RE: using iPhone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
I've been using the panning keys and the command keys to try to adjust the pages. I've even tried the dots @-4-6 and reverse commands for changing pages. Regards Kerry From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iPhone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages What are you trying to do to change the pages? -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:08 AM, K. F. Ifill resurrectio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi my challenge is with changing pages. Since I upgraded to IOS6 using my Brailliant display, I can't change pages in any app including Ibooks, pages, or any other. It is quite annoying! Anybody has suggestions? Regards Kerry -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iPhone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages Hi. There are a few other improvements in ILike2ReadPro my loved search function. The possibility to read epub files, if you open them from dropbox. If you are reading on 2 or more devices, you can start reading on another device such as an IPad without having to figure out where you are in the text. The only thing you will have to be aware of as I experience it as a braille user is to use the vertical navigation setting in the router. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 30, 2012 kl. 3:27 AM skrev Brett brettst...@gmail.com: Hi, They all do, well at least all the ones I have tried. The only one that doesn't is ILike2Read. If you read books in txt format or need to read a lot of text documents in detail, this app is worth having. Save some money though and don't bother with ILike2Read Pro, as it doesn't offer any extra features except dropbox synching, but I can already choose to open a txt file from dropbox in ILike2Read. Cheers, Brett. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicki Keck Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages Is this downloads app free or does it cost? If it reads Word documents, could be invaluable. What would be nice is an app that doesn't display file text in one, long, continuous line so that you can keep your place in a file even if you lock the screen or switch apps and come back. Notes and nebulous seem to display text this way, and it's annoying. Nicki Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked
Re: using iPhone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Try chord-dots 2, 4, and 6 to move forward and chord-dots 1, 3, 5 to move back. Also remember you need to be in the text of the book. So, if you encounter the page chooser, pan/navigate back into the text before issuing the command. On Oct 31, 2012, at 6:54 AM, K. F. Ifill resurrectio...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve been using the panning keys and the command keys to try to adjust the pages. I’ve even tried the dots @-4-6 and reverse commands for changing pages. Regards Kerry From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iPhone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages What are you trying to do to change the pages? -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:08 AM, K. F. Ifill resurrectio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi my challenge is with changing pages. Since I upgraded to IOS6 using my Brailliant display, I can't change pages in any app including Ibooks, pages, or any other. It is quite annoying! Anybody has suggestions? Regards Kerry -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iPhone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages Hi. There are a few other improvements in ILike2ReadPro my loved search function. The possibility to read epub files, if you open them from dropbox. If you are reading on 2 or more devices, you can start reading on another device such as an IPad without having to figure out where you are in the text. The only thing you will have to be aware of as I experience it as a braille user is to use the vertical navigation setting in the router. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 30, 2012 kl. 3:27 AM skrev Brett brettst...@gmail.com: Hi, They all do, well at least all the ones I have tried. The only one that doesn't is ILike2Read. If you read books in txt format or need to read a lot of text documents in detail, this app is worth having. Save some money though and don't bother with ILike2Read Pro, as it doesn't offer any extra features except dropbox synching, but I can already choose to open a txt file from dropbox in ILike2Read. Cheers, Brett. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicki Keck Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages Is this downloads app free or does it cost? If it reads Word documents, could be invaluable. What would be nice is an app that doesn't display file text in one, long, continuous line so that you can keep your place in a file even if you lock the screen or switch apps and come back. Notes and nebulous seem to display text this way, and it's annoying. Nicki Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange
Re: using iPhone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
dots 1 3 5 space and dots 2 4 6 space change pages horizontally, whilst dots 1 4 5 6 space and dots 3 4 5 6 change pages vertically. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 31/10/2012, at 23:54, K. F. Ifill resurrectio...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve been using the panning keys and the command keys to try to adjust the pages. I’ve even tried the dots @-4-6 and reverse commands for changing pages. Regards Kerry From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iPhone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages What are you trying to do to change the pages? -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:08 AM, K. F. Ifill resurrectio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi my challenge is with changing pages. Since I upgraded to IOS6 using my Brailliant display, I can't change pages in any app including Ibooks, pages, or any other. It is quite annoying! Anybody has suggestions? Regards Kerry -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iPhone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages Hi. There are a few other improvements in ILike2ReadPro my loved search function. The possibility to read epub files, if you open them from dropbox. If you are reading on 2 or more devices, you can start reading on another device such as an IPad without having to figure out where you are in the text. The only thing you will have to be aware of as I experience it as a braille user is to use the vertical navigation setting in the router. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 30, 2012 kl. 3:27 AM skrev Brett brettst...@gmail.com: Hi, They all do, well at least all the ones I have tried. The only one that doesn't is ILike2Read. If you read books in txt format or need to read a lot of text documents in detail, this app is worth having. Save some money though and don't bother with ILike2Read Pro, as it doesn't offer any extra features except dropbox synching, but I can already choose to open a txt file from dropbox in ILike2Read. Cheers, Brett. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicki Keck Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages Is this downloads app free or does it cost? If it reads Word documents, could be invaluable. What would be nice is an app that doesn't display file text in one, long, continuous line so that you can keep your place in a file even if you lock the screen or switch apps and come back. Notes and nebulous seem to display text this way, and it's annoying. Nicki Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange
Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Hi Brett. I have bought downloads. It is useful for many differents tasks, it is really worth the price 13 dkr. I have tried reading in the program. It works well. My advice to braille users is that ILike2ReadPro is a great app, there are still some smaller bugs, but I am using it all the time, what I really like is the accessible search function. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 30, 2012 kl. 3:51 AM skrev Brett brettst...@gmail.com: Hi Annie, The downloads app I am referring too: is made by Hian Zin Jong. It actually shows up in the app store as Downloads - Downloader Download Manager. Searching for Downloads will find it. I am not sure of the price as it doesn't show me as I have already bought it, but there is also a Downloads Lite, which is a free version, which limits you to only being able to have 5 or 6 files in the program. If you want to see if it meets your needs, try this one and if it works well for you, I recommend supporting the author and purchasing the app, since its only a couple of dollars. Hope this helps, Brett. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 6:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages Hi Scot. This downloads app, who has made this one, I can not just find it. I believe I miss another thread which I have not read. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 29, 2012 kl. 2:44 PM skrev Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com: Brett, Just to confirm, the Downloads app does not require that you press the back button before closing the app? I understand using the FileApp Pro you do need to press the back button first. Thanks, Scott On Oct 29, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I have a couple of comments here. 1. I often uses ibooks for reading braille. I make sure to have the smallest letters and when I play a little with which letters gives the smallest amounts of pages in a document, that helps a lot. When I read a page uses the line up to go to the start of the page and when press spacebar +o to go to the next page, that works great for me, I can figure out where I am in the text e.g. how many pages left until a new chapter. 2. Another program that I often uses is ILike2ReadPro. It will also remember where you left reading, and you can save bookmarks and more. You can also search in your document. In ILike2ReadPro you will have great use of the option vertical navigation, ispecially with a braille display. If you will need more assistance feel free to ask again, also if you do not understand my explanation, I will try to explain it again in another way. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 29, 2012 kl. 10:57 AM skrev Brett brettst...@gmail.com: Hi Scott, Yes it does, as long as you click the back button to close the document before you close the app. Cheers, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 8:29 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Brett, Does the FileApp Pro that was free the other day remember the same place or behave as the Downloads app? I had been using a file I exported as an epub, but changing pages was slowing me down a bit to much in this specific situation where I needed the text to be at my finger tips. :) Thanks On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my
Re: using iPhone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Hi. There are a few other improvements in ILike2ReadPro my loved search function. The possibility to read epub files, if you open them from dropbox. If you are reading on 2 or more devices, you can start reading on another device such as an IPad without having to figure out where you are in the text. The only thing you will have to be aware of as I experience it as a braille user is to use the vertical navigation setting in the router. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 30, 2012 kl. 3:27 AM skrev Brett brettst...@gmail.com: Hi, They all do, well at least all the ones I have tried. The only one that doesn't is ILike2Read. If you read books in txt format or need to read a lot of text documents in detail, this app is worth having. Save some money though and don't bother with ILike2Read Pro, as it doesn't offer any extra features except dropbox synching, but I can already choose to open a txt file from dropbox in ILike2Read. Cheers, Brett. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicki Keck Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages Is this downloads app free or does it cost? If it reads Word documents, could be invaluable. What would be nice is an app that doesn't display file text in one, long, continuous line so that you can keep your place in a file even if you lock the screen or switch apps and come back. Notes and nebulous seem to display text this way, and it's annoying. Nicki Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command. Would Notes or Plaintext work for this; I know there have been issues using Notes for longer files but would that matter as much since I'm muting speech? If I can get this perfected it will save me from having to carry around a backpack with a song
RE: using iPhone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Hi my challenge is with changing pages. Since I upgraded to IOS6 using my Brailliant display, I can't change pages in any app including Ibooks, pages, or any other. It is quite annoying! Anybody has suggestions? Regards Kerry -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iPhone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages Hi. There are a few other improvements in ILike2ReadPro my loved search function. The possibility to read epub files, if you open them from dropbox. If you are reading on 2 or more devices, you can start reading on another device such as an IPad without having to figure out where you are in the text. The only thing you will have to be aware of as I experience it as a braille user is to use the vertical navigation setting in the router. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 30, 2012 kl. 3:27 AM skrev Brett brettst...@gmail.com: Hi, They all do, well at least all the ones I have tried. The only one that doesn't is ILike2Read. If you read books in txt format or need to read a lot of text documents in detail, this app is worth having. Save some money though and don't bother with ILike2Read Pro, as it doesn't offer any extra features except dropbox synching, but I can already choose to open a txt file from dropbox in ILike2Read. Cheers, Brett. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicki Keck Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages Is this downloads app free or does it cost? If it reads Word documents, could be invaluable. What would be nice is an app that doesn't display file text in one, long, continuous line so that you can keep your place in a file even if you lock the screen or switch apps and come back. Notes and nebulous seem to display text this way, and it's annoying. Nicki Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to
Re: using iPhone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
What are you trying to do to change the pages? -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:08 AM, K. F. Ifill resurrectio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi my challenge is with changing pages. Since I upgraded to IOS6 using my Brailliant display, I can't change pages in any app including Ibooks, pages, or any other. It is quite annoying! Anybody has suggestions? Regards Kerry -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iPhone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages Hi. There are a few other improvements in ILike2ReadPro my loved search function. The possibility to read epub files, if you open them from dropbox. If you are reading on 2 or more devices, you can start reading on another device such as an IPad without having to figure out where you are in the text. The only thing you will have to be aware of as I experience it as a braille user is to use the vertical navigation setting in the router. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 30, 2012 kl. 3:27 AM skrev Brett brettst...@gmail.com: Hi, They all do, well at least all the ones I have tried. The only one that doesn't is ILike2Read. If you read books in txt format or need to read a lot of text documents in detail, this app is worth having. Save some money though and don't bother with ILike2Read Pro, as it doesn't offer any extra features except dropbox synching, but I can already choose to open a txt file from dropbox in ILike2Read. Cheers, Brett. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicki Keck Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages Is this downloads app free or does it cost? If it reads Word documents, could be invaluable. What would be nice is an app that doesn't display file text in one, long, continuous line so that you can keep your place in a file even if you lock the screen or switch apps and come back. Notes and nebulous seem to display text this way, and it's annoying. Nicki Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at
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Hi Annie, with the original ILikeToRead, if I load a braille file directly by changing the extension to TXT, a good deal of text isn't displayed. Is that true in the Pro version as well? And are you saying you can search the text of any file using ILikeToRead Pro? Thanks, Anna On Oct 30, 2012, at 2:31 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. There are a few other improvements in ILike2ReadPro my loved search function. The possibility to read epub files, if you open them from dropbox. If you are reading on 2 or more devices, you can start reading on another device such as an IPad without having to figure out where you are in the text. The only thing you will have to be aware of as I experience it as a braille user is to use the vertical navigation setting in the router. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 30, 2012 kl. 3:27 AM skrev Brett brettst...@gmail.com: Hi, They all do, well at least all the ones I have tried. The only one that doesn't is ILike2Read. If you read books in txt format or need to read a lot of text documents in detail, this app is worth having. Save some money though and don't bother with ILike2Read Pro, as it doesn't offer any extra features except dropbox synching, but I can already choose to open a txt file from dropbox in ILike2Read. Cheers, Brett. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicki Keck Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages Is this downloads app free or does it cost? If it reads Word documents, could be invaluable. What would be nice is an app that doesn't display file text in one, long, continuous line so that you can keep your place in a file even if you lock the screen or switch apps and come back. Notes and nebulous seem to display text this way, and it's annoying. Nicki Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show
Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command. Would Notes or Plaintext work for this; I know there have been issues using Notes for longer files but would that matter as much since I'm muting speech? If I can get this perfected it will save me from having to carry around a backpack with a song notebook and a couple of Bible volumes. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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Brett, Does the FileApp Pro that was free the other day remember the same place or behave as the Downloads app? I had been using a file I exported as an epub, but changing pages was slowing me down a bit to much in this specific situation where I needed the text to be at my finger tips. :) Thanks On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command. Would Notes or Plaintext work for this; I know there have been issues using Notes for longer files but would that matter as much since I'm muting speech? If I can get this perfected it will save me from having to carry around a backpack with a song notebook and a couple of Bible volumes. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this
