RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If I do a triple tap during the day all I get is minutes and I can reproduce 
this over and over.
Just now, it’s 11:45 PM so well past the start of my 10:30 PM sleep focus, a 
double tap once again does nothing and the triple tap consistently gives me 
hours and minutes in haptic time.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 11:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple
watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Hi,

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.
Here is what I discovered:

I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
“Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”.
According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple 
Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.>


Best regards,
Sieghard
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RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

[Christopher Chaltain]

I also have an SE. I wouldn't think this would make any difference, but maybe 
this plays into it somehow.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2


On my Apple Watch SE I have never been able to use taptic time using 1 finger 
double taps.  I have always had to use the 3 and 4 taps.



I have also turned VO off and tried the 2 finger tap and hold and I have never 
gotten that to work either.  Poor sighted folks. :)



Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/16/2023 2:29 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple
watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Hi,

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.
Here is what I discovered:

I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
"Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always".
According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple 
Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.>


Best regards,
Sieghard
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Re: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

[Dan]

  
  
On my Apple Watch SE I have never been
able to use taptic time using 1 finger double taps.  I have
always had to use the 3 and 4 taps.

  
I have also turned VO off and tried the 2
finger tap and hold and I have never gotten that to work
either.  Poor sighted folks. :)

  
Dan Beaver 

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/16/2023 2:29 AM, Christopher
  Chaltain wrote:


  
  
Interesting. I’m not sure anyone
other than myself has said they use three and four taps for
haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep
mode on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere
that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set
to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked
this way through multiple
  
watchOS updates. I’ll be interested
to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have
something that works pretty reliably for me.
 

  --
  Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
  Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

  
From:
viphone@googlegroups.com

On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2
  

 
Hi,
 
According to Apple, Voiceover users can use
  the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple
  Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and
  minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want
  minutes indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch
  screen is off/asleep.
 
In a recent discussion it seems many people
  say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3
  times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes.
 
I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm
  that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I
  discovered the following which probably applies also to my
  series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have
  the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it
  comes to selling stuff.
Here is what I discovered:
 
I have a daily “sleep” focus set which
  starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g.
  the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing
  except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts
  hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just
  the minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM
  and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the
  double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the
  triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep
  focus is active it will give me hours and minutes.
 
I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message
  regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure
  until they reply.
 
What I don’t understand is that why we
  can’t use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic
  time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available
  to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you
  said “Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of
  “Always”.
According to the article, if you don’t use
  Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment
  to get haptic time.
 
Tell time with haptic feedback on
Apple Watch - Apple Support
 
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
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RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

[Christopher Chaltain]

Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple
watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Hi,

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.
Here is what I discovered:

I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
"Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always".
According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple 
Support


Best regards,
Sieghard
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