RE: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

[leobado1982]

You wrote this:

Ow do you adjust the quality of the sound on the JAWS voices?

So, I thought it was for Windows.

 

To get to this adjustments,  in the iPhone you can listen to this Applevis 
episode:

https://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast1565.mp3

 

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive."

Elbert Hubbard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

 

Thank you. This is for an 
Iphone and these instructions look like windows 

 

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Subject: RE: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

 

Hi, I assume you want to modify the Jaws Eloquence.

 

You may want to carry out all the process by using a vocalizer voice instead of 
Eloquence.

 

First of all,  copy and paste the file that contains the values in a safe 
location, so that you can use it as a backup in any given scenario. Go to the 
following path:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Freedom Scientific\Shared\Eloquence\6.1

 

Now copy the file “ECI.INI” and put it in a safe location. Notice that in this 
folder there are two files with the same name, so make sure you’re saving the 
right file .ini.

 

Now, to modify the values contained in ECI.INI you have to launch notepad as an 
administrator, press control plus O to open a file in Notepad, and locate 
ECI.INI in the explorer.  After pushing control plus O though, make sure to 
change to “all files” the type of file extensions  that you can open with 
Notepad, otherwise you won’t be able to locate ECI.INI.

 

Once Notepad opened ECI.INI, push control plus F, and type “enu.syn” without 
any quotes,  and hit enter. Now push escape to close the dialogue.  The focus 
of the cursor should have landed on the language-specific parameters for 
Eloquence, which in this case is English United States. For English UK, you 
should locate the following string:

“eng.syn”

 

Now hit the home key  to get you to the beginning of the line, and start 
arrowing down until you find a similar line to  this one:

Voice1=0 50 65 30 0 0 50 92

 

These are actually the values you should modify to change the voice. Notice 
that after the = sign there are 8 values separated by a blank space. Those 
values correspond  respectively to:

Gender

HeadSize

PitchBaseLine

Pitch Fluctuation

Roughness

Breathiness

Speed

Volume

 

All of them scale from 0 to 100 except for gender. In this case you use 0 for 
male and 1 for female.

Now, for some reason changes has never a real effect on speed and volume, so I 
believe that Jaws is simply overwriting those parameters no matter what you do, 
but for what it’s worth, modifying the other parameters do have a real effect.

 

After performing any change, don’t forget to save the document.

 

You will also notice that there are 8 voices under each language specific 
setting, (e.g., voice2, voice3, etc.(.  Those alias  correspond respectively to 
 Reed, Shelly, Bobby, Rocko, Glen, Sandy, Grandma and Grandpa. So,  when you 
modify voice1, you’re really modifying Reed and so on and so forth.  Since I 
always want to have Reed  using the default values, but I also wanted to 
introduce modifications to use a customized voice to read, I modified Voice4, 
namely Rocko, an saved the changes. Then, I created a new voice profile based 
on Eloquence, and chose Rocko to be used in all contexts, PC, Jaws cursor, 
keyboard, etc.  In this way I can have these other profiles and always come 
back to Eloquence using the Reed voice by default.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive."

Elbert Hubbard

 

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Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

 

Ow do you 
adjust the quality of the sound on the JAWS voices? 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Subject: Re: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

 

Hi, 

 

I am also using it on my iPad mini and with the ability to adjust the quality 
of the sound you ca

RE: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

[Star Gazer]

Thank you. This is for an 
Iphone and these instructions look like windows 

 

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leobado1...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

 

Hi, I assume you want to modify the Jaws Eloquence.

 

You may want to carry out all the process by using a vocalizer voice instead of 
Eloquence.

 

First of all,  copy and paste the file that contains the values in a safe 
location, so that you can use it as a backup in any given scenario. Go to the 
following path:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Freedom Scientific\Shared\Eloquence\6.1

 

Now copy the file “ECI.INI” and put it in a safe location. Notice that in this 
folder there are two files with the same name, so make sure you’re saving the 
right file .ini.

 

Now, to modify the values contained in ECI.INI you have to launch notepad as an 
administrator, press control plus O to open a file in Notepad, and locate 
ECI.INI in the explorer.  After pushing control plus O though, make sure to 
change to “all files” the type of file extensions  that you can open with 
Notepad, otherwise you won’t be able to locate ECI.INI.

 

Once Notepad opened ECI.INI, push control plus F, and type “enu.syn” without 
any quotes,  and hit enter. Now push escape to close the dialogue.  The focus 
of the cursor should have landed on the language-specific parameters for 
Eloquence, which in this case is English United States. For English UK, you 
should locate the following string:

“eng.syn”

 

Now hit the home key  to get you to the beginning of the line, and start 
arrowing down until you find a similar line to  this one:

Voice1=0 50 65 30 0 0 50 92

 

These are actually the values you should modify to change the voice. Notice 
that after the = sign there are 8 values separated by a blank space. Those 
values correspond  respectively to:

Gender

HeadSize

PitchBaseLine

Pitch Fluctuation

Roughness

Breathiness

Speed

Volume

 

All of them scale from 0 to 100 except for gender. In this case you use 0 for 
male and 1 for female.

Now, for some reason changes has never a real effect on speed and volume, so I 
believe that Jaws is simply overwriting those parameters no matter what you do, 
but for what it’s worth, modifying the other parameters do have a real effect.

 

After performing any change, don’t forget to save the document.

 

You will also notice that there are 8 voices under each language specific 
setting, (e.g., voice2, voice3, etc.(.  Those alias  correspond respectively to 
 Reed, Shelly, Bobby, Rocko, Glen, Sandy, Grandma and Grandpa. So,  when you 
modify voice1, you’re really modifying Reed and so on and so forth.  Since I 
always want to have Reed  using the default values, but I also wanted to 
introduce modifications to use a customized voice to read, I modified Voice4, 
namely Rocko, an saved the changes. Then, I created a new voice profile based 
on Eloquence, and chose Rocko to be used in all contexts, PC, Jaws cursor, 
keyboard, etc.  In this way I can have these other profiles and always come 
back to Eloquence using the Reed voice by default.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive."

Elbert Hubbard

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

 

Ow do you 
adjust the quality of the sound on the JAWS voices? 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

 

Hi, 

 

I am also using it on my iPad mini and with the ability to adjust the quality 
of the sound you can make it sound more anhanced.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

On Sep 19, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Kevin Minor mailto:kmino...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi.

 

Last year I tried Eloquence on my iPhone. It sounded like it was 
overmodulating, and lowering the volume didn’t fix it. In iOS 17, this seems to 
be fixed. I’m happy about this, and am using it as my voice of choice.

 

Just sharing my good thing for the day.

 

Kevin and Jilly

 

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RE: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

[leobado1982]

Yes, Eloquence sounds just great!

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive."

Elbert Hubbard

 

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dyer
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

 

Hi, 

 

I am also using it on my iPad mini and with the ability to adjust the quality 
of the sound you can make it sound more anhanced.

 

Matthew

 

 





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Hi.

 

Last year I tried Eloquence on my iPhone. It sounded like it was 
overmodulating, and lowering the volume didn’t fix it. In iOS 17, this seems to 
be fixed. I’m happy about this, and am using it as my voice of choice.

 

Just sharing my good thing for the day.

 

Kevin and Jilly

 

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RE: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

[leobado1982]

Hi, I assume you want to modify the Jaws Eloquence.

 

You may want to carry out all the process by using a vocalizer voice instead of 
Eloquence.

 

First of all,  copy and paste the file that contains the values in a safe 
location, so that you can use it as a backup in any given scenario. Go to the 
following path:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Freedom Scientific\Shared\Eloquence\6.1

 

Now copy the file “ECI.INI” and put it in a safe location. Notice that in this 
folder there are two files with the same name, so make sure you’re saving the 
right file .ini.

 

Now, to modify the values contained in ECI.INI you have to launch notepad as an 
administrator, press control plus O to open a file in Notepad, and locate 
ECI.INI in the explorer.  After pushing control plus O though, make sure to 
change to “all files” the type of file extensions  that you can open with 
Notepad, otherwise you won’t be able to locate ECI.INI.

 

Once Notepad opened ECI.INI, push control plus F, and type “enu.syn” without 
any quotes,  and hit enter. Now push escape to close the dialogue.  The focus 
of the cursor should have landed on the language-specific parameters for 
Eloquence, which in this case is English United States. For English UK, you 
should locate the following string:

“eng.syn”

 

Now hit the home key  to get you to the beginning of the line, and start 
arrowing down until you find a similar line to  this one:

Voice1=0 50 65 30 0 0 50 92

 

These are actually the values you should modify to change the voice. Notice 
that after the = sign there are 8 values separated by a blank space. Those 
values correspond  respectively to:

Gender

HeadSize

PitchBaseLine

Pitch Fluctuation

Roughness

Breathiness

Speed

Volume

 

All of them scale from 0 to 100 except for gender. In this case you use 0 for 
male and 1 for female.

Now, for some reason changes has never a real effect on speed and volume, so I 
believe that Jaws is simply overwriting those parameters no matter what you do, 
but for what it’s worth, modifying the other parameters do have a real effect.

 

After performing any change, don’t forget to save the document.

 

You will also notice that there are 8 voices under each language specific 
setting, (e.g., voice2, voice3, etc.(.  Those alias  correspond respectively to 
 Reed, Shelly, Bobby, Rocko, Glen, Sandy, Grandma and Grandpa. So,  when you 
modify voice1, you’re really modifying Reed and so on and so forth.  Since I 
always want to have Reed  using the default values, but I also wanted to 
introduce modifications to use a customized voice to read, I modified Voice4, 
namely Rocko, an saved the changes. Then, I created a new voice profile based 
on Eloquence, and chose Rocko to be used in all contexts, PC, Jaws cursor, 
keyboard, etc.  In this way I can have these other profiles and always come 
back to Eloquence using the Reed voice by default.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive."

Elbert Hubbard

 

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Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

 

Ow do you 
adjust the quality of the sound on the JAWS voices? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

 

Hi, 

 

I am also using it on my iPad mini and with the ability to adjust the quality 
of the sound you can make it sound more anhanced.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

On Sep 19, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Kevin Minor mailto:kmino...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi.

 

Last year I tried Eloquence on my iPhone. It sounded like it was 
overmodulating, and lowering the volume didn’t fix it. In iOS 17, this seems to 
be fixed. I’m happy about this, and am using it as my voice of choice.

 

Just sharing my good thing for the day.

 

Kevin and Jilly

 

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RE: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

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Ow do you 
adjust the quality of the sound on the JAWS voices? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of matthew 
dyer
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

 

Hi, 

 

I am also using it on my iPad mini and with the ability to adjust the quality 
of the sound you can make it sound more anhanced.

 

Matthew

 

 





On Sep 19, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Kevin Minor mailto:kmino...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi.

 

Last year I tried Eloquence on my iPhone. It sounded like it was 
overmodulating, and lowering the volume didn’t fix it. In iOS 17, this seems to 
be fixed. I’m happy about this, and am using it as my voice of choice.

 

Just sharing my good thing for the day.

 

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Re: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I am also using it on my iPad mini and with the ability to adjust the quality 
of the sound you can make it sound more anhanced.

Matthew



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Hi.

Last year I tried Eloquence on my iPhone. It sounded like it was 
overmodulating, and lowering the volume didn’t fix it. In iOS 17, this seems to 
be fixed. I’m happy about this, and am using it as my voice of choice.

Just sharing my good thing for the day.

Kevin and Jilly

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