Re: rivo2
I did try something like that but I shall try again. - Original Message - From: "Albert Brown" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 16:13 Subject: RE: rivo2 If I want to use Siri I press r1 plus 3 on the keyboard. ALBERT JAWS HOME USE EDITION. VERSION 2024.2310.70 MICROSOFT WINDOWS Operating System Windows 11 Home (x64) Version 23H2 (OS built 22631.3007) -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of alan Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 7:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: rivo2 yes it is. I can use either the home key or the 0 key on the rivo to engage siri. but when i talk into rivo's microphone, nothing happens. - Original Message - From: David Grossoehme <mailto:d...@grossoehme.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ; alan <mailto:ahe...@earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 14:30 Subject: Re: rivo2 Is the setting for Siri to listen turned on? If you have had an Apple Update reasonly this may have been turned off. I'd check that setting to start with. Dave On 1/16/2024 1:53 PM, alan wrote: hi jenny alan here. I have an issue with it's mic. I can have the phone communicate with the rivo however, when I use the mic to ask siri things, it doesn't hear it. I would think, in audio mode, the mic should work. does it require headphones be connected or should it work by default? I have the se2020 iphone. sometimes I have a set of Bluetooth headphones connected to the iphone. it doesn't have mics, at least I don't think so. they are called Bose quiet comfort 35. I do hope that maybe I can communicate via landline on my side if necessary. thanks, Alan - Original Message - From: Jennie Facer <mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 13:10 Subject: Re: rivo2 Hi Alen, I do happen to have one of these devices. How can I help you? Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:04?AM, alan mailto:ahe...@earthlink.net> > wrote: ? hi. alan here. does anyone know about a device that is used to communicate with the iphone called the rivo2? it is a device that can make an iphone usable to a blind person that has difficulty with the touch screens on the phone itself. it uses a 20 digit key pad. I am having a problem with mine that I am not sure about regarding it's mic. I hope I can get assistance here. thanks -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000801da489d%24febc4e70%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000801da489d%24febc4e70%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/60728905-0ED7-46D3-8E2F-C0C9F56FDB32%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/60728905-0ED7-46D3-8E2F-C0C9F56FDB32%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions
RE: rivo2
If I want to use Siri I press r1 plus 3 on the keyboard.
ALBERT
JAWS HOME USE EDITION. VERSION 2024.2310.70
MICROSOFT WINDOWS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home (x64) Version 23H2 (OS built 22631.3007)
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of alan
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 7:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: rivo2
yes it is. I can use either the home key or the 0 key on the rivo to engage
siri. but when i talk into rivo's microphone, nothing happens.
- Original Message -
From: David Grossoehme <mailto:d...@grossoehme.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ; alan
<mailto:ahe...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 14:30
Subject: Re: rivo2
Is the setting for Siri to listen turned on? If you have had an Apple
Update
reasonly this may have been turned off. I'd check that setting to start with.
Dave
On 1/16/2024 1:53 PM, alan wrote:
hi jenny alan here. I have an issue with it's mic. I can have
the phone
communicate with the rivo however, when I use the mic to ask siri things, it
doesn't hear it. I would think, in audio mode, the mic should work. does it
require headphones be connected or should it work by default? I have the
se2020 iphone. sometimes I have a set of Bluetooth headphones connected to the
iphone. it doesn't have mics, at least I don't think so. they are called Bose
quiet comfort 35.
I do hope that maybe I can communicate via landline on my
side if
necessary.
thanks,
Alan
- Original Message -
From: Jennie Facer <mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 13:10
Subject: Re: rivo2
Hi Alen,
I do happen to have one of these devices. How can I
help you?
