RE: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience
Hi I will do that, I am a tester for Apple accessibility! J Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Michael Irons Verzonden: maandag 18 december 2023 15:56 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience You may be right Davey there will always be a bug of some kind. The thing that is important is when you find it then you would want to call Apple Accessibility or get a hold of Apple in someway and talk to them about it and work with them on it what you were doing The important thing is that the software has had enough of the difficulties in bags worked out that I am all of us would be able to use it. You are doing a good thing. Just remember when you find something that isn’t working for you get a hold of Apple and work with him on it like you were doing right now. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 18, 2023, at 8:50 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote: > > Mark > > There are and will always be bugs or device depenend issues; > > For me there is stil a dictation bug whereas after dictating tekst no > feedback is given from voiceover of the written tekst, Apple is aware of that > and I am testing with them. > So it is too positive to pretend this software version is free of bugs, that > will never bet he case, never ever! > Davy > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: M. Taylor Namens M. Taylor > Verzonden: vrijdag 15 december 2023 20:07 > Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com > Onderwerp: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive > Experience > > Hello All, > > Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their > respective latest versions of the OS. > > I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect > of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet > encountered a bug. > > And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid > job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes, dare > I say it, even TV OS. > > I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10. Again, I can not find > a bug. > > In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've > used since the feature was introduced many years ago. > > I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest > OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS. > > However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced, > when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved. > > Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2. I am > running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max. > > Before installing the OS I: > > 1. > Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest > version of iTunes. > > 2. > Backed up the device to iCloud. > > 3. > Closed every app via the App Switcher. > > 4. > Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network. > > 5. > Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network. > > 6. > Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes. This > insures that the device has full acquisition of the network. > > 7. > Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air). > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/005e01da2f89%24e500%24b1666400%24%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are
RE: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience
Very well stated, Richard, and thank you for posting such a gracious comment. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 7:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience Every app and operating system on the planet has bugs. I am amazed at the number of app updates that say nothing more than "fixed some bugs." This is simply a fact of life with so many different devices and operating systems. When someone has a positive experience, let them have their positive experience without immediately throwing cold water on it. At this point, I have very few issues with iOS 17.2. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael Irons Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 6:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience You may be right Davey there will always be a bug of some kind. The thing that is important is when you find it then you would want to call Apple Accessibility or get a hold of Apple in someway and talk to them about it and work with them on it what you were doing The important thing is that the software has had enough of the difficulties in bags worked out that I am all of us would be able to use it. You are doing a good thing. Just remember when you find something that isn’t working for you get a hold of Apple and work with him on it like you were doing right now. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 18, 2023, at 8:50 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote: > > Mark > > There are and will always be bugs or device depenend issues; > > For me there is stil a dictation bug whereas after dictating tekst no > feedback is given from voiceover of the written tekst, Apple is aware of that > and I am testing with them. > So it is too positive to pretend this software version is free of bugs, that > will never bet he case, never ever! > Davy > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: M. Taylor Namens M. Taylor > Verzonden: vrijdag 15 december 2023 20:07 > Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com > Onderwerp: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive > Experience > > Hello All, > > Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their > respective latest versions of the OS. > > I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect > of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet > encountered a bug. > > And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid > job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes, dare > I say it, even TV OS. > > I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10. Again, I can not find > a bug. > > In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've > used since the feature was introduced many years ago. > > I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest > OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS. > > However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced, > when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved. > > Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2. I am > running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max. > > Before installing the OS I: > > 1. > Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest > version of iTunes. > > 2. > Backed up the device to iCloud. > > 3. > Closed every app via the App Switcher. > > 4. > Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network. > > 5. > Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network. > > 6. > Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes. This > insures that the device has full acquisition of the network. > > 7. > Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air). > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: >
RE: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience
Every app and operating system on the planet has bugs. I am amazed at the number of app updates that say nothing more than "fixed some bugs." This is simply a fact of life with so many different devices and operating systems. When someone has a positive experience, let them have their positive experience without immediately throwing cold water on it. At this point, I have very few issues with iOS 17.2. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael Irons Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 6:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience You may be right Davey there will always be a bug of some kind. The thing that is important is when you find it then you would want to call Apple Accessibility or get a hold of Apple in someway and talk to them about it and work with them on it what you were doing The important thing is that the software has had enough of the difficulties in bags worked out that I am all of us would be able to use it. You are doing a good thing. Just remember when you find something that isn’t working for you get a hold of Apple and work with him on it like you were doing right now. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 18, 2023, at 8:50 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote: > > Mark > > There are and will always be bugs or device depenend issues; > > For me there is stil a dictation bug whereas after dictating tekst no > feedback is given from voiceover of the written tekst, Apple is aware of that > and I am testing with them. > So it is too positive to pretend this software version is free of bugs, that > will never bet he case, never ever! > Davy > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: M. Taylor Namens M. Taylor > Verzonden: vrijdag 15 december 2023 20:07 > Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com > Onderwerp: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive > Experience > > Hello All, > > Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their > respective latest versions of the OS. > > I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect > of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet > encountered a bug. > > And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid > job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes, dare > I say it, even TV OS. > > I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10. Again, I can not find > a bug. > > In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've > used since the feature was introduced many years ago. > > I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest > OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS. > > However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced, > when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved. > > Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2. I am > running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max. > > Before installing the OS I: > > 1. > Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest > version of iTunes. > > 2. > Backed up the device to iCloud. > > 3. > Closed every app via the App Switcher. > > 4. > Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network. > > 5. > Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network. > > 6. > Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes. This > insures that the device has full acquisition of the network. > > 7. > Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air). > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit >
Re: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience
You may be right Davey there will always be a bug of some kind. The thing that is important is when you find it then you would want to call Apple Accessibility or get a hold of Apple in someway and talk to them about it and work with them on it what you were doing The important thing is that the software has had enough of the difficulties in bags worked out that I am all of us would be able to use it. You are doing a good thing. Just remember when you find something that isn’t working for you get a hold of Apple and work with him on it like you were doing right now. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 18, 2023, at 8:50 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote: > > Mark > > There are and will always be bugs or device depenend issues; > > For me there is stil a dictation bug whereas after dictating tekst no > feedback is given from voiceover of the written tekst, Apple is aware of that > and I am testing with them. > So it is too positive to pretend this software version is free of bugs, that > will never bet he case, never ever! > Davy > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: M. Taylor Namens M. Taylor > Verzonden: vrijdag 15 december 2023 20:07 > Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com > Onderwerp: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive > Experience > > Hello All, > > Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their > respective latest versions of the OS. > > I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect > of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet > encountered a bug. > > And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid > job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes, dare > I say it, even TV OS. > > I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10. Again, I can not find > a bug. > > In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've > used since the feature was introduced many years ago. > > I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest > OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS. > > However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced, > when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved. > > Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2. I am > running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max. > > Before installing the OS I: > > 1. > Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest > version of iTunes. > > 2. > Backed up the device to iCloud. > > 3. > Closed every app via the App Switcher. > > 4. > Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network. > > 5. > Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network. > > 6. > Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes. This > insures that the device has full acquisition of the network. > > 7. > Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air). > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/005e01da2f89%24e500%24b1666400%24%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0d5901da31c1%2488e3f1a0%249aabd4e0%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information
there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience
Mark There are and will always be bugs or device depenend issues; For me there is stil a dictation bug whereas after dictating tekst no feedback is given from voiceover of the written tekst, Apple is aware of that and I am testing with them. So it is too positive to pretend this software version is free of bugs, that will never bet he case, never ever! Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: M. Taylor Namens M. Taylor Verzonden: vrijdag 15 december 2023 20:07 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience Hello All, Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their respective latest versions of the OS. I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet encountered a bug. And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes, dare I say it, even TV OS. I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10. Again, I can not find a bug. In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've used since the feature was introduced many years ago. I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS. However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced, when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved. Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2. I am running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max. Before installing the OS I: 1. Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest version of iTunes. 2. Backed up the device to iCloud. 3. Closed every app via the App Switcher. 4. Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network. 5. Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network. 6. Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes. This insures that the device has full acquisition of the network. 7. Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air). Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/005e01da2f89%24e500%24b1666400%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0d5901da31c1%2488e3f1a0%249aabd4e0%24%40gmail.com.
