Re: copy and paste with braille display

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Stephanie. There are a couple of ways to select text. First, you choose 
what to select characters words or lines. After you do this you can use chord 
dots 2 5 6 to select. You can also switch to text selection with chord dots 5 
6. Then flick right with chord dot 6 to select the unit then the dot 4 chord to 
make your selection. Also, dots 1 3 chord is the cut command.
I hope this helps. 

> On Nov 8, 2015, at 12:34 AM, Stephanie  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> How do I select text, copy and paste with my braille display? 
> Is this possible? 
> I can do it with out the display but think using the braille would be quicker.
> Steph
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Christopher Chaltain  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2015 8:52 am
> Subject: List for blind beta users [was "Re: MODERATOR NOTE:  Posting Beta 
> Questions to the List Will Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status"]
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is this Apple Beta Discussions list specifically for blind beta users or 
>> any beta users, sighted or blind. I'd be interested in joining a list 
>> for blind beta users to hear about and talk about accessibility and 
>> VoiceOver issues in the beta, but I'd be worried that a general list for 
>> beta users would involve more traffic than I'd like to get.
>> 
>> BTW, I think it's on topic for this list to share information about 
>> other mailing lists. I'm not sure we need to be policing those other 
>> lists though. People can find out on their own if it violates the NDA to 
>> join such a list or not.
>> 
>>> On 11/07/2015 02:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>>> You're right. I forgot to say the additional information. The list won't 
>>> let you join if you don't have the beta installed. They'll ask you if you 
>>> have a beta of iOS 9 or a beta of El Capitan. They also ask where your 
>>> feedback assistant is on either your Mac or iPhone. Matthew Dierckens and 
>>> Aleeha Dudley are mods of that list.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On Nov 7, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 Excuse me, but unless you have to be a beta tester to join that list that 
 is flying in the face of the NDA and I suspect the policy of this list as 
 well.
 Richard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Shawn Krasniuk
 Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 12:24 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
 Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
 
 Hi William. I'm subscribed to the list that does talk about beta versions. 
 If you want to subscribe to it, the address is 
 apple-beta-discussion+subscr...@googlegroups.com.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
 Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
 Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
 Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
 
> On Nov 7, 2015, at 6:57 AM, William Windels  
> wrote:
> 
> He all,
> I agree of course with the described rules.
> However, since there are (always) public beta's available, it should be 
> great to have a low-level place to discuss accessibility-related problems.
> So perhaps, important voiceover-bugs can be solved before the public 
> release.
> And also perhaps , not everyone is familiar with the developer's platform 
> from apple to discuss there.
> 
> It's not my suggestion to ignore the mda-rules of apple in the first 
> place but I want announce the problem for some users to announce and 
> discuss accessibility problems in pre-release-versions of osx/ios.
> Apple accessibility it self will not do something with pre-release 
> questions , send by mail.
> Kind regards,
> William Windels
>> Op 7 nov. 2015, om 08:00 heeft M. Taylor  het volgende 
>> geschreven:
>> 
>> Hello Alex,
>> 
>> You ask an excellent question.
>> 
>> You are correct.  As you stated, questions about how to sign up for the 
>> beta programs or downgrading devices are fine.  However, beta-specific 
>> questions or details, any issues covered by an NDA, should not be 
>> posted-on-list.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 8:31 PM
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
>> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
>> Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
>> 
>> Mark,
>> I 

Re: copy and paste with braille display

[Paul Richard McGann]

paul,

nice, and according to the way of cut, copy and paste, I would say chord x 
(dot 1,3,4,6 for cut, cord c (dot 1,4) for copy and chord v (dot 1,2,3,6) 
for paste.


am I correct? thank you!

-Original Message- 
From: Paul Hunt

Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 7:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: copy and paste with braille display

Hello Stephanie. There are a couple of ways to select text. First, you 
choose what to select characters words or lines. After you do this you can 
use chord dots 2 5 6 to select. You can also switch to text selection with 
chord dots 5 6. Then flick right with chord dot 6 to select the unit then 
the dot 4 chord to make your selection. Also, dots 1 3 chord is the cut 
command.