Jenn
Jenn and Kumi
On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:04?AM, alan
mailto:ahe...@earthlink.net> > wrote:
?
hi. alan here. does anyone know about a device
that is used to communicate
with the iphone called the rivo2? it is a device that can make an iphone
usable to a blind person that has difficulty with the touch screens on the
phone itself. it uses a 20 digit key pad. I am having a problem with mine that
I am not sure about regarding it's mic. I hope I can get assistance here.
thanks
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Re: rivo2
I wish I did. that's exactly what I'd like to do. - Original Message - From: David Grossoehme To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 16:01 Subject: Re: rivo2 Do you have a set of earphones with microphone that you could try to see if it works that way? Dave On 1/16/2024 3:59 PM, alan wrote: yes I have been all over that rivo site, also I do have a text version of it's full manual. it does mention key combos for switching from earphone mic to rivo mic. it is supposed to vibrate once when it is in rivo mic. however it doesn't do it. however since I'm not using any earphones plugged into rivo, I would think it would default to it's own mic. - Original Message - From: David Grossoehme To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 15:54 Subject: Re: rivo2 That's what I was writing to ask now. Is that idevi...@groups.io? The subscribing address is idevices+subscr...@groups.io. Have you tried going on the Rivo web page and trying to find a question and answer facts area of the page to see if anyone else is having the same problem. Dave On 1/16/2024 3:47 PM, alan wrote: hi again. there is another list I have been trying to join, but again they didn't respond. it is an idevices list. - Original Message - From: David Grossoehme To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 14:30 Subject: Re: rivo2 Is the setting for Siri to listen turned on? If you have had an Apple Update reasonly this may have been turned off. I'd check that setting to start with. Dave On 1/16/2024 1:53 PM, alan wrote: hi jenny alan here. I have an issue with it's mic. I can have the phone communicate with the rivo however, when I use the mic to ask siri things, it doesn't hear it. I would think, in audio mode, the mic should work. does it require headphones be connected or should it work by default? I have the se2020 iphone. sometimes I have a set of Bluetooth headphones connected to the iphone. it doesn't have mics, at least I don't think so. they are called Bose quiet comfort 35. I do hope that maybe I can communicate via landline on my side if necessary. thanks, Alan - Original Message - From: Jennie Facer To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 13:10 Subject: Re: rivo2 Hi Alen, I do happen to have one of these devices. How can I help you? Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:04 AM, alan wrote: hi. alan here. does anyone know about a device that is used to communicate with the iphone called the rivo2? it is a device that can make an iphone usable to a blind person that has difficulty with the touch screens on the phone itself. it uses a 20 digit key pad. I am having a problem with mine that I am not sure about regarding it's mic. I hope I can get assistance here. thanks -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000801da489d%24febc4e70%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@car
Re: rivo2
Do you have a set of earphones with microphone that you could try to see
if it works that way?
Dave
On 1/16/2024 3:59 PM, alan wrote:
yes I have been all over that rivo site, also I do have a text version
of it's full manual. it does mention key combos for switching from
earphone mic to rivo mic. it is supposed to vibrate once when it is
in rivo mic. however it doesn't do it. however since I'm not using any
earphones plugged into rivo, I would think it would default to it's
own mic.
- Original Message -
*From:* David Grossoehme <mailto:d...@grossoehme.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan <mailto:ahe...@earthlink.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 15:54
*Subject:* Re: rivo2
That's what I was writing to ask now. Is that idevi...@groups.io?
The subscribing address is idevices+subscr...@groups.io. Have you
tried going on the Rivo web page and trying to find a question and
answer facts area of the page to see if anyone else is having the
same problem.
Dave
On 1/16/2024 3:47 PM, alan wrote:
hi again. there is another list I have been trying to join, but
again they didn't respond. it is an idevices list.
- Original Message -
*From:* David Grossoehme <mailto:d...@grossoehme.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan
<mailto:ahe...@earthlink.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 14:30
*Subject:* Re: rivo2
Is the setting for Siri to listen turned on? If you have had
an Apple Update reasonly this may have been turned off. I'd
check that setting to start with.
Dave
On 1/16/2024 1:53 PM, alan wrote:
hi jenny alan here. I have an issue with it's mic. I can
have the phone communicate with the rivo however, when I use
the mic to ask siri things, it doesn't hear it. I would
think, in audio mode, the mic should work. does it require
headphones be connected or should it work by default? I have
the se2020 iphone. sometimes I have a set of Bluetooth
headphones connected to the iphone. it doesn't have mics, at
least I don't think so. they are called Bose quiet comfort 35.
