Re: Voiceover gestures for going to the bottom of the list in a big long scroll area

[Mary Otten]

Well, after further experimentation, I really don't know what is going on. It 
has actually worked once or twice to put me at the bottom where I wanted to be 
with the foreign-language channels. Other times, no dice. I have no idea why 
this might be. It's very weird.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hello, my experience is flicking left from the first bottom tab, brings me to 
> that 999 channel.  Actually, now there’s some 1995 service check channel.
> 
> This flick left from the bottom row of tabs is working whether I have all 
> channels showing or if I narrow the list to my favorites.
> 
> I agree though, I wish there was something as seamless and consistent as the 
> tap in the status bar.  I use that gesture often.  Frankly, the four-finger 
> single tap towards the bottom is always annoying.  Lol!
> 
> Good luck to you.  I hope you can get it to work.
> 
> Traci
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> I have started my phone in the recent past. I am running the beta. But this 
>> problem did not  start with the beta. I think it was around in 10.2. I would 
>> be curious what other TV guide users are experiencing. And if there are any 
>> beta folks who want to talk about beta, of course it can't be on the list, 
>> so please write me privately.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> That’s correct, when I flick left, I land on channel 999, which is a 
>>> Comcast employee channel or something.
>>> It is on row something like 570.
>>> When you flick left from “Listings” It should scroll to the bottom.
>>> Have you by chance restarted your phone?
>>> VO is not performing correctly in this case for you.
>>> 
 On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Hi Paul,
 When I am in the listings tab and I flick left, I get the last listing on 
 the first screen of channels. But since I am subscribed to a satellite 
 thing, DirecTV, there are hundreds of rose. And I wanted to go down to the 
 very end, because that's where the foreign-language programming is. 
 Eventually, I will go through and make favorites and my list will be 
 shorter. But it will still be several screens of channels, and I would 
 like to have a way to get to the end quickly. so are you saying that when 
 you flick left, let's say you have to hundred channels, you end up at 
 channel 200? Or I should say Road 200 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> So I just tried to reproduce your problem. I didn’t realize that the list 
> had the tabs across the bottom. From within the “Listings” tab, I focus 
> on the Listings button, and flick left and my focus is now at the bottom 
> of the listing of channels. I’m not sure why this is not working for you. 
> What behavior are you getting when you flick left from the listings 
> button?
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> OK. I guess what I want doesn't exist. That for finger single tap just 
>> goes to the bottom of the screen. I want to go to the bottom of the 
>> whole business, like what happens when you do a single finger tap in the 
>> status bar and you're taking back from wherever you are up to the very 
>> top of the entire screen or list or webpage or whatever. We need 
>> something like that to get to the bottom of a great long list like what 
>> happens when you're looking at the TV Guide app with a whole bunch of 
>> channels.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:11 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> you want to do a 4 finger single tap on the bottom half of the screen, 
>>> and this should take focus to the bottom of the list.
>>> Take care.
>>> 
 On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Hi all, I think there is something to do with a four finger tap to get 
 you to the top or the bottom of a big long list. I never use it. In 
 order to get to the top, I always double tap with a single finger up 
 in the status bar, and it works every time like a charm. However, for 
 getting to the list bottom, how do you do that? A single tap with 
 forefingers does nothing. A double tap wants to call up some kind of 
 help thing. So, for instance, in the TV Guide app, where I have 1200 
 lines in the list, how do I get to the bottom without having to scroll 
 all that way which is absurd?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent 

Re: Voiceover gestures for going to the bottom of the list in a big long scroll area

[Traci Duncan]

Hello, my experience is flicking left from the first bottom tab, brings me to 
that 999 channel.  Actually, now there’s some 1995 service check channel.

This flick left from the bottom row of tabs is working whether I have all 
channels showing or if I narrow the list to my favorites.

I agree though, I wish there was something as seamless and consistent as the 
tap in the status bar.  I use that gesture often.  Frankly, the four-finger 
single tap towards the bottom is always annoying.  Lol!

Good luck to you.  I hope you can get it to work.

