RE: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display
Hi, Aman, Thank you very much for the excellent information that you have provided so far. I understand that there are bound to have been changes since you wrote your original instructions, but they have certainly given me a clear idea of how to go about the process. I may not have time to do any serious work on this for a few days, but I've saved your information and I'll get to it ASAP. I think it has great potential and I also plan to reassign some of the BrailleNote Apex thumb keys - it appears that this should be perfectly feasible according to your instructions. Meanwhile, if you do have a chance to provide any updates or, for example, further information on the Find command, it would be extremely useful. Thanks again for all your help and hard work, Nicky -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer Sent: 20 April 2013 15:22 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display Sorry, Nicola, I forgot to deal with your request about the find command. I'm afraid I don't have any experience with find. I do know, however, that you can assign braille keys to keyboard functions. I will look in to the find command later, as it will be useful to have that. Aman On 2013-04-19, at 5:20 AM, Nicola Sanders nicola.sand...@telenet.be wrote: Hi, Aman, I for one would certainly appreciate some instructions, if you have time to write them up. Just one question: Would this method also enable me to assign a key combination to the Find command, emulating the Bluetooth keyboard functionality, or does it only work with commands that can be executed on the touchscreen? I think I may still be on moderation as a new member, so apologies if my message doesn't happen to reach the list in a timely manner; but I couldn't resist chiming in, as using a Braille display is important to me for professional reasons. I have a BrailleNote Apex, in case it's relevant. Many thanks, Nicky -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer Sent: 18 April 2013 22:19 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display Hi, Scott. I'm not quite sure what you mean by write up code, but what you can do is modify commands for each key. That is, you can, as I said, make a braill display button perform a function, changing its original function to the one you want. I am using the button on the front of the refreshabraille to do the double tap and hold, it was a back button before, but there is already a back command, so this was redundant. Note that there are quite a few commands which are redundant on many displays. Aman On 4/18/13, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: You can write up code for commands with braille displays once your device is jailbroken? If that is true, then I need to get jailbreaking. LOL. Scott On 4/18/13, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sarah. The functionality is not available unless you jailbreak and edit the files yourself. If you want instructions on doing that, let me know and I'll try to write up a set over the weekend. I suspect, but cannot, of course, be sure, that Apple will get to this at some point, there is no problem in doing it on most displays at least, I'm not quite sure why Apple has chosen not to do it in the current releases. Aman On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display
Hi, Nicola. I will do my best to send out a description as to how this should be done soon. In the mean time, however, I did, some years ago now, write a description of how to modify the commands. This is a bit out of date now, I think, but may still be of use https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?fromgroups#!topic/viphone/5hHHgVzWEOk will find it. The command descriptor for double tap and hold is, I think, SimulateLongPress but you will probably want to check that with the keyboard file, I am relying on the organic solid state drive which, like its silicon counterpart, sometimes tends to lose information. HTH. Aman On 2013-04-19, at 5:20 AM, Nicola Sanders nicola.sand...@telenet.be wrote: Hi, Aman, I for one would certainly appreciate some instructions, if you have time to write them up. Just one question: Would this method also enable me to assign a key combination to the Find command, emulating the Bluetooth keyboard functionality, or does it only work with commands that can be executed on the touchscreen? I think I may still be on moderation as a new member, so apologies if my message doesn't happen to reach the list in a timely manner; but I couldn't resist chiming in, as using a Braille display is important to me for professional reasons. I have a BrailleNote Apex, in case it's relevant. Many thanks, Nicky -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer Sent: 18 April 2013 22:19 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display Hi, Scott. I'm not quite sure what you mean by write up code, but what you can do is modify commands for each key. That is, you can, as I said, make a braill display button perform a function, changing its original function to the one you want. I am using the button on the front of the refreshabraille to do the double tap and hold, it was a back button before, but there is already a back command, so this was redundant. Note that there are quite a few commands which are redundant on many displays. Aman On 4/18/13, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: You can write up code for commands with braille displays once your device is jailbroken? If that is true, then I need to get jailbreaking. LOL. Scott On 4/18/13, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sarah. The functionality is not available unless you jailbreak and edit the files yourself. If you want instructions on doing that, let me know and I'll try to write up a set over the weekend. I suspect, but cannot, of course, be sure, that Apple will get to this at some point, there is no problem in doing it on most displays at least, I'm not quite sure why Apple has chosen not to do it in the current releases. Aman On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received
Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display
