Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
Thanks, turning the phone completely off and back on worked with automatic lock and 1 minute and it is locked. Margaret On 9/8/2022 1:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: There are times my iPhone 11 doesn't seem to lock automatically, I have it set to 1 minute, and typically a reboot fixes this. By reboot I mean turning the phone off completely and back on. I have the same issue but also very rarely when the phone doesn't start charging when I put it down on my charging pad and once again this usually goes away if I turn the phone off and back on. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:16 AM To: V iPhone list Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Richard, I tried 2 more times with different amounts of time and it didn't lock. I think Notifications and maybe Focus is my homework assignment. Smile. I was having trouble with Notifications when I tried to work with them before. At least I can do a manual lock. Margaret On 9/7/2022 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote: Margaret, Auto Lock under Display and brightness locks the phone when there is no screen activity. If you touch the screen or something is running that is causing the screen to refresh, it won't lock. Set it to five minutes, lay the phone down with nothing running and in five minutes it will lock. I have mine set to 5 minutes because it is only there in case I forget to manually lock the phone when I won't be using it for a while. Richard “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard My web site: https://www.turner42.com 礪 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:00 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Sieghard and All: I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable it. I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked when I'm not using it to save the battery. I thought powering off when it isn't being used was saving the battery. I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where I did it. I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the settings app. I found one result for lock and never and there were several time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5 minutes as an experiment. It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my home screen is still talking. I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm misunderstanding something. Could you please help me out and give the proper location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone? I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes. It's been a long day and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it" since it went silent on me almost immediately. All help is greatly appreciated. Margaret On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hello Margaret, As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with Touch Id, only the passcode will work here. Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of settings. Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id. As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never counted how often I use my p
RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
Now folks don't pay too much attention to this old Sieghard as he is getting a lot older up there in Canada and you know how the cold effect people. Also with that old ugly snoot of his it's a wonder his face ID works at all. 藍 Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2022 11:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when you turn your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone. I don't know if you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode manually. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now. When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up. My memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store instead of Apple ID. I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass code. I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct. I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some mishap I had. I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use the phone. Margaret On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: > If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you > unlock it. If not than you should be able to use touch ID. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Margaret Thomas > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM > To: V iPhone list > Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code > > Good Evening: > > The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the > original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. > > The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being > my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might > power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, > Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. > The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I > can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the > problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work > or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and > I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. > > The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the > cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying > locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" > word and I never investigated what it was good for. I turned lock to never. > I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if > someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little. > I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed > it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on. >Thanks, > > Margaret > > > On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 SoonerAnnie wrote: > > Subject: Face ID hit or miss > Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 > From: SoonerAnnie > Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Hi all, > Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set > up Face ID with no diff
RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
I've never seen this myself, but I do use some apps, like the BARD Mobile App, where you can configure it to not lock the phone while you're in the app. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 12:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code There are times my iPhone 11 doesn't seem to lock automatically, I have it set to 1 minute, and typically a reboot fixes this. By reboot I mean turning the phone off completely and back on. I have the same issue but also very rarely when the phone doesn't start charging when I put it down on my charging pad and once again this usually goes away if I turn the phone off and back on. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:16 AM To: V iPhone list Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Richard, I tried 2 more times with different amounts of time and it didn't lock. I think Notifications and maybe Focus is my homework assignment. Smile. I was having trouble with Notifications when I tried to work with them before. At least I can do a manual lock. Margaret On 9/7/2022 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote: > Margaret, > > Auto Lock under Display and brightness locks the phone when there is no > screen activity. If you touch the screen or something is running that is > causing the screen to refresh, it won't lock. > > Set it to five minutes, lay the phone down with nothing running and in five > minutes it will lock. > I have mine set to 5 minutes because it is only there in case I forget to > manually lock the phone when I won't be using it for a while. > > > > Richard > “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of > thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard > > My web site: > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. > turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C664a088fdd56426168b808da91be2d91 > %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637982543234426916%7CUnk > nown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWw > iLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=9bXTibwuTYqCvWfFm06b%2Br7k13 > sWAE1YmToijCZosDg%3Dreserved=0 > 礪 > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Margaret Thomas > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:00 PM > To: V iPhone list > Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code > > Sieghard and All: > > I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally > disable it. > > I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone > powered off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it > locked when I'm not using it to save the battery. I thought powering off > when it isn't being used was saving the battery. > > I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget > where I did it. I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in > the settings app. I found one result for lock and never and there were > several time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5 > minutes as an experiment. It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my > home screen is still talking. I don't know if I missed a save button or if > I'm misunderstanding something. Could you please help me out and give the > proper location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone? > > I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't > talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes. It's been a long > day and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I personally am > not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it" > since it went silent on me almost immediately. > > All help is greatly appreciated. > > Margaret > > On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> Hello Margaret, >> >> As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as >> backup for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off >> with Touch Id, only the passcode will work here. >> Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into >> Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off >> Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of >> settings. >> >> Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume >> if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it >> and you don't pl
Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
