RE: one new bug in ios13.6
I might have just experienced the same thing on my iPhone 11, and I remember this happening occasionally before, so it isn't new to 13.6, but shutting down and restarting my iPhone 11 fixed the problem, at least for now. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Richard Turner > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 1:07 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 > > You may want to try speak instead of do nothing. > If you turn off the boundary sound of course, you will not hear it anywhere, > which may not be a bad thing. > > > > Richard > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass > himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds > among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace > to > others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Davy Cuppens > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 10:48 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: one new bug in ios13.6 > > Thanx Richard I will try that later on this evening, my setting there now is > "do > nothing". In formertimes it was edit pitch. > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > From: Richard Turner > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 6:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 > > There is a new setting in VoiceOver, Audio, Sounds, Boundary reached. > You can toggle that sound off there. > > Before you do that, what exactly is your setting under VoiceOver, Verbosity, > Deleting text? > > > > > Richard > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass > himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds > among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace > to > others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Davy Cuppens > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:36 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: one new bug in ios13.6 > > It is making that bonk sound in overall situations in my phone when editing > text, > in whatsapp, messages, ... > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > From: Richard Turner > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 4:27 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 > > It is the sound when you say get to the last app on your screen and flick > right > with one finger. > It means VoiceOver cannot go any further. > > You may also get this if you are trying to type where there is no edit field. > > But, I found one situation where I heard the sound when in an Email to field > and > had typed a wrong letter. When I backspaced it made that bonk sound, but that > is the one and only place where I've heard that when backspacing. > Anywhere else when editing, it says the letter I am backspacing over. > > > > Richard > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass > himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds > among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace > to > others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Simon A Fogarty > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:22 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 > > Davy, > > I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?! > > Can you explain this issue better, > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Davy Cuppens > Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: one new bug in ios13.6 > > Hi folks > > I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug > has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over and > over on accessibility groups on facebook. > Davy > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > From: Simon A Fogarty > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? > > Hi Davy, > > I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the > braille > issue you speak of. > > I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of > folks > out there, And I thought reported it was corre
RE: one new bug in ios13.6
Interesting I've not really taken any notice of this if it's happening. I'll have to take more notice from now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 2:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 It is the sound when you say get to the last app on your screen and flick right with one finger. It means VoiceOver cannot go any further. You may also get this if you are trying to type where there is no edit field. But, I found one situation where I heard the sound when in an Email to field and had typed a wrong letter. When I backspaced it made that bonk sound, but that is the one and only place where I've heard that when backspacing. Anywhere else when editing, it says the letter I am backspacing over. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 Davy, I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?! Can you explain this issue better, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: one new bug in ios13.6 Hi folks I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over and over on accessibility groups on facebook. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi Davy, I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the braille issue you speak of. I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of folks out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but maybe that wasin a later report . -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi folks I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not report this issue. When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is not a pleasant thing. When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the virtual keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard with my iphone XR 64 GB. The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has been confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my iPad as well as a phone. -Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? hi, Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6? Thanks in advance, Keith -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce3d3ab40c84643893faa08d82b153811%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637306717411262306sdata=uJoVX27cnHmb9shnvo2BlUHMpa68kt2UfP%2B0I2sx2MA%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F28fddd%2524e5038r%2540ironport10.mayo.edudata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce3d3ab40c84643893faa08d82b153811%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637306717411262306sdata=%2FZiYCAOA3ddN6k%2Bs3849zi%2FpH6mMUjd5LdNO5JezELA%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information
RE: one new bug in ios13.6
You may want to try speak instead of do nothing. If you turn off the boundary sound of course, you will not hear it anywhere, which may not be a bad thing. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 10:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: one new bug in ios13.6 Thanx Richard I will try that later on this evening, my setting there now is "do nothing". In formertimes it was edit pitch. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 6:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 There is a new setting in VoiceOver, Audio, Sounds, Boundary reached. You can toggle that sound off there. Before you do that, what exactly is your setting under VoiceOver, Verbosity, Deleting text? Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: one new bug in ios13.6 It is making that bonk sound in overall situations in my phone when editing text, in whatsapp, messages, ... -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 4:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 It is the sound when you say get to the last app on your screen and flick right with one finger. It means VoiceOver cannot go any further. You may also get this if you are trying to type where there is no edit field. But, I found one situation where I heard the sound when in an Email to field and had typed a wrong letter. When I backspaced it made that bonk sound, but that is the one and only place where I've heard that when backspacing. Anywhere else when editing, it says the letter I am backspacing over. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 Davy, I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?! Can you explain this issue better, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: one new bug in ios13.6 Hi folks I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over and over on accessibility groups on facebook. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi Davy, I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the braille issue you speak of. I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of folks out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but maybe that wasin a later report . -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi folks I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not report this issue. When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is not a pleasant thing. When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the virtual keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard with my iphone XR 64 GB. The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has been confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my iPad as well as a phone. -Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' v
