Re: New iPhones

2016-09-07 Thread Donna 
Apple's keynote aired on apples website at 1:00pm EST & 10:00am PST. 

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RE: New iPhones

2016-09-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
It took place from 10 AM to Noon Pacific time live. You'll have to wait until 
later tonight or tomorrow until the recorded version is available online or 
with the Apple Events podcast.


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I thought the new iPhones were being announced today. If they are, where is the 
Apple Keynote?:

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Re: New iPhones

2015-08-29 Thread 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
They get around it same as they did with 16bit registers, they use 2.
Certainly, using 64bit registers should keep them occupied for a while. But it 
isn't just addressing,  it is data throughput, too. I 
heard of a Cisco router that used 1024bit registers, so it could click a whole 
data packet through at one click.
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Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: New iPhones


The addressing limitation for a 32-bit operating system is 4GB. The math
bears this out, e.g. 2^32 is 4 GiB. The operating system may also need
to address and use some of this space for it's own use, such as device
drivers, graphics memory and so on, which means not all of that 4GB may
be available to the applications running on that platform, but the
limitation itself still goes back to a 32-bit system only being able to
directly address 4 GiB.

I'm not sure if Windows ever used this in it's operating systems, but
Linux supported PAE, which allows a 32-bit Linux kernel to indirectly
address more than 4GB of memory.

On 08/28/2015 09:52 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Hi Brent,

 The 4 Gb limitation, it's actually 3 Gb for 32 bit processors in a PC is a 
 Windows thing. It is my understanding that it's almost 
 a given that the new iPhones this year get a memory boost from 1 gb to 2 Gb 
 and I'm sure that makes quite a bit of a difference 
 for certain apps, but how efficiently an operating system is and uses 
 available resources is entirely up to the maker of said 
 operating system.

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Brent Harding
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 5:22 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: New iPhones

 I always thought that most of what 64-bit did was to lift the limit on a 
 system to only have 4 gb of ram usable. I don't think 
 most phones are approaching that yet. I think Apple could've chosen this 
 route to differentiate themself from others, and for 
 other kinds of features they were able to have in these new processors that 
 do increase speed, but 64-bit kind of comes along with 
 it.

 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 6:35 AM
 Subject: Re: New iPhones


 I wonder what the poor little 32-bit processor did to you to make you
 wish for it's demise so much. For me, it was a great little processor in
 it's day, and I still use it on my iPhone 4S. My understanding is that
 IOS 9 will still support the iPhone 4S and the 32-bit processor. I
 figured Apple would move on from the 32-bit processor entirely some day,
 but I'm not so sure it wouldn't have been a good business model for
 Apple to keep it around and compete in the lower end smart phone market.
 I kind of wondered if Apple was going this direction when they re
 factored IOS to perform better on low end devices. I guess that was just
 done for the Apple Watch. Hmm, I wonder what processor the Apple Watch
 is running? Either way, the 32-bit processor did nothing but good things
 for me, so I'm not doing a little happy dance because it's going away.

 On 08/28/2015 02:02 AM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
 Hi all
 If what I read on Mac Daily News about the lack of an iPhone 6C plus the
 discontinuation of the 5C is true, this year will be a very significant
 year for iPhone owners. Why? All iPhones from the 5s up are 64 bit.
 Theoretically, this means 32 bit is dead as far as the iPhone is
 concerned. To my knowledge, 32 bit is dead throughout the iOS device range
 as even the new iPod Touch is now 64 bit. I say good riddance to 32 bit!
 RIP.



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Re: New iPhones

2015-08-28 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
I wonder what the poor little 32-bit processor did to you to make you 
wish for it's demise so much. For me, it was a great little processor in 
it's day, and I still use it on my iPhone 4S. My understanding is that 
IOS 9 will still support the iPhone 4S and the 32-bit processor. I 
figured Apple would move on from the 32-bit processor entirely some day, 
but I'm not so sure it wouldn't have been a good business model for 
Apple to keep it around and compete in the lower end smart phone market. 
I kind of wondered if Apple was going this direction when they re 
factored IOS to perform better on low end devices. I guess that was just 
done for the Apple Watch. Hmm, I wonder what processor the Apple Watch 
is running? Either way, the 32-bit processor did nothing but good things 
for me, so I'm not doing a little happy dance because it's going away.


