Re: Moderator note - Congratulations and list etiquette and opinions

2013-11-21 Thread Anthony Vece
Hey Wayne;

She keeps me in line also.

And, that's a challenge.

Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!

> On Nov 17, 2013, at 1:27 PM, "Wayne gmail "  wrote:
> 
> Very well said Cara.  Your patient and cheerful approach to moderating this 
> list has been remarkable.  Even when it is necessary to reign us in, you do 
> it with a gentle spirit and a smile.
>   I would also add that your co-moderater Raul also does an excellent job at 
> herding cats here as well.
>Please continue to remind us of civility from time to time.  My own nature 
> tends  toward the acid and sharp even when I think I am being funny.  It is 
> good to stop and remember that my words should be served up with the clear 
> understanding that I may have to eat them someday.
>  
> Regards,
> Wayne
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cara Quinn
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Moderator note - Congratulations and list etiquette and opinions
>  
> HI All,
>  
> when I started this list just before the first accessible iPHone came out, my 
> original plan was to have a non-moderated list. I feel that people are adults 
> and can treat each other with the respect and dignity they deserve.
>  
> i still believe this. Though it has become necessary over the years to 
> moderate this list, I still do feel that people here can treat each other 
> with respect and dignity.
>  
> So, as list owner and moderator, I am simply reminding all of us of our basic 
> human responsibilities to let each other voice our opinions, whether or not 
> we agree with them.
>  
> This means not calling people names such as whiners or saying they are 
> bitching and moaning. because quite honestly, when you call others names 
> guess what? You are complaining and whining and quite frankly bitching and 
> moaning! lol! Know what I mean?
>  
> We're all capable of this and it just does not work in a list situation such 
> as this one.
>  
> also, as a quick note on four letter words and colorful language. Since there 
> are members here from all over the world and from diverse religious and moral 
> backgrounds, words like the B word above and all of the other colorful types 
> of vocabulary are not welcome here.
>  
> Personally they don't bother me a bit (within reason) but I am asking us to 
> simply again, be aware of others here. If you need more clarification just 
> ask and I'll be happy to detail this.
>  
> Before I go on, let me just stop and also congratulate you all for actually 
> doing a wonderful job to maintain a great amount of peace and civility. Many 
> lists might have degenerated in to flame wars over what we all have been 
> discussing and passing back and forth here over the last few weeks. So please 
> feel free to give yourselves a hand if you wish! :) I'm serious. With a list 
> this size, it's no small feat to manage intense discussions such as what we 
> are lucky enough to have here.
>  
> the fact that we can keep these threads going in a reasonably civil way is 
> seriously cool and mature of all of us. So trust me when I say I thank you 
> for it.
>  
> It definitely makes life easier for Raul and myself.
>  
> So let me just encourage us to just be aware to take a second when responding 
> to people whose opinions really get to us and just remember the kind of cool 
> and intelligent venue for discussion we have here. Just treat each other with 
> respect and dignity as you would want for yourselves and we'll do fine.
>  
> Thanks so much to you all for reading this message and please do keep up the 
> great informative and lively discussions that make this list what it is.
>  
> have a great weekend and talk with y'all soon!
>  
> Smiles,
>  
> Cara :)
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RE: Moderator note - Congratulations and list etiquette and opinions

2013-11-17 Thread Wayne gmail
Very well said Cara.  Your patient and cheerful approach to moderating this
list has been remarkable.  Even when it is necessary to reign us in, you do
it with a gentle spirit and a smile.

  I would also add that your co-moderater Raul also does an excellent job at
herding cats here as well.

   Please continue to remind us of civility from time to time.  My own
nature tends  toward the acid and sharp even when I think I am being funny.
It is good to stop and remember that my words should be served up with the
clear understanding that I may have to eat them someday.

 

Regards,

Wayne

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Moderator note - Congratulations and list etiquette and opinions

 

HI All,

 

when I started this list just before the first accessible iPHone came out,
my original plan was to have a non-moderated list. I feel that people are
adults and can treat each other with the respect and dignity they deserve.