Thank you for confirming I was in the right place. Still no luck. I had trouble with Notifications when I tried to work with them before and maybe that's part of the problem. Margaret On 9/7/2022 3:13 PM, davidmac1...@gmail.com wrote: Open the Settings app on your iPhone. Scroll down and double tap Display & Brightness. In the Display and Brightness settings, double tap Auto-Lock. Choose the amount of time you want your screen to stay on after you last touch your iPhone. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 3:00 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Sieghard and All: I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable it. I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked when I'm not using it to save the battery. I thought powering off when it isn't being used was saving the battery. I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where I did it. I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the settings app. I found one result for lock and never and there were several time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5 minutes as an experiment. It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my home screen is still talking. I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm misunderstanding something. Could you please help me out and give the proper location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone? I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes. It's been a long day and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it" since it went silent on me almost immediately. All help is greatly appreciated. Margaret On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hello Margaret, As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with Touch Id, only the passcode will work here. Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of settings. Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id. As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never counted how often I use my phone each day, but I guess it must be at least 1 to 3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a day I'd aay probably anywhere from 40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and unlock it to do something. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Good Evening: The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of per
RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
There are times my iPhone 11 doesn't seem to lock automatically, I have it set to 1 minute, and typically a reboot fixes this. By reboot I mean turning the phone off completely and back on. I have the same issue but also very rarely when the phone doesn't start charging when I put it down on my charging pad and once again this usually goes away if I turn the phone off and back on. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:16 AM To: V iPhone list Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Richard, I tried 2 more times with different amounts of time and it didn't lock. I think Notifications and maybe Focus is my homework assignment. Smile. I was having trouble with Notifications when I tried to work with them before. At least I can do a manual lock. Margaret On 9/7/2022 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote: > Margaret, > > Auto Lock under Display and brightness locks the phone when there is no > screen activity. If you touch the screen or something is running that is > causing the screen to refresh, it won't lock. > > Set it to five minutes, lay the phone down with nothing running and in five > minutes it will lock. > I have mine set to 5 minutes because it is only there in case I forget to > manually lock the phone when I won't be using it for a while. > > > > Richard > “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of > thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > 礪 > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Margaret Thomas > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:00 PM > To: V iPhone list > Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code > > Sieghard and All: > > I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally > disable it. > > I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone > powered off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it > locked when I'm not using it to save the battery. I thought powering off > when it isn't being used was saving the battery. > > I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget > where I did it. I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in > the settings app. I found one result for lock and never and there were > several time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5 > minutes as an experiment. It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my > home screen is still talking. I don't know if I missed a save button or if > I'm misunderstanding something. Could you please help me out and give the > proper location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone? > > I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't > talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes. It's been a long > day and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I personally am > not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it" > since it went silent on me almost immediately. > > All help is greatly appreciated. > > Margaret > > On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> Hello Margaret, >> >> As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as >> backup for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off >> with Touch Id, only the passcode will work here. >> Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into >> Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off >> Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of >> settings. >> >> Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume >> if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it >> and you don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id. >> >> As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. >> There are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by >> pressing the side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone >> to lock relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked >> the more battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my >> phone and use it constantly for anything from checking the time and the >> weather to checking email, sending and receiving text messages to doing >> online banking and using a variety of home automation devices like smart >> thermostats for my home and business, I have video c
Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
Richard, I tried 2 more times with different amounts of time and it didn't lock. I think Notifications and maybe Focus is my homework assignment. Smile. I was having trouble with Notifications when I tried to work with them before. At least I can do a manual lock. Margaret On 9/7/2022 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote: Margaret, Auto Lock under Display and brightness locks the phone when there is no screen activity. If you touch the screen or something is running that is causing the screen to refresh, it won't lock. Set it to five minutes, lay the phone down with nothing running and in five minutes it will lock. I have mine set to 5 minutes because it is only there in case I forget to manually lock the phone when I won't be using it for a while. Richard “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard My web site: https://www.turner42.com 礪 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:00 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Sieghard and All: I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable it. I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked when I'm not using it to save the battery. I thought powering off when it isn't being used was saving the battery. I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where I did it. I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the settings app. I found one result for lock and never and there were several time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5 minutes as an experiment. It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my home screen is still talking. I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm misunderstanding something. Could you please help me out and give the proper location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone? I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes. It's been a long day and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it" since it went silent on me almost immediately. All help is greatly appreciated. Margaret On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hello Margaret, As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with Touch Id, only the passcode will work here. Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of settings. Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id. As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never counted how often I use my phone each day, but I guess it must be at least 1 to 3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a day I'd aay probably anywhere from 40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and unlock it to do something. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Good Evening: The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I