Traci

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul,
> I have started my phone in the recent past. I am running the beta. But this 
> problem did not  start with the beta. I think it was around in 10.2. I would 
> be curious what other TV guide users are experiencing. And if there are any 
> beta folks who want to talk about beta, of course it can't be on the list, so 
> please write me privately.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> That’s correct, when I flick left, I land on channel 999, which is a Comcast 
>> employee channel or something.
>> It is on row something like 570.
>> When you flick left from “Listings” It should scroll to the bottom.
>> Have you by chance restarted your phone?
>> VO is not performing correctly in this case for you.
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Paul,
>>> When I am in the listings tab and I flick left, I get the last listing on 
>>> the first screen of channels. But since I am subscribed to a satellite 
>>> thing, DirecTV, there are hundreds of rose. And I wanted to go down to the 
>>> very end, because that's where the foreign-language programming is. 
>>> Eventually, I will go through and make favorites and my list will be 
>>> shorter. But it will still be several screens of channels, and I would like 
>>> to have a way to get to the end quickly. so are you saying that when you 
>>> flick left, let's say you have to hundred channels, you end up at channel 
>>> 200? Or I should say Road 200 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 So I just tried to reproduce your problem. I didn’t realize that the list 
 had the tabs across the bottom. From within the “Listings” tab, I focus on 
 the Listings button, and flick left and my focus is now at the bottom of 
 the listing of channels. I’m not sure why this is not working for you. 
 What behavior are you getting when you flick left from the listings button?
 
> On Jan 28, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul,
> OK. I guess what I want doesn't exist. That for finger single tap just 
> goes to the bottom of the screen. I want to go to the bottom of the whole 
> business, like what happens when you do a single finger tap in the status 
> bar and you're taking back from wherever you are up to the very top of 
> the entire screen or list or webpage or whatever. We need something like 
> that to get to the bottom of a great long list like what happens when 
> you're looking at the TV Guide app with a whole bunch of channels.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:11 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> you want to do a 4 finger single tap on the bottom half of the screen, 
>> and this should take focus to the bottom of the list.
>> Take care.
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, I think there is something to do with a four finger tap to get 
>>> you to the top or the bottom of a big long list. I never use it. In 
>>> order to get to the top, I always double tap with a single finger up in 
>>> the status bar, and it works every time like a charm. However, for 
>>> getting to the list bottom, how do you do that? A single tap with 
>>> forefingers does nothing. A double tap wants to call up some kind of 
>>> help thing. So, for instance, in the TV Guide app, where I have 1200 
>>> lines in the list, how do I get to the bottom without having to scroll 
>>> all that way which is absurd?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Voiceover gestures for going to the bottom of the list in a big long scroll area

[Mary Otten]

Hi Paul,
I have started my phone in the recent past. I am running the beta. But this 
problem did not  start with the beta. I think it was around in 10.2. I would be 
curious what other TV guide users are experiencing. And if there are any beta 
folks who want to talk about beta, of course it can't be on the list, so please 
write me privately.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> That’s correct, when I flick left, I land on channel 999, which is a Comcast 
> employee channel or something.
> It is on row something like 570.
> When you flick left from “Listings” It should scroll to the bottom.
> Have you by chance restarted your phone?
> VO is not performing correctly in this case for you.
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> When I am in the listings tab and I flick left, I get the last listing on 
>> the first screen of channels. But since I am subscribed to a satellite 
>> thing, DirecTV, there are hundreds of rose. And I wanted to go down to the 
>> very end, because that's where the foreign-language programming is. 
>> Eventually, I will go through and make favorites and my list will be 
>> shorter. But it will still be several screens of channels, and I would like 
>> to have a way to get to the end quickly. so are you saying that when you 
>> flick left, let's say you have to hundred channels, you end up at channel 
>> 200? Or I should say Road 200 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> So I just tried to reproduce your problem. I didn’t realize that the list 
>>> had the tabs across the bottom. From within the “Listings” tab, I focus on 
>>> the Listings button, and flick left and my focus is now at the bottom of 
>>> the listing of channels. I’m not sure why this is not working for you. What 
>>> behavior are you getting when you flick left from the listings button?
>>> 
 On Jan 28, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Hi Paul,
 OK. I guess what I want doesn't exist. That for finger single tap just 
 goes to the bottom of the screen. I want to go to the bottom of the whole 
 business, like what happens when you do a single finger tap in the status 
 bar and you're taking back from wherever you are up to the very top of the 
 entire screen or list or webpage or whatever. We need something like that 
 to get to the bottom of a great long list like what happens when you're 
 looking at the TV Guide app with a whole bunch of channels.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:11 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> you want to do a 4 finger single tap on the bottom half of the screen, 
> and this should take focus to the bottom of the list.
> Take care.
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, I think there is something to do with a four finger tap to get 
>> you to the top or the bottom of a big long list. I never use it. In 
>> order to get to the top, I always double tap with a single finger up in 
>> the status bar, and it works every time like a charm. However, for 
>> getting to the list bottom, how do you do that? A single tap with 
>> forefingers does nothing. A double tap wants to call up some kind of 
>> help thing. So, for instance, in the TV Guide app, where I have 1200 
>> lines in the list, how do I get to the bottom without having to scroll 
>> all that way which is absurd?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Voiceover gestures for going to the bottom of the list in a big long scroll area

[Paul Sandoval]

Mary,

That’s correct, when I flick left, I land on channel 999, which is a Comcast 
employee channel or something.
It is on row something like 570.
When you flick left from “Listings” It should scroll to the bottom.
Have you by chance restarted your phone?
VO is not performing correctly in this case for you.

