Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

2016-11-06 Thread Shaf Patel 
You really didn't need to continue the conversation on another thread,
and nobody is forcing you to switch to UEB despite your claims.

On 11/7/2016 1:30 AM, Todd Patkus wrote:
> Both,
> 
>  
> 
> Despite your statements, I am simply firm about what was said in the
> first place.  Therefore, you cannot tell anyoen what to do and cannot
> force them to go with UEB.
> 
>  
> 
> Shaf, yes, UEB definitely really sucks.  I have found it totally shoddy
> and too many unnecessary characters that are, again, useless eating up
> even more of paper!  I do not follow these shoddy stuff.  I keep all my
> equipment set in computer Braille and set to eight dots.  That is it.
> 
>  
> 
> Flor, you need to understand not all will agree what you said.
> 
>  
> 
> Both:  I did not read all.  I do not care.
> 
>  
> 
> Plezse, this is the bottom line.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

2016-11-06 Thread Flor Lynch 

I Know who I am.
At the moment I use both 'standard English' and UEB.

-Original Message- 
From: Todd Patkus

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 1:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

Flor,

Who do you think you are?

I do not need to go with it.  Yes, BANA is still wrongful.  That stands all 
against them!  Please, no more of this stuff and move on.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Flor Lynch

Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

You're going to have to put up with and use UEB, though, because it's 
becoming more and more established as the new standard Braille writing 
medium in countries all across the Angophone world. Every sigbnificant 
Braille authority in the English-speaking world has adopted UEB.


-Original Message-

From: Todd Patkus

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 12:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

Anna,

Unfortunately, I do not bother the UEB.  I stay with the standard Braille.
Yes, BANA fails to realize that what they did is completely wrong.  No more 
talk on that UEB.  Thanks.


-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner

Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 6:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

Hi,

Braille is set to use UEB by default. If you want to use those contractions, 
go to VoiceOVer Settings, choose Braille, and then Braille Translation. On 
that page, choose English u.S.


Best,
Anna




On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Gerardo Corripio <gera1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Using iOS9.3.5 on an Iphone 4S the Braille keyboard, and some English
Braille contractions such as the lower f in to and several othehs
don't seem to be recognized. Any ideas?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S

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Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

2016-11-06 Thread Shaf Patel 
Flor is correct, eventually you'll have to learn to use UEB if you're a
heavy braille user and want to continue reading new material.

On 11/7/2016 1:10 AM, Todd Patkus wrote:
> Flor,
> 
> Who do you think you are?
> 
> I do not need to go with it.  Yes, BANA is still wrongful.  That stands all 
> against them!  Please, no more of this stuff and move on.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Flor Lynch
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 7:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?
> 
> You're going to have to put up with and use UEB, though, because it's 
> becoming more and more established as the new standard Braille writing medium 
> in countries all across the Angophone world. Every sigbnificant Braille 
> authority in the English-speaking world has adopted UEB.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Todd Patkus
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 12:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?
> 
> Anna,
> 
> Unfortunately, I do not bother the UEB.  I stay with the standard Braille. 
> Yes, BANA fails to realize that what they did is completely wrong.  No more 
> talk on that UEB.  Thanks.
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 6:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Braille is set to use UEB by default. If you want to use those contractions, 
> go to VoiceOVer Settings, choose Braille, and then Braille Translation. On 
> that page, choose English u.S.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Gerardo Corripio <gera1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Using iOS9.3.5 on an Iphone 4S the Braille keyboard, and some English 
>> Braille contractions such as the lower f in to and several othehs 
>> don't seem to be recognized. Any ideas?
>>
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S
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Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

2016-11-06 Thread Shaf Patel 
UEB is the worst thing to happen to braille since the beginning of
braille. It was fine how it was, leave it alone and stop making things
more complicated than they need to be. 
It's a good idea for everybody to learn it though. Unfortunately it's
here to stay.
On 11/7/2016 12:26 AM, Todd Patkus wrote:
> Anna,
> 
> Unfortunately, I do not bother the UEB.  I stay with the standard Braille.  
> Yes, BANA fails to realize that what they did is completely wrong.  No more 
> talk on that UEB.  Thanks.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 6:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Braille is set to use UEB by default. If you want to use those contractions, 
> go to VoiceOVer Settings, choose Braille, and then Braille Translation. On 
> that page, choose English u.S.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Gerardo Corripio <gera1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Using iOS9.3.5 on an Iphone 4S the Braille keyboard, and some English 
>> Braille contractions such as the lower f in to and several othehs don't seem 
>> to be recognized. Any ideas?
>>
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S
>>
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RE: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

2016-11-06 Thread Todd Patkus 
Flor,

Who do you think you are?

I do not need to go with it.  Yes, BANA is still wrongful.  That stands all 
against them!  Please, no more of this stuff and move on.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

You're going to have to put up with and use UEB, though, because it's becoming 
more and more established as the new standard Braille writing medium in 
countries all across the Angophone world. Every sigbnificant Braille authority 
in the English-speaking world has adopted UEB.

-Original Message-
From: Todd Patkus
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 12:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

Anna,

Unfortunately, I do not bother the UEB.  I stay with the standard Braille. 
Yes, BANA fails to realize that what they did is completely wrong.  No more 
talk on that UEB.  Thanks.

-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 6:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

Hi,

Braille is set to use UEB by default. If you want to use those contractions, go 
to VoiceOVer Settings, choose Braille, and then Braille Translation. On that 
page, choose English u.S.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Gerardo Corripio <gera1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Using iOS9.3.5 on an Iphone 4S the Braille keyboard, and some English 
> Braille contractions such as the lower f in to and several othehs 
> don't seem to be recognized. Any ideas?
>
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S
>
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Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

2016-11-06 Thread Flor Lynch 
You're going to have to put up with and use UEB, though, because it's 
becoming more and more established as the new standard Braille writing 
medium in countries all across the Angophone world. Every sigbnificant 
Braille authority in the English-speaking world has adopted UEB.


-Original Message- 
From: Todd Patkus

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 12:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

Anna,

Unfortunately, I do not bother the UEB.  I stay with the standard Braille. 
Yes, BANA fails to realize that what they did is completely wrong.  No more 
talk on that UEB.  Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Woody Anna Dresner

Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 6:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

Hi,

Braille is set to use UEB by default. If you want to use those contractions, 
go to VoiceOVer Settings, choose Braille, and then Braille Translation. On 
that page, choose English u.S.


Best,
Anna




On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Gerardo Corripio <gera1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Using iOS9.3.5 on an Iphone 4S the Braille keyboard, and some English 
Braille contractions such as the lower f in to and several othehs don't 
seem to be recognized. Any ideas?


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S

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RE: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

2016-11-06 Thread Todd Patkus 
Anna,

Unfortunately, I do not bother the UEB.  I stay with the standard Braille.  
Yes, BANA fails to realize that what they did is completely wrong.  No more 
talk on that UEB.  Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 6:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

Hi,

Braille is set to use UEB by default. If you want to use those contractions, go 
to VoiceOVer Settings, choose Braille, and then Braille Translation. On that 
page, choose English u.S.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Gerardo Corripio <gera1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Using iOS9.3.5 on an Iphone 4S the Braille keyboard, and some English Braille 
> contractions such as the lower f in to and several othehs don't seem to be 
> recognized. Any ideas?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S
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Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

2016-11-06 Thread Woody Anna Dresner 
Hi,

Braille is set to use UEB by default. If you want to use those contractions, go 
to VoiceOVer Settings, choose Braille, and then Braille Translation. On that 
page, choose English u.S.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Using iOS9.3.5 on an Iphone 4S the Braille keyboard, and some English Braille 
> contractions such as the lower f in to and several othehs don't seem to be 
> recognized. Any ideas?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S
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iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

2016-11-06 Thread Gerardo Corripio 
Using iOS9.3.5 on an Iphone 4S the Braille keyboard, and some English Braille 
contractions such as the lower f in to and several othehs don't seem to be 
recognized. Any ideas?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S

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