Re: Some more braille display questions with an iPhone or iPad

2015-10-06 Thread chris
Pressing a cursor routing button in a text field should move the 
insertion point to the position of the cursor routing button. So if you 
press it on cell 1, the insertion point should move to the beginning and 
so on. I'm not aware of the ability to send mail directly using a 
Braille display.


On 05/10/2015 22:56, Mary Otten wrote:

Hello all,
I really don't know that I see myself using a braille display with a device for 
other than reading of books and articles etc. But I am curious how those of you 
who like to use it with things like male get along. For instance, when you get 
into the subject area and your cursor is at the end of the field, where you 
don't want it to start with, with the touchscreen, you double tap and the 
cursor comes back to the beginning, where you want to start typing your 
message. How do you do that with a braille display? I tried double tapping a 
cursor routing key, but was not moved where I thought I should've been, i.e. 
back to the start of the message text area. Also, with a Bluetooth keyboard 
when in mail, there is a command that lets you directly send a message without 
having to tab all the way back to the send button. That has been ported over 
from the Mac. Is there such a command for braille? Obviously, since I have a 
choice to use the touchscreen or a braille device, if I find it more ef

ficient to use the screen, I can. But for those folks who don't have very good 
hearing, or who may find themselves in places where speech is not the ideal 
thing, it would seem like having some commands to make operations more 
efficient, where you don't have to tab, tab, tab, would be a good thing.

Mary

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Re: Some more braille display questions with an iPhone or iPad

2015-10-06 Thread Gmail
Whenever you touch the screen and you have a Braille display connected, what 
you're touching is shown on the display. So, you can touch with one hand and 
read with the other.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Oct 5, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> When I use a braille display in things like Mail, I also touch the screen 
> when that's more efficient.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> I really don't know that I see myself using a braille display with a device 
>> for other than reading of books and articles etc. But I am curious how those 
>> of you who like to use it with things like male get along. For instance, 
>> when you get into the subject area and your cursor is at the end of the 
>> field, where you don't want it to start with, with the touchscreen, you 
>> double tap and the cursor comes back to the beginning, where you want to 
>> start typing your message. How do you do that with a braille display? I 
>> tried double tapping a cursor routing key, but was not moved where I thought 
>> I should've been, i.e. back to the start of the message text area. Also, 
>> with a Bluetooth keyboard when in mail, there is a command that lets you 
>> directly send a message without having to tab all the way back to the send 
>> button. That has been ported over from the Mac. Is there such a command for 
>> braille? Obviously, since I have a choice to use the touchscreen or a 
>> braille device, if I find it more efficient to use the screen, I can. But 
>> for those folks who don't have very good hearing, or who may find themselves 
>> in places where speech is not the ideal thing, it would seem like having 
>> some commands to make operations more efficient, where you don't have to 
>> tab, tab, tab, would be a good thing.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Some more braille display questions with an iPhone or iPad

2015-10-06 Thread brian albriton
I have not seen this work well on my end. Using a focus 14. Sometimes the 
routing works and mostly of late it doesn't. 

> On Oct 6, 2015, at 12:02 AM, chris  wrote:
> 
> Pressing a cursor routing button in a text field should move the insertion 
> point to the position of the cursor routing button. So if you press it on 
> cell 1, the insertion point should move to the beginning and so on. I'm not 
> aware of the ability to send mail directly using a Braille display.
> 
>> On 05/10/2015 22:56, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I really don't know that I see myself using a braille display with a device 
>> for other than reading of books and articles etc. But I am curious how those 
>> of you who like to use it with things like male get along. For instance, 
>> when you get into the subject area and your cursor is at the end of the 
>> field, where you don't want it to start with, with the touchscreen, you 
>> double tap and the cursor comes back to the beginning, where you want to 
>> start typing your message. How do you do that with a braille display? I 
>> tried double tapping a cursor routing key, but was not moved where I thought 
>> I should've been, i.e. back to the start of the message text area. Also, 
>> with a Bluetooth keyboard when in mail, there is a command that lets you 
>> directly send a message without having to tab all the way back to the send 
>> button. That has been ported over from the Mac. Is there such a command for 
>> braille? Obviously, since I have a choice to use the touchscreen or a 
>> braille device, if I find it more ef
> ficient to use the screen, I can. But for those folks who don't have very 
> good hearing, or who may find themselves in places where speech is not the 
> ideal thing, it would seem like having some commands to make operations more 
> efficient, where you don't have to tab, tab, tab, would be a good thing.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Some more braille display questions with an iPhone or iPad

2015-10-06 Thread Mary Otten
I have to agree, that when I pressed the cursor routing button and expected the 
cursor to move to the start where the routing button was, it didn't. This was 
in the email app. Also, touching the screen does not always make the braille 
display focus move. I don't know why. Maybe this is new or not.
Mary