I do hope that maybe I can communicate via landline on
my side if necessary.
thanks,
Alan
- Original Message -
*From:* Jennie Facer <mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 13:10
*Subject:* Re: rivo2
Hi Alen,
I do happen to have one of these devices. How can I help
you?
Jenn
Jenn and Kumi
On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:04 AM, alan
wrote:
hi. alan here. does anyone know about a device that is
used to communicate with the iphone called the rivo2?
it is a device that can make an iphone usable to a
blind person that has difficulty with the touch screens
on the phone itself. it uses a 20 digit key pad. I am
having a problem with mine that I am not sure about
regarding it's mic. I hope I can get assistance here.
thanks
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yes I have been all over that rivo site, also I do have a text version of it's full manual. it does mention key combos for switching from earphone mic to rivo mic. it is supposed to vibrate once when it is in rivo mic. however it doesn't do it. however since I'm not using any earphones plugged into rivo, I would think it would default to it's own mic. - Original Message - From: David Grossoehme To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 15:54 Subject: Re: rivo2 That's what I was writing to ask now. Is that idevi...@groups.io? The subscribing address is idevices+subscr...@groups.io. Have you tried going on the Rivo web page and trying to find a question and answer facts area of the page to see if anyone else is having the same problem. Dave On 1/16/2024 3:47 PM, alan wrote: hi again. there is another list I have been trying to join, but again they didn't respond. it is an idevices list. - Original Message - From: David Grossoehme To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 14:30 Subject: Re: rivo2 Is the setting for Siri to listen turned on? If you have had an Apple Update reasonly this may have been turned off. I'd check that setting to start with. Dave On 1/16/2024 1:53 PM, alan wrote: hi jenny alan here. I have an issue with it's mic. I can have the phone communicate with the rivo however, when I use the mic to ask siri things, it doesn't hear it. I would think, in audio mode, the mic should work. does it require headphones be connected or should it work by default? I have the se2020 iphone. sometimes I have a set of Bluetooth headphones connected to the iphone. it doesn't have mics, at least I don't think so. they are called Bose quiet comfort 35. I do hope that maybe I can communicate via landline on my side if necessary. thanks, Alan - Original Message - From: Jennie Facer To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 13:10 Subject: Re: rivo2 Hi Alen, I do happen to have one of these devices. How can I help you? Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:04 AM, alan wrote: hi. alan here. does anyone know about a device that is used to communicate with the iphone called the rivo2? it is a device that can make an iphone usable to a blind person that has difficulty with the touch screens on the phone itself. it uses a 20 digit key pad. I am having a problem with mine that I am not sure about regarding it's mic. I hope I can get assistance here. thanks -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000801da489d%24febc4e70%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/60728905-0ED7-46D3-8E2F-C0C9F56FDB32%40gmail.com. -- The following info
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That's what I was writing to ask now. Is that idevi...@groups.io? The
subscribing address is idevices+subscr...@groups.io. Have you tried
going on the Rivo web page and trying to find a question and answer
facts area of the page to see if anyone else is having the same problem.
Dave
On 1/16/2024 3:47 PM, alan wrote:
hi again. there is another list I have been trying to join, but again
they didn't respond. it is an idevices list.
- Original Message -
*From:* David Grossoehme <mailto:d...@grossoehme.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan <mailto:ahe...@earthlink.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 14:30
*Subject:* Re: rivo2
Is the setting for Siri to listen turned on? If you have had an
Apple Update reasonly this may have been turned off. I'd check
that setting to start with.
Dave
On 1/16/2024 1:53 PM, alan wrote:
hi jenny alan here. I have an issue with it's mic. I can have the
phone communicate with the rivo however, when I use the mic to
ask siri things, it doesn't hear it. I would think, in audio
mode, the mic should work. does it require headphones be
connected or should it work by default? I have the se2020 iphone.
sometimes I have a set of Bluetooth headphones connected to the
iphone. it doesn't have mics, at least I don't think so. they are
called Bose quiet comfort 35.
