Re: Upgraded to 4s
If it's on a sticker and it's 8 digits it is WPS which is a major security vulnerability as it is easily hacked. Disable it from within your router and just use a proper WPA2 key. Of course some routers won't let you turn it off and others, Linksys, will tell you it's off when it is not. At 05:01 PM 12/31/2012, you wrote: Sieghard is referring to the user ID and password you use to log onto your router, and he's correct, if you haven't changed this then you can look up the defaults on line or n your router's documentation. Obviously, not changing this is a security concern, but someone would have to already be on your network to even try to log in in the first place. I think you're referring to the WPA key used to get on to the wireless network, where you are correct, this is unique to the router and can usually be found on a sticker on the router itself. On 31/12/12 11:29, Rob Harris wrote: > All modern routers we've had, have a label stuck to the back or bottom and > the password is unique; or their security would be worthless. This includes > those provided by cable providers. > > RobH. > - Original Message - > From: "Sieghard Weitzel" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 5:08 PM > Subject: RE: Upgraded to 4s > > > Hi Tessa, > > Starting at the end of your post, the WiFi password cannot be viewed. > Depending on which router they have, you can see the WiFi password and > change it if you know how to log on to the router, but that of course > requires a password as well. If your parents never changed it, then you can > find out what the default router password is by doing a Google search for > your brand/model of router, often a particular brand uses the same default > password. For example, Netgear routers usually use "admin" as the user name > and "password" as the password. Of course this is supposed to be changed by > the user, but you'd be surprised how many users never do change this. If you > can't log on to the router you could do a factory reset of the router (there > is usually a Pinhole in the back and you poke a paper clip or something like > that into it). Of course this would wipe out any custom settings. You will > also need the routers Ip address, once again, this is brand specific. Many > use 192.168.0.1, some use 192.168.1.1 (Netgear) and there maybe others. > > OK, now as far as your apps are concerned, you can keep your phones in sync > if you use the same Apple Id on both phones and if you go into "Settings" > and "Store" and tell both phones to automatically sync apps then if you > delete an app on one phone it will also delete from the other phone, if you > buy an app on one phone it will also appear on the other phone. Of course if > you want to have separate apps, music and so on on each phone you should not > enable this. > > If your iPhone 4 is still in good condition you could ask your provider to > give you unlock instructions which they should do if the phone is no longer > under contract. Then you can unlock it which would allow you to easily sell > it. You can google "iPhone 4 resale values" or something like to get an idea > what they are going for. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Tessa > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:42 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Upgraded to 4s > > I recently got a 4s but still have my 4. They just took the card from the 4 > and put it in the 4s. I had backed up my old phone and then hooked up the > new to itunes and it eventually copied my apps and such over. > 1 I had entered several contacts on the old phone which never got transfered > to the new, someone would call me and then I'd put their name and number in > the contact list. Why didn't these get copied over? > 2 My apps on the old phone are much more organized than on the new. I can > still use the old one and sometimes try out some of my old apps and then > delte them. I've also been trying out apps on the new phone and deleting the > ones that aren't accessible. I downloaded a whole bunch just for testing > purposes and haven't got through them yet. > Can I delete apps from the old or the new phone and have the same apps > deleted from the other phone. Yes it does seem a bit senseless to have two > devices doing the same thing but I haven't decided what to do with the old > phone yet. > I do have wireless here at home and my old phone can connect to my mom's > wireless though they don't know their password so my new one can't LOL. Is > there a way to
Re: Upgraded to 4s
Sieghard is referring to the user ID and password you use to log onto your router, and he's correct, if you haven't changed this then you can look up the defaults on line or n your router's documentation. Obviously, not changing this is a security concern, but someone would have to already be on your network to even try to log in in the first place. I think you're referring to the WPA key used to get on to the wireless network, where you are correct, this is unique to the router and can usually be found on a sticker on the router itself. On 31/12/12 11:29, Rob Harris wrote: > All modern routers we've had, have a label stuck to the back or bottom and > the password is unique; or their security would be worthless. This includes > those provided by cable providers. > > RobH. > - Original Message - > From: "Sieghard Weitzel" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 5:08 PM > Subject: RE: Upgraded to 4s > > > Hi Tessa, > > Starting at the end of your post, the WiFi password cannot be viewed. > Depending on which router they have, you can see the WiFi password and > change it if you know how to log on to the router, but that of course > requires a password as well. If your parents never changed it, then you can > find out what the default router password is by doing a Google search for > your brand/model of router, often a particular brand uses the