Re: one new bug in ios13.6
Thanx Richard I will try that later on this evening, my setting there now is "do nothing". In formertimes it was edit pitch. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 6:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 There is a new setting in VoiceOver, Audio, Sounds, Boundary reached. You can toggle that sound off there. Before you do that, what exactly is your setting under VoiceOver, Verbosity, Deleting text? Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: one new bug in ios13.6 It is making that bonk sound in overall situations in my phone when editing text, in whatsapp, messages, ... -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 4:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 It is the sound when you say get to the last app on your screen and flick right with one finger. It means VoiceOver cannot go any further. You may also get this if you are trying to type where there is no edit field. But, I found one situation where I heard the sound when in an Email to field and had typed a wrong letter. When I backspaced it made that bonk sound, but that is the one and only place where I've heard that when backspacing. Anywhere else when editing, it says the letter I am backspacing over. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 Davy, I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?! Can you explain this issue better, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: one new bug in ios13.6 Hi folks I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over and over on accessibility groups on facebook. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi Davy, I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the braille issue you speak of. I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of folks out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but maybe that wasin a later report . -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi folks I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not report this issue. When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is not a pleasant thing. When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the virtual keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard with my iphone XR 64 GB. The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has been confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my iPad as well as a phone. -Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? hi, Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6? Thanks in advance, Keith -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Ca
RE: one new bug in ios13.6
There is a new setting in VoiceOver, Audio, Sounds, Boundary reached. You can toggle that sound off there. Before you do that, what exactly is your setting under VoiceOver, Verbosity, Deleting text? Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: one new bug in ios13.6 It is making that bonk sound in overall situations in my phone when editing text, in whatsapp, messages, ... -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 4:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 It is the sound when you say get to the last app on your screen and flick right with one finger. It means VoiceOver cannot go any further. You may also get this if you are trying to type where there is no edit field. But, I found one situation where I heard the sound when in an Email to field and had typed a wrong letter. When I backspaced it made that bonk sound, but that is the one and only place where I've heard that when backspacing. Anywhere else when editing, it says the letter I am backspacing over. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 Davy, I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?! Can you explain this issue better, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: one new bug in ios13.6 Hi folks I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over and over on accessibility groups on facebook. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi Davy, I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the braille issue you speak of. I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of folks out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but maybe that wasin a later report . -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi folks I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not report this issue. When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is not a pleasant thing. When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the virtual keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard with my iphone XR 64 GB. The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has been confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my iPad as well as a phone. -Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? hi, Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6? Thanks in advance, Keith -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cc338841609144d120ffe08d82b3199a5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637
Re: one new bug in ios13.6
It is making that bonk sound in overall situations in my phone when editing text, in whatsapp, messages, ... -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 4:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 It is the sound when you say get to the last app on your screen and flick right with one finger. It means VoiceOver cannot go any further. You may also get this if you are trying to type where there is no edit field. But, I found one situation where I heard the sound when in an Email to field and had typed a wrong letter. When I backspaced it made that bonk sound, but that is the one and only place where I've heard that when backspacing. Anywhere else when editing, it says the letter I am backspacing over. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 Davy, I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?! Can you explain this issue better, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: one new bug in ios13.6 Hi folks I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over and over on accessibility groups on facebook. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi Davy, I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the braille issue you speak of. I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of folks out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but maybe that wasin a later report . -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi folks I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not report this issue. When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is not a pleasant thing. When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the virtual keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard with my iphone XR 64 GB. The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has been confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my iPad as well as a phone. -Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? hi, Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6? Thanks in advance, Keith -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce3d3ab40c84643893faa08d82b153811%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637306717411262306sdata=uJoVX27cnHmb9shnvo2BlUHMpa68kt2UfP%2B0I2sx2MA%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F28fddd%2524e5038r%2540ironport10.mayo.edudata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce3d3ab40c84643893faa08d82b153811%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637306717411262306sdata=%2FZiYCAOA3ddN6k%2Bs3849zi%2FpH6mMUjd5LdNO5JezELA%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for
Re: one new bug in ios13.6
Sorry but this trick does not resolve the bonk sound bug. You always get the tok sound when deleting text at the end of a phrase. It has been reported over and over again. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: chalt...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 4:18 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 If you go into Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> Verbosity do you have deleting text set to play sound? This will result in hearing a ping when you delete text. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 7:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 Davy, I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?! Can you explain this issue better, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: one new bug in ios13.6 Hi folks I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over and over on accessibility groups on facebook. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi Davy, I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the braille issue you speak of. I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of folks out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but maybe that wasin a later report . -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi folks I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not report this issue. When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is not a pleasant thing. When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the virtual keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard with my iphone XR 64 GB. The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has been confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my iPad as well as a phone. -Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? hi, Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6? Thanks in advance, Keith -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/28fddd%24e5038r%40ironport10. mayo.edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SYCPR01MB4048DC057A81A00A8 F9C92338A7F0%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of
