Solved: RE: On-screen keyboard disappears or fails to appear

2021-10-17 Thread Richard Turner 
When I got home yesterday, and continued to have the mysterious problem of my 
phone seeming to think it was connected to an external keyboard, I triple 
checked that my Bluetooth keyboard was not on, then turned it on and it worked 
fine with the phone, turned it off, but the onscreen keyboard still would not 
appear and I would hear the tones like I was toggling QuickNav.
So, I went into the Bluetooth settings and deleted the keyboard.
Then, the onscreen keyboard worked like it always had worked.

I then paired my Bluetooth keyboard again, and all is working well.
If the keyboard is connected, it takes over, if it is not connected, the 
onscreen keyboard works perfectly.

I think right before we left for a few days I had tried to use the hide/show 
the onscreen keyboard command that someone had given for keyboards without a 
designated key.  I think it scrambled the brains of the Bluetooth connection 
and made the phone think the keyboard was connected when it was not.

I will stick with simply switching off the keyboard when I want to use the 
onscreen keyboard.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

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Turner
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 4:01 PM
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Subject: Re: On-screen keyboard disappears or fails to appear

I know this can happen when the keyboard is in bluetooth range ... however both 
my braille display and my keyboard are 90 miles away right now.



Richard
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On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:00 PM, 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
 I know that this also can happen if you use a bluetooth keyboard as well.


On Oct 15, 2021, at 17:40, Anna Dresner 
mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:

Hi Richard,

Do you sometimes use a braille display? If so, connect it and bring up an edit 
field. Then on the display, press Space with 146 (the SH symbol for Show/Hide). 
This should reveal the keyboard. Then turn off the display. the keyboard should 
remain.

I also suggest going into VoiceOver Settings, choosing Braille, and setting it 
to always show the onscreen keyboard.

HTH,
Anna



On Oct 15, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I could use a flash of brilliance about now from someone who can intuit what 
the heck I did to settings.
Yesterday, and now today, whenever I bring up an edit box as in writing an 
email, replying to an email, trying to do a web search, etc., I hear the sound 
that gos with QuickNav, or used to. But, I have QuickNav set to speak in the 
verbosity settings; and there is no external keyboard connected.
But, when I hit reply, compose, etc., and touch where the keyboard should be I 
hear the sound that seems like the toggle of quick nav, and there is no 
keyboard.
I'm going to call Apple Accessibility and have them do a screen share if 
someone doesn't already know what setting I messed up to cause this.
Thanks,


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
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Re: On-screen keyboard disappears or fails to appear

2021-10-15 Thread Richard Turner 
I know this can happen when the keyboard is in bluetooth range ... however both 
my braille display and my keyboard are 90 miles away right now.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:00 PM, 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

 I know that this also can happen if you use a bluetooth keyboard as well.

On Oct 15, 2021, at 17:40, Anna Dresner 
mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:

Hi Richard,

Do you sometimes use a braille display? If so, connect it and bring up an edit 
field. Then on the display, press Space with 146 (the SH symbol for Show/Hide). 
This should reveal the keyboard. Then turn off the display. the keyboard should 
remain.

I also suggest going into VoiceOver Settings, choosing Braille, and setting it 
to always show the onscreen keyboard.

HTH,
Anna


On Oct 15, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I could use a flash of brilliance about now from someone who can intuit what 
the heck I did to settings.
Yesterday, and now today, whenever I bring up an edit box as in writing an 
email, replying to an email, trying to do a web search, etc., I hear the sound 
that gos with QuickNav, or used to. But, I have QuickNav set to speak in the 
verbosity settings; and there is no external keyboard connected.
But, when I hit reply, compose, etc., and touch where the keyboard should be I 
hear the sound that seems like the toggle of quick nav, and there is no 
keyboard.
I'm going to call Apple Accessibility and have them do a screen share if 
someone doesn't already know what setting I messed up to cause this.
Thanks,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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Re: On-screen keyboard disappears or fails to appear

2021-10-15 Thread 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone 
I know that this also can happen if you use a bluetooth keyboard as well. 