I do hope that maybe I can communicate via landline on my
side if necessary.
thanks,
Alan
- Original Message -
*From:* Jennie Facer <mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 13:10
*Subject:* Re: rivo2
Hi Alen,
I do happen to have one of these devices. How can I help you?
Jenn
Jenn and Kumi
On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:04 AM, alan wrote:
hi. alan here. does anyone know about a device that is used
to communicate with the iphone called the rivo2? it is a
device that can make an iphone usable to a blind person that
has difficulty with the touch screens on the phone itself.
it uses a 20 digit key pad. I am having a problem with mine
that I am not sure about regarding it's mic. I hope I can
get assistance here.
thanks
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hi again. there is another list I have been trying to join, but again they didn't respond. it is an idevices list. - Original Message - From: David Grossoehme To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 14:30 Subject: Re: rivo2 Is the setting for Siri to listen turned on? If you have had an Apple Update reasonly this may have been turned off. I'd check that setting to start with. Dave On 1/16/2024 1:53 PM, alan wrote: hi jenny alan here. I have an issue with it's mic. I can have the phone communicate with the rivo however, when I use the mic to ask siri things, it doesn't hear it. I would think, in audio mode, the mic should work. does it require headphones be connected or should it work by default? I have the se2020 iphone. sometimes I have a set of Bluetooth headphones connected to the iphone. it doesn't have mics, at least I don't think so. they are called Bose quiet comfort 35. I do hope that maybe I can communicate via landline on my side if necessary. thanks, Alan - Original Message - From: Jennie Facer To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 13:10 Subject: Re: rivo2 Hi Alen, I do happen to have one of these devices. How can I help you? Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:04 AM, alan wrote: hi. alan here. does anyone know about a device that is used to communicate with the iphone called the rivo2? it is a device that can make an iphone usable to a blind person that has difficulty with the touch screens on the phone itself. it uses a 20 digit key pad. I am having a problem with mine that I am not sure about regarding it's mic. I hope I can get assistance here. thanks -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000801da489d%24febc4e70%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/60728905-0ED7-46D3-8E2F-C0C9F56FDB32%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000c01da48ad%245da70560%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions
Re: rivo2
they never answer from their country. - Original Message - From: David Grossoehme To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 15:44 Subject: Re: rivo2 What do you have for settings in Rivo Settings. If Siri will hear you from the phone microphone, then I'd question what Rivo has in it's device settings for Siri. Without knowing much about this device, it's hard to say if Rivo will let you use the microphone if the phone will. It's definitely something in the Rivo settings that is stopping the Rivo microphone from activating siri. I wish I could be of more help here. Have you tried contacting customer service at Rivo to see if they can help you? Good luck. Dave On 1/16/2024 3:37 PM, alan wrote: in rivo's audio mode, I can only talk to siri from the iphone mic but not the rivo mic. will this setting allow it to switch automatically? - Original Message - From: David Grossoehme To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 15:23 Subject: Re: rivo2 Beings you can not access Siri through the microphone tells me that the setting for listen Siri Hay siri is turned off. You could still reach siri using the keyboard but not by speaking her name by voice. When you go to settings, then to Siri and select it, it is the first setting in there. Are you sure that this setting is turned on? Dave On 1/16/2024 2:53 PM, alan wrote: yes it is. I can use either the home key or the 0 key on the rivo to engage siri. but when i talk into rivo's microphone, nothing happens. - Original Message - From: David Grossoehme To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 14:30 Subject: Re: rivo2 Is the setting for Siri to listen turned on? If you have had an Apple Update reasonly this may have been turned off. I'd check that setting to start with. Dave On 1/16/2024 1:53 PM, alan wrote: hi jenny alan here. I have an issue with it's mic. I can have the phone communicate with the rivo however, when I use the mic to ask siri things, it doesn't hear it. I would think, in audio mode, the mic should work. does it require headphones be connected or should it work by default? I have the se2020 iphone. sometimes I have a set of Bluetooth headphones connected to the iphone. it doesn't have mics, at least I don't think so. they are called Bose quiet comfort 35. I do hope that maybe I can communicate via landline on my side if necessary. thanks, Alan - Original Message - From: Jennie Facer To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 13:10 Subject: Re: rivo2 Hi Alen, I do happen to have one of these devices. How can I help you? Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:04 AM, alan wrote: hi. alan here. does anyone know about a device that is used to communicate with the iphone called the rivo2? it is a device that can make an iphone usable to a blind person that has difficulty with the touch screens on the phone itself. it uses a 20 digit key pad. I am having a problem with mine that I am not sure about regarding it's mic. I hope I can get assistance here. thanks -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000801da489d%24febc4e70%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, plea
Re: rivo2
What do you have for settings in Rivo Settings. If Siri will hear you
from the phone microphone, then I'd question what Rivo has in it's
device settings for Siri. Without knowing much about this device, it's
hard to say if Rivo will let you use the microphone if the phone will.