 

i still believe this. Though it has become necessary over the years to
moderate this list, I still do feel that people here can treat each other
with respect and dignity.

 

So, as list owner and moderator, I am simply reminding all of us of our
basic human responsibilities to let each other voice our opinions, whether
or not we agree with them.

 

This means not calling people names such as whiners or saying they are
bitching and moaning. because quite honestly, when you call others names
guess what? You are complaining and whining and quite frankly bitching and
moaning! lol! Know what I mean?

 

We're all capable of this and it just does not work in a list situation such
as this one.

 

also, as a quick note on four letter words and colorful language. Since
there are members here from all over the world and from diverse religious
and moral backgrounds, words like the B word above and all of the other
colorful types of vocabulary are not welcome here.

 

Personally they don't bother me a bit (within reason) but I am asking us to
simply again, be aware of others here. If you need more clarification just
ask and I'll be happy to detail this.

 

Before I go on, let me just stop and also congratulate you all for actually
doing a wonderful job to maintain a great amount of peace and civility. Many
lists might have degenerated in to flame wars over what we all have been
discussing and passing back and forth here over the last few weeks. So
please feel free to give yourselves a hand if you wish! :) I'm serious. With
a list this size, it's no small feat to manage intense discussions such as
what we are lucky enough to have here.

 

the fact that we can keep these threads going in a reasonably civil way is
seriously cool and mature of all of us. So trust me when I say I thank you
for it.

 

It definitely makes life easier for Raul and myself.

 

So let me just encourage us to just be aware to take a second when
responding to people whose opinions really get to us and just remember the
kind of cool and intelligent venue for discussion we have here. Just treat
each other with respect and dignity as you would want for yourselves and
we'll do fine.

 

Thanks so much to you all for reading this message and please do keep up the
great informative and lively discussions that make this list what it is.

 

have a great weekend and talk with y'all soon!

 

Smiles,

 

Cara :)

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http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

 

Follow me on Twitter!

 

https://twitter.com/ModelCara

 

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Re: Moderator note - Congratulations and list etiquette and opinions

2013-11-16 Thread Alan Paganelli
I joined this list to share with others.  I found for the most part the people 
to be helpful and friendly.  That however was overshadowed by the self 
appointed list cops and know it alls. On the other hand, the list owner is such 
a likable person who really gives it her all to make this a fun experience and 
for the most part very helpful.  If it weren't for her great attitude and 
smiling personality I probably wouldn't have stuck around this long.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Fred Olver 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 3:35 AM
  Subject: Re: Moderator note - Congratulations and list etiquette and opinions


  I just love it when my "not mother" talks down to me.
- Original Message - 
From: Cara Quinn 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:53 AM
Subject: Moderator note - Congratulations and list etiquette and opinions


HI All, 


when I started this list just before the first accessible iPHone came out, 
my original plan was to have a non-moderated list. I feel that people are 
adults and can treat each other with the respect and dignity they deserve.


i still believe this. Though it has become necessary over the years to 
moderate this list, I still do feel that people here can treat each other with 
respect and dignity.


So, as list owner and moderator, I am simply reminding all of us of our 
basic human responsibilities to let each other voice our opinions, whether or 
not we agree with them.


This means not calling people names such as whiners or saying they are 
bitching and moaning. because quite honestly, when you call others names guess 
what? You are complaining and whining and quite frankly bitching and moaning! 
lol! Know what I mean?


We're all capable of this and it just does not work in a list situation 
such as this one.


also, as a quick note on four letter words and colorful language. Since 
there are members here from all over the world and from diverse religious and 
moral backgrounds, words like the B word above and all of the other colorful 
types of vocabulary are not welcome here.


Personally they don't bother me a bit (within reason) but I am asking us to 
simply again, be aware of others here. If you need more clarification just ask 
and I'll be happy to detail this.


