RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-18 Thread Chip Orange
Hi Keith,

 

As part of the USB protocol definition, the device needing power must specify 
to the device providing the power, how much power it needs.  The device 
providing power is only allowed to provide the minimum of what it can provide 
with its electronics, what the device asked for, and the maximum the USB/B 
specification allows.

I think the difference (if nothing else) is that the USB/C specification allows 
for a higher maximum.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 5:39 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

 

Thanks Sieghard.

 

I wonder what, if anything, about the standard USB plug renders it 
unsatisfactory for the Fast Charge process.

 

Keith

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

 

Looks just like a regular Lightning cable except that the regular USB end which 
normally plugs into a wall charger or your computer’s USB port now is replaced 
by a USB-C plug which is much smaller, more like the Lightning end in size and 
it is also reversable, i.e. you can plug it in ether way.

Obviously a USB-C power adapter would have a matching female port to accept the 
smaller USB-C plug. Here is what Apple says on their website, in Canada the 
cable is 35.00 CAD:

 

Connect your iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector to your USB-C– or 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB‑C)–enabled Mac for syncing and charging.

You can also use this cable with your Apple 29W, 61W or 87W USB-C Power Adapter 
to charge your iOS device, and even take advantage of the fast-charging

feature on iPad Pro, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X.

 

Compatible with the following computers:

12-inch MacBook, 13-inch MacBook Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 15-inch MacBook 
Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)

21.5-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 27-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)

 

Here is what it says on the Apple website about the 3 available power adapters 
mentioned above, clearly if you already own a newer MacBook I think you would 
already have either the 61 Watt or 87 Watt power adapter and you can use that 
with one of the new iPhones, but if not and yu want to take advantage of fast 
charging for your new iPhone X or 8 or 8 Plus then the 29 Watt power adapter is 
the one you want to get.

In let’s say 4 or 5 years or so when most people have an iPhone 8 or above this 
of course will be much more relevant although then we of course also may not 
charge with a cable very much any more at all.

 

29 Watt: 49.99 CAD

The Apple 29W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in 
the office or on the go. While the power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled

device, Apple recommends pairing it with your iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, or 
iPhone X to take advantage of the fast-charging feature.

USB-C to Lightning Cable sold separately.

 

61 Watt: 89.00 CAD

The 61W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled

device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 13-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.

USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

 

87 Watt: 99 CAD

The 87W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled

device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 15-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.

USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:37 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

 

What does the USB-C adapter look / feel like? Keith

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

 

Using an iPad wall adapter which puts out 12 Watts of power does speed up 
charging of a regular iPhone up to the 7 and 7 Plus over the 5 Watt adapter 
that comes with the iPhone, but it is not fast charging.

True Fast charging technology is only available on the new 2017 iPhones, the 8, 
8 Plus and iPhone X and as was pointed out previously, it requires the USB-C to 
Lightning cable and the correct adapter.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Chao
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:39 PM
To: v

RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
On the iPhone there is no USB-C port, still regular Lightning which is similar, 
but still not the same. Apple is not known for giving stuff away which is why 
they are so rich so they probably see no reason to include this. They provide 
the regular Lightning cable which may also have to do with compatibility, after 
all, there still probably are a lot more PC’s and laptops out there with USB 
ports which don’t have USB-C, if they only included a USB-C cable you probably 
would get a ton of complaints from people who don’t have it.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 3:15 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

You’re right, Sieghard. But if that’s the case, they should include that new 
wall plug and cable with the device, and not the old standard they’re moving 
away from. They wouldn’t need to include the higher wattage plug, of course, 
but they could include the standard wall plug for an iPhone that fits the USB-C 
plug. Keith

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 5:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

You could say the same about data transfer rates, I think it might not so much 
be about that they couldn’t have designed a USB 4 standard or whatever they 
want to call it and achieve the same speeds, I think it’s just that things do 
get smaller and there is a trend for the same standards to work on computers, 
tablets and phones and the standard USB plug is simply to large and Micro USB 
of course is in my opinion inferior since you always have to fiddle around and 
plug it in the right way, coming up with something small which plugs in either 
way makes a lot of sense.

