Re: Upgraded to 4s

2012-12-31 Thread Kevin Barry
If it's on a sticker and it's 8 digits it is WPS which is a major 
security vulnerability as it is easily  hacked.

Disable it from within your router and just use a proper WPA2 key.
Of course some routers won't let you turn it off and others, Linksys, 
will tell you it's off when it is not.


At 05:01 PM 12/31/2012, you wrote:

Sieghard is referring to the user ID and password you use to log onto
your router, and he's correct, if you haven't changed this then you can
look up the defaults on line or n your router's documentation.
Obviously, not changing this is a security concern, but someone would
have to already be on your network to even try to log in in the first place.

I think you're referring to the WPA key used to get on to the wireless
network, where you are correct, this is unique to the router and can
usually be found on a sticker on the router itself.

On 31/12/12 11:29, Rob Harris wrote:
> All modern routers we've had, have a label stuck to the back or bottom and
> the password is unique;  or their security would be worthless. 
This includes

> those provided by cable providers.
>
> RobH.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 5:08 PM
> Subject: RE: Upgraded to 4s
>
>
> Hi Tessa,
>
> Starting at the end of your post, the WiFi password cannot be viewed.
> Depending on which router they have, you can see the WiFi password and
> change it if you know how to log on to the router, but that of course
> requires a password as well. If your parents never changed it, then you can
> find out what the default router password is by doing a Google search for
> your brand/model of router, often a particular brand uses the same default
> password. For example, Netgear routers usually use "admin" as the user name
> and "password" as the password. Of course this is supposed to be changed by
> the user, but you'd be surprised how many users never do change 
this. If you
> can't log on to the router you could do a factory reset of the 
router (there
> is usually a Pinhole in the back and you poke a paper clip or 
something like

> that into it). Of course this would wipe out any custom settings. You will
> also need the routers Ip address, once again, this is brand specific. Many
> use 192.168.0.1, some use 192.168.1.1 (Netgear) and there maybe others.
>
> OK, now as far as your apps are concerned, you can keep your phones in sync
> if you use the same Apple Id on both phones and if you go into "Settings"
> and "Store" and tell both phones to automatically sync apps then if you
> delete an app on one phone it will also delete from the other phone, if you
> buy an app on one phone it will also appear on the other phone. 
Of course if
> you want to have separate apps, music and so on on each phone you 
should not

> enable this.
>
> If your iPhone 4 is still in good condition you could ask your provider to
> give you unlock instructions which they should do if the phone is no longer
> under contract. Then you can unlock it which would allow you to easily sell
> it. You can google "iPhone 4 resale values" or something like to 
get an idea

> what they are going for.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Tessa
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Upgraded to 4s
>
> I recently got a 4s but still have my 4. They just took the card from the 4
> and put it in the 4s. I had backed up my old phone and then hooked up the
> new to itunes and it eventually copied  my apps and such over.
> 1 I had entered several contacts on the old phone which never got 
transfered

> to the new, someone would call me and then I'd put their name and number in
> the contact list. Why didn't these get copied over?
> 2 My apps on the old phone are much more organized than on the new. I can
> still use the old one and sometimes try out some of my old apps and then
> delte them. I've also been trying out apps on the new phone and 
deleting the

> ones  that aren't accessible. I downloaded a whole bunch just for testing
> purposes and haven't got through them yet.
> Can I delete apps from the old or the new phone and have the same apps
> deleted from the other phone. Yes it does seem a bit senseless to have two
> devices doing the same thing but I haven't decided what to do with the old
> phone yet.
> I do have wireless here at home and my old phone can connect to my mom's
> wireless though they don't know their password so my new one can't LOL. Is
> there a way to 

Re: Upgraded to 4s

2012-12-31 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Sieghard is referring to the user ID and password you use to log onto
your router, and he's correct, if you haven't changed this then you can
look up the defaults on line or n your router's documentation.
Obviously, not changing this is a security concern, but someone would
have to already be on your network to even try to log in in the first place.

I think you're referring to the WPA key used to get on to the wireless
network, where you are correct, this is unique to the router and can
usually be found on a sticker on the router itself.