It's definitely something in the Rivo settings that is stopping the Rivo
microphone from activating siri. I wish I could be of more help here.
Have you tried contacting customer service at Rivo to see if they can
help you? Good luck.
Dave
On 1/16/2024 3:37 PM, alan wrote:
in rivo's audio mode, I can only talk to siri from the iphone mic but
not the rivo mic. will this setting allow it to switch automatically?
- Original Message -
*From:* David Grossoehme <mailto:d...@grossoehme.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan <mailto:ahe...@earthlink.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 15:23
*Subject:* Re: rivo2
Beings you can not access Siri through the microphone tells me
that the setting for listen Siri Hay siri is turned off. You could
still reach siri using the keyboard but not by speaking her name
by voice. When you go to settings, then to Siri and select it, it
is the first setting in there. Are you sure that this setting is
turned on?
Dave
On 1/16/2024 2:53 PM, alan wrote:
yes it is. I can use either the home key or the 0 key on the rivo
to engage siri. but when i talk into rivo's microphone, nothing
happens.
- Original Message -
*From:* David Grossoehme <mailto:d...@grossoehme.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan
<mailto:ahe...@earthlink.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 14:30
*Subject:* Re: rivo2
Is the setting for Siri to listen turned on? If you have had
an Apple Update reasonly this may have been turned off. I'd
check that setting to start with.
Dave
On 1/16/2024 1:53 PM, alan wrote:
hi jenny alan here. I have an issue with it's mic. I can
have the phone communicate with the rivo however, when I use
the mic to ask siri things, it doesn't hear it. I would
think, in audio mode, the mic should work. does it require
headphones be connected or should it work by default? I have
the se2020 iphone. sometimes I have a set of Bluetooth
headphones connected to the iphone. it doesn't have mics, at
least I don't think so. they are called Bose quiet comfort 35.
I do hope that maybe I can communicate via landline on
my side if necessary.
thanks,
Alan
- Original Message -
*From:* Jennie Facer <mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 13:10
*Subject:* Re: rivo2
Hi Alen,
I do happen to have one of these devices. How can I help
you?
Jenn
Jenn and Kumi
On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:04 AM, alan
wrote:
hi. alan here. does anyone know about a device that is
used to communicate with the iphone called the rivo2?
it is a device that can make an iphone usable to a
blind person that has difficulty with the touch screens
on the phone itself. it uses a 20 digit key pad. I am
having a problem with mine that I am not sure about
regarding it's mic. I hope I can get assistance here.