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul,
> When I am in the listings tab and I flick left, I get the last listing on the 
> first screen of channels. But since I am subscribed to a satellite thing, 
> DirecTV, there are hundreds of rose. And I wanted to go down to the very end, 
> because that's where the foreign-language programming is. Eventually, I will 
> go through and make favorites and my list will be shorter. But it will still 
> be several screens of channels, and I would like to have a way to get to the 
> end quickly. so are you saying that when you flick left, let's say you have 
> to hundred channels, you end up at channel 200? Or I should say Road 200 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> So I just tried to reproduce your problem. I didn’t realize that the list 
>> had the tabs across the bottom. From within the “Listings” tab, I focus on 
>> the Listings button, and flick left and my focus is now at the bottom of the 
>> listing of channels. I’m not sure why this is not working for you. What 
>> behavior are you getting when you flick left from the listings button?
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Paul,
>>> OK. I guess what I want doesn't exist. That for finger single tap just goes 
>>> to the bottom of the screen. I want to go to the bottom of the whole 
>>> business, like what happens when you do a single finger tap in the status 
>>> bar and you're taking back from wherever you are up to the very top of the 
>>> entire screen or list or webpage or whatever. We need something like that 
>>> to get to the bottom of a great long list like what happens when you're 
>>> looking at the TV Guide app with a whole bunch of channels.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:11 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
 
 Mary,
 
 you want to do a 4 finger single tap on the bottom half of the screen, and 
 this should take focus to the bottom of the list.
 Take care.
 
> On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I think there is something to do with a four finger tap to get 
> you to the top or the bottom of a big long list. I never use it. In order 
> to get to the top, I always double tap with a single finger up in the 
> status bar, and it works every time like a charm. However, for getting to 
> the list bottom, how do you do that? A single tap with forefingers does 
> nothing. A double tap wants to call up some kind of help thing. So, for 
> instance, in the TV Guide app, where I have 1200 lines in the list, how 
> do I get to the bottom without having to scroll all that way which is 
> absurd?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Voiceover gestures for going to the bottom of the list in a big long scroll area

[Mary Otten]

Hi Paul,
When I am in the listings tab and I flick left, I get the last listing on the 
first screen of channels. But since I am subscribed to a satellite thing, 
DirecTV, there are hundreds of rose. And I wanted to go down to the very end, 
because that's where the foreign-language programming is. Eventually, I will go 
through and make favorites and my list will be shorter. But it will still be 
several screens of channels, and I would like to have a way to get to the end 
quickly. so are you saying that when you flick left, let's say you have to 
hundred channels, you end up at channel 200? Or I should say Road 200 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> So I just tried to reproduce your problem. I didn’t realize that the list had 
> the tabs across the bottom. From within the “Listings” tab, I focus on the 
> Listings button, and flick left and my focus is now at the bottom of the 
> listing of channels. I’m not sure why this is not working for you. What 
> behavior are you getting when you flick left from the listings button?
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> OK. I guess what I want doesn't exist. That for finger single tap just goes 
>> to the bottom of the screen. I want to go to the bottom of the whole 
>> business, like what happens when you do a single finger tap in the status 
>> bar and you're taking back from wherever you are up to the very top of the 
>> entire screen or list or webpage or whatever. We need something like that to 
>> get to the bottom of a great long list like what happens when you're looking 
>> at the TV Guide app with a whole bunch of channels.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:11 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> you want to do a 4 finger single tap on the bottom half of the screen, and 
>>> this should take focus to the bottom of the list.
>>> Take care.
>>> 
 On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Hi all, I think there is something to do with a four finger tap to get you 
 to the top or the bottom of a big long list. I never use it. In order to 
 get to the top, I always double tap with a single finger up in the status 
 bar, and it works every time like a charm. However, for getting to the 
 list bottom, how do you do that? A single tap with forefingers does 
 nothing. A double tap wants to call up some kind of help thing. So, for 
 instance, in the TV Guide app, where I have 1200 lines in the list, how do 
 I get to the bottom without having to scroll all that way which is absurd?
 Mary
 
 
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Re: Voiceover gestures for going to the bottom of the list in a big long scroll area

[Paul Sandoval]

Hi Mary,

So I just tried to reproduce your problem. I didn’t realize that the list had 
the tabs across the bottom. From within the “Listings” tab, I focus on the 
Listings button, and flick left and my focus is now at the bottom of the 
listing of channels. I’m not sure why this is not working for you. What 
behavior are you getting when you flick left from the listings button?

