Recording Phone calls, was: I recorded A Call With List Recorder

2013-07-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello,

I had a look at your 2 app suggestions, Call Recorder - phone calls 
recorder by William Wood and TapeACall Lite - Record Calls by
Epic Enterprises. Here are my thoughts:

First, Apple does not allow the recording of phone calls because in many
jurisdictions it is illegal to do that. Now, the fact that List Recorder and
there are a few other apps that can do this, can record a call that is in
progress on the speakerphone is a fluke and if Apple was told about it they
would pull these apps until the developers would disable this capability.

As for the 2 apps you mentioned: Call Recorder is a VoIP app and that
changes the game. Just about any VoIP app I know of has a recording
function. This means you can make calls with the app via VoIP and record
these calls. While I didn't see it in the app description, I wouldn't be at
all surprised if there was some sort of notification or beep after you start
recording, but the fact is that this would not work for incoming calls since
there is no mention that the Call Recorder VoIP service provides an inbound
number. I also didn't take a look at their rates, but they do state that
after whatever trial credit they give you, you have to buy minutes from them
and of course you have to place your call via WiFi or 3G/KLTE, the latter
will use up cellular data.

Tape A Call is like any other call recorder app out there, it records calls
using a server and 3-way calling. Here is what it says in the app
description:

How does this app record calls? 

When you're on a call and you want to record it, open TapeACall and press
the record button. We will put your call on hold and dial our recording
line. As soon as our line answers tap the merge button on your screen to
create a 3 way call between your other caller and our recording line. 

If you want to record an outgoing call, just press the record button. The
app will dial our recording line and will begin recording as soon as our
line answers. Once that happens, tap the add call button on your screen,
call the person you want to record, then press the merge button when they
answer. 

The say we will dial our recording line which means you are possibly
dialing a long distance number. Most of such services require a
subscription. Tape a Call says that with their Pro app which is $10 you do
not have to pay any subscriptions which I guess could be a good thing if you
really need to frequently record calls, but it's not a smooth process, i.e.
if you receive a call and want to record it, you will have to let the other
person know, bring up the app, tap on Record and wait for the app to dial
the recording line/server, then merge the calls which requires that you have
3-way calling as a feature from your provider.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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I think I found another application which probably works much better! It's
called Tape A Call 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tapeacall-lite-record-calls/id573751328?mt=8

This app is free however the Pro version is  ten bucks! 

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Re: Recording Phone calls, was: I recorded A Call With List Recorder

2013-07-28 Thread Aman Singer
Hi.
If I may add to what Sieghard has said, those call-recording solutions which 
use three-way calling are not usually worth the money. Keep in mind that you 
can set up such a system with nothing more than a small amount of technical 
knowledge and a cheap Skype or VOIP number. This allows you to keep the call 
recordings under your own control on your own systems. It also allows you to 
act on the recordings, that is, to have them emailed when done, to have them 
posted to a site or cloud storage service, to have links SMSed to them, etc. 
Finally, it allows you to dispense with notifications if your jurisdiction is 
one where notifications of recording are not legally required.
It may also be worth noting that you can set up a VOIP pBX so that every call 
you make or receive is recorded, whether in or out. 
I hope that's of use.
Aman


On 2013-07-28, at 3:46 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I had a look at your 2 app suggestions, Call Recorder - phone calls 
 recorder by William Wood and TapeACall Lite - Record Calls by
 Epic Enterprises. Here are my thoughts:
 
 First, Apple does not allow the recording of phone calls because in many
 jurisdictions it is illegal to do that. Now, the fact that List Recorder and
 there are a few other apps that can do this, can record a call that is in
 progress on the speakerphone is a fluke and if Apple was told about it they
 would pull these apps until the developers would disable this capability.
 
 As for the 2 apps you mentioned: Call Recorder is a VoIP app and that
 changes the game. Just about any VoIP app I know of has a recording
 function. This means you can make calls with the app via VoIP and record
 these calls. While I didn't see it in the app description, I wouldn't be at
 all surprised if there was some sort of notification or beep after you start
 recording, but the fact is that this would not work for incoming calls since
 there is no mention that the Call Recorder VoIP service provides an inbound
 number. I also didn't take a look at their rates, but they do state that
 after whatever trial credit they give you, you have to buy minutes from them
 and of course you have to place your call via WiFi or 3G/KLTE, the latter
 will use up cellular data.
 
 Tape A Call is like any other call recorder app out there, it records calls
 using a server and 3-way calling. Here is what it says in the app
 description:
 
 How does this app record calls? 
 
 When you're on a call and you want to record it, open TapeACall and press
 the record button. We will put your call on hold and dial our recording
 line. As soon as our line answers tap the merge button on your screen to
 create a 3 way call between your other caller and our recording line. 
 