On 31/12/12 11:29, Rob Harris wrote:
> All modern routers we've had, have a label stuck to the back or bottom and 
> the password is unique;  or their security would be worthless. This includes 
> those provided by cable providers.
> 
> RobH.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 5:08 PM
> Subject: RE: Upgraded to 4s
> 
> 
> Hi Tessa,
> 
> Starting at the end of your post, the WiFi password cannot be viewed.
> Depending on which router they have, you can see the WiFi password and
> change it if you know how to log on to the router, but that of course
> requires a password as well. If your parents never changed it, then you can
> find out what the default router password is by doing a Google search for
> your brand/model of router, often a particular brand uses the same default
> password. For example, Netgear routers usually use "admin" as the user name
> and "password" as the password. Of course this is supposed to be changed by
> the user, but you'd be surprised how many users never do change this. If you
> can't log on to the router you could do a factory reset of the router (there
> is usually a Pinhole in the back and you poke a paper clip or something like
> that into it). Of course this would wipe out any custom settings. You will
> also need the routers Ip address, once again, this is brand specific. Many
> use 192.168.0.1, some use 192.168.1.1 (Netgear) and there maybe others.
> 
> OK, now as far as your apps are concerned, you can keep your phones in sync
> if you use the same Apple Id on both phones and if you go into "Settings"
> and "Store" and tell both phones to automatically sync apps then if you
> delete an app on one phone it will also delete from the other phone, if you
> buy an app on one phone it will also appear on the other phone. Of course if
> you want to have separate apps, music and so on on each phone you should not
> enable this.
> 
> If your iPhone 4 is still in good condition you could ask your provider to
> give you unlock instructions which they should do if the phone is no longer
> under contract. Then you can unlock it which would allow you to easily sell
> it. You can google "iPhone 4 resale values" or something like to get an idea
> what they are going for.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Tessa
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Upgraded to 4s
> 
> I recently got a 4s but still have my 4. They just took the card from the 4
> and put it in the 4s. I had backed up my old phone and then hooked up the
> new to itunes and it eventually copied  my apps and such over.
> 1 I had entered several contacts on the old phone which never got transfered
> to the new, someone would call me and then I'd put their name and number in
> the contact list. Why didn't these get copied over?
> 2 My apps on the old phone are much more organized than on the new. I can
> still use the old one and sometimes try out some of my old apps and then
> delte them. I've also been trying out apps on the new phone and deleting the
> ones  that aren't accessible. I downloaded a whole bunch just for testing
> purposes and haven't got through them yet.
> Can I delete apps from the old or the new phone and have the same apps
> deleted from the other phone. Yes it does seem a bit senseless to have two
> devices doing the same thing but I haven't decided what to do with the old
> phone yet.
> I do have wireless here at home and my old phone can connect to my mom's
> wireless though they don't know their password so my new one can't LOL. Is
> there a way to see the password on my old phone or is that hidden for
> security.
> Thanks for any thoughts on the issues
> Tessa
> And a happy new year to all
> My groups
> blind gardener blind-gardener-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
> writing blind  writingblind-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
> 
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Re: Upgraded to 4s

2012-12-31 Thread Rob Harris
All modern routers we've had, have a label stuck to the back or bottom and 
the password is unique;  or their security would be worthless. This includes 
those provided by cable providers.

RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: Upgraded to 4s


Hi Tessa,

Starting at the end of your post, the WiFi password cannot be viewed.
Depending on which router they have, you can see the WiFi password and
change it if you know how to log on to the router, but that of course
requires a password as well. If your parents never changed it, then you can
find out what the default router password is by doing a Google search for
your brand/model of router, often a particular brand uses the same default
password. For example, Netgear routers usually use "admin" as the user name
and "password" as the password. Of course this is supposed to be changed by
the user, but you'd be surprised how many users never do change this. If you
can't log on to the router you could do a factory reset of the router (there
is usually a Pinhole in the back and you poke a paper clip or something like
that into it). Of course this would wipe out any custom settings. You will
also need the routers Ip address, once again, this is brand specific. Many
use 192.168.0.1, some use 192.168.1.1 (Netgear) and there maybe others.

OK, now as far as your apps are concerned, you can keep your phones in sync
if you use the same Apple Id on both phones and if you go into "Settings"
and "Store" and tell both phones to automatically sync apps then if you
delete an app on one phone it will also delete from the other phone, if you
buy an app on one phone it will also appear on the other phone. Of course if
you want to have separate apps, music and so on on each phone you should not
enable this.

If your iPhone 4 is still in good condition you could ask your provider to
give you unlock instructions which they should do if the phone is no longer
under contract. Then you can unlock it which would allow you to easily sell
it. You can google "iPhone 4 resale values" or something like to get an idea
what they are going for.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tessa
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Upgraded to 4s

I recently got a 4s but still have my 4. They just took the card from the 4
and put it in the 4s. I had backed up my old phone and then hooked up the
new to itunes and it eventually copied  my apps and such over.
1 I had entered several contacts on the old phone which never got transfered
to the new, someone would call me and then I'd put their name and number in
the contact list. Why didn't these get copied over?
2 My apps on the old phone are much more organized than on the new. I can
still use the old one and sometimes try out some of my old apps and then
delte them. I've also been trying out apps on the new phone and deleting the
ones  that aren't accessible. I downloaded a whole bunch just for testing
purposes and haven't got through them yet.
Can I delete apps from the old or the new phone and have the same apps
deleted from the other phone. Yes it does seem a bit senseless to have two
devices doing the same thing but I haven't decided what to do with the old
phone yet.
I do have wireless here at home and my old phone can connect to my mom's
wireless though they don't know their password so my new one can't LOL. Is
there a way to see the password on my old phone or is that hidden for
security.
Thanks for any thoughts on the issues
Tessa
And a happy new year to all
My groups
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RE: Upgraded to 4s

2012-12-31 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Tessa,

Starting at the end of your post, the WiFi password cannot be viewed.
Depending on which router they have, you can see the WiFi password and
change it if you know how to log on to the router, but that of course
requires a password as well. If your parents never changed it, then you can
find out what the default router password is by doing a Google search for
your brand/model of router, often a particular brand uses the same default
password. For example, Netgear routers usually use "admin" as the user name
and "password" as the password. Of course this is supposed to be changed by
the user, but you'd be surprised how many users never do change this. If you
can't log on to the router you could do a factory reset of the router (there
is usually a Pinhole in the back and you poke a paper clip or something like
that into it). Of course this would wipe out any custom settings. You will
also need the routers Ip address, once again, this is brand specific. Many
use 192.168.0.1, some use 192.168.1.1 (Netgear) and there maybe others.

OK, now as far as your apps are concerned, you can keep your phones in sync
if you use the same Apple Id on both phones and if you go into "Settings"
and "Store" and tell both phones to automatically sync apps then if you
delete an app on one phone it will also delete from the other phone, if you
buy an app on one phone it will also appear on the other phone. Of course if
you want to have separate apps, music and so on on each phone you should not
enable this.

If your iPhone 4 is still in good condition you could ask your provider to
give you unlock instructions which they should do if the phone is no longer
under contract. Then you can unlock it which would allow you to easily sell
it. You can google "iPhone 4 resale values" or something like to get an idea
what they are going for.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tessa
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Upgraded to 4s

I recently got a 4s but still have my 4. They just took the card from the 4
and put it in the 4s. I had backed up my old phone and then hooked up the
new to itunes and it eventually copied  my apps and such over.
1 I had entered several contacts on the old phone which never got transfered
to the new, someone would call me and then I'd put their name and number in
the contact list. Why didn't these get copied over?
2 My apps on the old phone are much more organized than on the new. I can
still use the old one and sometimes try out some of my old apps and then
delte them. I've also been trying out apps on the new phone and deleting the
ones  that aren't accessible. I downloaded a whole bunch just for testing
purposes and haven't got through them yet.
Can I delete apps from the old or the new phone and have the same apps
deleted from the other phone. Yes it does seem a bit senseless to have two
devices doing the same thing but I haven't decided what to do with the old
phone yet.
I do have wireless here at home and my old phone can connect to my mom's
wireless though they don't know their password so my new one can't LOL. Is
there a way to see the password on my old phone or is that hidden for
security.
Thanks for any thoughts on the issues
Tessa
And a happy new year to all
My groups
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