RE: one new bug in ios13.6
It is the sound when you say get to the last app on your screen and flick right with one finger. It means VoiceOver cannot go any further. You may also get this if you are trying to type where there is no edit field. But, I found one situation where I heard the sound when in an Email to field and had typed a wrong letter. When I backspaced it made that bonk sound, but that is the one and only place where I've heard that when backspacing. Anywhere else when editing, it says the letter I am backspacing over. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 Davy, I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?! Can you explain this issue better, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: one new bug in ios13.6 Hi folks I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over and over on accessibility groups on facebook. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi Davy, I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the braille issue you speak of. I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of folks out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but maybe that wasin a later report . -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi folks I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not report this issue. When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is not a pleasant thing. When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the virtual keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard with my iphone XR 64 GB. The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has been confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my iPad as well as a phone. -Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? hi, Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6? Thanks in advance, Keith -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce3d3ab40c84643893faa08d82b153811%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637306717411262306sdata=uJoVX27cnHmb9shnvo2BlUHMpa68kt2UfP%2B0I2sx2MA%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F28fddd%2524e5038r%2540ironport10.mayo.edudata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce3d3ab40c84643893faa08d82b153811%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637306717411262306sdata=%2FZiYCAOA3ddN6k%2Bs3849zi%2FpH6mMUjd5LdNO5JezELA%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Ma
RE: one new bug in ios13.6
If you go into Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> Verbosity do you have deleting text set to play sound? This will result in hearing a ping when you delete text. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Simon A Fogarty > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 7:22 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: one new bug in ios13.6 > > Davy, > > I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?! > > Can you explain this issue better, > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Davy Cuppens > Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: one new bug in ios13.6 > > Hi folks > > I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug > has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over and > over on accessibility groups on facebook. > Davy > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > From: Simon A Fogarty > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? > > Hi Davy, > > I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the > braille > issue you speak of. > > I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of > folks > out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but maybe that > wasin a later report . > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Davy Cuppens > Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? > > Hi folks > > I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not report > this issue. > > When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is > not > a pleasant thing. > > When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the > virtual > keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard with my > iphone XR 64 GB. > > The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has > been confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups. > > Davy > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > From: Simon A Fogarty > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? > > No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my > iPad as > well as a phone. > > -Original Message- > From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone > Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? > > hi, > Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6? > Thanks in advance, Keith > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel > that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email > to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/28fddd%24e5038r%40ironport10. > mayo.edu. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel > that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email > to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
RE: one new bug in ios13.6
Davy, I'm not sure what you mean by bong sound?! Can you explain this issue better, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: one new bug in ios13.6 Hi folks I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over and over on accessibility groups on facebook. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi Davy, I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the braille issue you speak of. I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of folks out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but maybe that wasin a later report . -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi folks I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not report this issue. When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is not a pleasant thing. When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the virtual keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard with my iphone XR 64 GB. The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has been confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my iPad as well as a phone. -Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? hi, Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6? Thanks in advance, Keith -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/28fddd%24e5038r%40ironport10.mayo.edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SYCPR01MB4048DC057A81A00A8F9C92338A7F0%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1E149E1DF31B43A4
one new bug in ios13.6
Hi folks I have restarted and then reset my phone and now the keyboard visibility bug has gone but I still have the bonk sound bug which has been reported over and over on accessibility groups on facebook. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi Davy, I believe I have seen on another list I'm on, many users repoportting the braille issue you speak of. I'm not a braille user but I'm sure I've seen that reported by a number of folks out there, And I thought reported it was corrected in Ios 13.6 but maybe that wasin a later report . -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 11:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? Hi folks I noticed 2 bugs I cannot understand while so many beta testers did not report this issue. When typing text and deleting a character, you hear the bonk sound which is not a pleasant thing. When typing brail with a brail device the shortcut to bring forward the virtual keyboard space dot146 is bugging and will only hide the keyboard with my iphone XR 64 GB. The bonk sound when proceding to another paragraph or deleting signs has been confirmed by many users on accessibility facebook groups. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Simon A Fogarty Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? No problem with it that I can at this point find And I'm running it on my iPad as well as a phone. -Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone Sent: Friday, 17 July 2020 9:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade? hi, Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6? Thanks in advance, Keith -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/28fddd%24e5038r%40ironport10.mayo.edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SYCPR01MB4048DC057A81A00A8F9C92338A7F0%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1E149E1DF31B43A49BB5BDA794CCE242%40GebruikerPC. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather
