RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
Thanks, Mark. Do you have to have two-factor authentication? -Original Message- From: M. Taylor [mailto:mk...@ucla.edu] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 3:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions Hello Carolyn, You only need to provide an email address and password, to sign in. You may use any of your Apple, Google, Facebook email addresses or create a new one on the fly. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions What do you do to set up account with Be my AI? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 6:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions Hi, It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want to double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're prompted to create an account the first time but once done you'll then see the options to either call a live person or make use of AI. I hope that helps. Take good care, Robin -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 5:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen. -Original Message- From: M. Taylor On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions Hello Richard and Everyone, I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here: After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the description you just posted about how the app can describe something without human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try. Did I miss something? When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d like to volunteer, share your sight. I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point. How does one activate that feature? The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for $19.95. What does this particular fee cover? All replies greatly appreciated. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt. Image description provided with Be My Eyes. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http:
RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
Hello Carolyn, You only need to provide an email address and password, to sign in. You may use any of your Apple, Google, Facebook email addresses or create a new one on the fly. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions What do you do to set up account with Be my AI? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 6:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions Hi, It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want to double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're prompted to create an account the first time but once done you'll then see the options to either call a live person or make use of AI. I hope that helps. Take good care, Robin -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 5:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen. -Original Message- From: M. Taylor On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions Hello Richard and Everyone, I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here: After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the description you just posted about how the app can describe something without human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try. Did I miss something? When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d like to volunteer, share your sight. I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point. How does one activate that feature? The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for $19.95. What does this particular fee cover? All replies greatly appreciated. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt. Image description provided with Be My Eyes. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discuss
Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
If after you select you need visual help, or whatever it says, if it doesn't prompt you to set up an account, check the bottom right corner for the settings tab and double tap. Then, follow the prompts. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ > On Dec 25, 2023, at 11:18 AM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Yes, SuperSense is an app, and it is over priced. You can get everything it > offers between free apps, Seeing AI, Be My Eyes, and Envision AI. > > > Richard, USA > “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ > > > >>> On Dec 25, 2023, at 11:09 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >> Is super sense an app that goes on an iPhone? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Malcolm Parfitt >> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:13 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions >> >> I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and >> Supersense. >> >> Envision gave me the following: >> >> Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a >> small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green >> chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A >> TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered >> around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere. >> >> >> There is no television in the room. >> >> Be My AI give me: >> >> The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a >> fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the >> mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are >> several Christmas cards and a small framed photo. >> >> In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, >> reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white >> with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted. >> >> Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms >> and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical >> object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper. >> >> The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, >> and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a >> traditional holiday feel. >> >> Image description provided with Be My Eyes. >> >> Supersense gave me: >> >> The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. >> Focusing from the top of the image downwards: >> >> At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along >> the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several >> framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a >> mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red >> face. >> >> On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, >> giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a >> beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In >> front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a >> decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part >> of the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat >> is placed in front of the fireplace. >> >> On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. >> On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and >> geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. >> >> On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden >> blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with >> the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking >> a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image
Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
Yes, SuperSense is an app, and it is over priced. You can get everything it offers between free apps, Seeing AI, Be My Eyes, and Envision AI. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ > On Dec 25, 2023, at 11:09 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Is super sense an app that goes on an iPhone? > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Malcolm Parfitt > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:13 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions > > I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and > Supersense. > > Envision gave me the following: > > Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small > snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, > one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is > mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around > the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere. > > > There is no television in the room. > > Be My AI give me: > > The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a > fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel > hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several > Christmas cards and a small framed photo. > > In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, > reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white > with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted. > > Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms > and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical > object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper. > > The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, > and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional > holiday feel. > > Image description provided with Be My Eyes. > > Supersense gave me: > > The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. > Focusing from the top of the image downwards: > > At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along > the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several > framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a > mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red > face. > > On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, > giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a > beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In > front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a > decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of > the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is > placed in front of the fireplace. > > On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. > On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and > geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. > > On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden > blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with > the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking > a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image > below. > > Malcolm Parfitt > > >On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt wrote: > > > > >Hello Richard, > >Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture > available when Smart Scan is active? > >Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your > device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense. > >Malcolm Parfitt > > >On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > > >I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved > descriptions. >I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room > with a tv on a table." >I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. > >
RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
What do you do to set up account with Be my AI? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 6:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions Hi, It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want to double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're prompted to create an account the first time but once done you'll then see the options to either call a live person or make use of AI. I hope that helps. Take good care, Robin -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 5:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen. -Original Message- From: M. Taylor On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions Hello Richard and Everyone, I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here: After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the description you just posted about how the app can describe something without human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try. Did I miss something? When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d like to volunteer, share your sight. I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point. How does one activate that feature? The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for $19.95. What does this particular fee cover? All replies greatly appreciated. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt. Image description provided with Be My Eyes. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/718663CC-5D59-47C4-8EB9-403B0CA472A6%40comcast.net?utm_medium=email_source=footer. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than postin
RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
Is super sense an app that goes on an iPhone? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense. Envision gave me the following: Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere. There is no television in the room. Be My AI give me: The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas cards and a small framed photo. In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted. Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper. The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional holiday feel. Image description provided with Be My Eyes. Supersense gave me: The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. Focusing from the top of the image downwards: At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red face. On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is placed in front of the fireplace. On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image below. Malcolm Parfitt On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt wrote: Hello Richard, Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture available when Smart Scan is active? Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense. Malcolm Parfitt On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner wrote: I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with
RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
Hi. It sounds like you are on the screen where you have to either register as a blind user or sighted volunteer. Choose the first option and either create a free account or sign in with a service such as apple or google. Once you have completed the sign up process you should be taken to the main screen. Chris Judge -Original Message- From: M. Taylor On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 6:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions Hello Richard and Everyone, I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here: After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the description you just posted about how the app can describe something without human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try. Did I miss something? When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d like to volunteer, share your sight. I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point. How does one activate that feature? The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for $19.95. What does this particular fee cover? All replies greatly appreciated. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt. Image description provided with Be My Eyes. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/718663CC-5D59-47C4-8EB9-403B0CA472A6%40comcast.net?utm_medium=email_source=footer. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00f501da35ed%24610d
RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
As others mentioned, this is just the initial setup screen. Be My Eyes has two kinds of users: those who need assistance and those who provide it. If you are blind and want to use it for assistance you tap on "I need assistance", then create an account and you are good to go. You won't ever have to do this again. -Original Message- From: M. Taylor On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 2:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions Hello Richard and Everyone, I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here: After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the description you just posted about how the app can describe something without human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try. Did I miss something? When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d like to volunteer, share your sight. I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point. How does one activate that feature? The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for $19.95. What does this particular fee cover? All replies greatly appreciated. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt. Image description provided with Be My Eyes. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/718663CC-5D59-47C4-8EB9-403B0CA472A6%40comcast.net?utm_medium=email_source=footer. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00f501da3
Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
I completely agree with you Richard, I only mentioned SuperSense’s description out of interest rather than a recommendation. I may say the same of Tap Tap See and One Step Reader! There are many apps on my iPhone that no longer deserve being there. My comparison was based on one image alone with my iPhone placed on a stand controlled with a Bluetooth keyboard. Had I taken photographs of other subjects under different lighting conditions my results may have been totally different. Malcolm Parfitt > On 23 Dec 2023, at 23:44, Robin Frost wrote: > > Hi, > It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want > to double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're > prompted to create an account the first time but once done you'll then see > the options to either call a live person or make use of AI. > I hope that helps. > Take good care, > Robin > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > llump...@austin.rr.com > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 5:47 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions > > It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen. > > > -Original Message- > From: M. Taylor On Behalf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions > > Hello Richard and Everyone, > > I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here: > > After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the > description you just posted about how the app can describe something without > human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try. > > Did I miss something? When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 > options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d > like to volunteer, share your sight. > > I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point. > > How does one activate that feature? > > The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after > exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and > how they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for > $19.95. What does this particular fee cover? > > All replies greatly appreciated. > > Mark > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM > To: ViPone list > Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions > > I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved > descriptions. > I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv > on a table." > I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. > > The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the > left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In > the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the > stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, > there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a > window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the > right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, > suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are > painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas > tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a > corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer > might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt. > > Image description provided with Be My Eyes. > > > Richard, USA > “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can b
RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
Hi, It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want to double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're prompted to create an account the first time but once done you'll then see the options to either call a live person or make use of AI. I hope that helps. Take good care, Robin -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 5:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen. -Original Message- From: M. Taylor On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions Hello Richard and Everyone, I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here: After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the description you just posted about how the app can describe something without human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try. Did I miss something? When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d like to volunteer, share your sight. I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point. How does one activate that feature? The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for $19.95. What does this particular fee cover? All replies greatly appreciated. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt. Image description provided with Be My Eyes. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/718663CC-5D59-47C4-8EB9-403B0CA472A6%40comcast.net?utm_medium=email_source=footer. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this
RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen. -Original Message- From: M. Taylor On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions Hello Richard and Everyone, I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here: After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the description you just posted about how the app can describe something without human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try. Did I miss something? When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d like to volunteer, share your sight. I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point. How does one activate that feature? The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for $19.95. What does this particular fee cover? All replies greatly appreciated. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt. Image description provided with Be My Eyes. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/718663CC-5D59-47C4-8EB9-403B0CA472A6%40comcast.net?utm_medium=email_source=footer. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00f501da35ed%24610d6500%2423282f00%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners
Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
Malcolm, that may be true that SuperSens may have done a little better job, but for free, I'll take Be My Eyes hands down. No one should buy SuperSense! Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:I would say Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 21:46, Dan wrote: So Malcolm, Which gave the most accurate description? Dan Beaver Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA On 12/23/2023 4:41 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote: I completely agree with you Richard. Knowing what I do now I would not buy Supersense now even though it is on sale. As I have a lifetime subscription it made sort of Supersense to add its findings to your excellent post. Happy holiday to one and all! Malcolm Parfitt On 23 Dec 2023, at 21:32, Richard Turner wrote: Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My Eyes. Envision is ok, but Be My Eyes excells in low lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I took of another part of our living room and when she looked at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an amazing job. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote: I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense. Envision gave me the following: Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere. There is no television in the room. Be My AI give me: The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas cards and a small framed photo. In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted. Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper. The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional holiday feel. Image description provided with Be My Eyes.
RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
Hello Richard and Everyone, I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here: After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the description you just posted about how the app can describe something without human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try. Did I miss something? When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d like to volunteer, share your sight. I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point. How does one activate that feature? The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for $19.95. What does this particular fee cover? All replies greatly appreciated. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt. Image description provided with Be My Eyes. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/718663CC-5D59-47C4-8EB9-403B0CA472A6%40comcast.net?utm_medium=email_source=footer. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00f501da35ed%24610d6500%2423282f00%24%40gmail.com.
Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
I would say Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 21:46, Dan wrote: So Malcolm, Which gave the most accurate description? Dan Beaver Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA On 12/23/2023 4:41 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote: I completely agree with you Richard. Knowing what I do now I would not buy Supersense now even though it is on sale. As I have a lifetime subscription it made sort of Supersense to add its findings to your excellent post. Happy holiday to one and all! Malcolm Parfitt On 23 Dec 2023, at 21:32, Richard Turner wrote: Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My Eyes. Envision is ok, but Be My Eyes excells in low lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I took of another part of our living room and when she looked at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an amazing job. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote: I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense. Envision gave me the following: Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere. There is no television in the room. Be My AI give me: The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas cards and a small framed photo. In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted. Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper. The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional holiday feel. Image description provided with Be My Eyes. Supersense gave me: The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. Focusing from the top of the image downwards:
Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
So Malcolm, Which gave the most accurate description? Dan Beaver Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA On 12/23/2023 4:41 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote: I completely agree with you Richard. Knowing what I do now I would not buy Supersense now even though it is on sale. As I have a lifetime subscription it made sort of Supersense to add its findings to your excellent post. Happy holiday to one and all! Malcolm Parfitt On 23 Dec 2023, at 21:32, Richard Turner wrote: Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My Eyes. Envision is ok, but Be My Eyes excells in low lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I took of another part of our living room and when she looked at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an amazing job. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote: I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense. Envision gave me the following: Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere. There is no television in the room. Be My AI give me: The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas cards and a small framed photo. In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted. Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper. The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional holiday feel. Image description provided with Be My Eyes. Supersense gave me: The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. Focusing from the top of the image downwards: At the top, there's a framed
Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
I completely agree with you Richard. Knowing what I do now I would not buy Supersense now even though it is on sale.As I have a lifetime subscription it made sort of Supersense to add its findings to your excellent post.Happy holiday to one and all!Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 21:32, Richard Turner wrote:Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My Eyes. Envision is ok, but Be My Eyes excells in low lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I took of another part of our living room and when she looked at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an amazing job. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.Envision gave me the following:Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.There is no television in the room.Be My AI give me:The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas cards and a small framed photo.In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional holiday feel.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Supersense gave me:The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. Focusing from the top of the image downwards:At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red face.On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is placed in front of the fireplace.On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image below.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:Hello Richard,Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture available when Smart Scan is active?Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner wrote:I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right
Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My Eyes. Envision is ok, but Be My Eyes excells in low lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I took of another part of our living room and when she looked at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an amazing job. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.Envision gave me the following:Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.There is no television in the room.Be My AI give me:The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas cards and a small framed photo.In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional holiday feel.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Supersense gave me:The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. Focusing from the top of the image downwards:At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red face.On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is placed in front of the fireplace.On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image below.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:Hello Richard,Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture available when Smart Scan is active?Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner wrote:I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt
Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.Envision gave me the following:Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.There is no television in the room.Be My AI give me:The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas cards and a small framed photo.In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional holiday feel.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Supersense gave me:The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. Focusing from the top of the image downwards:At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red face.On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is placed in front of the fireplace.On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image below.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:Hello Richard,Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture available when Smart Scan is active?Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner wrote:I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can
Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
Hello Richard,Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture available when Smart Scan is active?Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner wrote:I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/718663CC-5D59-47C4-8EB9-403B0CA472A6%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/87EF74D3-7D3C-4369-9409-36D6DC249FA7%40parfitt1.org.uk.
