RE: Sonos speakers and iPhone.

2017-06-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Mike,

I know the Sonos Connect which is more like a traditional amplifier where you 
hook up speakers with speaker wire has 110 Watts (2 * 55 Watts) of Class D 
amplification.
I don't think Sonos is providing this information for the Play 1, Play 3 and 
Play 5.
Keep in mind that these are not bluetooth speakers, you don't actually play 
something on you riPhone and send it to these speakers unless you had an 
Airport Express connected to one of the players which has an input hence 
allowing you to use Airplay.
I can tell you for sure that especially a Play 5 goes as loud as you would want 
it to go and they do sound great and if you were to set up a pair of Play 5 as 
a stereo pair then volume is simply not an issue unless your living room is 
1,000 square feet or larger. I can only recommend these, there are places where 
Sonos is sold and where you could go to listen to it or you could simply order 
any of the players directly from Sonos without risk as they offer a very 
generous 45-day return policy, no questions asked, just make sure you unpack it 
carefully, keep all the packing material and take notes or make an audio 
recording as you unpack it so you know how to put it back properly. I think 
they even pay the return shipping.
Also remember that these are not battery operated speakers, they are wireless 
in that they get their music via your WiFi network, but they do need to be 
plugged into a wall outlet.
I used to be very much an audio file and at one point did have money from a 
settlement which I partly used to buy a $30,000 stereo system and those were 
1995/1996 Dollars. I still have that system, but replaced the $2,500 Sonic 
Frontiers CD Transport with a $299 Sonos Connect and it sounds great. Of course 
I still run the digital signal from the Coax Digital output on the Sonos 
through a Sonic Frontiers tube DA converter, a high-end electronic corssover 
and then to a Sonic Frontiers Power 2 hybrid tube/transistor amp and from there 
to a set of custom built satellites and also to a Bryston 4NRB power amp which 
drives a pair of custom built transmission line 12 inch subwovers. 
I could now spend $1,700 and buy a set of Sonos Play 5 and a Sonos Sub and be 
extremely happy with that sound, the Play 5 sounds great, a set sounds better 
and add the $700 Sonos Wireless Sub and you have an outstanding music system.
Does it sound as good as my system downstairs? No, of course not, but my system 
downstairs which cost 18 times what this setup costs does also not sound 18 
times better and of course spending $30,000 is not what most people (including 
me today) could spend.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos speakers and iPhone.

Hi Seigard, I really would be interested in just how loud, and how the sound 
quality, is of these Sonos speakers really are. I don't mind spending good 
money on perfectly sounding loud Bluetooth speakers.
I've just recently purchased a "200 watts" Bluetooth speaker. Only to find out 
that the "200 watts" of today, is nowhere near the "200 watts" of yesteryear.
Talk about making you feel like an old man!

So here's my question:
What is the for real wattage of any of these Sonos Bluetooth speakers? I would 
plunk down good money for a BT speaker that would shake you out of your 
underwears!
But just show me that speaker and I'd buy it hands down.

Thanks much, and curiously awaiting a response!.Mike

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos speakers and iPhone.

Agree with Robin, accessibility of the iPhone app is fantastic and complete, 
sound quality is awesome and I have not yet seen another speaker which supports 
this many online sources both free and paid, I think Sonos supports over 30 
services including Tune In Radio, iHeart Radio, Slacker, SoundCloud, Apple 
Music, Google Play Music, Amazon Music, Spotify, Deezer, Pandora, Tidal, Sirus 
XM and dozens of others. 
You can even add multiple account for the same music service, e.g. if you have 
Apple Music and you want to add your own account and that of your wife or other 
family member then this is also possible.
Here is what they say directly on their website, keep in mind that I am in 
Canada and Pandora and probably other services are not available here which is 
why they don't show up in the list, despite that there are 39 services in this 
list and 5 more under Sonos Labs:

All the music on earth. And then some. 

Sonos was created by music lovers. For music lovers. Which means we want Sonos 
to play absolutely all the music you love - no matter where it comes from.
The Internet for streaming services, radio, and podcasts. 

RE: Sonos speakers and iPhone.

2017-06-18 Thread Mike Ulrich
Hi Seigard, I really would be interested in just how loud, and how the sound 
quality, is of these Sonos speakers really are. I don't mind spending good 
money on perfectly sounding loud Bluetooth speakers.
I've just recently purchased a "200 watts" Bluetooth speaker. Only to find out 
that the "200 watts" of today, is nowhere near the "200 watts" of yesteryear.
Talk about making you feel like an old man!

So here's my question:
What is the for real wattage of any of these Sonos Bluetooth speakers? I would 
plunk down good money for a BT speaker that would shake you out of your 
underwears!
But just show me that speaker and I'd buy it hands down.