I hope this helps.


On Nov 8, 2015, at 12:34 AM, Stephanie <natureloving...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
How do I select text, copy and paste with my braille display?
Is this possible?
I can do it with out the display but think using the braille would be 
quicker.

Steph

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2015 8:52 am
Subject: List for blind beta users [was "Re: MODERATOR NOTE:  Posting Beta 
Questions to the List Will Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status"]





Is this Apple Beta Discussions list specifically for blind beta users or
any beta users, sighted or blind. I'd be interested in joining a list
for blind beta users to hear about and talk about accessibility and
VoiceOver issues in the beta, but I'd be worried that a general list for
beta users would involve more traffic than I'd like to get.

BTW, I think it's on topic for this list to share information about
other mailing lists. I'm not sure we need to be policing those other
lists though. People can find out on their own if it violates the NDA to
join such a list or not.


On 11/07/2015 02:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
You're right. I forgot to say the additional information. The list won't 
let you join if you don't have the beta installed. They'll ask you if 
you have a beta of iOS 9 or a beta of El Capitan. They also ask where 
your feedback assistant is on either your Mac or iPhone. Matthew 
Dierckens and Aleeha Dudley are mods of that list.


Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

On Nov 7, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:


Excuse me, but unless you have to be a beta tester to join that list 
that is flying in the face of the NDA and I suspect the policy of this 
list as well.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk

Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status


Hi William. I'm subscribed to the list that does talk about beta 
versions. If you want to subscribe to it, the address is 
apple-beta-discussion+subscr...@googlegroups.com.


Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

On Nov 7, 2015, at 6:57 AM, William Windels 
<william.wind...@gmail.com> wrote:


He all,
I agree of course with the described rules.
However, since there are (always) public beta's available, it should 
be great to have a low-level place to discuss accessibility-related 
problems.
So perhaps, important voiceover-bugs can be solved before the public 
release.
And also perhaps , not everyone is familiar with the developer's 
platform from apple to discuss there.


It's not my suggestion to ignore the mda-rules of apple in the first 
place but I want announce the problem for some users to announce and 
discuss accessibility problems in pre-release-versions of osx/ios.
Apple accessibility it self will not do something with pre-release 
questions , send by mail.

Kind regards,
William Windels
Op 7 nov. 2015, om 08:00 heeft M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> het 
volgende geschreven:


Hello Alex,

You ask an excellent question.

You are correct.  As you stated, questions about how to sign up for 
the beta programs or downgrading devices are fine.  However, 
beta-specific questions or details, any issues covered by an NDA, 
should not be posted-on-list.


Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Alex Hall

Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 8:31 PM
To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status


Mark,
I haven't been following the beta testing thread at all, so forgive 
me if this an obvious question. List members can post question

Re: copy and paste with braille display

[liel Ben Simon ‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎]

Yes you rite. It's correct.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-8 בנוב׳ 2015, בשעה 17:31, ‏‏Paul Richard McGann ‏<rkmcg...@comcast.net> 
כתב/ה:‬