Sorry, Nicola, I forgot to deal with your request about the find command. I'm afraid I don't have any experience with find. I do know, however, that you can assign braille keys to keyboard functions. I will look in to the find command later, as it will be useful to have that. Aman On 2013-04-19, at 5:20 AM, Nicola Sanders nicola.sand...@telenet.be wrote: Hi, Aman, I for one would certainly appreciate some instructions, if you have time to write them up. Just one question: Would this method also enable me to assign a key combination to the Find command, emulating the Bluetooth keyboard functionality, or does it only work with commands that can be executed on the touchscreen? I think I may still be on moderation as a new member, so apologies if my message doesn't happen to reach the list in a timely manner; but I couldn't resist chiming in, as using a Braille display is important to me for professional reasons. I have a BrailleNote Apex, in case it's relevant. Many thanks, Nicky -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer Sent: 18 April 2013 22:19 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display Hi, Scott. I'm not quite sure what you mean by write up code, but what you can do is modify commands for each key. That is, you can, as I said, make a braill display button perform a function, changing its original function to the one you want. I am using the button on the front of the refreshabraille to do the double tap and hold, it was a back button before, but there is already a back command, so this was redundant. Note that there are quite a few commands which are redundant on many displays. Aman On 4/18/13, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: You can write up code for commands with braille displays once your device is jailbroken? If that is true, then I need to get jailbreaking. LOL. Scott On 4/18/13, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sarah. The functionality is not available unless you jailbreak and edit the files yourself. If you want instructions on doing that, let me know and I'll try to write up a set over the weekend. I suspect, but cannot, of course, be sure, that Apple will get to this at some point, there is no problem in doing it on most displays at least, I'm not quite sure why Apple has chosen not to do it in the current releases. Aman On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google
Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display
Wow Aman, you just single handedly convinced me to Jailbreak. I don't want to clutter up the list with this, but would it be ok to contact you off list for more info on jailbreaking and braille devices? Thanks! Scott On 4/18/13, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Scott. I'm not quite sure what you mean by write up code, but what you can do is modify commands for each key. That is, you can, as I said, make a braill display button perform a function, changing its original function to the one you want. I am using the button on the front of the refreshabraille to do the double tap and hold, it was a back button before, but there is already a back command, so this was redundant. Note that there are quite a few commands which are redundant on many displays. Aman On 4/18/13, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: You can write up code for commands with braille displays once your device is jailbroken? If that is true, then I need to get jailbreaking. LOL. Scott On 4/18/13, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sarah. The functionality is not available unless you jailbreak and edit the files yourself. If you want instructions on doing that, let me know and I'll try to write up a set over the weekend. I suspect, but cannot, of course, be sure, that Apple will get to this at some point, there is no problem in doing it on most displays at least, I'm not quite sure why Apple has chosen not to do it in the current releases. Aman On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
RE: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display
Hi, Aman, I for one would certainly appreciate some instructions, if you have time to write them up. Just one question: Would this method also enable me to assign a key combination to the Find command, emulating the Bluetooth keyboard functionality, or does it only work with commands that can be executed on the touchscreen? I think I may still be on moderation as a new member, so apologies if my message doesn't happen to reach the list in a timely manner; but I couldn't resist chiming in, as using a Braille display is important to me for professional reasons. I have a BrailleNote Apex, in case it's relevant. Many thanks, Nicky -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer Sent: 18 April 2013 22:19 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display Hi, Scott. I'm not quite sure what you mean by write up code, but what you can do is modify commands for each key. That is, you can, as I said, make a braill display button perform a function, changing its original function to the one you want. I am using the button on the front of the refreshabraille to do the double tap and hold, it was a back button before, but there is already a back command, so this was redundant. Note that there are quite a few commands which are redundant on many displays. Aman On 4/18/13, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: You can write up code for commands with braille displays once your device is jailbroken? If that is true, then I need to get jailbreaking. LOL. Scott On 4/18/13, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sarah. The functionality is not available unless you jailbreak and edit the files yourself. If you want instructions on doing that, let me know and I'll try to write up a set over the weekend. I suspect, but cannot, of course, be sure, that Apple will get to this at some point, there is no problem in doing it on most displays at least, I'm not quite sure why Apple has chosen not to do it in the current releases. Aman On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display