> On Jan 28, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul,
> OK. I guess what I want doesn't exist. That for finger single tap just goes 
> to the bottom of the screen. I want to go to the bottom of the whole 
> business, like what happens when you do a single finger tap in the status bar 
> and you're taking back from wherever you are up to the very top of the entire 
> screen or list or webpage or whatever. We need something like that to get to 
> the bottom of a great long list like what happens when you're looking at the 
> TV Guide app with a whole bunch of channels.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:11 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> you want to do a 4 finger single tap on the bottom half of the screen, and 
>> this should take focus to the bottom of the list.
>> Take care.
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, I think there is something to do with a four finger tap to get you 
>>> to the top or the bottom of a big long list. I never use it. In order to 
>>> get to the top, I always double tap with a single finger up in the status 
>>> bar, and it works every time like a charm. However, for getting to the list 
>>> bottom, how do you do that? A single tap with forefingers does nothing. A 
>>> double tap wants to call up some kind of help thing. So, for instance, in 
>>> the TV Guide app, where I have 1200 lines in the list, how do I get to the 
>>> bottom without having to scroll all that way which is absurd?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Voiceover gestures for going to the bottom of the list in a big long scroll area

[Mary Otten]

Hi Mike,
That's nice. But not relevant, since I'm talking about an iPhone, not a Mac. 
Maybe Apple will let us have customized gestures at some point in the future.
Mary


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> On Jan 29, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> On my macbook, I actually made up two custom gestures for this. I set 
> option+swipe up for go to top, and option+swipe down for go to bottom, works 
> every time.
>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 8:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, I think there is something to do with a four finger tap to get you 
>> to the top or the bottom of a big long list. I never use it. In order to get 
>> to the top, I always double tap with a single finger up in the status bar, 
>> and it works every time like a charm. However, for getting to the list 
>> bottom, how do you do that? A single tap with forefingers does nothing. A 
>> double tap wants to call up some kind of help thing. So, for instance, in 
>> the TV Guide app, where I have 1200 lines in the list, how do I get to the 
>> bottom without having to scroll all that way which is absurd?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
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Re: Voiceover gestures for going to the bottom of the list in a big long scroll area

[Mike Arrigo]

On my macbook, I actually made up two custom gestures for this. I set 
option+swipe up for go to top, and option+swipe down for go to bottom, works 
every time.
> On Jan 28, 2017, at 8:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I think there is something to do with a four finger tap to get you to 
> the top or the bottom of a big long list. I never use it. In order to get to 
> the top, I always double tap with a single finger up in the status bar, and 
> it works every time like a charm. However, for getting to the list bottom, 
> how do you do that? A single tap with forefingers does nothing. A double tap 
> wants to call up some kind of help thing. So, for instance, in the TV Guide 
> app, where I have 1200 lines in the list, how do I get to the bottom without 
> having to scroll all that way which is absurd?
> Mary
> 
> 
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Re: Voiceover gestures for going to the bottom of the list in a big long scroll area

[Mary Otten]

 That is a good thought. And I know that works in some apps. But not here, 
unless I'm missing something. This is the TV Guide app which several people 
have talked about from time to time, most recently Mark Taylor. If it's 
possible to touch the tabs at the bottom and then his flick left and get to the 
very bottom of the entire list, I would love to know how. It's certainly not 
working that way here.
Mary


