totally agree with you. I have owned several different 
> BT headsets and they all have a lag with some being better than others. I do 
> have to say however that the Apple AirPods that I own now has the least 
> amount of lag. I have never seen a BT headset with absolutely no lag.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones
> 
> That must be subjective then because I spent about 15 minutes in an Apple 
> Store with the Airpods and noticed the lag instantly, it was probably as good 
> as bluetooth lag gets, but my Voyager Edge and a couple of other bluetooth 
> device I have are no different.
> In my case the Plantronics Backbeat Sense were so bad that I packed them 
> right back up and returned them which was easy as I had bought them from 
> Amazon. That was about over a year ago so maybe they have done something to 
> the current generation which makes it better. I rarely use a bluetooth 
> keyboard so this terrible lag was using the onscreen keyboard and I would say 
> it was at least a three quarter second, that is absolutely too much to be 
> acceptable.
> I have yet to try any bluetooth device with no lag, the technology at this 
> point is such that a 0 lag device simply does not exist.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 7:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones
> 
> I use the Apple Airpods and, there is absolutely no lag at all.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:11 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi richard,
>> I know you said you were using a Bluetooth keyboard. How are those 
>> headphones when you were interacting with it phone using the touchscreen? 
>> Maybe you want to just type in an address, so you want to hear each letter 
>> echoed. Or perhaps you are looking around the screen for something. How is 
>> that lag? That has been my grape against a lot of Bluetooth earpieces, that 
>> lag.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I am typing this with a LogicTech K480 keyboard.
>>> It is on bluetooth as are the headphones.
>>> I would say that the delay is noticeable, but it is less than half a second 
>>> in length.
>>> I do not have a timer that I can fire at the same time I type a letter, but 
>>> with the keyboard setting to echo words, when I type the word "words" and 
>>> hit a space or punctuation, it says words at the same time I am typing the 
>>> next word.
>>> I type approximately 80 to 90 words a minute.
>>> I cannot type ahead of VoiceOver more than a very small part of a word.
>>> So, I'm not bothered by the delay.
>>> but that is a personal preference.
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:22 PM, denise Avant <denise.av...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> How is the lag while typing. I have been thinking of getting these.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

2017-08-23 Thread Anthony Vece 
I use  the Apple AirPods AirPods and I also the Voyager Edge and, I don't 
notice any lag at all.
@@ @ 

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!

> On Aug 23, 2017, at 3:01 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi. 
> 
> I have to say that I totally agree with you. I have owned several different 
> BT headsets and they all have a lag with some being better than others. I do 
> have to say however that the Apple AirPods that I own now has the least 
> amount of lag. I have never seen a BT headset with absolutely no lag.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones
> 
> That must be subjective then because I spent about 15 minutes in an Apple 
> Store with the Airpods and noticed the lag instantly, it was probably as good 
> as bluetooth lag gets, but my Voyager Edge and a couple of other bluetooth 
> device I have are no different.
> In my case the Plantronics Backbeat Sense were so bad that I packed them 
> right back up and returned them which was easy as I had bought them from 
> Amazon. That was about over a year ago so maybe they have done something to 
> the current generation which makes it better. I rarely use a bluetooth 
> keyboard so this terrible lag was using the onscreen keyboard and I would say 
> it was at least a three quarter second, that is absolutely too much to be 
> acceptable.
> I have yet to try any bluetooth device with no lag, the technology at this 
> point is such that a 0 lag device simply does not exist.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 7:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones
> 
> I use the Apple Airpods and, there is absolutely no lag at all.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:11 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi richard,
>> I know you said you were using a Bluetooth keyboard. How are those 
>> headphones when you were interacting with it phone using the touchscreen? 
>> Maybe you want to just type in an address, so you want to hear each letter 
>> echoed. Or perhaps you are looking around the screen for something. How is 
>> that lag? That has been my grape against a lot of Bluetooth earpieces, that 
>> lag.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I am typing this with a LogicTech K480 keyboard.
>>> It is on bluetooth as are the headphones.
>>> I would say that the delay is noticeable, but it is less than half a second 
>>> in length.
>>> I do not have a timer that I can fire at the same time I type a letter, but 
>>> with the keyboard setting to echo words, when I type the word "words" and 
>>> hit a space or punctuation, it says words at the same time I am typing the 
>>> next word.
>>> I type approximately 80 to 90 words a minute.
>>> I cannot type ahead of VoiceOver more than a very small part of a word.
>>> So, I'm not bothered by the delay.
>>> but that is a personal preference.
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:22 PM, denise Avant <denise.av...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> How is the lag while typing. I have been thinking of getting these.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:12 PM
>>>> To: 'ViPone list (viphone@googlegroups.com)' <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones
>>>> 
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> 
>>>> As promised, I am writing about the Backbeat Sense Bluetooth headphones 
>>>> from Plantronics that I received yesterday.
>>>> These are over the ear headphones that claim 18 hours of talk time, have a 
>>>> microphone and Plantronics usual attention to detail with the spoken 
>>>> prompts about

RE: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

2017-08-23 Thread Rick Alfaro 
Hi. 

I have to say that I totally agree with you. I have owned several different BT 
headsets and they all have a lag with some being better than others. I do have 
to say however that the Apple AirPods that I own now has the least amount of 
lag. I have never seen a BT headset with absolutely no lag.





Best,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

That must be subjective then because I spent about 15 minutes in an Apple Store 
with the Airpods and noticed the lag instantly, it was probably as good as 
bluetooth lag gets, but my Voyager Edge and a couple of other bluetooth device 
I have are no different.
In my case the Plantronics Backbeat Sense were so bad that I packed them right 
back up and returned them which was easy as I had bought them from Amazon. That 
was about over a year ago so maybe they have done something to the current 
generation which makes it better. I rarely use a bluetooth keyboard so this 
terrible lag was using the onscreen keyboard and I would say it was at least a 
three quarter second, that is absolutely too much to be acceptable.
I have yet to try any bluetooth device with no lag, the technology at this 
point is such that a 0 lag device simply does not exist.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

I use the Apple Airpods and, there is absolutely no lag at all.


Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:11 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi richard,
> I know you said you were using a Bluetooth keyboard. How are those headphones 
> when you were interacting with it phone using the touchscreen? Maybe you want 
> to just type in an address, so you want to hear each letter echoed. Or 
> perhaps you are looking around the screen for something. How is that lag? 
> That has been my grape against a lot of Bluetooth earpieces, that lag.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I am typing this with a LogicTech K480 keyboard.
>> It is on bluetooth as are the headphones.
>> I would say that the delay is noticeable, but it is less than half a second 
>> in length.
>> I do not have a timer that I can fire at the same time I type a letter, but 
>> with the keyboard setting to echo words, when I type the word "words" and 
>> hit a space or punctuation, it says words at the same time I am typing the 
>> next word.
>> I type approximately 80 to 90 words a minute.
>> I cannot type ahead of VoiceOver more than a very small part of a word.
>> So, I'm not bothered by the delay.
>> but that is a personal preference.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:22 PM, denise Avant <denise.av...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How is the lag while typing. I have been thinking of getting these.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:12 PM
>>> To: 'ViPone list (viphone@googlegroups.com)' <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones
>>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> As promised, I am writing about the Backbeat Sense Bluetooth headphones 
>>> from Plantronics that I received yesterday.
>>> These are over the ear headphones that claim 18 hours of talk time, have a 
>>> microphone and Plantronics usual attention to detail with the spoken 
>>> prompts about battery, pairing, etc.
>>> I had a pair of Bose Mobile over the ear headphones that I really loved, 
>>> but they were only wired.  They died recently after 7 years of daily use.
>>> 
>>> I was looking for a stereo headphone that had Bluetooth when I came across 
>>> these.
>>> Regular Price, $179.  (That is what I paid for the Bose 7 years ago.
>>> B Video/Audio in New York has some for $116.  
>>> They come with the micro USB cable for charging, but no wall charger.  They 
>>> offer one, which we bought, for $6.00.
>>> 
>>> They come in a very nice box, with also a very nice carrying case.
>&g

Re: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

2017-08-17 Thread Richard Turner 
With the onscreen keyboard there is a more noticeable delay. It is certainly 
more than on my one ear plantronics m55 But, I do very little typing on the 
onscreen keyboard and so for me the other features out way the delay.
Richard


> On Aug 16, 2017, at 9:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> That must be subjective then because I spent about 15 minutes in an Apple 
> Store with the Airpods and noticed the lag instantly, it was probably as good 
> as bluetooth lag gets, but my Voyager Edge and a couple of other bluetooth 
> device I have are no different.
> In my case the Plantronics Backbeat Sense were so bad that I packed them 
> right back up and returned them which was easy as I had bought them from 
> Amazon. That was about over a year ago so maybe they have done something to 
> the current generation which makes it better. I rarely use a bluetooth 
> keyboard so this terrible lag was using the onscreen keyboard and I would say 
> it was at least a three quarter second, that is absolutely too much to be 
> acceptable.
> I have yet to try any bluetooth device with no lag, the technology at this 
> point is such that a 0 lag device simply does not exist.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 7:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones
> 
> I use the Apple Airpods and, there is absolutely no lag at all.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:11 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi richard,
>> I know you said you were using a Bluetooth keyboard. How are those 
>> headphones when you were interacting with it phone using the touchscreen? 
>> Maybe you want to just type in an address, so you want to hear each letter 
>> echoed. Or perhaps you are looking around the screen for something. How is 
>> that lag? That has been my grape against a lot of Bluetooth earpieces, that 
>> lag.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I am typing this with a LogicTech K480 keyboard.
>>> It is on bluetooth as are the headphones.
>>> I would say that the delay is noticeable, but it is less than half a second 
>>> in length.
>>> I do not have a timer that I can fire at the same time I type a letter, but 
>>> with the keyboard setting to echo words, when I type the word "words" and 
>>> hit a space or punctuation, it says words at the same time I am typing the 
>>> next word.
>>> I type approximately 80 to 90 words a minute.
>>> I cannot type ahead of VoiceOver more than a very small part of a word.
>>> So, I'm not bothered by the delay.
>>> but that is a personal preference.
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:22 PM, denise Avant <denise.av...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> How is the lag while typing. I have been thinking of getting these.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:12 PM
>>>> To: 'ViPone list (viphone@googlegroups.com)' <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones
>>>> 
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> 
>>>> As promised, I am writing about the Backbeat Sense Bluetooth headphones 
>>>> from Plantronics that I received yesterday.
>>>> These are over the ear headphones that claim 18 hours of talk time, have a 
>>>> microphone and Plantronics usual attention to detail with the spoken 
>>>> prompts about battery, pairing, etc.
>>>> I had a pair of Bose Mobile over the ear headphones that I really loved, 
>>>> but they were only wired.  They died recently after 7 years of daily use.
>>>> 
>>>> I was looking for a stereo headphone that had Bluetooth when I came across 
>>>> these.
>>>> Regular Price, $179.  (That is what I paid for the Bose 7 years ago.
>>>> B Video/Audio in New York has some for $116.  
>>>> They come with the micro USB cable for charging, but no wall charger.  
>>>> They offer

RE: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

2017-08-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
That must be subjective then because I spent about 15 minutes in an Apple Store 
with the Airpods and noticed the lag instantly, it was probably as good as 
bluetooth lag gets, but my Voyager Edge and a couple of other bluetooth device 
I have are no different.
In my case the Plantronics Backbeat Sense were so bad that I packed them right 
back up and returned them which was easy as I had bought them from Amazon. That 
was about over a year ago so maybe they have done something to the current 
generation which makes it better. I rarely use a bluetooth keyboard so this 
terrible lag was using the onscreen keyboard and I would say it was at least a 
three quarter second, that is absolutely too much to be acceptable.
I have yet to try any bluetooth device with no lag, the technology at this 
point is such that a 0 lag device simply does not exist.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

I use the Apple Airpods and, there is absolutely no lag at all.


Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:11 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi richard,
> I know you said you were using a Bluetooth keyboard. How are those headphones 
> when you were interacting with it phone using the touchscreen? Maybe you want 
> to just type in an address, so you want to hear each letter echoed. Or 
> perhaps you are looking around the screen for something. How is that lag? 
> That has been my grape against a lot of Bluetooth earpieces, that lag.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I am typing this with a LogicTech K480 keyboard.
>> It is on bluetooth as are the headphones.
>> I would say that the delay is noticeable, but it is less than half a second 
>> in length.
>> I do not have a timer that I can fire at the same time I type a letter, but 
>> with the keyboard setting to echo words, when I type the word "words" and 
>> hit a space or punctuation, it says words at the same time I am typing the 
>> next word.
>> I type approximately 80 to 90 words a minute.
>> I cannot type ahead of VoiceOver more than a very small part of a word.
>> So, I'm not bothered by the delay.
>> but that is a personal preference.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:22 PM, denise Avant <denise.av...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How is the lag while typing. I have been thinking of getting these.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:12 PM
>>> To: 'ViPone list (viphone@googlegroups.com)' <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones
>>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> As promised, I am writing about the Backbeat Sense Bluetooth headphones 
>>> from Plantronics that I received yesterday.
>>> These are over the ear headphones that claim 18 hours of talk time, have a 
>>> microphone and Plantronics usual attention to detail with the spoken 
>>> prompts about battery, pairing, etc.
>>> I had a pair of Bose Mobile over the ear headphones that I really loved, 
>>> but they were only wired.  They died recently after 7 years of daily use.
>>> 
>>> I was looking for a stereo headphone that had Bluetooth when I came across 
>>> these.
>>> Regular Price, $179.  (That is what I paid for the Bose 7 years ago.
>>> B Video/Audio in New York has some for $116.  
>>> They come with the micro USB cable for charging, but no wall charger.  They 
>>> offer one, which we bought, for $6.00.
>>> 
>>> They come in a very nice box, with also a very nice carrying case.
>>> The selling point for me was that they can connect with two different 
>>> Bluetooth devices.
>>> The delightful surprise that I discovered when I opened the box is that 
>>> they also have a 3.5 to 3.5 MM cable so you can use them as wired 
>>> headphones.  What they say about that in the documentation is that you can 
>>> use them when the battery dies.  So, in actuality, you can use them with 
>>> three devices.
>>> 
>>> I would say the sound quality for listening is almost, if not as good as, 
&g

Re: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

2017-08-16 Thread Anthony Vece 
I use the Apple Airpods and, there is absolutely no lag at all.


Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:11 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi richard,
> I know you said you were using a Bluetooth keyboard. How are those headphones 
> when you were interacting with it phone using the touchscreen? Maybe you want 
> to just type in an address, so you want to hear each letter echoed. Or 
> perhaps you are looking around the screen for something. How is that lag? 
> That has been my grape against a lot of Bluetooth earpieces, that lag.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I am typing this with a LogicTech K480 keyboard.
>> It is on bluetooth as are the headphones.
>> I would say that the delay is noticeable, but it is less than half a second 
>> in length.
>> I do not have a timer that I can fire at the same time I type a letter, but 
>> with the keyboard setting to echo words, when I type the word "words" and 
>> hit a space or punctuation, it says words at the same time I am typing the 
>> next word.
>> I type approximately 80 to 90 words a minute.
>> I cannot type ahead of VoiceOver more than a very small part of a word.
>> So, I'm not bothered by the delay.
>> but that is a personal preference.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:22 PM, denise Avant  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How is the lag while typing. I have been thinking of getting these.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:12 PM
>>> To: 'ViPone list (viphone@googlegroups.com)' 
>>> Subject: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones
>>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> As promised, I am writing about the Backbeat Sense Bluetooth headphones 
>>> from Plantronics that I received yesterday.
>>> These are over the ear headphones that claim 18 hours of talk time, have a 
>>> microphone and Plantronics usual attention to detail with the spoken 
>>> prompts about battery, pairing, etc.
>>> I had a pair of Bose Mobile over the ear headphones that I really loved, 
>>> but they were only wired.  They died recently after 7 years of daily use.
>>> 
>>> I was looking for a stereo headphone that had Bluetooth when I came across 
>>> these.
>>> Regular Price, $179.  (That is what I paid for the Bose 7 years ago.
>>> B Video/Audio in New York has some for $116.  
>>> They come with the micro USB cable for charging, but no wall charger.  They 
>>> offer one, which we bought, for $6.00.
>>> 
>>> They come in a very nice box, with also a very nice carrying case.
>>> The selling point for me was that they can connect with two different 
>>> Bluetooth devices.
>>> The delightful surprise that I discovered when I opened the box is that 
>>> they also have a 3.5 to 3.5 MM cable so you can use them as wired 
>>> headphones.  What they say about that in the documentation is that you can 
>>> use them when the battery dies.  So, in actuality, you can use them with 
>>> three devices.
>>> 
>>> I would say the sound quality for listening is almost, if not as good as, 
>>> the Bose were.
>>> 
>>> They are very comfortable, and the over the head band is adjustable.
>>> They feel like they are made from very high quality material.  
>>> The 3.5 MM cable plugs into the bottom of the right ear cup.  The cable has 
>>> the microphone and buttons on it that work much the same as the iPhone 
>>> Airpods.
>>> They take about 3 hours to fully charge.
>>> I have not run them down on the battery yet.
>>> The microphone sounds fine.  I did a couple test calls with my wife on 
>>> Bluetooth and she had no trouble hearing me.
>>> 
>>> They do block out most of the surrounding sounds, so I won't be using them 
>>> while walking down the street.
>>> 
>>> I am quite impressed in my first day of having them.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Richard Turner 
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 6:33 AM
>>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
>>> Subject: RE: bluetooth headphones
>>> 
>>> I'll let you know next week.
>>> My wife is getting me the new Plantronics Backbeat Sense stereo Bluetooth 
>>> headset.  It is over the ear, it claims 18 hours of talk, and lists for 
>>> $179.
>>> It was on sale briefly for $79 with a code, but I missed it.
>>> She found them through a store called B from new York for $116 with free 
>>> shipping.  It doesn't come with an AC charger, so she added their charger 
>>> for $6.
>>> It does, of course, come with the micro USB charging cable, just not the 
>>> wall plug.
>>> 
>>> Later,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of david gross
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017