> paul,
> 
> nice, and according to the way of cut, copy and paste, I would say chord x 
> (dot 1,3,4,6 for cut, cord c (dot 1,4) for copy and chord v (dot 1,2,3,6) for 
> paste.
> 
> am I correct? thank you!
> 
> -Original Message- From: Paul Hunt
> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 7:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: copy and paste with braille display
> 
> Hello Stephanie. There are a couple of ways to select text. First, you choose 
> what to select characters words or lines. After you do this you can use chord 
> dots 2 5 6 to select. You can also switch to text selection with chord dots 5 
> 6. Then flick right with chord dot 6 to select the unit then the dot 4 chord 
> to make your selection. Also, dots 1 3 chord is the cut command.
> I hope this helps.
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2015, at 12:34 AM, Stephanie <natureloving...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> How do I select text, copy and paste with my braille display?
>> Is this possible?
>> I can do it with out the display but think using the braille would be 
>> quicker.
>> Steph
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2015 8:52 am
>> Subject: List for blind beta users [was "Re: MODERATOR NOTE:  Posting Beta 
>> Questions to the List Will Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status"]
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is this Apple Beta Discussions list specifically for blind beta users or
>>> any beta users, sighted or blind. I'd be interested in joining a list
>>> for blind beta users to hear about and talk about accessibility and
>>> VoiceOver issues in the beta, but I'd be worried that a general list for
>>> beta users would involve more traffic than I'd like to get.
>>> 
>>> BTW, I think it's on topic for this list to share information about
>>> other mailing lists. I'm not sure we need to be policing those other
>>> lists though. People can find out on their own if it violates the NDA to
>>> join such a list or not.
>>> 
>>>> On 11/07/2015 02:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>>>> You're right. I forgot to say the additional information. The list won't 
>>>> let you join if you don't have the beta installed. They'll ask you if you 
>>>> have a beta of iOS 9 or a beta of El Capitan. They also ask where your 
>>>> feedback assistant is on either your Mac or iPhone. Matthew Dierckens and 
>>>> Aleeha Dudley are mods of that list.
>>>> 
>>>> Shawn
>>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Excuse me, but unless you have to be a beta tester to join that list that 
>>>>> is flying in the face of the NDA and I suspect the policy of this list as 
>>>>> well.
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 12:24 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
>>>>> Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi William. I'm subscribed to the list that does talk about beta 
>>>>> versions. If you want to subscribe to it, the address is 
>>>>> apple-beta-discussion+subscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shawn
>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 6:57 AM, William Windels <william.wind...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He all,
>>>>>> I agree of course with the described rul

copy and paste with braille display

[Stephanie]

Hi all,
How do I select text, copy and paste with my braille display? 
Is this possible? 
I can do it with out the display but think using the braille would be quicker.
Steph

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2015 8:52 am
Subject: List for blind beta users [was "Re: MODERATOR NOTE:  Posting Beta 
Questions to the List Will Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status"]

>
>
> Is this Apple Beta Discussions list specifically for blind beta users or 
> any beta users, sighted or blind. I'd be interested in joining a list 
> for blind beta users to hear about and talk about accessibility and 
> VoiceOver issues in the beta, but I'd be worried that a general list for 
> beta users would involve more traffic than I'd like to get.
> 
> BTW, I think it's on topic for this list to share information about 
> other mailing lists. I'm not sure we need to be policing those other 
> lists though. People can find out on their own if it violates the NDA to 
> join such a list or not.
> 
> On 11/07/2015 02:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
> > You're right. I forgot to say the additional information. The list won't 
> > let you join if you don't have the beta installed. They'll ask you if you 
> > have a beta of iOS 9 or a beta of El Capitan. They also ask where your 
> > feedback assistant is on either your Mac or iPhone. Matthew Dierckens and 
> > Aleeha Dudley are mods of that list.
> >
> > Shawn
> > Sent From My White MacBook
> > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> >
> >> On Nov 7, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Richard Turner  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Excuse me, but unless you have to be a beta tester to join that list that 
> >> is flying in the face of the NDA and I suspect the policy of this list as 
> >> well.
> >> Richard
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> >> Of Shawn Krasniuk
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 12:24 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
> >> Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
> >>
> >> Hi William. I'm subscribed to the list that does talk about beta versions. 
> >> If you want to subscribe to it, the address is 
> >> apple-beta-discussion+subscr...@googlegroups.com.
> >>
> >> Shawn
> >> Sent From My White MacBook
> >> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> >> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> >> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> >> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> >>
> >>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 6:57 AM, William Windels  
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> He all,
> >>> I agree of course with the described rules.
> >>> However, since there are (always) public beta's available, it should be 
> >>> great to have a low-level place to discuss accessibility-related problems.
> >>> So perhaps, important voiceover-bugs can be solved before the public 
> >>> release.
> >>> And also perhaps , not everyone is familiar with the developer's platform 
> >>> from apple to discuss there.
> >>>
> >>> It's not my suggestion to ignore the mda-rules of apple in the first 
> >>> place but I want announce the problem for some users to announce and 
> >>> discuss accessibility problems in pre-release-versions of osx/ios.
> >>> Apple accessibility it self will not do something with pre-release 
> >>> questions , send by mail.
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>> William Windels
>  Op 7 nov. 2015, om 08:00 heeft M. Taylor  het volgende 
>  geschreven:
> 
>  Hello Alex,
> 
>  You ask an excellent question.
> 
>  You are correct.  As you stated, questions about how to sign up for the 
>  beta programs or downgrading devices are fine.  However, beta-specific 
>  questions or details, any issues covered by an NDA, should not be 
>  posted-on-list.
> 
>  Mark
> 
>  -Original Message-
>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>  Behalf Of Alex Hall
>  Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 8:31 PM
>  To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
>  Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
>  Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
> 
>  Mark,
>  I haven't been following the beta testing thread at all, so forgive me 
>  if this an obvious question. List members can post questions *about* 
>  testing, correct? Downgrading, signing up, un-enrolling devices, and the 
>  like are all fine, as they aren't covered by NDA. It's only questions 
>  specific to a beta (is this bug fixed in the new beta, and such) that 
>  are the problem? This has long been my understanding of the policy on 
>  this and other lists, but I wanted to check now that it's come up.
> 