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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:39 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Thanks Sieghard.

I wonder what, if anything, about the standard USB plug renders it 
unsatisfactory for the Fast Charge process.

Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Looks just like a regular Lightning cable except that the regular USB end which 
normally plugs into a wall charger or your computer’s USB port now is replaced 
by a USB-C plug which is much smaller, more like the Lightning end in size and 
it is also reversable, i.e. you can plug it in ether way.
Obviously a USB-C power adapter would have a matching female port to accept the 
smaller USB-C plug. Here is what Apple says on their website, in Canada the 
cable is 35.00 CAD:

Connect your iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector to your USB-C– or 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB‑C)–enabled Mac for syncing and charging.
You can also use this cable with your Apple 29W, 61W or 87W USB-C Power Adapter 
to charge your iOS device, and even take advantage of the fast-charging
feature on iPad Pro, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X.

Compatible with the following computers:
12-inch MacBook, 13-inch MacBook Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 15-inch MacBook 
Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)
21.5-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 27-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)

Here is what it says on the Apple website about the 3 available power adapters 
mentioned above, clearly if you already own a newer MacBook I think you would 
already have either the 61 Watt or 87 Watt power adapter and you can use that 
with one of the new iPhones, but if not and yu want to take advantage of fast 
charging for your new iPhone X or 8 or 8 Plus then the 29 Watt power adapter is 
the one you want to get.
In let’s say 4 or 5 years or so when most people have an iPhone 8 or above this 
of course will be much more relevant although then we of course also may not 
charge with a cable very much any more at all.

29 Watt: 49.99 CAD
The Apple 29W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in 
the office or on the go. While the power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, or 
iPhone X to take advantage of the fast-charging feature.
USB-C to Lightning Cable sold separately.

61 Watt: 89.00 CAD
The 61W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any

RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-17 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
You’re right, Sieghard. But if that’s the case, they should include that new 
wall plug and cable with the device, and not the old standard they’re moving 
away from. They wouldn’t need to include the higher wattage plug, of course, 
but they could include the standard wall plug for an iPhone that fits the USB-C 
plug. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 5:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

You could say the same about data transfer rates, I think it might not so much 
be about that they couldn’t have designed a USB 4 standard or whatever they 
want to call it and achieve the same speeds, I think it’s just that things do 
get smaller and there is a trend for the same standards to work on computers, 
tablets and phones and the standard USB plug is simply to large and Micro USB 
of course is in my opinion inferior since you always have to fiddle around and 
plug it in the right way, coming up with something small which plugs in either 
way makes a lot of sense.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:39 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Thanks Sieghard.

I wonder what, if anything, about the standard USB plug renders it 
unsatisfactory for the Fast Charge process.

Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Looks just like a regular Lightning cable except that the regular USB end which 
normally plugs into a wall charger or your computer’s USB port now is replaced 
by a USB-C plug which is much smaller, more like the Lightning end in size and 
it is also reversable, i.e. you can plug it in ether way.
Obviously a USB-C power adapter would have a matching female port to accept the 
smaller USB-C plug. Here is what Apple says on their website, in Canada the 
cable is 35.00 CAD:

Connect your iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector to your USB-C– or 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB‑C)–enabled Mac for syncing and charging.
You can also use this cable with your Apple 29W, 61W or 87W USB-C Power Adapter 
to charge your iOS device, and even take advantage of the fast-charging
feature on iPad Pro, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X.

Compatible with the following computers:
12-inch MacBook, 13-inch MacBook Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 15-inch MacBook 
Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)
21.5-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 27-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)

Here is what it says on the Apple website about the 3 available power adapters 
mentioned above, clearly if you already own a newer MacBook I think you would 
already have either the 61 Watt or 87 Watt power adapter and you can use that 
with one of the new iPhones, but if not and yu want to take advantage of fast 
charging for your new iPhone X or 8 or 8 Plus then the 29 Watt power adapter is 
the one you want to get.
In let’s say 4 or 5 years or so when most people have an iPhone 8 or above this 
of course will be much more relevant although then we of course also may not 
charge with a cable very much any more at all.

29 Watt: 49.99 CAD
The Apple 29W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in 
the office or on the go. While the power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, or 
iPhone X to take advantage of the fast-charging feature.
USB-C to Lightning Cable sold separately.

61 Watt: 89.00 CAD
The 61W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 13-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.
USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

87 Watt: 99 CAD
The 87W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 15-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.
USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

Regards,
Sieghard

Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:37 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

What does the USB-C adapter look / feel like? Keith

From: vip

RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You could say the same about data transfer rates, I think it might not so much 
be about that they couldn’t have designed a USB 4 standard or whatever they 
want to call it and achieve the same speeds, I think it’s just that things do 
get smaller and there is a trend for the same standards to work on computers, 
tablets and phones and the standard USB plug is simply to large and Micro USB 
of course is in my opinion inferior since you always have to fiddle around and 
plug it in the right way, coming up with something small which plugs in either 
way makes a lot of sense.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:39 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Thanks Sieghard.

I wonder what, if anything, about the standard USB plug renders it 
unsatisfactory for the Fast Charge process.

Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Looks just like a regular Lightning cable except that the regular USB end which 
normally plugs into a wall charger or your computer’s USB port now is replaced 
by a USB-C plug which is much smaller, more like the Lightning end in size and 
it is also reversable, i.e. you can plug it in ether way.
Obviously a USB-C power adapter would have a matching female port to accept the 
smaller USB-C plug. Here is what Apple says on their website, in Canada the 
cable is 35.00 CAD:

Connect your iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector to your USB-C– or 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB‑C)–enabled Mac for syncing and charging.
You can also use this cable with your Apple 29W, 61W or 87W USB-C Power Adapter 
to charge your iOS device, and even take advantage of the fast-charging
feature on iPad Pro, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X.

Compatible with the following computers:
12-inch MacBook, 13-inch MacBook Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 15-inch MacBook 
Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)
21.5-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 27-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)

Here is what it says on the Apple website about the 3 available power adapters 
mentioned above, clearly if you already own a newer MacBook I think you would 
already have either the 61 Watt or 87 Watt power adapter and you can use that 
with one of the new iPhones, but if not and yu want to take advantage of fast 
charging for your new iPhone X or 8 or 8 Plus then the 29 Watt power adapter is 
the one you want to get.
In let’s say 4 or 5 years or so when most people have an iPhone 8 or above this 
of course will be much more relevant although then we of course also may not 
charge with a cable very much any more at all.

29 Watt: 49.99 CAD
The Apple 29W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in 
the office or on the go. While the power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, or 
iPhone X to take advantage of the fast-charging feature.
USB-C to Lightning Cable sold separately.

61 Watt: 89.00 CAD
The 61W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 13-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.
USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

87 Watt: 99 CAD
The 87W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 15-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.
USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

Regards,
Sieghard

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:37 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

What does the USB-C adapter look / feel like? Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Using an iPad wall adapter which puts out 12 Watts of power does speed up 
charging of a regular iPhone up to the 7 and 7 Plus over the 5 Watt adapter 
that comes with the iPhone, but it is not fast charging.
True Fast charging technology is only available on t

RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-17 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Thanks Sieghard.

I wonder what, if anything, about the standard USB plug renders it 
unsatisfactory for the Fast Charge process.

Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Looks just like a regular Lightning cable except that the regular USB end which 
normally plugs into a wall charger or your computer’s USB port now is replaced 
by a USB-C plug which is much smaller, more like the Lightning end in size and 
it is also reversable, i.e. you can plug it in ether way.
Obviously a USB-C power adapter would have a matching female port to accept the 
smaller USB-C plug. Here is what Apple says on their website, in Canada the 
cable is 35.00 CAD:

Connect your iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector to your USB-C– or 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB‑C)–enabled Mac for syncing and charging.
You can also use this cable with your Apple 29W, 61W or 87W USB-C Power Adapter 
to charge your iOS device, and even take advantage of the fast-charging
feature on iPad Pro, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X.