Re: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

2017-08-16 Thread Mary Otten 
Hi richard,
I know you said you were using a Bluetooth keyboard. How are those headphones 
when you were interacting with it phone using the touchscreen? Maybe you want 
to just type in an address, so you want to hear each letter echoed. Or perhaps 
you are looking around the screen for something. How is that lag? That has been 
my grape against a lot of Bluetooth earpieces, that lag.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am typing this with a LogicTech K480 keyboard.
> It is on bluetooth as are the headphones.
> I would say that the delay is noticeable, but it is less than half a second 
> in length.
> I do not have a timer that I can fire at the same time I type a letter, but 
> with the keyboard setting to echo words, when I type the word "words" and hit 
> a space or punctuation, it says words at the same time I am typing the next 
> word.
> I type approximately 80 to 90 words a minute.
> I cannot type ahead of VoiceOver more than a very small part of a word.
> So, I'm not bothered by the delay.
> but that is a personal preference.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:22 PM, denise Avant  wrote:
>> 
>> How is the lag while typing. I have been thinking of getting these.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:12 PM
>> To: 'ViPone list (viphone@googlegroups.com)' 
>> Subject: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> As promised, I am writing about the Backbeat Sense Bluetooth headphones from 
>> Plantronics that I received yesterday.
>> These are over the ear headphones that claim 18 hours of talk time, have a 
>> microphone and Plantronics usual attention to detail with the spoken prompts 
>> about battery, pairing, etc.
>> I had a pair of Bose Mobile over the ear headphones that I really loved, but 
>> they were only wired.  They died recently after 7 years of daily use.
>> 
>> I was looking for a stereo headphone that had Bluetooth when I came across 
>> these.
>> Regular Price, $179.  (That is what I paid for the Bose 7 years ago.
>> B Video/Audio in New York has some for $116.  
>> They come with the micro USB cable for charging, but no wall charger.  They 
>> offer one, which we bought, for $6.00.
>> 
>> They come in a very nice box, with also a very nice carrying case.
>> The selling point for me was that they can connect with two different 
>> Bluetooth devices.
>> The delightful surprise that I discovered when I opened the box is that they 
>> also have a 3.5 to 3.5 MM cable so you can use them as wired headphones.  
>> What they say about that in the documentation is that you can use them when 
>> the battery dies.  So, in actuality, you can use them with three devices.
>> 
>> I would say the sound quality for listening is almost, if not as good as, 
>> the Bose were.
>> 
>> They are very comfortable, and the over the head band is adjustable.
>> They feel like they are made from very high quality material.  
>> The 3.5 MM cable plugs into the bottom of the right ear cup.  The cable has 
>> the microphone and buttons on it that work much the same as the iPhone 
>> Airpods.
>> They take about 3 hours to fully charge.
>> I have not run them down on the battery yet.
>> The microphone sounds fine.  I did a couple test calls with my wife on 
>> Bluetooth and she had no trouble hearing me.
>> 
>> They do block out most of the surrounding sounds, so I won't be using them 
>> while walking down the street.
>> 
>> I am quite impressed in my first day of having them.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Richard Turner 
>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 6:33 AM
>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
>> Subject: RE: bluetooth headphones
>> 
>> I'll let you know next week.
>> My wife is getting me the new Plantronics Backbeat Sense stereo Bluetooth 
>> headset.  It is over the ear, it claims 18 hours of talk, and lists for $179.
>> It was on sale briefly for $79 with a code, but I missed it.
>> She found them through a store called B from new York for $116 with free 
>> shipping.  It doesn't come with an AC charger, so she added their charger 
>> for $6.
>> It does, of course, come with the micro USB charging cable, just not the 
>> wall plug.
>> 
>> Later,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of david gross
>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 6:22 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: bluetooth headphones
>> 
>> 
>> can someone suggest a good bluetooth headphone that is over the ear, not in 
>> the ear, has a extended battery life, and works well with voiceover?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following

Re: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

2017-08-16 Thread Richard Turner 
Hello,
I am typing this with a LogicTech K480 keyboard.
It is on bluetooth as are the headphones.
I would say that the delay is noticeable, but it is less than half a second in 
length.
I do not have a timer that I can fire at the same time I type a letter, but 
with the keyboard setting to echo words, when I type the word "words" and hit a 
space or punctuation, it says words at the same time I am typing the next word.
I type approximately 80 to 90 words a minute.
I cannot type ahead of VoiceOver more than a very small part of a word.
So, I'm not bothered by the delay.
but that is a personal preference.
HTH,
Richard



> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:22 PM, denise Avant  wrote:
> 
> How is the lag while typing. I have been thinking of getting these.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:12 PM
> To: 'ViPone list (viphone@googlegroups.com)' 
> Subject: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> As promised, I am writing about the Backbeat Sense Bluetooth headphones from 
> Plantronics that I received yesterday.
> These are over the ear headphones that claim 18 hours of talk time, have a 
> microphone and Plantronics usual attention to detail with the spoken prompts 
> about battery, pairing, etc.
> I had a pair of Bose Mobile over the ear headphones that I really loved, but 
> they were only wired.  They died recently after 7 years of daily use.
> 
> I was looking for a stereo headphone that had Bluetooth when I came across 
> these.
> Regular Price, $179.  (That is what I paid for the Bose 7 years ago.
> B Video/Audio in New York has some for $116.  
> They come with the micro USB cable for charging, but no wall charger.  They 
> offer one, which we bought, for $6.00.
> 
> They come in a very nice box, with also a very nice carrying case.
> The selling point for me was that they can connect with two different 
> Bluetooth devices.
> The delightful surprise that I discovered when I opened the box is that they 
> also have a 3.5 to 3.5 MM cable so you can use them as wired headphones.  
> What they say about that in the documentation is that you can use them when 
> the battery dies.  So, in actuality, you can use them with three devices.
> 
> I would say the sound quality for listening is almost, if not as good as, the 
> Bose were.
> 
> They are very comfortable, and the over the head band is adjustable.
> They feel like they are made from very high quality material.  
> The 3.5 MM cable plugs into the bottom of the right ear cup.  The cable has 
> the microphone and buttons on it that work much the same as the iPhone 
> Airpods.
> They take about 3 hours to fully charge.
> I have not run them down on the battery yet.
> The microphone sounds fine.  I did a couple test calls with my wife on 
> Bluetooth and she had no trouble hearing me.
> 
> They do block out most of the surrounding sounds, so I won't be using them 
> while walking down the street.
> 
> I am quite impressed in my first day of having them.
> 
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Turner 
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 6:33 AM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: RE: bluetooth headphones
> 
> I'll let you know next week.
> My wife is getting me the new Plantronics Backbeat Sense stereo Bluetooth 
> headset.  It is over the ear, it claims 18 hours of talk, and lists for $179.
> It was on sale briefly for $79 with a code, but I missed it.
> She found them through a store called B from new York for $116 with free 
> shipping.  It doesn't come with an AC charger, so she added their charger for 
> $6.
> It does, of course, come with the micro USB charging cable, just not the wall 
> plug.
> 
> Later,
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> david gross
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 6:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: bluetooth headphones
> 
> 
> can someone suggest a good bluetooth headphone that is over the ear, not in 
> the ear, has a extended battery life, and works well with voiceover?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

2017-08-16 Thread denise Avant 
How is the lag while typing. I have been thinking of getting these.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:12 PM
To: 'ViPone list (viphone@googlegroups.com)' 
Subject: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

Greetings,

As promised, I am writing about the Backbeat Sense Bluetooth headphones from 
Plantronics that I received yesterday.
These are over the ear headphones that claim 18 hours of talk time, have a 
microphone and Plantronics usual attention to detail with the spoken prompts 
about battery, pairing, etc.
I had a pair of Bose Mobile over the ear headphones that I really loved, but 
they were only wired.  They died recently after 7 years of daily use.

I was looking for a stereo headphone that had Bluetooth when I came across 
these.
Regular Price, $179.  (That is what I paid for the Bose 7 years ago.
B Video/Audio in New York has some for $116.  
They come with the micro USB cable for charging, but no wall charger.  They 
offer one, which we bought, for $6.00.

They come in a very nice box, with also a very nice carrying case.
The selling point for me was that they can connect with two different Bluetooth 
devices.
The delightful surprise that I discovered when I opened the box is that they 
also have a 3.5 to 3.5 MM cable so you can use them as wired headphones.  What 
they say about that in the documentation is that you can use them when the 
battery dies.  So, in actuality, you can use them with three devices.

I would say the sound quality for listening is almost, if not as good as, the 
Bose were.

They are very comfortable, and the over the head band is adjustable.
They feel like they are made from very high quality material.  
The 3.5 MM cable plugs into the bottom of the right ear cup.  The cable has the 
microphone and buttons on it that work much the same as the iPhone Airpods.
They take about 3 hours to fully charge.
I have not run them down on the battery yet.
The microphone sounds fine.  I did a couple test calls with my wife on 
Bluetooth and she had no trouble hearing me.

They do block out most of the surrounding sounds, so I won't be using them 
while walking down the street.