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Mine is for five minutes. I'm thinking maybe the five minutes is five minutes after the last time the thing talked. I haven't tried it to see am good about turning mine off. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 3:00 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Sieghard and All: I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable it. I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked when I'm not using it to save the battery. I thought powering off when it isn't being used was saving the battery. I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where I did it. I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the settings app. I found one result for lock and never and there were several time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5 minutes as an experiment. It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my home screen is still talking. I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm misunderstanding something. Could you please help me out and give the proper location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone? I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes. It's been a long day and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it" since it went silent on me almost immediately. All help is greatly appreciated. Margaret On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hello Margaret, > > As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup > for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with > Touch Id, only the passcode will work here. > Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into > Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off > Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of > settings. > > Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume > if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and > you don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id. > > As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. > There are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by > pressing the side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone > to lock relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the > more battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone > and use it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to > checking email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking > and using a variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my > home and business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my > business and have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at > home. Even if I don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an > Audible book while I am walking to or from work, at night before I go to > sleep and so on. I never counted how often I use my phone each day, but I > guess it must be at least 1 to 3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a > day I'd aay probably anywhere from 40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and > unlock it to do something. > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Margaret Thomas > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM > To: V iPhone list > Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code > > Good Evening: > > The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the > original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. > > The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being > my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might > power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, > Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. > The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I > can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the > problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work > or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and > I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. > > The
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Thanks for that explanation. All I know is that if Apple decides to offer this it will most likely be perfectly secure. In any case, as I stated before, for me Face Id is a much better option, I can use it when it's cold out and I am wearing gloves and it works whether my fingers are full of little cuts and wood glue. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 1:33 PM To: Viphone Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code FYI: Pixels use an optical sensor. Essentially, it's a camera. Samsung uses ultrasonic sensors. These are more accurate and I believe capture more data points for which to make an unlock decision. It's been the case that fingerprint sensors, especially optical ones, do have some level of false-positive recognition. For more on the various types, check out https://www.androidpolice.com/optical-capacitive-and-ultrasonic-fingerprint-readers-how-do-they-work/ Thanks. On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 1:11 PM Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: And knowing Apple I doubt they would ever have a Touch Id side button on the phone or a Touch Id sensor on the back of the phone. If they bring Touch Id back at all it would be with an under-display sensor which meets their standards and given that article I recently read about the latest Google Pixel phone which has under-display Touch Id and where the writer's friend could unlock the phone with his finger even though it wasn't even registered I wonder how good it works. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code On iPhone’s you need to have a home button. On Android devices, touch ID can be built into the power button or a sensor on the back of the phone. They can also put the touch ID under the glass. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rob Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code You cannot use touch ID with your iPhone. Your iPhone supports face ID and entering your passcode. Rob From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code hi, Anthony, thank you so much. I use a 13 pro max iPhone. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> wrote: Touch ID needs to be built into the device that you would like to use it on. It needs to be billed into the power button. Also the app that you want to use touch ID with needs to support touch ID. Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Esther Levegnale mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote: hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there was a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I hope you all have a good day. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when you turn your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone. I don't know if you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode manually. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM To: V iPhone l
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FYI: Pixels use an optical sensor. Essentially, it's a camera. Samsung uses ultrasonic sensors. These are more accurate and I believe capture more data points for which to make an unlock decision. It's been the case that fingerprint sensors, especially optical ones, do have some level of false-positive recognition. For more on the various types, check out https://www.androidpolice.com/optical-capacitive-and-ultrasonic-fingerprint-readers-how-do-they-work/ Thanks. On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 1:11 PM Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > And knowing Apple I doubt they would ever have a Touch Id side button on > the phone or a Touch Id sensor on the back of the phone. If they bring > Touch Id back at all it would be with an under-display sensor which meets > their standards and given that article I recently read about the latest > Google Pixel phone which has under-display Touch Id and where the writer's > friend could unlock the phone with his finger even though it wasn't even > registered I wonder how good it works. > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of > *Christopher Chaltain > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:10 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code > > > > On iPhone’s you need to have a home button. On Android devices, touch ID > can be built into the power button or a sensor on the back of the phone. > They can also put the touch ID under the glass. > > > > -- > > Christopher (AKA CJ) > > Chaltain at Outlook > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of > *Rob Armstrong > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:13 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code > > > > You cannot use touch ID with your iPhone. Your iPhone supports face ID > and entering your passcode. > > > > Rob > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of > *Esther Levegnale > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:47 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code > > > > hi, Anthony, thank you so much. I use a 13 pro max iPhone. Esther > > Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! > > > > On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: > > Touch ID needs to be built into the device that you would like to use it > on. It needs to be billed into the power button. Also the app that you want > to use touch ID with needs to support touch ID. > > Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! > > > > On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Esther Levegnale > wrote: > > hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if > there was a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a > lot. I hope you all have a good day. Esther > > Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! > > > > On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required > when you turn your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone > you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and > after a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, > it will then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone. > I don't know if you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. > iPhones are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut > down at all. From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and > back on if you have strange issues or of course there could be a time when > you simply run out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I > literally go weeks and sometimes months without turning my phone off and > back on and the only time I have to put in my passcode is when for some > reason Face Id isn't working a few times one attempt after another (same > goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange reason. But typically I again > often go days without having to enter my passcode manually. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Margaret Thomas > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM > To: V iPhone list > Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code > > It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now. > > When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up. My > memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the > App Store instead of Apple ID. I turn on the phone much more than I get > apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes > of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had > to use the p