Before I go on, let me just stop and also congratulate you all for actually 
doing a wonderful job to maintain a great amount of peace and civility. Many 
lists might have degenerated in to flame wars over what we all have been 
discussing and passing back and forth here over the last few weeks. So please 
feel free to give yourselves a hand if you wish! :) I'm serious. With a list 
this size, it's no small feat to manage intense discussions such as what we are 
lucky enough to have here.


the fact that we can keep these threads going in a reasonably civil way is 
seriously cool and mature of all of us. So trust me when I say I thank you for 
it.


It definitely makes life easier for Raul and myself.


So let me just encourage us to just be aware to take a second when 
responding to people whose opinions really get to us and just remember the kind 
of cool and intelligent venue for discussion we have here. Just treat each 
other with respect and dignity as you would want for yourselves and we'll do 
fine.


Thanks so much to you all for reading this message and please do keep up 
the great informative and lively discussions that make this list what it is.


have a great weekend and talk with y'all soon!


Smiles,


Cara :)

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http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn


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Re: Moderator note - Congratulations and list etiquette and opinions

2013-11-16 Thread Cara Quinn
Lol! Fred, my not son, wanna leave? YOu know where the door is! lol!

Sorry, just had to.

Fred, come on, chill! I wasn't talking down. I meant every word I said, and you 
know it. So there!…

have an awesome weekend!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Nov 16, 2013, at 3:35 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:

I just love it when my "not mother" talks down to me.
- Original Message -
From: Cara Quinn
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:53 AM
Subject: Moderator note - Congratulations and list etiquette and opinions

HI All,

when I started this list just before the first accessible iPHone came out, my 
original plan was to have a non-moderated list. I feel that people are adults 
and can treat each other with the respect and dignity they deserve.

i still believe this. Though it has become necessary over the years to moderate 
this list, I still do feel that people here can treat each other with respect 
and dignity.

So, as list owner and moderator, I am simply reminding all of us of our basic 
human responsibilities to let each other voice our opinions, whether or not we 
agree with them.

This means not calling people names such as whiners or saying they are bitching 
and moaning. because quite honestly, when you call others names guess what? You 
are complaining and whining and quite frankly bitching and moaning! lol! Know 
what I mean?

We're all capable of this and it just does not work in a list situation such as 
this one.

also, as a quick note on four letter words and colorful language. Since there 
are members here from all over the world and from diverse religious and moral 
backgrounds, words like the B word above and all of the other colorful types of 
vocabulary are not welcome here.

Personally they don't bother me a bit (within reason) but I am asking us to 
simply again, be aware of others here. If you need more clarification just ask 
and I'll be happy to detail this.

Before I go on, let me just stop and also congratulate you all foractually 
doing a wonderful job to maintain a great amount of peace and civility. Many 
lists might have degenerated in to flame wars over what we all have been 
discussing and passing back and forth here over the last few weeks. So please 
feel free to give yourselves a hand if you wish! :) I'm serious. With a list 
this size, it's no small feat to manage intense discussions such as what we are 
lucky enough to have here.

the fact that we can keep these threads going in a reasonably civil way is 
seriously cool and mature of all of us. So trust me when I say I thank you for 
it.

It definitely makes life easier for Raul and myself.

So let me just encourage us to just be aware to take a second when responding 
to people whose opinions really get to us and just remember the kind of cool 
and intelligent venue for discussion we have here. Just treat each other with 
respect and dignity as you would want for yourselves and we'll do fine.

Thanks so much to you all for reading this message and please do keep up the 
great informative and lively discussions that make this list what it is.

have a great weekend and talk with y'all soon!