I am quite impressed in my first day of having them.

HTH,
Richard

-Original Message-
From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 6:33 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: bluetooth headphones

I'll let you know next week.
My wife is getting me the new Plantronics Backbeat Sense stereo Bluetooth 
headset.  It is over the ear, it claims 18 hours of talk, and lists for $179.
It was on sale briefly for $79 with a code, but I missed it.
She found them through a store called B from new York for $116 with free 
shipping.  It doesn't come with an AC charger, so she added their charger for 
$6.
It does, of course, come with the micro USB charging cable, just not the wall 
plug.

Later,
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
david gross
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: bluetooth headphones


can someone suggest a good bluetooth headphone that is over the ear, not in the 
ear, has a extended battery life, and works well with voiceover?

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RE: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

2017-08-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Richard,

I had bought a pair of these a couple of years ago and really liked the sound 
and all, but the Voiceover lag on these was so bad that I ended up returning 
them. I guess if you primarily use them for listenint to music or other audio 
then that is fine, but unless they changed something I found it almost 
impossible to use them for typing anything because of the delay. I always use 
this example when people ask about bluetooth standards. These are I think 
Bluetooth 4.0 or 4.1, but just because something has a higher/newer bluetooth 
version does not necessarily mean it's better in terms of lag. I have quite a 
few Bluetooth 2.1 or 3.0 devices which were way better when it comes to lag 
than these Backbeat Sense.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 11:12 AM
To: 'ViPone list (viphone@googlegroups.com)' 
Subject: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

Greetings,

As promised, I am writing about the Backbeat Sense Bluetooth headphones from 
Plantronics that I received yesterday.
These are over the ear headphones that claim 18 hours of talk time, have a 
microphone and Plantronics usual attention to detail with the spoken prompts 
about battery, pairing, etc.
I had a pair of Bose Mobile over the ear headphones that I really loved, but 
they were only wired.  They died recently after 7 years of daily use.

I was looking for a stereo headphone that had Bluetooth when I came across 
these.
Regular Price, $179.  (That is what I paid for the Bose 7 years ago.
B Video/Audio in New York has some for $116.  
They come with the micro USB cable for charging, but no wall charger.  They 
offer one, which we bought, for $6.00.

They come in a very nice box, with also a very nice carrying case.
The selling point for me was that they can connect with two different Bluetooth 
devices.
The delightful surprise that I discovered when I opened the box is that they 
also have a 3.5 to 3.5 MM cable so you can use them as wired headphones.  What 
they say about that in the documentation is that you can use them when the 
battery dies.  So, in actuality, you can use them with three devices.

I would say the sound quality for listening is almost, if not as good as, the 
Bose were.

They are very comfortable, and the over the head band is adjustable.
They feel like they are made from very high quality material.  
The 3.5 MM cable plugs into the bottom of the right ear cup.  The cable has the 
microphone and buttons on it that work much the same as the iPhone Airpods.
They take about 3 hours to fully charge.
I have not run them down on the battery yet.
The microphone sounds fine.  I did a couple test calls with my wife on 
Bluetooth and she had no trouble hearing me.

They do block out most of the surrounding sounds, so I won't be using them 
while walking down the street.

I am quite impressed in my first day of having them.

HTH,
Richard

-Original Message-
From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 6:33 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: bluetooth headphones

I'll let you know next week.
My wife is getting me the new Plantronics Backbeat Sense stereo Bluetooth 
headset.  It is over the ear, it claims 18 hours of talk, and lists for $179.
It was on sale briefly for $79 with a code, but I missed it.
She found them through a store called B from new York for $116 with free 
shipping.  It doesn't come with an AC charger, so she added their charger for 
$6.
It does, of course, come with the micro USB charging cable, just not the wall 
plug.

Later,
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
david gross
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: bluetooth headphones


can someone suggest a good bluetooth headphone that is over the ear, not in the 
ear, has a extended battery life, and works well with voiceover?

Sent from my iPhone

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