RE: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

2024-03-09 Thread Richard Turner 
Yes, Apple won’t be aware of things reported on Applevis.  You can also give 
feedback through www.apple.com/feedback   there 
is a form to fill out after selecting the device you are using.

This form can be used for any feedback, accessibility or anything.

 

 

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Debbie,

 

Accessibility reports can be sent to accessibil...@apple.com 
 .  HTH.

 

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On Mar 8, 2024, at 7:22 PM, Debbie April Yuille mailto:debbieap...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I’m not sure where to go to give feedback to Apple directly. So, I reported it 
on Applevis. But as it turns out, there is already mention of that bug.

Debbie

 

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Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2024 6:49 AM
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Subject: Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

 

Well, I figured out what the bullet sign meant. In this case when using the 
characters in the rotor, using voiceover, it refers to when it comes to the 
clock or displaying time in the lock screen, that symbol is a narrow no break  
space.

Sent from my iPhone






On Mar 8, 2024, at 6:39 AM, David Grossoehme mailto:d...@grossoehme.com> > wrote:



Did you report this problem to Apple?

Dave

 

On 3/6/2024 4:31 AM, Debbie April Yuille wrote:

Hi All

I've just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a really strange bug 
with rotor languages and the status bar. When you are using another rotor 
language, other than the default, every time you move to the status bar, by 
either placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will switch to the 
default language when reading. Then when I move away from the status bar, it 
reverts to whatever language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then 
re installing the rotor languages and still the problem persists. This occurs 
on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone 14 pro.

It's not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release another 
update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away.

 

Cheers

Debbie

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Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

2024-03-09 Thread matthew dyer 
Debbie,

Accessibility reports can be sent to accessibil...@apple.com.  HTH.

Matthew



> On Mar 8, 2024, at 7:22 PM, Debbie April Yuille  wrote:
> 
> I’m not sure where to go to give feedback to Apple directly. So, I reported 
> it on Applevis. But as it turns out, there is already mention of that bug.
> Debbie
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Chela Robles
> Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2024 6:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 
> 17.4
>  
> Well, I figured out what the bullet sign meant. In this case when using the 
> characters in the rotor, using voiceover, it refers to when it comes to the 
> clock or displaying time in the lock screen, that symbol is a narrow no break 
>  space.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2024, at 6:39 AM, David Grossoehme > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Did you report this problem to Apple?
>> Dave
>>  
>> On 3/6/2024 4:31 AM, Debbie April Yuille wrote:
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> I've just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a really strange 
>>> bug with rotor languages and the status bar. When you are using another 
>>> rotor language, other than the default, every time you move to the status 
>>> bar, by either placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will 
>>> switch to the default language when reading. Then when I move away from the 
>>> status bar, it reverts to whatever language I'm currently using. I've tried 
>>> uninstalling then re installing the rotor languages and still the problem 
>>> persists. This occurs on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone 14 pro.
>>> It's not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release another 
>>> update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away.
>>>  
>>> Cheers
>>> Debbie
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RE: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

2024-03-08 Thread Debbie April Yuille 
I’m not sure where to go to give feedback to Apple directly. So, I reported it 
on Applevis. But as it turns out, there is already mention of that bug.

Debbie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chela 
Robles
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2024 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

 

Well, I figured out what the bullet sign meant. In this case when using the 
characters in the rotor, using voiceover, it refers to when it comes to the 
clock or displaying time in the lock screen, that symbol is a narrow no break  
space.

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 8, 2024, at 6:39 AM, David Grossoehme  wrote:

 

Did you report this problem to Apple?

Dave

 

On 3/6/2024 4:31 AM, Debbie April Yuille wrote:

Hi All

I've just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a really strange bug 
with rotor languages and the status bar. When you are using another rotor 
language, other than the default, every time you move to the status bar, by 
either placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will switch to the 
default language when reading. Then when I move away from the status bar, it 
reverts to whatever language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then 
re installing the rotor languages and still the problem persists. This occurs 
on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone 14 pro.

It's not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release another 
update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away.

 

Cheers

Debbie

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Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

2024-03-08 Thread Chela Robles 
Well, I figured out what the bullet sign meant. In this case when using the characters in the rotor, using voiceover, it refers to when it comes to the clock or displaying time in the lock screen, that symbol is a narrow no break  space.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 8, 2024, at 6:39 AM, David Grossoehme  wrote:

  

  
  
Did you report this problem to Apple?
Dave


On 3/6/2024 4:31 AM, Debbie April
  Yuille wrote:


  
  
  
  
Hi
All
I've
just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a
really strange bug with rotor languages and the status bar.
When you are using another rotor language, other than the
default, every time you move to the status bar, by either
placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will
switch to the default language when reading. Then when I
move away from the status bar, it reverts to whatever
language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then
re installing the rotor languages and still the problem
persists. This occurs on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone
14 pro.
It's
not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release
another update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away.
 