Good morning, Sarah. Sadly, the answer to your question is a no. Clearly, they can make a keyboard equivalent, so I'm not quite sure why they have yet to create a braille display keyboard equivalent. Perhaps in iOS 7? LOL. Actually, I think Apple has a bit more of a serious issue to work on in that they need to fix the way VoiceOver no longer handles headings properly, so this may get put on the back burner for awhile. Maybe, and this is a crazy idea I have, they could fix both. LOL. Cheers from the big Apple, Scott On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display
Hi Scott, Fix both? What a concept! LOL! I suspected as much, but thanks for verifying. Sarah -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Davert Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display Good morning, Sarah. Sadly, the answer to your question is a no. Clearly, they can make a keyboard equivalent, so I'm not quite sure why they have yet to create a braille display keyboard equivalent. Perhaps in iOS 7? LOL. Actually, I think Apple has a bit more of a serious issue to work on in that they need to fix the way VoiceOver no longer handles headings properly, so this may get put on the back burner for awhile. Maybe, and this is a crazy idea I have, they could fix both. LOL. Cheers from the big Apple, Scott On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display
Hi Sarah, the Find command is also missing in Braille keyboard VoiceOver driver. I mean the command Control-Option-f. Mario. At 15:07 18/04/2013, Sarah Cranston wrote: Hi Scott, Fix both? What a concept! LOL! I suspected as much, but thanks for verifying. Sarah -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Davert Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display Good morning, Sarah. Sadly, the answer to your question is a no. Clearly, they can make a keyboard equivalent, so I'm not quite sure why they have yet to create a braille display keyboard equivalent. Perhaps in iOS 7? LOL. Actually, I think Apple has a bit more of a serious issue to work on in that they need to fix the way VoiceOver no longer handles headings properly, so this may get put on the back burner for awhile. Maybe, and this is a crazy idea I have, they could fix both. LOL. Cheers from the big Apple, Scott On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. CINQUE PER MILLE A te non costa nulla, per noi è un incoraggiamento a sviluppare i progetti e le attività per le persone non vedenti e ipovedenti Codice fiscale 0034 5340 376 Mario Barbuto Direttore Istituto F.Cavazza Via Castiglione n.71 - 40124 Bologna BO Italia Voice +39 051 332090 - Fax +39 051 332609 www.cavazza.it - www.radiooltre.it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display
Hi, Sarah. The functionality is not available unless you jailbreak and edit the files yourself. If you want instructions on doing that, let me know and I'll try to write up a set over the weekend. I suspect, but cannot, of course, be sure, that Apple will get to this at some point, there is no problem in doing it on most displays at least, I'm not quite sure why Apple has chosen not to do it in the current releases. Aman On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display
You can write up code for commands with braille displays once your device is jailbroken? If that is true, then I need to get jailbreaking. LOL. Scott On 4/18/13, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sarah. The functionality is not available unless you jailbreak and edit the files yourself. If you want instructions on doing that, let me know and I'll try to write up a set over the weekend. I suspect, but cannot, of course, be sure, that Apple will get to this at some point, there is no problem in doing it on most displays at least, I'm not quite sure why Apple has chosen not to do it in the current releases. Aman On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display
I did jailbreak my phone once, but it appeared to be less stable and the status bar reported that it was in safe mode, even after a few reboots. I don't know if this is normal behavior for a jailbroken phone, but I just felt safer putting it back in jail. Having said that, I'm considering jailbreaking again when I learn more about what to expect from a jailbroken phone and what the advantages are. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Davert Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display You can write up code for commands with braille displays once your device is jailbroken? If that is true, then I need to get jailbreaking. LOL. Scott On 4/18/13, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sarah. The functionality is not available unless you jailbreak and edit the files yourself. If you want instructions on doing that, let me know and I'll try to write up a set over the weekend. I suspect, but cannot, of course, be sure, that Apple will get to this at some point, there is no problem in doing it on most displays at least, I'm not quite sure why Apple has chosen not to do it in the current releases. Aman On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display
Hi, Scott. I'm not quite sure what you mean by write up code, but what you can do is modify commands for each key. That is, you can, as I said, make a braill display button perform a function, changing its original function to the one you want. I am using the button on the front of the refreshabraille to do the double tap and hold, it was a back button before, but there is already a back command, so this was redundant. Note that there are quite a few commands which are redundant on many displays. Aman On 4/18/13, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: You can write up code for commands with braille displays once your device is jailbroken? If that is true, then I need to get jailbreaking. LOL. Scott On 4/18/13, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sarah. The functionality is not available unless you jailbreak and edit the files yourself. If you want instructions on doing that, let me know and I'll try to write up a set over the weekend. I suspect, but cannot, of course, be sure, that Apple will get to this at some point, there is no problem in doing it on most displays at least, I'm not quite sure why Apple has chosen not to do it in the current releases. Aman On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