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And knowing Apple I doubt they would ever have a Touch Id side button on the phone or a Touch Id sensor on the back of the phone. If they bring Touch Id back at all it would be with an under-display sensor which meets their standards and given that article I recently read about the latest Google Pixel phone which has under-display Touch Id and where the writer's friend could unlock the phone with his finger even though it wasn't even registered I wonder how good it works. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code On iPhone’s you need to have a home button. On Android devices, touch ID can be built into the power button or a sensor on the back of the phone. They can also put the touch ID under the glass. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Rob Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code You cannot use touch ID with your iPhone. Your iPhone supports face ID and entering your passcode. Rob From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code hi, Anthony, thank you so much. I use a 13 pro max iPhone. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> wrote: Touch ID needs to be built into the device that you would like to use it on. It needs to be billed into the power button. Also the app that you want to use touch ID with needs to support touch ID. Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Esther Levegnale mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote: hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there was a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I hope you all have a good day. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when you turn your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone. I don't know if you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode manually. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM To: V iPhone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now. When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up. My memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store instead of Apple ID. I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass code. I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct. I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some mishap I had. I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use the phone. Margaret On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you unlock it. If not than you should be able to use touch ID. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September
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No, there is not, iPhones without a home button use Face Id and that has not changed with the iPhone 14's which were just announced this morning. I am not saying it's impossible that Apple at some point will introduced under-display Touch Id which then would have a Touch Id sensor under a particular spot of the display, but since it wasn't included this year it would be the iPhone 15 next September at the earliest that would have it and I wouldn't hold my breath. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 7:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there was a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I hope you all have a good day. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when you turn your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone. I don't know if you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode manually. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now. When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up. My memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store instead of Apple ID. I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass code. I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct. I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some mishap I had. I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use the phone. Margaret On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you unlock it. If not than you should be able to use touch ID. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Good Evening: The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" word and I never investigated what it was good for. I turned lock to never. I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little. I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on. Thanks, Margaret On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 SoonerAnnie wrote: Subject: Face ID hit or miss
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Open the Settings app on your iPhone. Scroll down and double tap Display & Brightness. In the Display and Brightness settings, double tap Auto-Lock. Choose the amount of time you want your screen to stay on after you last touch your iPhone. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 3:00 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Sieghard and All: I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable it. I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked when I'm not using it to save the battery. I thought powering off when it isn't being used was saving the battery. I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where I did it. I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the settings app. I found one result for lock and never and there were several time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5 minutes as an experiment. It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my home screen is still talking. I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm misunderstanding something. Could you please help me out and give the proper location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone? I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes. It's been a long day and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it" since it went silent on me almost immediately. All help is greatly appreciated. Margaret On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hello Margaret, > > As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup > for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with > Touch Id, only the passcode will work here. > Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into > Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off > Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of > settings. > > Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume > if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and > you don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id. > > As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. > There are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by > pressing the side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone > to lock relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the > more battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone > and use it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to > checking email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking > and using a variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my > home and business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my > business and have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at > home. Even if I don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an > Audible book while I am walking to or from work, at night before I go to > sleep and so on. I never counted how often I use my phone each day, but I > guess it must be at least 1 to 3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a > day I'd aay probably anywhere from 40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and > unlock it to do something. > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Margaret Thomas > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM > To: V iPhone list > Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code > > Good Evening: > > The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the > original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. > > The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being > my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might > power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, > Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. > The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I > can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the > problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work > or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and > I do n
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Margaret, Auto Lock under Display and brightness locks the phone when there is no screen activity. If you touch the screen or something is running that is causing the screen to refresh, it won't lock. Set it to five minutes, lay the phone down with nothing running and in five minutes it will lock. I have mine set to 5 minutes because it is only there in case I forget to manually lock the phone when I won't be using it for a while. Richard “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard My web site: https://www.turner42.com 礪 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:00 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Sieghard and All: I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable it. I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked when I'm not using it to save the battery. I thought powering off when it isn't being used was saving the battery. I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where I did it. I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the settings app. I found one result for lock and never and there were several time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5 minutes as an experiment. It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my home screen is still talking. I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm misunderstanding something. Could you please help me out and give the proper location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone? I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes. It's been a long day and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it" since it went silent on me almost immediately. All help is greatly appreciated. Margaret On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hello Margaret, > > As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup > for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with > Touch Id, only the passcode will work here. > Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into > Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off > Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of > settings. > > Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume > if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and > you don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id. > > As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. > There