Re: copy and paste with braille display

[liel Ben Simon ‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎]

hi stefany, inolther to priform copy, cat and paste press the cord braille 1 
and 4 for coping and1 2 3 6 dots for paste and 1 and 3 to cut.  hope that help. 

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-8 בנוב׳ 2015, בשעה 8:34, ‏‏Stephanie ‏ כתב/ה:‬

> Hi all,
> How do I select text, copy and paste with my braille display? 
> Is this possible? 
> I can do it with out the display but think using the braille would be quicker.
> Steph
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Christopher Chaltain  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2015 8:52 am
> Subject: List for blind beta users [was "Re: MODERATOR NOTE:  Posting Beta 
> Questions to the List Will Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status"]
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is this Apple Beta Discussions list specifically for blind beta users or 
>> any beta users, sighted or blind. I'd be interested in joining a list 
>> for blind beta users to hear about and talk about accessibility and 
>> VoiceOver issues in the beta, but I'd be worried that a general list for 
>> beta users would involve more traffic than I'd like to get.
>> 
>> BTW, I think it's on topic for this list to share information about 
>> other mailing lists. I'm not sure we need to be policing those other 
>> lists though. People can find out on their own if it violates the NDA to 
>> join such a list or not.
>> 
>>> On 11/07/2015 02:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>>> You're right. I forgot to say the additional information. The list won't 
>>> let you join if you don't have the beta installed. They'll ask you if you 
>>> have a beta of iOS 9 or a beta of El Capitan. They also ask where your 
>>> feedback assistant is on either your Mac or iPhone. Matthew Dierckens and 
>>> Aleeha Dudley are mods of that list.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On Nov 7, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 Excuse me, but unless you have to be a beta tester to join that list that 
 is flying in the face of the NDA and I suspect the policy of this list as 
 well.
 Richard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Shawn Krasniuk
 Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 12:24 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
 Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
 
 Hi William. I'm subscribed to the list that does talk about beta versions. 
 If you want to subscribe to it, the address is 
 apple-beta-discussion+subscr...@googlegroups.com.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
 Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
 Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
 Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
 