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 17:40, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> Do you sometimes use a braille display? If so, connect it and bring up an 
> edit field. Then on the display, press Space with 146 (the SH symbol for 
> Show/Hide). This should reveal the keyboard. Then turn off the display. the 
> keyboard should remain.
> 
> I also suggest going into VoiceOver Settings, choosing Braille, and setting 
> it to always show the onscreen keyboard.
> 
> HTH,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Richard Turner > > wrote:
>> 
>> I could use a flash of brilliance about now from someone who can intuit what 
>> the heck I did to settings.
>> Yesterday, and now today, whenever I bring up an edit box as in writing an 
>> email, replying to an email, trying to do a web search, etc., I hear the 
>> sound that gos with QuickNav, or used to. But, I have QuickNav set to speak 
>> in the verbosity settings; and there is no external keyboard connected.
>> But, when I hit reply, compose, etc., and touch where the keyboard should be 
>> I hear the sound that seems like the toggle of quick nav, and there is no 
>> keyboard.
>> I'm going to call Apple Accessibility and have them do a screen share if 
>> someone doesn't already know what setting I messed up to cause this.
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> -- Jane Wagner 
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Re: On-screen keyboard disappears or fails to appear

2021-10-15 Thread Richard Turner 
Well, It is kind of working again for some reason.
But, I already have the braille display setting to show onscreen keyboard; but 
I'm away from home and did not bring it with me.
But, like I say; it is working right now, though it still plays the sound like 
QuickNav is involved.
very strange.



Richard
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Jane Wagner





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On Oct 15, 2021, at 2:41 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

 Hi Richard,

Do you sometimes use a braille display? If so, connect it and bring up an edit 
field. Then on the display, press Space with 146 (the SH symbol for Show/Hide). 
This should reveal the keyboard. Then turn off the display. the keyboard should 
remain.

I also suggest going into VoiceOver Settings, choosing Braille, and setting it 
to always show the onscreen keyboard.

HTH,
Anna


On Oct 15, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I could use a flash of brilliance about now from someone who can intuit what 
the heck I did to settings.
Yesterday, and now today, whenever I bring up an edit box as in writing an 
email, replying to an email, trying to do a web search, etc., I hear the sound 
that gos with QuickNav, or used to. But, I have QuickNav set to speak in the 
verbosity settings; and there is no external keyboard connected.
But, when I hit reply, compose, etc., and touch where the keyboard should be I 
hear the sound that seems like the toggle of quick nav, and there is no 
keyboard.
I'm going to call Apple Accessibility and have them do a screen share if 
someone doesn't already know what setting I messed up to cause this.
Thanks,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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Re: On-screen keyboard disappears or fails to appear

2021-10-15 Thread Anna Dresner 
Hi Richard,

Do you sometimes use a braille display? If so, connect it and bring up an edit 
field. Then on the display, press Space with 146 (the SH symbol for Show/Hide). 
This should reveal the keyboard. Then turn off the display. the keyboard should 
remain.

I also suggest going into VoiceOver Settings, choosing Braille, and setting it 
to always show the onscreen keyboard.

HTH,
Anna


> On Oct 15, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I could use a flash of brilliance about now from someone who can intuit what 
> the heck I did to settings.
> Yesterday, and now today, whenever I bring up an edit box as in writing an 
> email, replying to an email, trying to do a web search, etc., I hear the 
> sound that gos with QuickNav, or used to. But, I have QuickNav set to speak 
> in the verbosity settings; and there is no external keyboard connected.
> But, when I hit reply, compose, etc., and touch where the keyboard should be 
> I hear the sound that seems like the toggle of quick nav, and there is no 
> keyboard.
> I'm going to call Apple Accessibility and have them do a screen share if 
> someone doesn't already know what setting I messed up to cause this.
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
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>   
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