RE: Request description of a problem and solution if any

[chaltain]

I haven’t found a significant use for it yet, but it is kind of interesting 
sometimes to hear about the pictures and icons you have on various screens. I 
was watching a video and I think I stumbled across it working with closed 
captioning. I could see where this would be useful to some people.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Request description of a problem and solution if any

 

I think what you heard about was the new VoiceOver Recognition which might be 
useful in isolated situations, but is currently mostly annoying. 

I turned it all off.

You can enable it and add it in the rotor to toggl: on and off but I prefer it 
off for now.

Here is what it says in settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, and VoiceOver 
Recognition:

 

 

VoiceOver Recognition

Using on-device intelligence, your iPhone will automatically improve the 
accessibility of apps, images, and text.

VoiceOver Recognition should not be relied upon in circumstances where you 
could be harmed or injured, in high-risk situations, for navigation, or for the 
diagnosis or treatment of any medical condition.

Image Descriptions

Off

Your iPhone will speak descriptions of images in apps and on the web.

 

Screen Recognition Off

Your iPhone will automatically make apps more accessible by recognizing items 
on the screen.

Text Recognition Off

Your iPhone will speak descriptions of text found in images.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Oct 5, 2020, at 10:01 PM, Donna Casteen mailto:mermaid71...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Donald,

 

I'm using an iPhone 7 & not experiencing the extra voiceover chatter. What 
people are describing; With certain voiceover voices, can't remember which 
ones, voiceover reads all punctuation, even though the settings is set to none. 
Selecting a different voiceover voice To use solves this problem. The other 
voiceover chatter problem can easily be solved by going to settings, 
accessibility, voiceover, audio & deselecting items that you do not want 
voiceover to speak or  deselecting sounds that you do not want played for 
certain actions. And the very rare voiceover bug that I'm having & have read 2 
other people with a similar voiceover problem. The word "send" is spoken before 
my wifi name in the status bar, before folder names & before each page of apps 
on my phone. At first this was very annoying. Now my ears mostly blocks out the 
unnecessary word. Unless there is a "must have" feature that you "really" need 
to use right now, I recommend that you not update until IOS 14.02 is released. 
I, as well as others, is experiencing a very bad lag in voiceover & reaction 
time when an item on the screen is touched or tapped. Some people are reporting 
bad battery drainage. Apple reported that the battery drain problem can be 
solved by erasing "all content in settings or resetting all settings, another 
words returning your device to manufacture   

 

 

 

Donna



Sorry for the somewhat vague subject line.  I tend to update IOS versions only 
after the update bugs and issues have been well discussed and evaluated.

 

After IOS 14 was released, there was some discussion of what was called 
excessive voiceover chattering.  Would someone please describe this more in 
detail, its likely cause, and what if anything can be done to either minimize 
it or eliminate it completely.  Frankly, until I learn more about this, I'll 
stick with 13.7.

 

Thanks.

 

Don Roberts

 

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RE: Request description of a problem and solution if any

[Simon A Fogarty]

So Richad,

Form this I take it
We shouldn’t use voiceover recognition to drive or perform neuro surgery?

That’s a shame,
I was carrying out a frontal lobotomy tomorrow on a person in a café!.

H well, I’ll go back to reading the writing on the pavements.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2020 7:19 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Request description of a problem and solution if any

I think what you heard about was the new VoiceOver Recognition which might be 
useful in isolated situations, but is currently mostly annoying.
I turned it all off.
You can enable it and add it in the rotor to toggl: on and off but I prefer it 
off for now.
Here is what it says in settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, and VoiceOver 
Recognition:


VoiceOver Recognition
Using on-device intelligence, your iPhone will automatically improve the 
accessibility of apps, images, and text.
VoiceOver Recognition should not be relied upon in circumstances where you 
could be harmed or injured, in high-risk situations, for navigation, or for the 
diagnosis or treatment of any medical condition.
Image Descriptions
Off
Your iPhone will speak descriptions of images in apps and on the web.

Screen Recognition Off
Your iPhone will automatically make apps more accessible by recognizing items 
on the screen.
Text Recognition Off
Your iPhone will speak descriptions of text found in images.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Oct 5, 2020, at 10:01 PM, Donna Casteen 
mailto:mermaid71...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Donald,

I'm using an iPhone 7 & not experiencing the extra voiceover chatter. What 
people are describing; With certain voiceover voices, can't remember which 
ones, voiceover reads all punctuation, even though the settings is set to none. 
Selecting a different voiceover voice To use solves this problem. The other 
voiceover chatter problem can easily be solved by going to settings, 
accessibility, voiceover, audio & deselecting items that you do not want 
voiceover to speak or  deselecting sounds that you do not want played for 
certain actions. And the very rare voiceover bug that I'm having & have read 2 
other people with a similar voiceover problem. The word "send" is spoken before 
my wifi name in the status bar, before folder names & before each page of apps 
on my phone. At first this was very annoying. Now my ears mostly blocks out the 
unnecessary word. Unless there is a "must have" feature that you "really" need 
to use right now, I recommend that you not update until IOS 14.02 is released. 
I, as well as others, is experiencing a very bad lag in voiceover & reaction 
time when an item on the screen is touched or tapped. Some people are reporting 
bad battery drainage. Apple reported that the battery drain problem can be 
solved by erasing "all content in settings or resetting all settings, another 
words returning your device to manufacture



Donna


Sorry for the somewhat vague subject line.  I tend to update IOS versions only 
after the update bugs and issues have been well discussed and evaluated.



