RE: ipad adjustments

[Richard Turner]

I recommend the Logitech K380 or K480 as the keys are about the same size as on 
a standard computer keyboard.
Often local stores like Target, Best Buy, carry them, or of course Amazon.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Devin 
Prater
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ipad adjustments

There are keyboard commands for navigating an iOS device. I’d recommend setting 
the Voiceover modifier to Capslock, and maybe teaching him Quick navigation 
with the arrow keys first, for less finger use. You can set things in Settings 
> accessibility > keyboard to help too. Note that you don’t /have/ to have a 
Magic keyboard.

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On Jun 17, 2020, at 2:45 AM, Joe Paton 
mailto:patonpl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello.
first a little background.

I am working with a person who suffers from ptsd after an injury caused
by an explosion.
apart from the psychological injuries, the physical consequences mainly,
are that his hands shake, and navigating the touch screen is very
dificult.

so, is it possible, and how can the touch screen be made less sensitive,
or delayed action imposed on the device to allow location and activation
of icons and other app elements on the screen, and within an app.
Flicking is really dificult for him, and of course explore by touch with
hand tremmer causes consequences that develop frustration
We can use a bluetooth keyboard to enter data, so that is not so much of
an issue. were there keyboard commands to navigate programs and home screens
that would be desirable, but I can't find out if this is possible,
so I guess not.  Guessing is of course no use at all.

We can use siri for a number of tasks of course, but the locations where
the device can be used may not always be condusive to dictation.
I have looked on applevis, but in the limited time I have, I haven't
turned up much that is solving these problems.
There are specialised switches, so where to find out about these, there
availability and if they would help, would be useful.
Many thanks.

Joe

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RE: ipad adjustments

[Richard Turner]

If he is using VoiceOver, none of the physical switches work when VoiceOver is 
on.
There are Bluetooth keyboard commands to do everything.
I have both a document with keyboard commands and a list of what I think are 
all of the voice control commands on my web site: www.turner42.com

This is a great place to be asking your questions.



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-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ipad adjustments

What about enabling Voice Control in Accessibility Settings? When you first 
enable the feature, it takes a couple of minutes to download the extra software 
but after that you can ask Siri to turn the feature on as required - and there 
is a voice control command to turn off voice control. Voice control commands 
can be used to replace all physical tapping and swiping and works well with or 
without VoiceOver. It is important either to use a headset or EarPods or else 
be careful to say “Command Mode”, otherwise text edit fields get filled up with 
every word you or VoiceOver say!
Harry

> On 17 Jun 2020, at 08:45, Joe Paton  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> first a little background.
> 
> I am working with a person who suffers from ptsd after an injury 
> caused by an explosion.
> apart from the psychological injuries, the physical consequences 
> mainly, are that his hands shake, and navigating the touch screen is 
> very dificult.
> 
> so, is it possible, and how can the touch screen be made less 
> sensitive, or delayed action imposed on the device to allow location 
> and activation of icons and other app elements on the screen, and within an 
> app.
> Flicking is really dificult for him, and of course explore by touch 
> with hand tremmer causes consequences that develop frustration We can 
> use a bluetooth keyboard to enter data, so that is not so much of an 
> issue. were there keyboard commands to navigate programs and home 
> screens that would be desirable, but I can't find out if this is 
> possible, so I guess not.  Guessing is of course no use at all.
> 
> We can use siri for a number of tasks of course, but the locations 
> where the device can be used may not always be condusive to dictation.
> I have looked on applevis, but in the limited time I have, I haven't 
> turned up much that is solving these problems.
> There are specialised switches, so where to find out about these, 
> there availability and if they would help, would be useful.
> Many thanks.
> 
> Joe
> 
> .
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: ipad adjustments

[Devin Prater]

There are keyboard commands for navigating an iOS device. I’d recommend setting 
the Voiceover modifier to Capslock, and maybe teaching him Quick navigation 
with the arrow keys first, for less finger use. You can set things in Settings 
> accessibility > keyboard to help too. Note that you don’t /have/ to have a 
Magic keyboard.