Cheers
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Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

2024-03-08 Thread Chela Robles 
I have also noticed a minor bug with voiceover and braille display more specifically when it comes to displaying time in general and not sure if this is a new standard but when I see the time in the clock like the current time, and also on the locked screen, I see for example, 12:34•PM displayed on the braille display. I have the e-reader from Humanware and NLS, and the Humanware Brailliant BI-X-40. Anyone notice this? Usually there is supposed to be a space between the time and whether it's AM or PM. Is this a new braille UEB rule I should take into consideration  or am I crazy? I've never seen time written like that. Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 8, 2024, at 6:39 AM, David Grossoehme  wrote:

  

  
  
Did you report this problem to Apple?
Dave


On 3/6/2024 4:31 AM, Debbie April
  Yuille wrote:


  
  
  
  
Hi
All
I've
just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a
really strange bug with rotor languages and the status bar.
When you are using another rotor language, other than the
default, every time you move to the status bar, by either
placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will
switch to the default language when reading. Then when I
move away from the status bar, it reverts to whatever
language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then
re installing the rotor languages and still the problem
persists. This occurs on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone
14 pro.
It's
not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release
another update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away.
 
Cheers
Debbie
  
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Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

2024-03-08 Thread David Grossoehme 

Did you report this problem to Apple?

Dave


On 3/6/2024 4:31 AM, Debbie April Yuille wrote:


Hi All

I've just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a really 
strange bug with rotor languages and the status bar. When you are 
using another rotor language, other than the default, every time you 
move to the status bar, by either placing your finger on it, or using 
the shortcut. VO will switch to the default language when reading. 
Then when I move away from the status bar, it reverts to whatever 
language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then re 
installing the rotor languages and still the problem persists. This 
occurs on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone 14 pro.


It's not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release 
another update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away.


Cheers

Debbie

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RE: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

2024-03-06 Thread Richard Turner 
What I find interesting about this is that on my 13 pro, I use Tom Enhanced 
most of the time but have Ava set as my default.

I touch the status bar and it is always Tom speaking.  It has never switched to 
Ava in iOS 17.4.

I guess I’m lucky.

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
April Yuille
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 5:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

 

Ah, somehow I missed that article.

 

Thanks

Debbie

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 10:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

 

If you read the apple Viz article that Richard posted, this bug was mentioned.

Sent from Joshua’s superb 13 pro max

 

On Mar 6, 2024, at 4:20 AM, Alex Stone mailto:alex.stonefootball...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Debbie, which phone have you got?

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 6 Mar 2024, at 09:31, Debbie April Yuille mailto:debbieap...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi All

I've just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a really strange bug 
with rotor languages and the status bar. When you are using another rotor 
language, other than the default, every time you move to the status bar, by 
either placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will switch to the 
default language when reading. Then when I move away from the status bar, it 
reverts to whatever language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then 
re installing the rotor languages and still the problem persists. This occurs 
on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone 14 pro.

It's not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release another 
update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away.

 

Cheers

Debbie

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RE: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

2024-03-06 Thread Debbie April Yuille 
Ah, somehow I missed that article.

 

Thanks

Debbie

 

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Subject: Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

 

If you read the apple Viz article that Richard posted, this bug was mentioned.

Sent from Joshua’s superb 13 pro max





On Mar 6, 2024, at 4:20 AM, Alex Stone  wrote:

Debbie, which phone have you got?

Sent from my iPhone





On 6 Mar 2024, at 09:31, Debbie April Yuille  wrote:



Hi All

I've just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a really strange bug 
with rotor languages and the status bar. When you are using another rotor 
language, other than the default, every time you move to the status bar, by 
either placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will switch to the 
default language when reading. Then when I move away from the status bar, it 
reverts to whatever language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then 
re installing the rotor languages and still the problem persists. This occurs 
on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone 14 pro.

It's not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release another 
update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away.

 

Cheers

Debbie

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Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

2024-03-06 Thread Joshua Hendrickson 
If you read the apple Viz article that Richard posted, this bug was mentioned.Sent from Joshua’s superb 13 pro maxOn Mar 6, 2024, at 4:20 AM, Alex Stone  wrote:Debbie, which phone have you got?Sent from my iPhoneOn 6 Mar 2024, at 09:31, Debbie April Yuille  wrote:Hi AllI've just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a really strange bug with rotor languages and the status bar. When you are using another rotor language, other than the default, every time you move to the status bar, by either placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will switch to the default language when reading. Then when I move away from the status bar, it reverts to whatever language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then re installing the rotor languages and still the problem persists. This occurs on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone 14 pro.It's not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release another update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away. CheersDebbie



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Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

2024-03-06 Thread Alex Stone 
Debbie, which phone have you got?Sent from my iPhoneOn 6 Mar 2024, at 09:31, Debbie April Yuille  wrote:Hi AllI've just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a really strange bug with rotor languages and the status bar. When you are using another rotor language, other than the default, every time you move to the status bar, by either placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will switch to the default language when reading. Then when I move away from the status bar, it reverts to whatever language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then re installing the rotor languages and still the problem persists. This occurs on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone 14 pro.It's not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release another update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away. CheersDebbie



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Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

2024-03-06 Thread Debbie April Yuille 
Hi All

I've just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a really strange
bug with rotor languages and the status bar. When you are using another
rotor language, other than the default, every time you move to the status
bar, by either placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will
switch to the default language when reading. Then when I move away from the
status bar, it reverts to whatever language I'm currently using. I've tried
uninstalling then re installing the rotor languages and still the problem
persists. This occurs on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone 14 pro.

It's not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release another
update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away.

 

Cheers

Debbie

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