Compatible with the following computers:
12-inch MacBook, 13-inch MacBook Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 15-inch MacBook 
Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)
21.5-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 27-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)

Here is what it says on the Apple website about the 3 available power adapters 
mentioned above, clearly if you already own a newer MacBook I think you would 
already have either the 61 Watt or 87 Watt power adapter and you can use that 
with one of the new iPhones, but if not and yu want to take advantage of fast 
charging for your new iPhone X or 8 or 8 Plus then the 29 Watt power adapter is 
the one you want to get.
In let’s say 4 or 5 years or so when most people have an iPhone 8 or above this 
of course will be much more relevant although then we of course also may not 
charge with a cable very much any more at all.

29 Watt: 49.99 CAD
The Apple 29W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in 
the office or on the go. While the power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, or 
iPhone X to take advantage of the fast-charging feature.
USB-C to Lightning Cable sold separately.

61 Watt: 89.00 CAD
The 61W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 13-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.
USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

87 Watt: 99 CAD
The 87W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 15-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.
USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

Regards,
Sieghard

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:37 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

What does the USB-C adapter look / feel like? Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Using an iPad wall adapter which puts out 12 Watts of power does speed up 
charging of a regular iPhone up to the 7 and 7 Plus over the 5 Watt adapter 
that comes with the iPhone, but it is not fast charging.
True Fast charging technology is only available on the new 2017 iPhones, the 8, 
8 Plus and iPhone X and as was pointed out previously, it requires the USB-C to 
Lightning cable and the correct adapter.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

I chatted with Apple Support, where they informed me that they were not sure if 
it was included. If not, it would require the 29W USB-C Mac power adapter and 
usb-C to lightning cable.

I'll wait until there is 3P one for a portable charger or a stand/pad...

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:09 PM Nimer Jaber 
<nimerjab...@gmail.com<mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,
I am pretty sure that it will speed up charging on any iPhones, but p

RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Looks just like a regular Lightning cable except that the regular USB end which 
normally plugs into a wall charger or your computer’s USB port now is replaced 
by a USB-C plug which is much smaller, more like the Lightning end in size and 
it is also reversable, i.e. you can plug it in ether way.
Obviously a USB-C power adapter would have a matching female port to accept the 
smaller USB-C plug. Here is what Apple says on their website, in Canada the 
cable is 35.00 CAD:

Connect your iPhone, iPad or iPod with Lightning connector to your USB-C– or 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB‑C)–enabled Mac for syncing and charging.
You can also use this cable with your Apple 29W, 61W or 87W USB-C Power Adapter 
to charge your iOS device, and even take advantage of the fast-charging
feature on iPad Pro, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X.

Compatible with the following computers:
12-inch MacBook, 13-inch MacBook Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 15-inch MacBook 
Pro - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)
21.5-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C), 27-inch iMac - Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)

Here is what it says on the Apple website about the 3 available power adapters 
mentioned above, clearly if you already own a newer MacBook I think you would 
already have either the 61 Watt or 87 Watt power adapter and you can use that 
with one of the new iPhones, but if not and yu want to take advantage of fast 
charging for your new iPhone X or 8 or 8 Plus then the 29 Watt power adapter is 
the one you want to get.
In let’s say 4 or 5 years or so when most people have an iPhone 8 or above this 
of course will be much more relevant although then we of course also may not 
charge with a cable very much any more at all.

29 Watt: 49.99 CAD
The Apple 29W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in 
the office or on the go. While the power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, or 
iPhone X to take advantage of the fast-charging feature.
USB-C to Lightning Cable sold separately.