On 08/28/2015 02:02 AM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

Hi all
If what I read on Mac Daily News about the lack of an iPhone 6C plus the 
discontinuation of the 5C is true, this year will be a very significant year 
for iPhone owners. Why? All iPhones from the 5s up are 64 bit. Theoretically, 
this means 32 bit is dead as far as the iPhone is concerned. To my knowledge, 
32 bit is dead throughout the iOS device range as even the new iPod Touch is 
now 64 bit. I say good riddance to 32 bit! RIP.



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Re: New iPhones

2015-08-28 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
64-bit will do more than just allow you to address more than 4G of 
memory. You have twice the bandwidth to send data between processes and 
threads, so assuming your applications take advantage of it, it will 
result in greater performance.


On 08/28/2015 07:21 AM, Brent Harding wrote:

I always thought that most of what 64-bit did was to lift the limit on a
system to only have 4 gb of ram usable. I don't think most phones are
approaching that yet. I think Apple could've chosen this route to
differentiate themself from others, and for other kinds of features they
were able to have in these new processors that do increase speed, but
64-bit kind of comes along with it.

- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: New iPhones


I wonder what the poor little 32-bit processor did to you to make you
wish for it's demise so much. For me, it was a great little processor in
it's day, and I still use it on my iPhone 4S. My understanding is that
IOS 9 will still support the iPhone 4S and the 32-bit processor. I
figured Apple would move on from the 32-bit processor entirely some day,
but I'm not so sure it wouldn't have been a good business model for
Apple to keep it around and compete in the lower end smart phone market.
I kind of wondered if Apple was going this direction when they re
factored IOS to perform better on low end devices. I guess that was just
done for the Apple Watch. Hmm, I wonder what processor the Apple Watch
is running? Either way, the 32-bit processor did nothing but good things
for me, so I'm not doing a little happy dance because it's going away.

On 08/28/2015 02:02 AM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

Hi all
If what I read on Mac Daily News about the lack of an iPhone 6C plus
the discontinuation of the 5C is true, this year will be a very
significant year for iPhone owners. Why? All iPhones from the 5s up
are 64 bit. Theoretically, this means 32 bit is dead as far as the
iPhone is concerned. To my knowledge, 32 bit is dead throughout the
iOS device range as even the new iPod Touch is now 64 bit. I say good
riddance to 32 bit! RIP.





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Re: New iPhones

2015-08-28 Thread Brent Harding 
I always thought that most of what 64-bit did was to lift the limit on a 
system to only have 4 gb of ram usable. I don't think most phones are 
approaching that yet. I think Apple could've chosen this route to 
differentiate themself from others, and for other kinds of features they 
were able to have in these new processors that do increase speed, but 64-bit 
kind of comes along with it.


- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: New iPhones


I wonder what the poor little 32-bit processor did to you to make you
wish for it's demise so much. For me, it was a great little processor in
it's day, and I still use it on my iPhone 4S. My understanding is that
IOS 9 will still support the iPhone 4S and the 32-bit processor. I
figured Apple would move on from the 32-bit processor entirely some day,
but I'm not so sure it wouldn't have been a good business model for
Apple to keep it around and compete in the lower end smart phone market.
I kind of wondered if Apple was going this direction when they re
factored IOS to perform better on low end devices. I guess that was just
done for the Apple Watch. Hmm, I wonder what processor the Apple Watch
is running? Either way, the 32-bit processor did nothing but good things
for me, so I'm not doing a little happy dance because it's going away.

On 08/28/2015 02:02 AM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

Hi all
If what I read on Mac Daily News about the lack of an iPhone 6C plus the 
discontinuation of the 5C is true, this year will be a very significant 
year for iPhone owners. Why? All iPhones from the 5s up are 64 bit. 
Theoretically, this means 32 bit is dead as far as the iPhone is 
concerned. To my knowledge, 32 bit is dead throughout the iOS device range 
as even the new iPod Touch is now 64 bit. I say good riddance to 32 bit! 
RIP.




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RE: New iPhones

2015-08-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Brent,

The 4 Gb limitation, it's actually 3 Gb for 32 bit processors in a PC is a 
Windows thing. It is my understanding that it's almost a given that the new 
iPhones this year get a memory boost from 1 gb to 2 Gb and I'm sure that makes 
quite a bit of a difference for certain apps, but how efficiently an operating 
system is and uses available resources is entirely up to the maker of said 
operating system.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brent Harding
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhones

I always thought that most of what 64-bit did was to lift the limit on a system 
to only have 4 gb of ram usable. I don't think most phones are approaching that 
yet. I think Apple could've chosen this route to differentiate themself from 
others, and for other kinds of features they were able to have in these new 
processors that do increase speed, but 64-bit kind of comes along with it.