same default > password. For example, Netgear routers usually use "admin" as the user name > and "password" as the password. Of course this is supposed to be changed by > the user, but you'd be surprised how many users never do change this. If you > can't log on to the router you could do a factory reset of the router (there > is usually a Pinhole in the back and you poke a paper clip or something like > that into it). Of course this would wipe out any custom settings. You will > also need the routers Ip address, once again, this is brand specific. Many > use 192.168.0.1, some use 192.168.1.1 (Netgear) and there maybe others. > > OK, now as far as your apps are concerned, you can keep your phones in sync > if you use the same Apple Id on both phones and if you go into "Settings" > and "Store" and tell both phones to automatically sync apps then if you > delete an app on one phone it will also delete from the other phone, if you > buy an app on one phone it will also appear on the other phone. Of course if > you want to have separate apps, music and so on on each phone you should not > enable this. > > If your iPhone 4 is still in good condition you could ask your provider to > give you unlock instructions which they should do if the phone is no longer > under contract. Then you can unlock it which would allow you to easily sell > it. You can google "iPhone 4 resale values" or something like to get an idea > what they are going for. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Tessa > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:42 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Upgraded to 4s > > I recently got a 4s but still have my 4. They just took the card from the 4 > and put it in the 4s. I had backed up my old phone and then hooked up the > new to itunes and it eventually copied my apps and such over. > 1 I had entered several contacts on the old phone which never got transfered > to the new, someone would call me and then I'd put their name and number in > the contact list. Why didn't these get copied over? > 2 My apps on the old phone are much more organized than on the new. I can > still use the old one and sometimes try out some of my old apps and then > delte them. I've also been trying out apps on the new phone and deleting the > ones that aren't accessible. I downloaded a whole bunch just for testing > purposes and haven't got through them yet. > Can I delete apps from the old or the new phone and have the same apps > deleted from the other phone. Yes it does seem a bit senseless to have two > devices doing the same thing but I haven't decided what to do with the old > phone yet. > I do have wireless here at home and my old phone can connect to my mom's > wireless though they don't know their password so my new one can't LOL. Is > there a way to see the password on my old phone or is that hidden for > security. > Thanks for any thoughts on the issues > Tessa > And a happy new year to all > My groups > blind gardener blind-gardener-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > writing blind writingblind-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > -- > You received this message because you a
Re: Upgraded to 4s
All modern routers we've had, have a label stuck to the back or bottom and the password is unique; or their security would be worthless. This includes those provided by cable providers. RobH. - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" To: Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 5:08 PM Subject: RE: Upgraded to 4s Hi Tessa, Starting at the end of your post, the WiFi password cannot be viewed. Depending on which router they have, you can see the WiFi password and change it if you know how to log on to the router, but that of course requires a password as well. If your parents never changed it, then you can find out what the default router password is by doing a Google search for your brand/model of router, often a particular brand uses the same default password. For example, Netgear routers usually use "admin" as the user name and "password" as the password. Of course this is supposed to be changed by the user, but you'd be surprised how many users never do change this. If you can't log on to the router you could do a factory reset of the router (there is usually a Pinhole in the back and you poke a paper clip or something like that into it). Of course this would wipe out any custom settings. You will also need the routers Ip address, once again, this is brand specific. Many use 192.168.0.1, some use 192.168.1.1 (Netgear) and there maybe others. OK, now as far as your apps are concerned, you can keep your phones in sync if you use the same Apple Id on both phones and if you go into "Settings" and "Store" and tell both phones to automatically sync apps then if you delete an app on one phone it will also delete from the other phone, if you buy an app on one phone it will also appear on the other phone. Of course if you want to have separate apps, music and so on on each phone you should not enable this. If your iPhone 4 is still in good condition you could ask your provider to give you unlock instructions which they should do if the phone is no longer under contract. Then you can unlock it which would allow you to easily sell it. You can google "iPhone 4 resale values" or something like to get an idea what they are going for. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tessa Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Upgraded to 4s I recently got a 4s but still have my 4. They just took the card from the 4 and put it in the 4s. I had backed up my old phone and then hooked up the new to itunes and it eventually copied my apps and such over. 1 I had entered several contacts on the old phone which never got transfered to the new, someone would call me and then I'd put their name and number in the contact list. Why didn't these get copied over? 2 My apps on the old phone are much more organized than on the new. I can still use the old one and sometimes try out some of my old apps and then delte them. I've also been trying out apps on the new phone and deleting the ones that aren't accessible. I downloaded a whole bunch just for testing purposes and haven't got through them yet. Can I delete apps from the old or the new phone and have the same apps deleted from the other phone. Yes it does seem a bit senseless to have two devices doing the same thing but I haven't decided what to do with the old phone yet. I do have wireless here at home and my old phone can connect to my mom's wireless though they don't know their password so my new one can't LOL. Is there a way to see the password on my old phone or is that hidden for security. Thanks for any thoughts on the issues Tessa And a happy new year to all My groups blind gardener blind-gardener-subscr...@yahoogroups.com writing blind writingblind-subscr...@yahoogroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. T
RE: Upgraded to 4s
Hi Tessa, Starting at the end of your post, the WiFi password cannot be viewed. Depending on which router they have, you can see the WiFi password and change it if you know how to log on to the router, but that of course requires a password as well. If your parents never changed it, then you can find out what the default router password is by doing a Google search for your brand/model of router, often a particular brand uses the same default password. For example, Netgear routers usually use "admin" as the user name and "password" as the password. Of course this is supposed to be changed by the user, but you'd be surprised how many users never do change this. If you can't log on to the router you could do a factory reset of the router (there is usually a Pinhole in the back and you poke a paper clip or something like that into it). Of course this would wipe out any custom settings. You will also need the routers Ip address, once again, this is brand specific. Many use 192.168.0.1, some use 192.168.1.1 (Netgear) and there maybe others. OK, now as far as your apps are concerned, you can keep your phones in sync if you use the same Apple Id on both phones and if you go into "Settings" and "Store" and tell both phones to automatically sync apps then if you delete an app on one phone it will also delete from the other phone, if you buy an app on one phone it will also appear on the other phone. Of course if you want to have separate apps, music and so on on each phone you should not enable this. If your iPhone 4 is still in good condition you could ask your provider to give you unlock instructions which they should do if the phone is no longer under contract. Then you can unlock it which would allow you to easily sell it. You can google "iPhone 4 resale values" or something like to get an idea what they are going for. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tessa Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Upgraded to 4s I recently got a 4s but still have my 4. They just took the card from the 4 and put it in the 4s. I had backed up my old phone and then hooked up the new to itunes and it eventually copied my apps and such over. 1 I had entered several contacts on the old phone which never got transfered to the new, someone would call me and then I'd put their name and number in the contact list. Why didn't these get copied over? 2 My apps on the old phone are much more organized than on the new. I can still use the old one and sometimes try out some of my old apps and then delte them. I've also been trying out apps on the new phone and deleting the ones that aren't accessible. I downloaded a whole bunch just for testing purposes and haven't got through them yet. Can I delete apps from the old or the new phone and have the same apps deleted from the other phone. Yes it does seem a bit senseless to have two devices doing the same thing but I haven't decided what to do with the old phone yet. I do have wireless here at home and my old phone can connect to my mom's wireless though they don't know their password so my new one can't LOL. Is there a way to see the password on my old phone or is that hidden for security. Thanks for any thoughts on the issues Tessa And a happy new year to all My groups blind gardener blind-gardener-subscr...@yahoogroups.com writing blind writingblind-subscr...@yahoogroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Upgraded to 4s
I recently got a 4s but still have my 4. They just took the card from the 4 and put it in the 4s. I had backed up my old phone and then hooked up the new to itunes and it eventually copied my apps and such over. 1 I had entered several contacts on the old phone which never got transfered to the new, someone would call me and then I'd put their name and number in the contact list. Why didn't these get copied over? 2 My apps on the old phone are much more organized than on the new. I can still use the old one and sometimes try out some of my old apps and then delte them. I've also been trying out apps on the new phone and deleting the ones that aren't accessible. I downloaded a whole bunch just for testing purposes and haven't got through them yet. Can I delete apps from the old or the new phone and have the same apps deleted from the other phone. Yes it does seem a bit senseless to have two devices doing the same thing but I haven't decided what to do with the old phone yet. I do have wireless here at home and my old phone can connect to my mom's wireless though they don't know their password so my new one can't LOL. Is there a way to see the password on my old phone or is that hidden for security. Thanks for any thoughts on the issues Tessa And a happy new year to all My groups blind gardener blind-gardener-subscr...@yahoogroups.com writing blind writingblind-subscr...@yahoogroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.