Thanks much, and curiously awaiting a response!.Mike

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos speakers and iPhone.

Agree with Robin, accessibility of the iPhone app is fantastic and complete, 
sound quality is awesome and I have not yet seen another speaker which supports 
this many online sources both free and paid, I think Sonos supports over 30 
services including Tune In Radio, iHeart Radio, Slacker, SoundCloud, Apple 
Music, Google Play Music, Amazon Music, Spotify, Deezer, Pandora, Tidal, Sirus 
XM and dozens of others. 
You can even add multiple account for the same music service, e.g. if you have 
Apple Music and you want to add your own account and that of your wife or other 
family member then this is also possible.
Here is what they say directly on their website, keep in mind that I am in 
Canada and Pandora and probably other services are not available here which is 
why they don't show up in the list, despite that there are 39 services in this 
list and 5 more under Sonos Labs:

All the music on earth. And then some. 

Sonos was created by music lovers. For music lovers. Which means we want Sonos 
to play absolutely all the music you love - no matter where it comes from.
The Internet for streaming services, radio, and podcasts. Plus that personal 
collection of music downloads you’ve got stored on your computer, phone and 
tablet. 

Streaming services. 
Free. Premium. Curated. On-demand. The list of streaming music services on 
Sonos keeps growing. Some names you’ll recognize right away. Others may be less 
familiar, but still worth exploring. Remember, service availability varies by 
region so click for details to find out if it’s playing in your area.
Already subscribe to a service? Great. Just add it to Sonos using the app, sign 
in, and play it out loud — for the entire house to enjoy.

7digital 
Apple Music 
AccuRadio 
Anghami 
Audiobooks.com 
BandCamp 
CalmRadio 
Classical Archives 
Custom Channels
Dar FM 
daytrotter 
Deezer 
FIT Radio 
Focus at will 
Gaana
Google Play Music
Groove 
Hearts of Space 
hotelRadio 
Hype Machine 
iHeart Radio 
Last FM (scrobble only)
MixCloud 
Napster 
Nugs.net 
radionomy 
Radiopup 
RUSC 
Sirius XM 
Slacker Radio 
SoundCloud 
Soundmachine 
Spotify 
Spreaker
Stingray Music 
Stitcher 
Tidal 
tuneIn 
Tribe of Noise 

Sonos labs (upcoming services still in th testing phase):
NTS Radio 
Plex 
Radioplayer 
Sign in with RauteMusik.FM 
Wolfgang’s Music

Sonos plays everything – the most popular streaming services, on-demand 
services, internet radio, your favourite podcasts and audiobooks, your go-to 
collection of downloads – whatever you love to listen to.
 
Internet radio and podcasts. 
With Radio by TuneIn on Sonos, you’ll have instant access to over 100,000 local 
and international radio stations, shows, and podcasts streaming from every 
continent. All for free. 
Browse for stations or type in specific call letters or a podcast you love.

Your personal music library. 
Play music from every PC, Mac, and storage drive on your home network. Up to 16 
sources. And all those songs on your smartphone, too.
Choose “On this phone” in the Main Menu and listen to your heart’s content.

Audio formats supported 
Sonos supports a number of audio formats at various sample rates and bitrates 
including many of those used by Apple iTunes and Windows Media Player. The 
supported Lossless (uncompressed) formats are ALAC, FLAC, AIFF and WAV. The 
supported Lossy (compressed) formats are MP3, WMA, AAC and OGG.*

Operating systems (for stored files) 
Sonos can access files shared from a PC running Windows 7 and higher, Mac 
running OS X 10.9 and higher, or a Network Attached Storage (NAS) device that 
supports the Common Internet File System (CIFS).

Playlists supported 
Sonos supports the playlists that you've created in iTunes, Windows Media 
Player and services like Amazon Music, Apple Music, Deezer, Google Play Music, 
SoundCloud, Spotify, TIDAL, and more.

Album art supported 
JPG, BMP, GIF and PNG formats are supported up to a resolution of 1024 x 1024.

Internet radio supported 
Sonos supports MP3, AAC and WMA streaming audio format

RE: Sonos speakers and iPhone.

2017-06-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Agree with Robin, accessibility of the iPhone app is fantastic and complete, 
sound quality is awesome and I have not yet seen another speaker which supports 
this many online sources both free and paid, I think Sonos supports over 30 
services including Tune In Radio, iHeart Radio, Slacker, SoundCloud, Apple 
Music, Google Play Music, Amazon Music, Spotify, Deezer, Pandora, Tidal, Sirus 
XM and dozens of others. 
You can even add multiple account for the same music service, e.g. if you have 
Apple Music and you want to add your own account and that of your wife or other 
family member then this is also possible.
Here is what they say directly on their website, keep in mind that I am in 
Canada and Pandora and probably other services are not available here which is 
why they don't show up in the list, despite that there are 39 services in this 
list and 5 more under Sonos Labs:

All the music on earth. And then some. 