are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by > pressing the side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone > to lock relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the > more battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone > and use it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to > checking email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking > and using a variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my > home and business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my > business and have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at > home. Even if I don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an > Audible book while I am walking to or from work, at night before I go to > sleep and so on. I never counted how often I use my phone each day, but I > guess it must be at least 1 to 3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a > day I'd aay probably anywhere from 40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and > unlock it to do something. > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Margaret Thomas > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM > To: V iPhone list > Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code > > Good Evening: > > The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the > original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. > > The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being > my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might > power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, > Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. >
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Sieghard and All: I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable it. I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked when I'm not using it to save the battery. I thought powering off when it isn't being used was saving the battery. I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where I did it. I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the settings app. I found one result for lock and never and there were several time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5 minutes as an experiment. It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my home screen is still talking. I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm misunderstanding something. Could you please help me out and give the proper location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone? I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes. It's been a long day and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it" since it went silent on me almost immediately. All help is greatly appreciated. Margaret On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hello Margaret, As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with Touch Id, only the passcode will work here. Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of settings. Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id. As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never counted how often I use my phone each day, but I guess it must be at least 1 to 3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a day I'd aay probably anywhere from 40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and unlock it to do something. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Good Evening: The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" word and I never investigated what it was good for. I turned lock to never. I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little. I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on. Thanks, Margaret On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 SoonerAnnie wrote: Subject: Face ID hit or
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Same here, Sieghard. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when you turn your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone. I don't know if you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode manually. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now. When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up. My memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store instead of Apple ID. I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass code. I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct. I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some mishap I had. I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use the phone. Margaret On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: > If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you > unlock it. If not than you should be able to use touch ID. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Margaret Thomas > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM > To: V iPhone list > Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code > > Good Evening: > > The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the > original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. > > The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being > my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might > power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, > Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. > The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I > can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the > problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work > or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and > I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. > > The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the > cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying > locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" > word and I never investigated what it was good for. I turned lock to never. > I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if > someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little. > I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed > it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on. >Thanks, > > Margaret > > > On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 SoonerAnnie wrote: > > Subject: Face ID hit or miss > Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 > From: SoonerAnnie > Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Hi all, > Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set > up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three > times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am > getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much
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I did not have to use my passcode, when I had touch ID< neither do I have to with Facial ID, unless for some reason, it doesn't take. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Minor Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Hi Margaret. I used to have an old iPhone with touch id. I don't think I had to enter my unlock code to get it working. I also wish touch id were on the newer phones. I found them much easier than face id. Kevin, Valerie and Jilly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Good Evening: The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" word and I never investigated what it was good for. I turned lock to never. I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little. I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on. Thanks, Margaret On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 SoonerAnnie wrote: Subject: Face ID hit or miss Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 From: SoonerAnnie Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Hi all, Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading. Sent from my iPhone -- -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7ff2deb3-6f9f-7556-5a6d-61e9701323c0%40fastmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CH0PR02MB8027FEAEC9120CBD1AFB6F35C3419%40CH0PR02MB8027.namprd02.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of th
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On iPhone’s you need to have a home button. On Android devices, touch ID can be built into the power button or a sensor on the back of the phone. They can also put the touch ID under the glass. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Rob Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code You cannot use touch ID with your iPhone. Your iPhone supports face ID and entering your passcode. Rob From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code hi, Anthony, thank you so much. I use a 13 pro max iPhone. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> wrote: Touch ID needs to be built into the device that you would like to use it on. It needs to be billed into the power button. Also the app that you want to use touch ID with needs to support touch ID. Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Esther Levegnale mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote: hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there was a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I hope you all have a good day. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when you turn your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone. I don't know if you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode manually. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM To: V iPhone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now. When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up. My memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store instead of Apple ID. I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass code. I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct. I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some mishap I had. I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use the phone. Margaret On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you unlock it. If not than you should be able to use touch ID. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM To: V iPhone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Good Evening: The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I can usually do it