thanks
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Re: rivo2
in rivo's audio mode, I can only talk to siri from the iphone mic but not the rivo mic. will this setting allow it to switch automatically? - Original Message - From: David Grossoehme To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 15:23 Subject: Re: rivo2 Beings you can not access Siri through the microphone tells me that the setting for listen Siri Hay siri is turned off. You could still reach siri using the keyboard but not by speaking her name by voice. When you go to settings, then to Siri and select it, it is the first setting in there. Are you sure that this setting is turned on? Dave On 1/16/2024 2:53 PM, alan wrote: yes it is. I can use either the home key or the 0 key on the rivo to engage siri. but when i talk into rivo's microphone, nothing happens. - Original Message - From: David Grossoehme To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 14:30 Subject: Re: rivo2 Is the setting for Siri to listen turned on? If you have had an Apple Update reasonly this may have been turned off. I'd check that setting to start with. Dave On 1/16/2024 1:53 PM, alan wrote: hi jenny alan here. I have an issue with it's mic. I can have the phone communicate with the rivo however, when I use the mic to ask siri things, it doesn't hear it. I would think, in audio mode, the mic should work. does it require headphones be connected or should it work by default? I have the se2020 iphone. sometimes I have a set of Bluetooth headphones connected to the iphone. it doesn't have mics, at least I don't think so. they are called Bose quiet comfort 35. I do hope that maybe I can communicate via landline on my side if necessary. thanks, Alan - Original Message - From: Jennie Facer To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 13:10 Subject: Re: rivo2 Hi Alen, I do happen to have one of these devices. How can I help you? Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:04 AM, alan wrote: hi. alan here. does anyone know about a device that is used to communicate with the iphone called the rivo2? it is a device that can make an iphone usable to a blind person that has difficulty with the touch screens on the phone itself. it uses a 20 digit key pad. I am having a problem with mine that I am not sure about regarding it's mic. I hope I can get assistance here. thanks -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000801da489d%24febc4e70%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/60728905-0ED7-46D3-8E2F-C0C9F56FDB32%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of t
Re: rivo2
Beings you can not access Siri through the microphone tells me that the
setting for listen Siri Hay siri is turned off. You could still reach
siri using the keyboard but not by speaking her name by voice. When you
go to settings, then to Siri and select it, it is the first setting in
there. Are you sure that this setting is turned on?
Dave
On 1/16/2024 2:53 PM, alan wrote:
yes it is. I can use either the home key or the 0 key on the rivo to
engage siri. but when i talk into rivo's microphone, nothing happens.
- Original Message -
*From:* David Grossoehme <mailto:d...@grossoehme.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan <mailto:ahe...@earthlink.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 14:30
*Subject:* Re: rivo2
Is the setting for Siri to listen turned on? If you have had an
Apple Update reasonly this may have been turned off. I'd check
that setting to start with.
Dave
On 1/16/2024 1:53 PM, alan wrote:
hi jenny alan here. I have an issue with it's mic. I can have the
phone communicate with the rivo however, when I use the mic to
ask siri things, it doesn't hear it. I would think, in audio
mode, the mic should work. does it require headphones be
connected or should it work by default? I have the se2020 iphone.
sometimes I have a set of Bluetooth headphones connected to the
iphone. it doesn't have mics, at least I don't think so. they are
called Bose quiet comfort 35.
I do hope that maybe I can communicate via landline on my
side if necessary.
thanks,
Alan
- Original Message -
*From:* Jennie Facer <mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 13:10
*Subject:* Re: rivo2
Hi Alen,
I do happen to have one of these devices. How can I help you?
Jenn
Jenn and Kumi
On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:04 AM, alan wrote:
hi. alan here. does anyone know about a device that is used
to communicate with the iphone called the rivo2? it is a
device that can make an iphone usable to a blind person that
has difficulty with the touch screens on the phone itself.
it uses a 20 digit key pad. I am having a problem with mine
that I am not sure about regarding it's mic. I hope I can
get assistance here.