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> On Oct 6, 2015, at 7:11 AM, brian albriton  wrote:
> 
> I have not seen this work well on my end. Using a focus 14. Sometimes the 
> routing works and mostly of late it doesn't. 
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2015, at 12:02 AM, chris  wrote:
>> 
>> Pressing a cursor routing button in a text field should move the insertion 
>> point to the position of the cursor routing button. So if you press it on 
>> cell 1, the insertion point should move to the beginning and so on. I'm not 
>> aware of the ability to send mail directly using a Braille display.
>> 
>>> On 05/10/2015 22:56, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> I really don't know that I see myself using a braille display with a device 
>>> for other than reading of books and articles etc. But I am curious how 
>>> those of you who like to use it with things like male get along. For 
>>> instance, when you get into the subject area and your cursor is at the end 
>>> of the field, where you don't want it to start with, with the touchscreen, 
>>> you double tap and the cursor comes back to the beginning, where you want 
>>> to start typing your message. How do you do that with a braille display? I 
>>> tried double tapping a cursor routing key, but was not moved where I 
>>> thought I should've been, i.e. back to the start of the message text area. 
>>> Also, with a Bluetooth keyboard when in mail, there is a command that lets 
>>> you directly send a message without having to tab all the way back to the 
>>> send button. That has been ported over from the Mac. Is there such a 
>>> command for braille? Obviously, since I have a choice to use the 
>>> touchscreen or a braille device, if I find it more ef
>> ficient to use the screen, I can. But for those folks who don't have very 
>> good hearing, or who may find themselves in places where speech is not the 
>> ideal thing, it would seem like having some commands to make operations more 
>> efficient, where you don't have to tab, tab, tab, would be a good thing.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Some more braille display questions with an iPhone or iPad

2015-10-05 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Mary,

When I use a braille display in things like Mail, I also touch the screen when 
that's more efficient.

Best,
Anna



> On Oct 5, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I really don't know that I see myself using a braille display with a device 
> for other than reading of books and articles etc. But I am curious how those 
> of you who like to use it with things like male get along. For instance, when 
> you get into the subject area and your cursor is at the end of the field, 
> where you don't want it to start with, with the touchscreen, you double tap 
> and the cursor comes back to the beginning, where you want to start typing 
> your message. How do you do that with a braille display? I tried double 
> tapping a cursor routing key, but was not moved where I thought I should've 
> been, i.e. back to the start of the message text area. Also, with a Bluetooth 
> keyboard when in mail, there is a command that lets you directly send a 
> message without having to tab all the way back to the send button. That has 
> been ported over from the Mac. Is there such a command for braille? 
> Obviously, since I have a choice to use the touchscreen or a braille device, 
> if I find it more efficient to use the screen, I can. But for those folks who 
> don't have very good hearing, or who may find themselves in places where 
> speech is not the ideal thing, it would seem like having some commands to 
> make operations more efficient, where you don't have to tab, tab, tab, would 
> be a good thing.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Some more braille display questions with an iPhone or iPad

2015-10-05 Thread Mary Otten
Hello all,
I really don't know that I see myself using a braille display with a device for 
other than reading of books and articles etc. But I am curious how those of you 
who like to use it with things like male get along. For instance, when you get 
into the subject area and your cursor is at the end of the field, where you 
don't want it to start with, with the touchscreen, you double tap and the 
cursor comes back to the beginning, where you want to start typing your 
message. How do you do that with a braille display? I tried double tapping a 
cursor routing key, but was not moved where I thought I should've been, i.e. 
back to the start of the message text area. Also, with a Bluetooth keyboard 
when in mail, there is a command that lets you directly send a message without 
having to tab all the way back to the send button. That has been ported over 
from the Mac. Is there such a command for braille? Obviously, since I have a 
choice to use the touchscreen or a braille device, if I find it more efficient 
to use the screen, I can. But for those folks who don't have very good hearing, 
or who may find themselves in places where speech is not the ideal thing, it 
would seem like having some commands to make operations more efficient, where 
you don't have to tab, tab, tab, would be a good thing.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Some more braille display questions with an iPhone or iPad

2015-10-05 Thread Devin Prater
When I am in mail, I just press space with 3-6 to get back to the beginning of 
text That usually works fine. To send, just press spce with 1-2-3, then go 
forward twice, and you'll be fine.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> When I use a braille display in things like Mail, I also touch the screen 
> when that's more efficient.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> I really don't know that I see myself using a braille display with a device 
>> for other than reading of books and articles etc. But I am curious how those 
>> of you who like to use it with things like male get along. For instance, 
>> when you get into the subject area and your cursor is at the end of the 
>> field, where you don't want it to start with, with the touchscreen, you 
>> double tap and the cursor comes back to the beginning, where you want to 
>> start typing your message. How do you do that with a braille display? I 
>> tried double tapping a cursor routing key, but was not moved where I thought 
>> I should've been, i.e. back to the start of the message text area. Also, 
>> with a Bluetooth keyboard when in mail, there is a command that lets you 
>> directly send a message without having to tab all the way back to the send 
>> button. That has been ported over from the Mac. Is there such a command for 
>> braille? Obviously, since I have a choice to use the touchscreen or a 
>> braille device, if I find it more efficient to use the screen, I can. But 
>> for those folks who don't have very good hearing, or who may find themselves 
>> in places where speech is not the ideal thing, it would seem like having 
>> some commands to make operations more efficient, where you don't have to 
>> tab, tab, tab, would be a good thing.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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