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You cannot use touch ID with your iPhone. Your iPhone supports face ID and entering your passcode. Rob From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code hi, Anthony, thank you so much. I use a 13 pro max iPhone. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com> > wrote: Touch ID needs to be built into the device that you would like to use it on. It needs to be billed into the power button. Also the app that you want to use touch ID with needs to support touch ID. Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Esther Levegnale mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there was a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I hope you all have a good day. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when you turn your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone. I don't know if you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode manually. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM To: V iPhone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now. When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up. My memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store instead of Apple ID. I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass code. I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct. I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some mishap I had. I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use the phone. Margaret On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you unlock it. If not than you should be able to use touch ID. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM To: V iPhone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Good Evening: The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a &
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hi, Anthony, thank you so much. I use a 13 pro max iPhone. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! > On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: > > Touch ID needs to be built into the device that you would like to use it on. > It needs to be billed into the power button. Also the app that you want to > use touch ID with needs to support touch ID. > > Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! > >>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Esther Levegnale >>> wrote: >>> >> hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there >> was a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I >> hope you all have a good day. Esther >> >> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! >> >>>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>>> >>> You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required >>> when you turn your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone >>> you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and >>> after a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, >>> it will then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone. >>> I don't know if you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. >>> iPhones are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut >>> down at all. From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and >>> back on if you have strange issues or of course there could be a time when >>> you simply run out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I >>> literally go weeks and sometimes months without turning my phone off and >>> back on and the only time I have to put in my passcode is when for some >>> reason Face Id isn't working a few times one attempt after another (same >>> goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange reason. But typically I again >>> often go days without having to enter my passcode manually. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>> Margaret Thomas >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM >>> To: V iPhone list >>> Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code >>> >>> It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now. >>> >>> When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up. My >>> memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the >>> App Store instead of Apple ID. I turn on the phone much more than I get >>> apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes >>> of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had >>> to use the pass code. I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I >>> installed a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple >>> ID but it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct. >>> >>> I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with >>> some mishap I had. I just would prefer not to have to type it in every >>> time I use the phone. >>> >>> Margaret >>> >>>> On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >>>> If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time >>>> you unlock it. If not than you should be able to use touch ID. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>>> Margaret Thomas >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM >>>> To: V iPhone list >>>> Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code >>>> >>>> Good Evening: >>>> >>>> The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the >>>> original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. >>>> >>>> The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line >>>> being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and >>>> might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have >>>> Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the >>>> App Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when >>>> I power up. I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so >>>> typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id ins
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Touch ID needs to be built into the device that you would like to use it on. It needs to be billed into the power button. Also the app that you want to use touch ID with needs to support touch ID. Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! > On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Esther Levegnale > wrote: > > hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there > was a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I > hope you all have a good day. Esther > > Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! > >>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> >> You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required >> when you turn your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone >> you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and >> after a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it >> will then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone. >> I don't know if you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. >> iPhones are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut >> down at all. From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back >> on if you have strange issues or of course there could be a time when you >> simply run out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go >> weeks and sometimes months without turning my phone off and back on and the >> only time I have to put in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't >> working a few times one attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or >> for some other strange reason. But typically I again often go days without >> having to enter my passcode manually. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Margaret Thomas >> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM >> To: V iPhone list >> Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code >> >> It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now. >> >> When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up. My >> memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the >> App Store instead of Apple ID. I turn on the phone much more than I get >> apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes >> of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had >> to use the pass code. I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I >> installed a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID >> but it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct. >> >> I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with >> some mishap I had. I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time >> I use the phone. >> >> Margaret >> >>> On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >>> If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time >>> you unlock it. If not than you should be able to use touch ID. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>> Margaret Thomas >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM >>> To: V iPhone list >>> Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code >>> >>> Good Evening: >>> >>> The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the >>> original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. >>> >>> The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line >>> being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and >>> might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have >>> Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the >>> App Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when >>> I power up. I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so >>> typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if >>> possible. I am not in a work or school situation and my house does not >>> resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal >>> information on the cell. >>> >>> The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the >>> cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying >>> locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" >>> word and