61 Watt: 89.00 CAD
The 61W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 13-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.
USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

87 Watt: 99 CAD
The 87W USB-C Power Adapter offers fast, efficient charging at home, in the 
office or on the go. While this power adapter is compatible with any 
USB-C–enabled
device, Apple recommends pairing it with your 15-inch MacBook Pro with 
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports for optimal charging performance.
USB-C Charge Cable sold separately.

Regards,
Sieghard

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

What does the USB-C adapter look / feel like? Keith

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Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Using an iPad wall adapter which puts out 12 Watts of power does speed up 
charging of a regular iPhone up to the 7 and 7 Plus over the 5 Watt adapter 
that comes with the iPhone, but it is not fast charging.
True Fast charging technology is only available on the new 2017 iPhones, the 8, 
8 Plus and iPhone X and as was pointed out previously, it requires the USB-C to 
Lightning cable and the correct adapter.

Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

I chatted with Apple Support, where they informed me that they were not sure if 
it was included. If not, it would require the 29W USB-C Mac power adapter and 
usb-C to lightning cable.

I'll wait until there is 3P one for a portable charger or a stand/pad...

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:09 PM Nimer Jaber 
<nimerjab...@gmail.com<mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,
I am pretty sure that it will speed up charging on any iPhones, but probably 
not to the same extent... Plugging the iPhone into an iPad charger improves 
charging time significantly.

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 11:07 PM Kevin Chao 
<kevincha...@gmail.com<mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is this fast charging available only on the 2017 iPhones? Or, will it work on 
earlier iPhones if one gets the USB-C to lightning cable?

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 7:47 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
<s

RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-17 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
What does the USB-C adapter look / feel like? Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

Using an iPad wall adapter which puts out 12 Watts of power does speed up 
charging of a regular iPhone up to the 7 and 7 Plus over the 5 Watt adapter 
that comes with the iPhone, but it is not fast charging.
True Fast charging technology is only available on the new 2017 iPhones, the 8, 
8 Plus and iPhone X and as was pointed out previously, it requires the USB-C to 
Lightning cable and the correct adapter.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

I chatted with Apple Support, where they informed me that they were not sure if 
it was included. If not, it would require the 29W USB-C Mac power adapter and 
usb-C to lightning cable.

I'll wait until there is 3P one for a portable charger or a stand/pad...

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:09 PM Nimer Jaber 
<nimerjab...@gmail.com<mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,
I am pretty sure that it will speed up charging on any iPhones, but probably 
not to the same extent... Plugging the iPhone into an iPad charger improves 
charging time significantly.

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 11:07 PM Kevin Chao 
<kevincha...@gmail.com<mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is this fast charging available only on the 2017 iPhones? Or, will it work on 
earlier iPhones if one gets the USB-C to lightning cable?

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 7:47 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
You need a different cable as far as I know for Apple fast charging, I believe 
it is a USB-C to Lightning.


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Subject: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two fast 
charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or quite how to 
tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with the new Iphones, can 
I buy an adaptor of some sort to use this charge for fast charging them. All of 
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RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Using an iPad wall adapter which puts out 12 Watts of power does speed up 
charging of a regular iPhone up to the 7 and 7 Plus over the 5 Watt adapter 
that comes with the iPhone, but it is not fast charging.
True Fast charging technology is only available on the new 2017 iPhones, the 8, 
8 Plus and iPhone X and as was pointed out previously, it requires the USB-C to 
Lightning cable and the correct adapter.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

I chatted with Apple Support, where they informed me that they were not sure if 
it was included. If not, it would require the 29W USB-C Mac power adapter and 
usb-C to lightning cable.

I'll wait until there is 3P one for a portable charger or a stand/pad...

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:09 PM Nimer Jaber 
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Hello,
I am pretty sure that it will speed up charging on any iPhones, but probably 
not to the same extent... Plugging the iPhone into an iPad charger improves 
charging time significantly.

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 11:07 PM Kevin Chao 
<kevincha...@gmail.com<mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is this fast charging available only on the 2017 iPhones? Or, will it work on 
earlier iPhones if one gets the USB-C to lightning cable?