thanks
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yes it is. I can use either the home key or the 0 key on the rivo to engage siri. but when i talk into rivo's microphone, nothing happens. - Original Message - From: David Grossoehme To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; alan Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 14:30 Subject: Re: rivo2 Is the setting for Siri to listen turned on? If you have had an Apple Update reasonly this may have been turned off. I'd check that setting to start with. Dave On 1/16/2024 1:53 PM, alan wrote: hi jenny alan here. I have an issue with it's mic. I can have the phone communicate with the rivo however, when I use the mic to ask siri things, it doesn't hear it. I would think, in audio mode, the mic should work. does it require headphones be connected or should it work by default? I have the se2020 iphone. sometimes I have a set of Bluetooth headphones connected to the iphone. it doesn't have mics, at least I don't think so. they are called Bose quiet comfort 35. I do hope that maybe I can communicate via landline on my side if necessary. thanks, Alan - Original Message - From: Jennie Facer To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 13:10 Subject: Re: rivo2 Hi Alen, I do happen to have one of these devices. How can I help you? Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:04 AM, alan wrote: hi. alan here. does anyone know about a device that is used to communicate with the iphone called the rivo2? it is a device that can make an iphone usable to a blind person that has difficulty with the touch screens on the phone itself. it uses a 20 digit key pad. I am having a problem with mine that I am not sure about regarding it's mic. I hope I can get assistance here. thanks -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000801da489d%24febc4e70%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/60728905-0ED7-46D3-8E2F-C0C9F56FDB32%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000c01da48ad%245da70560%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you
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Is the setting for Siri to listen turned on? If you have had an Apple Update reasonly this may have been turned off. I'd check that setting to start with. Dave On 1/16/2024 1:53 PM, alan wrote: hi jenny alan here. I have an issue with it's mic. I can have the phone communicate with the rivo however, when I use the mic to ask siri things, it doesn't hear it. I would think, in audio mode, the mic should work. does it require headphones be connected or should it work by default? I have the se2020 iphone. sometimes I have a set of Bluetooth headphones connected to the iphone. it doesn't have mics, at least I don't think so. they are called Bose quiet comfort 35. I do hope that maybe I can communicate via landline on my side if necessary. thanks, Alan - Original Message - *From:* Jennie Facer <mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 13:10 *Subject:* Re: rivo2 Hi Alen, I do happen to have one of these devices. How can I help you? Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:04 AM, alan wrote: hi. alan here. does anyone know about a device that is used to communicate with the iphone called the rivo2? it is a device that can make an iphone usable to a blind person that has difficulty with the touch screens on the phone itself. it uses a 20 digit key pad. I am having a problem with mine that I am not sure about regarding it's mic. I hope I can get assistance here. thanks -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000801da489d%24febc4e70%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000801da489d%24febc4e70%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/60728905-0ED7-46D3-8E2F-C0C9F56FDB32%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/60728905-0ED7-46D3-8E2F-C0C9F56FDB32%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000c01da48ad%245da70560%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000c01da48ad%245da70560%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions
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hi jenny alan here. I have an issue with it's mic. I can have the phone communicate with the rivo however, when I use the mic to ask siri things, it doesn't hear it. I would think, in audio mode, the mic should work. does it require headphones be connected or should it work by default? I have the se2020 iphone. sometimes I have a set of Bluetooth headphones connected to the iphone. it doesn't have mics, at least I don't think so. they are called Bose quiet comfort 35. I do hope that maybe I can communicate via landline on my side if necessary. thanks, Alan - Original Message - From: Jennie Facer To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 13:10 Subject: Re: rivo2 Hi Alen, I do happen to have one of these devices. How can I help you? Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:04 AM, alan wrote: hi. alan here. does anyone know about a device that is used to communicate with the iphone called the rivo2? it is a device that can make an iphone usable to a blind person that has difficulty with the touch screens on the phone itself. it uses a 20 digit key pad. I am having a problem with mine that I am not sure about regarding it's mic. I hope I can get assistance here. thanks -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000801da489d%24febc4e70%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/60728905-0ED7-46D3-8E2F-C0C9F56FDB32%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000c01da48ad%245da70560%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP.
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Hi Alen,I do happen to have one of these devices. How can I help you?JennJenn and KumiOn Jan 16, 2024, at 10:04 AM, alan wrote: hi. alan here. does anyone know about a device that is used to communicate with the iphone called the rivo2? it is a device that can make an iphone usable to a blind person that has difficulty with the touch screens on the phone itself. it uses a 20 digit key pad. I am having a problem with mine that I am not sure about regarding it's mic. I hope I can get assistance here. thanks -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000801da489d%24febc4e70%249801a8c0%40Vulcan2HP. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/60728905-0ED7-46D3-8E2F-C0C9F56FDB32%40gmail.com.
