Re: Braille display commands with iPhone XS

2018-12-17 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
That sounds like a good explanation!

> On 17 Dec 2018, at 13:21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I cannot recall any braille display that would wake a phone up once it had 
> gone to sleep.
> I've used three different braille displays with iPhones.
> 
> I suspect it is because VoiceOver is also asleep when the phone is and since 
> the braille displays need VoiceOver active in order to function, it makes 
> perfect sense to me.
> While bluetooth QWERTY keyboards do wake up devices since they do not need 
> VoiceOver on in order to function.
> 
> Richard
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 4:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Braille display commands with iPhone XS
> 
> I’d agree that many of us would assume that pressing any key on the Braille 
> display would wake the screen - but, as Richard said, in reality once the 
> iPhone XS screen goes to sleep, the Orbit 20 keys do nothing. Only tapping 
> the iPhone screen with a finger elicits a response. Hey, ho!
> Harry
> 
>> On 16 Dec 2018, at 20:00, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>> 
>> You should be able to press any key to wake the phone up.
>> 
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>>> On Dec 16, 2018, at 7:54 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Richard! I think I’ll also extend the time before screen locks - 
>>> I’m still a bit slow!
>>> Harry
>>> 
>>>> On 16 Dec 2018, at 12:40, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> As far as I know, you have to manually unlock the phone before the braille 
>>>> display can communicate with the phone.
>>>> If you have a passcode, once the phone is awake, you may be able to enter 
>>>> the passcode.
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really 
>>>> good books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 16, 2018, at 4:31 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone know what Braille display command works to wake up iPhone XS 
>>>>> when its screen has gone to sleep? And which command to go from lock 
>>>>> screen to Home screen?
>>>>> I’m using Orbit 20 with iPhone XS iOS 12.1.1 Thanks Harry
>>>>> 
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RE: Braille display commands with iPhone XS

2018-12-17 Thread Richard Turner
I cannot recall any braille display that would wake a phone up once it had gone 
to sleep.
I've used three different braille displays with iPhones.

I suspect it is because VoiceOver is also asleep when the phone is and since 
the braille displays need VoiceOver active in order to function, it makes 
perfect sense to me.
While bluetooth QWERTY keyboards do wake up devices since they do not need 
VoiceOver on in order to function.

Richard

Richard


-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille display commands with iPhone XS

I’d agree that many of us would assume that pressing any key on the Braille 
display would wake the screen - but, as Richard said, in reality once the 
iPhone XS screen goes to sleep, the Orbit 20 keys do nothing. Only tapping the 
iPhone screen with a finger elicits a response. Hey, ho!
Harry

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 20:00, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> You should be able to press any key to wake the phone up.
> 
> Maria Reyes
> blindt...@gmail.com
> my group: blind-techies+subscr...@groups.io
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2018, at 7:54 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Richard! I think I’ll also extend the time before screen locks - I’m 
>> still a bit slow!
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On 16 Dec 2018, at 12:40, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As far as I know, you have to manually unlock the phone before the braille 
>>> display can communicate with the phone.
>>> If you have a passcode, once the phone is awake, you may be able to enter 
>>> the passcode.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really 
>>> good books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 16, 2018, at 4:31 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know what Braille display command works to wake up iPhone XS 
>>>> when its screen has gone to sleep? And which command to go from lock 
>>>> screen to Home screen?
>>>> I’m using Orbit 20 with iPhone XS iOS 12.1.1 Thanks Harry
>>>> 
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Re: Braille display commands with iPhone XS

2018-12-17 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
I’d agree that many of us would assume that pressing any key on the Braille 
display would wake the screen - but, as Richard said, in reality once the 
iPhone XS screen goes to sleep, the Orbit 20 keys do nothing. Only tapping the 
iPhone screen with a finger elicits a response. Hey, ho!
Harry

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 20:00, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> You should be able to press any key to wake the phone up.
> 
> Maria Reyes
> blindt...@gmail.com
> my group: blind-techies+subscr...@groups.io
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2018, at 7:54 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Richard! I think I’ll also extend the time before screen locks - I’m 
>> still a bit slow!
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On 16 Dec 2018, at 12:40, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As far as I know, you have to manually unlock the phone before the braille 
>>> display can communicate with the phone.
>>> If you have a passcode, once the phone is awake, you may be able to enter 
>>> the passcode.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
>>> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>>> 
 On Dec 16, 2018, at 4:31 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
 
 Does anyone know what Braille display command works to wake up iPhone XS 
 when its screen has gone to sleep? And which command to go from lock 
 screen to Home screen?
 I’m using Orbit 20 with iPhone XS iOS 12.1.1
 Thanks
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Re: Braille display commands with iPhone XS

2018-12-16 Thread Maria Reyes
You should be able to press any key to wake the phone up.

Maria Reyes
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> On Dec 16, 2018, at 7:54 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Richard! I think I’ll also extend the time before screen locks - I’m 
> still a bit slow!
> Harry
> 
>> On 16 Dec 2018, at 12:40, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> As far as I know, you have to manually unlock the phone before the braille 
>> display can communicate with the phone.
>> If you have a passcode, once the phone is awake, you may be able to enter 
>> the passcode.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
>> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2018, at 4:31 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know what Braille display command works to wake up iPhone XS 
>>> when its screen has gone to sleep? And which command to go from lock screen 
>>> to Home screen?
>>> I’m using Orbit 20 with iPhone XS iOS 12.1.1
>>> Thanks
>>> Harry
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Re: Braille display commands with iPhone XS

2018-12-16 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
Thanks, Richard! I think I’ll also extend the time before screen locks - I’m 
still a bit slow!
Harry

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 12:40, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> As far as I know, you have to manually unlock the phone before the braille 
> display can communicate with the phone.
> If you have a passcode, once the phone is awake, you may be able to enter the 
> passcode.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2018, at 4:31 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone know what Braille display command works to wake up iPhone XS 
>> when its screen has gone to sleep? And which command to go from lock screen 
>> to Home screen?
>> I’m using Orbit 20 with iPhone XS iOS 12.1.1
>> Thanks
>> Harry
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Re: Braille display commands with iPhone XS

2018-12-16 Thread Richard Turner


As far as I know, you have to manually unlock the phone before the braille 
display can communicate with the phone.
If you have a passcode, once the phone is awake, you may be able to enter the 
passcode.
Richard



"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 

> On Dec 16, 2018, at 4:31 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know what Braille display command works to wake up iPhone XS when 
> its screen has gone to sleep? And which command to go from lock screen to 
> Home screen?
> I’m using Orbit 20 with iPhone XS iOS 12.1.1
> Thanks
> Harry
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