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-voiceover-with-magic-keyboard-iph6c494dc6/ios
 



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> On Jun 17, 2020, at 2:45 AM, Joe Paton  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> first a little background.
> 
> I am working with a person who suffers from ptsd after an injury caused
> by an explosion.
> apart from the psychological injuries, the physical consequences mainly,
> are that his hands shake, and navigating the touch screen is very
> dificult.
> 
> so, is it possible, and how can the touch screen be made less sensitive,
> or delayed action imposed on the device to allow location and activation
> of icons and other app elements on the screen, and within an app.
> Flicking is really dificult for him, and of course explore by touch with
> hand tremmer causes consequences that develop frustration
> We can use a bluetooth keyboard to enter data, so that is not so much of
> an issue. were there keyboard commands to navigate programs and home screens
> that would be desirable, but I can't find out if this is possible,
> so I guess not.  Guessing is of course no use at all. 
> 
> We can use siri for a number of tasks of course, but the locations where
> the device can be used may not always be condusive to dictation.
> I have looked on applevis, but in the limited time I have, I haven't
> turned up much that is solving these problems.
> There are specialised switches, so where to find out about these, there
> availability and if they would help, would be useful.
> Many thanks.
> 
> Joe
> 
> .
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: ipad adjustments

[Michael Feir]

My first thought would be to look in the Touch setings. You'll find that
button in the accessibility settings and it leads to a large group of
options which sound to me like what you want. You can change how gestures
work and do other things related to touch screen difficulties. I don't know
where you get the special control switches but imagine they'd be on Amazon
among other places. The Apple store would certainly have at least one or
two types in their accessories but they tend to sell things more
expensively than elsewhere. Hope that helps a bit.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 3:57 AM 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone <
viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> What about enabling Voice Control in Accessibility Settings? When you
> first enable the feature, it takes a couple of minutes to download the
> extra software but after that you can ask Siri to turn the feature on as
> required - and there is a voice control command to turn off voice control.
> Voice control commands can be used to replace all physical tapping and
> swiping and works well with or without VoiceOver. It is important either to
> use a headset or EarPods or else be careful to say “Command Mode”,
> otherwise text edit fields get filled up with every word you or VoiceOver
> say!
> Harry
>
> > On 17 Jun 2020, at 08:45, Joe Paton  wrote:
> >
> > Hello.
> > first a little background.
> >
> > I am working with a person who suffers from ptsd after an injury caused
> > by an explosion.
> > apart from the psychological injuries, the physical consequences mainly,
> > are that his hands shake, and navigating the touch screen is very
> > dificult.
> >
> > so, is it possible, and how can the touch screen be made less sensitive,
> > or delayed action imposed on the device to allow location and activation
> > of icons and other app elements on the screen, and within an app.
> > Flicking is really dificult for him, and of course explore by touch with
> > hand tremmer causes consequences that develop frustration
> > We can use a bluetooth keyboard to enter data, so that is not so much of
> > an issue. were there keyboard commands to navigate programs and home
> screens
> > that would be desirable, but I can't find out if this is possible,
> > so I guess not.  Guessing is of course no use at all.
> >
> > We can use siri for a number of tasks of course, but the locations where
> > the device can be used may not always be condusive to dictation.
> > I have looked on applevis, but in the limited time I have, I haven't
> > turned up much that is solving these problems.
> > There are specialised switches, so where to find out about these, there
> > availability and if they would help, would be useful.
> > Many thanks.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: ipad adjustments

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

What about enabling Voice Control in Accessibility Settings? When you first 
enable the feature, it takes a couple of minutes to download the extra software 
but after that you can ask Siri to turn the feature on as required - and there 
is a voice control command to turn off voice control. Voice control commands 
can be used to replace all physical tapping and swiping and works well with or 
without VoiceOver. It is important either to use a headset or EarPods or else 
be careful to say “Command Mode”, otherwise text edit fields get filled up with 
every word you or VoiceOver say!
Harry

> On 17 Jun 2020, at 08:45, Joe Paton  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> first a little background.
> 
> I am working with a person who suffers from ptsd after an injury caused
> by an explosion.
> apart from the psychological injuries, the physical consequences mainly,
> are that his hands shake, and navigating the touch screen is very
> dificult.
> 
> so, is it possible, and how can the touch screen be made less sensitive,
> or delayed action imposed on the device to allow location and activation
> of icons and other app elements on the screen, and within an app.
> Flicking is really dificult for him, and of course explore by touch with
> hand tremmer causes consequences that develop frustration
> We can use a bluetooth keyboard to enter data, so that is not so much of
> an issue. were there keyboard commands to navigate programs and home screens
> that would be desirable, but I can't find out if this is possible,
> so I guess not.  Guessing is of course no use at all. 
> 
> We can use siri for a number of tasks of course, but the locations where
> the device can be used may not always be condusive to dictation.
> I have looked on applevis, but in the limited time I have, I haven't
> turned up much that is solving these problems.
> There are specialised switches, so where to find out about these, there
> availability and if they would help, would be useful.
> Many thanks.
> 
> Joe
> 
> .
> 
> 
> 
> 
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