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: New iPhones


I wonder what the poor little 32-bit processor did to you to make you
wish for it's demise so much. For me, it was a great little processor in
it's day, and I still use it on my iPhone 4S. My understanding is that
IOS 9 will still support the iPhone 4S and the 32-bit processor. I
figured Apple would move on from the 32-bit processor entirely some day,
but I'm not so sure it wouldn't have been a good business model for
Apple to keep it around and compete in the lower end smart phone market.
I kind of wondered if Apple was going this direction when they re
factored IOS to perform better on low end devices. I guess that was just
done for the Apple Watch. Hmm, I wonder what processor the Apple Watch
is running? Either way, the 32-bit processor did nothing but good things
for me, so I'm not doing a little happy dance because it's going away.

On 08/28/2015 02:02 AM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
 Hi all
 If what I read on Mac Daily News about the lack of an iPhone 6C plus the 
 discontinuation of the 5C is true, this year will be a very significant 
 year for iPhone owners. Why? All iPhones from the 5s up are 64 bit. 
 Theoretically, this means 32 bit is dead as far as the iPhone is 
 concerned. To my knowledge, 32 bit is dead throughout the iOS device range 
 as even the new iPod Touch is now 64 bit. I say good riddance to 32 bit! 
 RIP.


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RE: New iPhones

2015-08-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Christopher,

I don't necessarily think the fact that all iPhones are now 64 Bit is a 
particular reason for a party, of course these things go the way of progress. 
My first 386 PC with 640 K of RAM and a 70 Megabyte hard drive complete with 
3.5 inch and 5.25 inch floppy drive also did good things for me, but that is 
just the way of technology.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 4:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhones

I wonder what the poor little 32-bit processor did to you to make you 
wish for it's demise so much. For me, it was a great little processor in 
it's day, and I still use it on my iPhone 4S. My understanding is that 
IOS 9 will still support the iPhone 4S and the 32-bit processor. I 
figured Apple would move on from the 32-bit processor entirely some day, 
but I'm not so sure it wouldn't have been a good business model for 
Apple to keep it around and compete in the lower end smart phone market. 
I kind of wondered if Apple was going this direction when they re 
factored IOS to perform better on low end devices. I guess that was just 
done for the Apple Watch. Hmm, I wonder what processor the Apple Watch 
is running? Either way, the 32-bit processor did nothing but good things 
for me, so I'm not doing a little happy dance because it's going away.

On 08/28/2015 02:02 AM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
 Hi all
 If what I read on Mac Daily News about the lack of an iPhone 6C plus the 
 discontinuation of the 5C is true, this year will be a very significant year 
 for iPhone owners. Why? All iPhones from the 5s up are 64 bit. Theoretically, 
 this means 32 bit is dead as far as the iPhone is concerned. To my knowledge, 
 32 bit is dead throughout the iOS device range as even the new iPod Touch is 
 now 64 bit. I say good riddance to 32 bit! RIP.


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Re: New iPhones

2015-08-28 Thread Dave 

I agree!

Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhones

Hi Christopher,

I don't necessarily think the fact that all iPhones are now 64 Bit is a 
particular reason for a party, of course these things go the way of 
progress. My first 386 PC with 640 K of RAM and a 70 Megabyte hard drive 
complete with 3.5 inch and 5.25 inch floppy drive also did good things for 
me, but that is just the way of technology.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 4:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhones

I wonder what the poor little 32-bit processor did to you to make you
wish for it's demise so much. For me, it was a great little processor in
it's day, and I still use it on my iPhone 4S. My understanding is that
IOS 9 will still support the iPhone 4S and the 32-bit processor. I
figured Apple would move on from the 32-bit processor entirely some day,
but I'm not so sure it wouldn't have been a good business model for
Apple to keep it around and compete in the lower end smart phone market.
I kind of wondered if Apple was going this direction when they re
factored IOS to perform better on low end devices. I guess that was just
done for the Apple Watch. Hmm, I wonder what processor the Apple Watch
is running? Either way, the 32-bit processor did nothing but good things
for me, so I'm not doing a little happy dance because it's going away.