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> On Jan 28, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> by chance are there tabs at the bottom just above the home button? If so 
> touch there then flick left and that should get you to the bottom of the list.
> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Voiceover gestures for going to the bottom of the list in a big 
> long scroll area
> 
> 
> Hi Paul,
> OK. I guess what I want doesn't exist. That for finger single tap just goes 
> to the bottom of the screen. I want to go to the bottom of the whole 
> business, like what happens when you do a single finger tap in the status bar 
> and you're taking back from wherever you are up to the very top of the entire 
> screen or list or webpage or whatever. We need something like that to get to 
> the bottom of a great long list like what happens when you're looking at the 
> TV Guide app with a whole bunch of channels.
> Mary
> 
> 
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>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:11 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> you want to do a 4 finger single tap on the bottom half of the screen, and 
>> this should take focus to the bottom of the list.
>> Take care.
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, I think there is something to do with a four finger tap to get you 
>>> to the top or the bottom of a big long list. I never use it. In order to 
>>> get to the top, I always double tap with a single finger up in the status 
>>> bar, and it works every time like a charm. However, for getting to the list 
>>> bottom, how do you do that? A single tap with forefingers does nothing. A 
>>> double tap wants to call up some kind of help thing. So, for instance, in 
>>> the TV Guide app, where I have 1200 lines in the list, how do I get to the 
>>> bottom without having to scroll all that way which is absurd?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Voiceover gestures for going to the bottom of the list in a big long scroll area

[Robert Doc Wright]

by chance are there tabs at the bottom just above the home button? If so 
touch there then flick left and that should get you to the bottom of the 
list.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: Voiceover gestures for going to the bottom of the list in a big 
long scroll area



Hi Paul,
OK. I guess what I want doesn't exist. That for finger single tap just goes 
to the bottom of the screen. I want to go to the bottom of the whole 
business, like what happens when you do a single finger tap in the status 
bar and you're taking back from wherever you are up to the very top of the 
entire screen or list or webpage or whatever. We need something like that to 
get to the bottom of a great long list like what happens when you're looking 
at the TV Guide app with a whole bunch of channels.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:11 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:

Mary,

you want to do a 4 finger single tap on the bottom half of the screen, and 
this should take focus to the bottom of the list.

Take care.


On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Hi all, I think there is something to do with a four finger tap to get 
you to the top or the bottom of a big long list. I never use it. In order 
to get to the top, I always double tap with a single finger up in the 
status bar, and it works every time like a charm. However, for getting to 
the list bottom, how do you do that? A single tap with forefingers does 
nothing. A double tap wants to call up some kind of help thing. So, for 
instance, in the TV Guide app, where I have 1200 lines in the list, how 
do I get to the bottom without having to scroll all that way which is 
absurd?

Mary


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Re: Voiceover gestures for going to the bottom of the list in a big long scroll area

[Mary Otten]

Hi Paul,
OK. I guess what I want doesn't exist. That for finger single tap just goes to 
the bottom of the screen. I want to go to the bottom of the whole business, 
like what happens when you do a single finger tap in the status bar and you're 
taking back from wherever you are up to the very top of the entire screen or 
list or webpage or whatever. We need something like that to get to the bottom 
of a great long list like what happens when you're looking at the TV Guide app 
with a whole bunch of channels.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:11 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> you want to do a 4 finger single tap on the bottom half of the screen, and 
> this should take focus to the bottom of the list.
> Take care.
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, I think there is something to do with a four finger tap to get you 
>> to the top or the bottom of a big long list. I never use it. In order to get 
>> to the top, I always double tap with a single finger up in the status bar, 
>> and it works every time like a charm. However, for getting to the list 
>> bottom, how do you do that? A single tap with forefingers does nothing. A 
>> double tap wants to call up some kind of help thing. So, for instance, in 
>> the TV Guide app, where I have 1200 lines in the list, how do I get to the 
>> bottom without having to scroll all that way which is absurd?
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: Voiceover gestures for going to the bottom of the list in a big long scroll area

[Paul Sandoval]

Mary,

you want to do a 4 finger single tap on the bottom half of the screen, and this 
should take focus to the bottom of the list.
Take care.

> On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I think there is something to do with a four finger tap to get you to 
> the top or the bottom of a big long list. I never use it. In order to get to 
> the top, I always double tap with a single finger up in the status bar, and 
> it works every time like a charm. However, for getting to the list bottom, 
> how do you do that? A single tap with forefingers does nothing. A double tap 
> wants to call up some kind of help thing. So, for instance, in the TV Guide 
> app, where I have 1200 lines in the list, how do I get to the bottom without 
> having to scroll all that way which is absurd?
> Mary
> 
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[Mary Otten]

Hi all, I think there is something to do with a four finger tap to get you to 
the top or the bottom of a big long list. I never use it. In order to get to 
the top, I always double tap with a single finger up in the status bar, and it 
works every time like a charm. However, for getting to the list bottom, how do 
you do that? A single tap with forefingers does nothing. A double tap wants to 
call up some kind of help thing. So, for instance, in the TV Guide app, where I 
have 1200 lines in the list, how do I get to the bottom without having to 
scroll all that way which is absurd?
Mary


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