Sonos was created by music lovers. For music lovers. Which means we want Sonos 
to play absolutely all the music you love - no matter where it comes from.
The Internet for streaming services, radio, and podcasts. Plus that personal 
collection of music downloads you’ve got stored on your computer, phone and 
tablet. 

Streaming services. 
Free. Premium. Curated. On-demand. The list of streaming music services on 
Sonos keeps growing. Some names you’ll recognize right away. Others may be less 
familiar, but still worth exploring. Remember, service availability varies by 
region so click for details to find out if it’s playing in your area.
Already subscribe to a service? Great. Just add it to Sonos using the app, sign 
in, and play it out loud — for the entire house to enjoy.

7digital 
Apple Music 
AccuRadio 
Anghami 
Audiobooks.com 
BandCamp 
CalmRadio 
Classical Archives 
Custom Channels
Dar FM 
daytrotter 
Deezer 
FIT Radio 
Focus at will 
Gaana
Google Play Music
Groove 
Hearts of Space 
hotelRadio 
Hype Machine 
iHeart Radio 
Last FM (scrobble only)
MixCloud 
Napster 
Nugs.net 
radionomy 
Radiopup 
RUSC 
Sirius XM 
Slacker Radio 
SoundCloud 
Soundmachine 
Spotify 
Spreaker
Stingray Music 
Stitcher 
Tidal 
tuneIn 
Tribe of Noise 

Sonos labs (upcoming services still in th testing phase):
NTS Radio 
Plex 
Radioplayer 
Sign in with RauteMusik.FM 
Wolfgang’s Music

Sonos plays everything – the most popular streaming services, on-demand 
services, internet radio, your favourite podcasts and audiobooks, your go-to 
collection of downloads – whatever you love to listen to.
 
Internet radio and podcasts. 
With Radio by TuneIn on Sonos, you’ll have instant access to over 100,000 local 
and international radio stations, shows, and podcasts streaming from every 
continent. All for free. 
Browse for stations or type in specific call letters or a podcast you love.

Your personal music library. 
Play music from every PC, Mac, and storage drive on your home network. Up to 16 
sources. And all those songs on your smartphone, too.
Choose “On this phone” in the Main Menu and listen to your heart’s content.

Audio formats supported 
Sonos supports a number of audio formats at various sample rates and bitrates 
including many of those used by Apple iTunes and Windows Media Player. The 
supported Lossless (uncompressed) formats are ALAC, FLAC, AIFF and WAV. The 
supported Lossy (compressed) formats are MP3, WMA, AAC and OGG.*

Operating systems (for stored files) 
Sonos can access files shared from a PC running Windows 7 and higher, Mac 
running OS X 10.9 and higher, or a Network Attached Storage (NAS) device that 
supports the Common Internet File System (CIFS).

Playlists supported 
Sonos supports the playlists that you've created in iTunes, Windows Media 
Player and services like Amazon Music, Apple Music, Deezer, Google Play Music, 
SoundCloud, Spotify, TIDAL, and more.

Album art supported 
JPG, BMP, GIF and PNG formats are supported up to a resolution of 1024 x 1024.

Internet radio supported 
Sonos supports MP3, AAC and WMA streaming audio formats for Internet radio 
stations.
* It is important to note that Digital Rights Management (DRM) protected 
content is licensed for use in the program in which it was purchased. If 
applicable, you can upgrade the content via the licensed program to remove this 
protection so it can be used on Sonos.
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 9:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos speakers and iPhone.

Hi,
Yes they are easy to set up with iPhone you almost can't do it wrong even 
without vision. sonos connects with many online services including Pandora I 
believe. And sound is awesome in my humble view.
I hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sonos speakers and iPhone.

Hi all,


Considering the Sonos speakers.


Are they easy

Re: Sonos speakers and iPhone.

2017-06-18 Thread Robin Frost

Hi,
Yes they are easy to set up with iPhone you almost can't do it wrong even 
without vision. sonos connects with many online services including Pandora I 
believe. And sound is awesome in my humble view.

I hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Sadam Ahmed

Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sonos speakers and iPhone.

Hi all,


Considering the Sonos speakers.


Are they easy to set-up with the iPhone?


Also can you play music from various places for example Pandora etc?


And finally how is the sound on these speakers?


Thanks for any answers.


Sadam Ahmed

JAWS certified, 2017

Mobile:

+ 61 435 892 944

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