On 08/28/2015 02:02 AM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

Hi all
If what I read on Mac Daily News about the lack of an iPhone 6C plus the 
discontinuation of the 5C is true, this year will be a very significant 
year for iPhone owners. Why? All iPhones from the 5s up are 64 bit. 
Theoretically, this means 32 bit is dead as far as the iPhone is 
concerned. To my knowledge, 32 bit is dead throughout the iOS device range 
as even the new iPod Touch is now 64 bit. I say good riddance to 32 bit! 
RIP.




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Re: New iPhones

2015-08-28 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
The addressing limitation for a 32-bit operating system is 4GB. The math 
bears this out, e.g. 2^32 is 4 GiB. The operating system may also need 
to address and use some of this space for it's own use, such as device 
drivers, graphics memory and so on, which means not all of that 4GB may 
be available to the applications running on that platform, but the 
limitation itself still goes back to a 32-bit system only being able to 
directly address 4 GiB.


I'm not sure if Windows ever used this in it's operating systems, but 
Linux supported PAE, which allows a 32-bit Linux kernel to indirectly 
address more than 4GB of memory.


On 08/28/2015 09:52 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Brent,

The 4 Gb limitation, it's actually 3 Gb for 32 bit processors in a PC is a 
Windows thing. It is my understanding that it's almost a given that the new 
iPhones this year get a memory boost from 1 gb to 2 Gb and I'm sure that makes 
quite a bit of a difference for certain apps, but how efficiently an operating 
system is and uses available resources is entirely up to the maker of said 
operating system.

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I always thought that most of what 64-bit did was to lift the limit on a system 
to only have 4 gb of ram usable. I don't think most phones are approaching that 
yet. I think Apple could've chosen this route to differentiate themself from 
others, and for other kinds of features they were able to have in these new 
processors that do increase speed, but 64-bit kind of comes along with it.

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I wonder what the poor little 32-bit processor did to you to make you
wish for it's demise so much. For me, it was a great little processor in
it's day, and I still use it on my iPhone 4S. My understanding is that
IOS 9 will still support the iPhone 4S and the 32-bit processor. I
figured Apple would move on from the 32-bit processor entirely some day,
but I'm not so sure it wouldn't have been a good business model for
Apple to keep it around and compete in the lower end smart phone market.
I kind of wondered if Apple was going this direction when they re
factored IOS to perform better on low end devices. I guess that was just
done for the Apple Watch. Hmm, I wonder what processor the Apple Watch
is running? Either way, the 32-bit processor did nothing but good things
for me, so I'm not doing a little happy dance because it's going away.

On 08/28/2015 02:02 AM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

Hi all
If what I read on Mac Daily News about the lack of an iPhone 6C plus the
discontinuation of the 5C is true, this year will be a very significant
year for iPhone owners. Why? All iPhones from the 5s up are 64 bit.
Theoretically, this means 32 bit is dead as far as the iPhone is
concerned. To my knowledge, 32 bit is dead throughout the iOS device range
as even the new iPod Touch is now 64 bit. I say good riddance to 32 bit!
RIP.





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Re: New Iphones

2013-09-07 Thread Fred Olver 
Apple's event will be on Tuesday, although the phones may not be available 
until around the 20th of the month.


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  Do we know for sure if the new Iphones will be coming out Tuesday?

  Last I heard it was rumour, so, want to make sure if this was indeed true or 
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RE: New Iphones

2013-09-07 Thread Ron Pelletier 
Hi,

 

It probably will be announced on Tuesday but it certainly will not be out.

 

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Do we know for sure if the new Iphones will be coming out Tuesday?

Last I heard it was rumour, so, want to make sure if this was indeed true or
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Re: New Iphones

2013-09-07 Thread Steve 
No, the iPhone is not coming out on Tuesday; information on it will be on 
Tuesday.  It won't actually be out until probably toward the end of the 
month.
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Re: New Iphones

2013-09-07 Thread Alan Paganelli 
Apple is making an announcement on Tuesday.  It has been reported according to 
iPhone Life magazine that ATT has told all it's ATTT store employees that 
nobody gets the weekend of September 20ith off.  Because of that, many people 
myself included believe that this coming Tuesday's announcement by Apple will 
say that they will come out with 2 new iPhones.  The what people are calling 
the iPhone 5S which is suppose to have a finger print reader where the home key 
is.  I think this likely as the iPhone is the most stolen phone around.  It is 
also said that they will also come out with a cheaper iPhone supposedly called 
the 5C.  Cheaper parts etc but still an iPhone.

That should bring you up to date on the scuttlebutt.
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