> On Nov 7, 2015, at 6:57 AM, William Windels  
> wrote:
> 
> He all,
> I agree of course with the described rules.
> However, since there are (always) public beta's available, it should be 
> great to have a low-level place to discuss accessibility-related problems.
> So perhaps, important voiceover-bugs can be solved before the public 
> release.
> And also perhaps , not everyone is familiar with the developer's platform 
> from apple to discuss there.
> 
> It's not my suggestion to ignore the mda-rules of apple in the first 
> place but I want announce the problem for some users to announce and 
> discuss accessibility problems in pre-release-versions of osx/ios.
> Apple accessibility it self will not do something with pre-release 
> questions , send by mail.
> Kind regards,
> William Windels
>> Op 7 nov. 2015, om 08:00 heeft M. Taylor  het volgende 
>> geschreven:
>> 
>> Hello Alex,
>> 
>> You ask an excellent question.
>> 
>> You are correct.  As you stated, questions about how to sign up for the 
>> beta programs or downgrading devices are fine.  However, beta-specific 
>> questions or details, any issues covered by an NDA, should not be 
>> posted-on-list.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 8:31 PM
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
>> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
>> Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
>> 
>> Mark,
>> I haven't been following the beta testing thread at all, so forgive me 
>> if this an obvious question. List members can post questions *about* 
>> testing, correct? Downgrading, signing up, un-enrolling devices, 

Re: copy and paste with braille display

[Stephanie]

Thanks. It's selecting the text that's the issue. I go to text selection in the 
rotor, press the cursor routing button but it won't select text when I try to 
move. 
Steph

- Original Message -
From: 
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  <liel...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2015 5:45 pm
Subject: Re: copy and paste with braille display

>
>
> hi stefany, inolther to priform copy, cat and paste press the cord braille 1 
> and 4 for coping and1 2 3 6 dots for paste and 1 and 3 to cut.  hope that 
> help. 
> 
> Sent from  my iphone
> 
> ??-8 his 2015, ???his 8:34, ?"Stephanie ?<natureloving...@gmail.com> 
> ?""/?:his
> 
> > Hi all,
> > How do I select text, copy and paste with my braille display? 
> > Is this possible? 
> > I can do it with out the display but think using the braille would be 
> > quicker.
> > Steph
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, November 8, 2015 8:52 am
> > Subject: List for blind beta users [was "Re: MODERATOR NOTE:  Posting Beta 
> > Questions to the List Will Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status"]
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Is this Apple Beta Discussions list specifically for blind beta users or 
> >> any beta users, sighted or blind. I'd be interested in joining a list 
> >> for blind beta users to hear about and talk about accessibility and 
> >> VoiceOver issues in the beta, but I'd be worried that a general list for 
> >> beta users would involve more traffic than I'd like to get.
> >> 
> >> BTW, I think it's on topic for this list to share information about 
> >> other mailing lists. I'm not sure we need to be policing those other 
> >> lists though. People can find out on their own if it violates the NDA to 
> >> join such a list or not.
> >> 
> >>> On 11/07/2015 02:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
> >>> You're right. I forgot to say the additional information. The list won't 
> >>> let you join if you don't have the beta installed. They'll ask you if you 
> >>> have a beta of iOS 9 or a beta of El Capitan. They also ask where your 
> >>> feedback assistant is on either your Mac or iPhone. Matthew Dierckens and 
> >>> Aleeha Dudley are mods of that list.
> >>> 
> >>> Shawn
> >>> Sent From My White MacBook
> >>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> >>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> >>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> >>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> >>> 
> >>>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Excuse me, but unless you have to be a beta tester to join that list 
> >>>> that is flying in the face of the NDA and I suspect the policy of this 
> >>>> list as well.
> >>>> Richard
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> -Original Message-
> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> >>>> Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 12:24 PM
> >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
> >>>> Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hi William. I'm subscribed to the list that does talk about beta 
> >>>> versions. If you want to subscribe to it, the address is 
> >>>> apple-beta-discussion+subscr...@googlegroups.com.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Shawn
> >>>> Sent From My White MacBook
> >>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> >>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> >>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> >>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 6:57 AM, William Windels <william.wind...@gmail.com> 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> He all,
> >>>>> I agree of course with the described rules.
> >>>>> However, since there are (always) public beta's available, it should be 
> >>>>> great to have a low-level place to discuss accessibility-related 
> &