 If you want to record an outgoing call, just press the record button. The
 app will dial our recording line and will begin recording as soon as our
 line answers. Once that happens, tap the add call button on your screen,
 call the person you want to record, then press the merge button when they
 answer. 
 
 The say we will dial our recording line which means you are possibly
 dialing a long distance number. Most of such services require a
 subscription. Tape a Call says that with their Pro app which is $10 you do
 not have to pay any subscriptions which I guess could be a good thing if you
 really need to frequently record calls, but it's not a smooth process, i.e.
 if you receive a call and want to record it, you will have to let the other
 person know, bring up the app, tap on Record and wait for the app to dial
 the recording line/server, then merge the calls which requires that you have
 3-way calling as a feature from your provider.
 
 
 Best regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of AppleGourmet
 Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:52 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: I recorded A Call With List Recorder
 
 I think I found another application which probably works much better! It's
 called Tape A Call 
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tapeacall-lite-record-calls/id573751328?mt=8
 
 This app is free however the Pro version is  ten bucks! 
 
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Re: Recording Phone calls, was: I recorded A Call With List Recorder

2013-07-28 Thread Lea Langley
Hi, if you don't mind sharing your knowledge, how would we go about setting 
these things up? I am totally new to this, and I prefer your ways and 
appreciate what you and Seegert said. I do not want to dial a server to record 
phone calls. So thank you for the information. God bless, wren PS. You can 
write me off list if you would like. Thank you very much.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2013, at 7:27 PM, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.
 If I may add to what Sieghard has said, those call-recording solutions which 
 use three-way calling are not usually worth the money. Keep in mind that you 
 can set up such a system with nothing more than a small amount of technical 
 knowledge and a cheap Skype or VOIP number. This allows you to keep the call 
 recordings under your own control on your own systems. It also allows you to 
 act on the recordings, that is, to have them emailed when done, to have them 
 posted to a site or cloud storage service, to have links SMSed to them, etc. 
 Finally, it allows you to dispense with notifications if your jurisdiction is 
 one where notifications of recording are not legally required.
 It may also be worth noting that you can set up a VOIP pBX so that every call 
 you make or receive is recorded, whether in or out. 
 I hope that's of use.
 Aman
 
 
 On 2013-07-28, at 3:46 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I had a look at your 2 app suggestions, Call Recorder - phone calls 
 recorder by William Wood and TapeACall Lite - Record Calls by
 Epic Enterprises. Here are my thoughts:
 
 First, Apple does not allow the recording of phone calls because in many
 jurisdictions it is illegal to do that. Now, the fact that List Recorder and
 there are a few other apps that can do this, can record a call that is in
 progress on the speakerphone is a fluke and if Apple was told about it they
 would pull these apps until the developers would disable this capability.
 
 As for the 2 apps you mentioned: Call Recorder is a VoIP app and that
 changes the game. Just about any VoIP app I know of has a recording
 function. This means you can make calls with the app via VoIP and record
 these calls. While I didn't see it in the app description, I wouldn't be at
 all surprised if there was some sort of notification or beep after you start
 recording, but the fact is that this would not work for incoming calls since
 there is no mention that the Call Recorder VoIP service provides an inbound
 number. I also didn't take a look at their rates, but they do state that
 after whatever trial credit they give you, you have to buy minutes from them
 and of course you have to place your call via WiFi or 3G/KLTE, the latter
 will use up cellular data.
 
 Tape A Call is like any other call recorder app out there, it records calls
 using a server and 3-way calling. Here is what it says in the app
 description:
 
 How does this app record calls? 
 
 When you're on a call and you want to record it, open TapeACall and press
 the record button. We will put your call on hold and dial our recording
 line. As soon as our line answers tap the merge button on your screen to
 create a 3 way call between your other caller and our recording line. 
 
 If you want to record an outgoing call, just press the record button. The
 app will dial our recording line and will begin recording as soon as our
 line answers. Once that happens, tap the add call button on your screen,
 call the person you want to record, then press the merge button when they
 answer. 
 
 The say we will dial our recording line which means you are possibly
 dialing a long distance number. Most of such services require a
 subscription. Tape a Call says that with their Pro app which is $10 you do
 not have to pay any subscriptions which I guess could be a good thing if you
 really need to frequently record calls, but it's not a smooth process, i.e.
 if you receive a call and want to record it, you will have to let the other
 person know, bring up the app, tap on Record and wait for the app to dial
 the recording line/server, then merge the calls which requires that you have
 3-way calling as a feature from your provider.
 
 
 Best regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of AppleGourmet
 Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:52 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: I recorded A Call With List Recorder
 
 I think I found another application which probably works much better! It's
 called Tape A Call 
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tapeacall-lite-record-calls/id573751328?mt=8
 
 This app is free however the Pro version is  ten bucks! 
 
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