Smiles,

Cara :)
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Re: Moderator note - Congratulations and list etiquette and opinions

2013-11-16 Thread Fred Olver
I just love it when my "not mother" talks down to me.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cara Quinn 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:53 AM
  Subject: Moderator note - Congratulations and list etiquette and opinions


  HI All,


  when I started this list just before the first accessible iPHone came out, my 
original plan was to have a non-moderated list. I feel that people are adults 
and can treat each other with the respect and dignity they deserve.


  i still believe this. Though it has become necessary over the years to 
moderate this list, I still do feel that people here can treat each other with 
respect and dignity.


  So, as list owner and moderator, I am simply reminding all of us of our basic 
human responsibilities to let each other voice our opinions, whether or not we 
agree with them.


  This means not calling people names such as whiners or saying they are 
bitching and moaning. because quite honestly, when you call others names guess 
what? You are complaining and whining and quite frankly bitching and moaning! 
lol! Know what I mean?


  We're all capable of this and it just does not work in a list situation such 
as this one.


  also, as a quick note on four letter words and colorful language. Since there 
are members here from all over the world and from diverse religious and moral 
backgrounds, words like the B word above and all of the other colorful types of 
vocabulary are not welcome here.


  Personally they don't bother me a bit (within reason) but I am asking us to 
simply again, be aware of others here. If you need more clarification just ask 
and I'll be happy to detail this.


  Before I go on, let me just stop and also congratulate you all for actually 
doing a wonderful job to maintain a great amount of peace and civility. Many 
lists might have degenerated in to flame wars over what we all have been 
discussing and passing back and forth here over the last few weeks. So please 
feel free to give yourselves a hand if you wish! :) I'm serious. With a list 
this size, it's no small feat to manage intense discussions such as what we are 
lucky enough to have here.


  the fact that we can keep these threads going in a reasonably civil way is 
seriously cool and mature of all of us. So trust me when I say I thank you for 
it.


  It definitely makes life easier for Raul and myself.


  So let me just encourage us to just be aware to take a second when responding 
to people whose opinions really get to us and just remember the kind of cool 
and intelligent venue for discussion we have here. Just treat each other with 
respect and dignity as you would want for yourselves and we'll do fine.


  Thanks so much to you all for reading this message and please do keep up the 
great informative and lively discussions that make this list what it is.


  have a great weekend and talk with y'all soon!


  Smiles,


  Cara :)

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Re: Moderator note - Congratulations and list etiquette and opinions

2013-11-16 Thread eric oyen
Kara,
its been pretty sedate around here compared to a few other lists of late.

I have learned 1 thing: 2 subjects best to avoid, politics and religion. Both 
of these are hot potato topics almost guaranteed to enflame tempers and 
polarize opinions.

Mostly, I do a lot of reading and some technical discussion (ham radio, Linux, 
OS X, blind bicycling and some others). On that last one, I am one of a few 
breed of totally blind bicyclists who can ride solo (at least out in the 
countryside). I wouldn't recommend doing so in town (all those crazy drivers 
and their multi ton bullets).

Anyway, thats basically it from me.

-eric

On Nov 16, 2013, at 3:53 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:

> HI All,
> 
> when I started this list just before the first accessible iPHone came out, my 
> original plan was to have a non-moderated list. I feel that people are adults 
> and can treat each other with the respect and dignity they deserve.
> 
> i still believe this. Though it has become necessary over the years to 
> moderate this list, I still do feel that people here can treat each other 
> with respect and dignity.
> 
> So, as list owner and moderator, I am simply reminding all of us of our basic 
> human responsibilities to let each other voice our opinions, whether or not 
> we agree with them.
> 
> This means not calling people names such as whiners or saying they are 
> bitching and moaning. because quite honestly, when you call others names 
> guess what? You are complaining and whining and quite frankly bitching and 
> moaning! lol! Know what I mean?
> 
> We're all capable of this and it just does not work in a list situation such 
> as this one.
> 
> also, as a quick note on four letter words and colorful language. Since there 
> are members here from all over the world and from diverse religious and moral 
> backgrounds, words like the B word above and all of the other colorful types 
> of vocabulary are not welcome here.
> 
> Personally they don't bother me a bit (within reason) but I am asking us to 
> simply again, be aware of others here. If you need more clarification just 
> ask and I'll be happy to detail this.
> 
> Before I go on, let me just stop and also congratulate you all for actually 
> doing a wonderful job to maintain a great amount of peace and civility. Many 
> lists might have degenerated in to flame wars over what we all have been 
> discussing and passing back and forth here over the last few weeks. So please 
> feel free to give yourselves a hand if you wish! :) I'm serious. With a list 
> this size, it's no small feat to manage intense discussions such as what we 
> are lucky enough to have here.
> 
> the fact that we can keep these threads going in a reasonably civil way is 
> seriously cool and mature of all of us. So trust me when I say I thank you 
> for it.
> 
> It definitely makes life easier for Raul and myself.
> 
> So let me just encourage us to just be aware to take a second when responding 
> to people whose opinions really get to us and just remember the kind of cool 
> and intelligent venue for discussion we have here. Just treat each other with 
> respect and dignity as you would want for yourselves and we'll do fine.
> 
> Thanks so much to you all for reading this message and please do keep up the 
> great informative and lively discussions that make this list what it is.
> 
> have a great weekend and talk with y'all soon!
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
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> ---
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> 
> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
> 
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Re: Moderator note - Congratulations and list etiquette and opinions

2013-11-16 Thread Les Kriegler
To add one comment to Cara's post, ignoring bothersome messages can be helpful. 
 Given the high volume on this list, I've taken to not reading messages from 
people who I feel are inclined to complain a good deal of the time.  No labels 
here, just a fact, no what I mean?

Les
On Nov 16, 2013, at 5:53 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:

> HI All,
> 
> when I started this list just before the first accessible iPHone came out, my 
> original plan was to have a non-moderated list. I feel that people are adults 
> and can treat each other with the respect and dignity they deserve.
> 
> i still believe this. Though it has become necessary over the years to 
> moderate this list, I still do feel that people here can treat each other 
> with respect and dignity.
> 
> So, as list owner and moderator, I am simply reminding all of us of our basic 
> human responsibilities to let each other voice our opinions, whether or not 
> we agree with them.
> 
> This means not calling people names such as whiners or saying they are 
> bitching and moaning. because quite honestly, when you call others names 
> guess what? You are complaining and whining and quite frankly bitching and 
> moaning! lol! Know what I mean?
> 
> We're all capable of this and it just does not work in a list situation such 
> as this one.
> 
> also, as a quick note on four letter words and colorful language. Since there 
> are members here from all over the world and from diverse religious and moral 
> backgrounds, words like the B word above and all of the other colorful types 
> of vocabulary are not welcome here.
> 
> Personally they don't bother me a bit (within reason) but I am asking us to 
> simply again, be aware of others here. If you need more clarification just 
> ask and I'll be happy to detail this.
> 
> Before I go on, let me just stop and also congratulate you all for actually 
> doing a wonderful job to maintain a great amount of peace and civility. Many 
> lists might have degenerated in to flame wars over what we all have been 
> discussing and passing back and forth here over the last few weeks. So please 
> feel free to give yourselves a hand if you wish! :) I'm serious. With a list 
> this size, it's no small feat to manage intense discussions such as what we 
> are lucky enough to have here.
> 
> the fact that we can keep these threads going in a reasonably civil way is 
> seriously cool and mature of all of us. So trust me when I say I thank you 
> for it.
> 
> It definitely makes life easier for Raul and myself.
> 
> So let me just encourage us to just be aware to take a second when responding 
> to people whose opinions really get to us and just remember the kind of cool 
> and intelligent venue for discussion we have here. Just treat each other with 
> respect and dignity as you would want for yourselves and we'll do fine.
> 
> Thanks so much to you all for reading this message and please do keep up the 
> great informative and lively discussions that make this list what it is.
> 
> have a great weekend and talk with y'all soon!
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
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