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hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there was a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I hope you all have a good day. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! > On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required > when you turn your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone > you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after > a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will > then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone. > I don't know if you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones > are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. > From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you > have strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run > out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and > sometimes months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I > have to put in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a > few times one attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some > other strange reason. But typically I again often go days without having to > enter my passcode manually. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Margaret Thomas > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM > To: V iPhone list > Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code > > It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now. > > When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up. My > memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the > App Store instead of Apple ID. I turn on the phone much more than I get apps > and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not > being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use > the pass code. I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a > free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it > wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct. > > I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some > mishap I had. I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use > the phone. > > Margaret > >> On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >> If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you >> unlock it. If not than you should be able to use touch ID. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Margaret Thomas >> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM >> To: V iPhone list >> Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code >> >> Good Evening: >> >> The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the >> original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. >> >> The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line >> being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and >> might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple >> ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App >> Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I >> power up. I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing >> it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am >> not in a work or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand >> Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. >> >> The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the >> cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying >> locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" >> word and I never investigated what it was good for. I turned lock to never. >> I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that >> if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so >> little. I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when >> I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on. >> Thanks, >> >> Margaret >> >> >> On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 SoonerAnnie wrote: >> >> Subject: Face ID hit or miss >> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 >> From: SoonerAnnie
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Margaret You shouldn't power it off every time your done using it is meant to be on. You could've used touch id to install that free app. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:18 AM To: V iPhone list Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now. When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up. My memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store instead of Apple ID. I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass code. I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct. I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some mishap I had. I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use the phone. Margaret On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: > If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you > unlock it. If not than you should be able to use touch ID. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Margaret Thomas > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM > To: V iPhone list > Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code > > Good Evening: > > The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the > original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. > > The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being > my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might > power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, > Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. > The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I > can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the > problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work > or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and > I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. > > The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the > cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying > locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" > word and I never investigated what it was good for. I turned lock to never. > I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if > someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little. > I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed > it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on. >Thanks, > > Margaret > > > On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 SoonerAnnie wrote: > > Subject: Face ID hit or miss > Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 > From: SoonerAnnie > Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Hi all, > Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set > up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three > times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am > getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much > easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my > mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > Thanks for reading. > > Sent from my iPhone > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/37c5ea26-84f4-b51b-a50e-6f785619d021%40fastmail.com. -- The following i
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Thank you. It's normal state is powered off and I might use it 3 times a day, but don't always use it every day. When it was new and before I set locked to never, I could unlock it by pressing the home button. Is locked supposed to be so the screen can't inadvertently be changed rather than for keeping unauthorized people out, or is it a sort of sleep thing where the battery isn't being used at 100% capacity? If it is on and the battery is only slowly draining and I can press the home button and not have to do the Pass Code, it might be a solution. I think locked has something to do with inactivity, but it is only for occasional use and is not my primary phone. Any help is much appreciated. Margaret On 9/7/2022 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when you turn your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone. I don't know if you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode manually. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now. When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up. My memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store instead of Apple ID. I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass code. I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct. I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some mishap I had. I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use the phone. Margaret On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you unlock it. If not than you should be able to use touch ID. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Good Evening: The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" word and I never investigated what it was good for. I turned lock to never. I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little. I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on. Thanks, Margaret On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 SoonerAnnie wrote: Subject: Face ID hit or miss Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 From: SoonerAnnie Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Hi all, Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPho
RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
Hello Margaret, As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with Touch Id, only the passcode will work here. Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of settings. Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id. As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never counted how often I use my phone each day, but I guess it must be at least 1 to 3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a day I'd aay probably anywhere from 40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and unlock it to do something. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Good Evening: The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" word and I never investigated what it was good for. I turned lock to never. I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little. I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on. Thanks, Margaret On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 SoonerAnnie wrote: Subject: Face ID hit or miss Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 From: SoonerAnnie Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Hi all, Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading. Sent from my iPhone -- -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
You can and you better know what your phone's passcode is because if you set up Touch Id you were only able to do so after also setting up an at least 4-digit passcode. By default the iPhone now asks for a 6-digit passcode and you rather deliberately have to select the 4-digit option. If you ever power off your phone you need your passcode after it restarts, so far Apple has not budged from that requirement whether you use Touch Id or Face Id. Also, if you go to Settings > Face Id and Passcode or Touch Id and Passcode and want to make any changes, you have to enter your passcode to get into that area, you cannot open that setting with Touch Id or Face Id. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Karen Poulakos Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code I've considered that myself. However, I've had times, especially in the winter, when my hands tend to be dryer, that Touch ID doesn't always work. I'm not sure how you would be able to access your phone if for some reason Touch ID wasn't responding, unless you could enter a pass code.. Karen P -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 10:04 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Good Evening: The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" word and I never investigated what it was good for. I turned lock to never. I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little. I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on. Thanks, Margaret On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 SoonerAnnie wrote: Subject: Face ID hit or miss Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 From: SoonerAnnie Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Hi all, Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading. Sent from my iPhone -- -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7ff2deb3-6f9f-7556-5a6d-61e9701323c0%40fastmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you ca
RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when you turn your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone. I don't know if you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode manually. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now. When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up. My memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store instead of Apple ID. I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass code. I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct. I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some mishap I had. I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use the phone. Margaret On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: > If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you > unlock it. If not than you should be able to use touch ID. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Margaret Thomas > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM > To: V iPhone list > Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code > > Good Evening: > > The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the > original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. > > The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being > my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might > power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, > Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. > The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I > can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the > problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work > or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and > I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. > > The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the > cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying > locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" > word and I never investigated what it was good for. I turned lock to never. > I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if > someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little. > I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed > it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on. >Thanks, > > Margaret > > > On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 SoonerAnnie wrote: > > Subject: Face ID hit or miss > Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 > From: SoonerAnnie > Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Hi all, > Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set > up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three > times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am > getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much > easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my > mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > Thanks for reading. > > Sent from my iPhone > --
Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now. When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up. My memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store instead of Apple ID. I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass code. I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct. I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some mishap I had. I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use the phone. Margaret On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you unlock it. If not than you should be able to use touch ID. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Good Evening: The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" word and I never investigated what it was good for. I turned lock to never. I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little. I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on. Thanks, Margaret On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 SoonerAnnie wrote: Subject: Face ID hit or miss Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 From: SoonerAnnie Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Hi all, Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading. Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/37c5ea26-84f4-b51b-a50e-6f785619d021%40fastmail.com.
RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
I've considered that myself. However, I've had times, especially in the winter, when my hands tend to be dryer, that Touch ID doesn't always work. I'm not sure how you would be able to access your phone if for some reason Touch ID wasn't responding, unless you could enter a pass code.. Karen P -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 10:04 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Good Evening: The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" word and I never investigated what it was good for. I turned lock to never. I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little. I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on. Thanks, Margaret On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 SoonerAnnie wrote: Subject: Face ID hit or miss Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 From: SoonerAnnie Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Hi all, Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading. Sent from my iPhone -- -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7ff2deb3-6f9f-7556-5a6d-61e9701323c0%40fastmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d8c26d%24ebace4f0%24c306aed0%24%40poulakos.com.
RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you unlock it. If not than you should be able to use touch ID. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Good Evening: The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" word and I never investigated what it was good for. I turned lock to never. I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little. I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on. Thanks, Margaret On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 SoonerAnnie wrote: Subject: Face ID hit or miss Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 From: SoonerAnnie Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Hi all, Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading. Sent from my iPhone -- -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7ff2deb3-6f9f-7556-5a6d-61e9701323c0%40fastmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000d01d8c26d%2426967cd0%2473c37670%24%40gmail.com.
RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
I will downgrade from a 13 pro to SE 2022 most likely. I just prefer touch ID. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kevin Minor Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Hi Margaret. I used to have an old iPhone with touch id. I don't think I had to enter my unlock code to get it working. I also wish touch id were on the newer phones. I found them much easier than face id. Kevin, Valerie and Jilly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Good Evening: The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" word and I never investigated what it was good for. I turned lock to never. I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little. I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on. Thanks, Margaret On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 SoonerAnnie wrote: Subject: Face ID hit or miss Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 From: SoonerAnnie Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Hi all, Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading. Sent from my iPhone -- -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7ff2deb3-6f9f-7556-5a6d-61e9701323c0%40fastmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CH0PR02MB8027FEAEC9120CBD1AFB6F35C3419%40CH0PR02MB8027.namprd02.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if
RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
Hi Margaret. I used to have an old iPhone with touch id. I don't think I had to enter my unlock code to get it working. I also wish touch id were on the newer phones. I found them much easier than face id. Kevin, Valerie and Jilly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM To: V iPhone list Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code Good Evening: The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID. The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up with my land line being my primary phone. I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc. I have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store. The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up. I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible. I am not in a work or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell. The original post did say locked and not powered off. When I first got the cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" word and I never investigated what it was good for. I turned lock to never. I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little. I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on. Thanks, Margaret On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 SoonerAnnie wrote: Subject: Face ID hit or miss Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500 From: SoonerAnnie Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Hi all, Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading. Sent from my iPhone -- -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7ff2deb3-6f9f-7556-5a6d-61e9701323c0%40fastmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CH0PR02MB8027FEAEC9120CBD1AFB6F35C3419%40CH0PR02MB8027.namprd02.prod.outlook.com.