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 7:47 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
You need a different cable as far as I know for Apple fast charging, I believe 
it is a USB-C to Lightning.


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Subject: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two fast 
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tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with the new Iphones, can 
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Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-16 Thread Kevin Chao
I chatted with Apple Support, where they informed me that they were not
sure if it was included. If not, it would require the 29W USB-C Mac power
adapter and usb-C to lightning cable.

I'll wait until there is 3P one for a portable charger or a stand/pad...

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:09 PM Nimer Jaber <nimerjab...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am pretty sure that it will speed up charging on any iPhones, but
> probably not to the same extent... Plugging the iPhone into an iPad charger
> improves charging time significantly.
>
> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 11:07 PM Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is this fast charging available only on the 2017 iPhones? Or, will it
>> work on earlier iPhones if one gets the USB-C to lightning cable?
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 7:47 PM Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You need a different cable as far as I know for Apple fast charging, I
>>> believe it is a USB-C to Lightning.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> Behalf Of Deb Lewis
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>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>>>
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>>> fast charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or quite
>>> how to tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with the new
>>> Iphones, can I buy an adaptor of some sort to use this charge for fast
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Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-16 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

I am pretty sure that it will speed up charging on any iPhones, but
probably not to the same extent... Plugging the iPhone into an iPad charger
improves charging time significantly.

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 11:07 PM Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is this fast charging available only on the 2017 iPhones? Or, will it work
> on earlier iPhones if one gets the USB-C to lightning cable?
>
> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 7:47 PM Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>
>> You need a different cable as far as I know for Apple fast charging, I
>> believe it is a USB-C to Lightning.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Deb Lewis
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Still puzzled about Fast Charging
>>
>> I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two fast
>> charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or quite how
>> to tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with the new
>> Iphones, can I buy an adaptor of some sort to use this charge for fast
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Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-16 Thread Kevin Chao
Is this fast charging available only on the 2017 iPhones? Or, will it work
on earlier iPhones if one gets the USB-C to lightning cable?

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 7:47 PM Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

> You need a different cable as far as I know for Apple fast charging, I
> believe it is a USB-C to Lightning.
>
>
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> Behalf Of Deb Lewis
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> Subject: Still puzzled about Fast Charging
>
> I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two fast
> charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or quite how
> to tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with the new
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RE: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You need a different cable as far as I know for Apple fast charging, I believe 
it is a USB-C to Lightning.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two fast 
charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or quite how to 
tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with the new Iphones, can 
I buy an adaptor of some sort to use this charge for fast charging them. All of 
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Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-15 Thread Robin Frost

Hi,
I'm no expert but it would seem to me that if they have fast charging ports 
Apple's USB C to lightning cable would do the trick in that instance.  If 
I'm wrong I'm sure someone else will enlighten both of us (smiles).

Robin

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I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two
fast charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or
quite how to tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with
the new Iphones, can I buy an adaptor of some sort to use this charge
for fast charging them. All of the ports themselves look like standard
USB ports.

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Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-15 Thread Deb Lewis
No, I don't need wireless charging. I just wan tto do the plugged in
quick charge which still requires cables. Apple wants to sell a cable
and an adaptor for this but my question is can I use what I have
rather than buying Apple's. This is different from the charging ad.

On 9/15/17, Maria Reyes <the.big.apple.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When they come out you'll have to buy a wireless charging pad. But it
> doesn't come out until next year. What you have to do is set your device on
> the mat and it just starts charging
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> I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two
> fast charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or
> quite how to tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with
> the new Iphones, can I buy an adaptor of some sort to use this charge
> for fast charging them. All of the ports themselves look like standard
> USB ports.
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Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-15 Thread Maria Reyes
When they come out you'll have to buy a wireless charging pad. But it doesn't 
come out until next year. What you have to do is set your device on the mat and 
it just starts charging

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Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two
fast charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or
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Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-15 Thread Deb Lewis
I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two
fast charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or
quite how to tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with
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