After IOS 14 was released, there was some discussion of what was called 
excessive voiceover chattering.  Would someone please describe this more in 
detail, its likely cause, and what if anything can be done to either minimize 
it or eliminate it completely.  Frankly, until I learn more about this, I'll 
stick with 13.7.



Thanks.



Don Roberts


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Re: Request description of a problem and solution if any

[Richard Turner]

I think what you heard about was the new VoiceOver Recognition which might be 
useful in isolated situations, but is currently mostly annoying.
I turned it all off.
You can enable it and add it in the rotor to toggl: on and off but I prefer it 
off for now.
Here is what it says in settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, and VoiceOver 
Recognition:


VoiceOver Recognition
Using on-device intelligence, your iPhone will automatically improve the 
accessibility of apps, images, and text.
VoiceOver Recognition should not be relied upon in circumstances where you 
could be harmed or injured, in high-risk situations, for navigation, or for the 
diagnosis or treatment of any medical condition.
Image Descriptions
Off
Your iPhone will speak descriptions of images in apps and on the web.

Screen Recognition Off
Your iPhone will automatically make apps more accessible by recognizing items 
on the screen.
Text Recognition Off
Your iPhone will speak descriptions of text found in images.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Oct 5, 2020, at 10:01 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:


Hi Donald,

I'm using an iPhone 7 & not experiencing the extra voiceover chatter. What 
people are describing; With certain voiceover voices, can't remember which 
ones, voiceover reads all punctuation, even though the settings is set to none. 
Selecting a different voiceover voice To use solves this problem. The other 
voiceover chatter problem can easily be solved by going to settings, 
accessibility, voiceover, audio & deselecting items that you do not want 
voiceover to speak or  deselecting sounds that you do not want played for 
certain actions. And the very rare voiceover bug that I'm having & have read 2 
other people with a similar voiceover problem. The word "send" is spoken before 
my wifi name in the status bar, before folder names & before each page of apps 
on my phone. At first this was very annoying. Now my ears mostly blocks out the 
unnecessary word. Unless there is a "must have" feature that you "really" need 
to use right now, I recommend that you not update until IOS 14.02 is released. 
I, as well as others, is experiencing a very bad lag in voiceover & reaction 
time when an item on the screen is touched or tapped. Some people are reporting 
bad battery drainage. Apple reported that the battery drain problem can be 
solved by erasing "all content in settings or resetting all settings, another 
words returning your device to manufacture



Donna

Sorry for the somewhat vague subject line.  I tend to update IOS versions only 
after the update bugs and issues have been well discussed and evaluated.


After IOS 14 was released, there was some discussion of what was called 
excessive voiceover chattering.  Would someone please describe this more in 
detail, its likely cause, and what if anything can be done to either minimize 
it or eliminate it completely.  Frankly, until I learn more about this, I'll 
stick with 13.7.


Thanks.


Don Roberts


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[Donna Casteen]

Hi Donald,

I'm using an iPhone 7 & not experiencing the extra voiceover chatter. What 
people are describing; With certain voiceover voices, can't remember which 
ones, voiceover reads all punctuation, even though the settings is set to none. 
Selecting a different voiceover voice To use solves this problem. The other 
voiceover chatter problem can easily be solved by going to settings, 
accessibility, voiceover, audio & deselecting items that you do not want 
voiceover to speak or  deselecting sounds that you do not want played for 
certain actions. And the very rare voiceover bug that I'm having & have read 2 
other people with a similar voiceover problem. The word "send" is spoken before 
my wifi name in the status bar, before folder names & before each page of apps 
on my phone. At first this was very annoying. Now my ears mostly blocks out the 
unnecessary word. Unless there is a "must have" feature that you "really" need 
to use right now, I recommend that you not update until IOS 14.02 is released. 
I, as well as others, is experiencing a very bad lag in voiceover & reaction 
time when an item on the screen is touched or tapped. Some people are reporting 
bad battery drainage. Apple reported that the battery drain problem can be 
solved by erasing "all content in settings or resetting all settings, another 
words returning your device to manufacture   
> 
> 

Donna
> Sorry for the somewhat vague subject line.  I tend to update IOS versions 
> only after the update bugs and issues have been well discussed and evaluated.
> 
> 
> 
> After IOS 14 was released, there was some discussion of what was called 
> excessive voiceover chattering.  Would someone please describe this more in 
> detail, its likely cause, and what if anything can be done to either minimize 
> it or eliminate it completely.  Frankly, until I learn more about this, I'll 
> stick with 13.7.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Don Roberts
> 
> 
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Request description of a problem and solution if any

[Donald L. Roberts]

Sorry for the somewhat vague subject line.  I tend to update IOS 
versions only after the update bugs and issues have been well discussed 
and evaluated.



After IOS 14 was released, there was some discussion of what was called 
excessive voiceover chattering.  Would someone please describe this more 
in detail, its likely cause, and what if anything can be done to either 
minimize it or eliminate it completely.  Frankly, until I learn more 
about this, I'll stick with 13.7.



Thanks.


Don Roberts


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