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Hi Scott, Yes it does, as long as you click the back button to close the document before you close the app. Cheers, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 8:29 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Brett, Does the FileApp Pro that was free the other day remember the same place or behave as the Downloads app? I had been using a file I exported as an epub, but changing pages was slowing me down a bit to much in this specific situation where I needed the text to be at my finger tips. :) Thanks On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command. Would Notes or Plaintext work for this; I know there have been issues using Notes for longer files but would that matter as much since I'm muting speech? If I can get this perfected it will save me from having to carry around a backpack with a song notebook and a couple of Bible volumes. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
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Hi. I have a couple of comments here. 1. I often uses ibooks for reading braille. I make sure to have the smallest letters and when I play a little with which letters gives the smallest amounts of pages in a document, that helps a lot. When I read a page uses the line up to go to the start of the page and when press spacebar +o to go to the next page, that works great for me, I can figure out where I am in the text e.g. how many pages left until a new chapter. 2. Another program that I often uses is ILike2ReadPro. It will also remember where you left reading, and you can save bookmarks and more. You can also search in your document. In ILike2ReadPro you will have great use of the option vertical navigation, ispecially with a braille display. If you will need more assistance feel free to ask again, also if you do not understand my explanation, I will try to explain it again in another way. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 29, 2012 kl. 10:57 AM skrev Brett brettst...@gmail.com: Hi Scott, Yes it does, as long as you click the back button to close the document before you close the app. Cheers, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 8:29 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Brett, Does the FileApp Pro that was free the other day remember the same place or behave as the Downloads app? I had been using a file I exported as an epub, but changing pages was slowing me down a bit to much in this specific situation where I needed the text to be at my finger tips. :) Thanks On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command. Would Notes or Plaintext work for this; I know there have been issues using Notes for longer files but would that matter as much since I'm muting speech? If I can get this perfected it will save me from having to carry around a backpack with a song notebook and a couple of Bible volumes. Thanks for any
Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Brett, Just to confirm, the Downloads app does not require that you press the back button before closing the app? I understand using the FileApp Pro you do need to press the back button first. Thanks, Scott On Oct 29, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I have a couple of comments here. 1. I often uses ibooks for reading braille. I make sure to have the smallest letters and when I play a little with which letters gives the smallest amounts of pages in a document, that helps a lot. When I read a page uses the line up to go to the start of the page and when press spacebar +o to go to the next page, that works great for me, I can figure out where I am in the text e.g. how many pages left until a new chapter. 2. Another program that I often uses is ILike2ReadPro. It will also remember where you left reading, and you can save bookmarks and more. You can also search in your document. In ILike2ReadPro you will have great use of the option vertical navigation, ispecially with a braille display. If you will need more assistance feel free to ask again, also if you do not understand my explanation, I will try to explain it again in another way. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 29, 2012 kl. 10:57 AM skrev Brett brettst...@gmail.com: Hi Scott, Yes it does, as long as you click the back button to close the document before you close the app. Cheers, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 8:29 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Brett, Does the FileApp Pro that was free the other day remember the same place or behave as the Downloads app? I had been using a file I exported as an epub, but changing pages was slowing me down a bit to much in this specific situation where I needed the text to be at my finger tips. :) Thanks On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command.
Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Is this downloads app free or does it cost? If it reads Word documents, could be invaluable. What would be nice is an app that doesn't display file text in one, long, continuous line so that you can keep your place in a file even if you lock the screen or switch apps and come back. Notes and nebulous seem to display text this way, and it's annoying. Nicki Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command. Would Notes or Plaintext work for this; I know there have been issues using Notes for longer files but would that matter as much since I'm muting speech? If I can get this perfected it will save me from having to carry around a backpack with a song notebook and a couple of Bible volumes. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
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Good idea, but I'm not making a word document. Also I have never heard of a downloads app. will have to check this out. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Nicki Keck jesusgir...@gmail.com wrote: Is this downloads app free or does it cost? If it reads Word documents, could be invaluable. What would be nice is an app that doesn't display file text in one, long, continuous line so that you can keep your place in a file even if you lock the screen or switch apps and come back. Notes and nebulous seem to display text this way, and it's annoying. Nicki Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command. Would Notes or Plaintext work for this; I know there have been issues using Notes for longer files but would that matter as much since I'm muting speech? If I can get this perfected it will save me from having to carry around a backpack with a song notebook and a couple of Bible volumes. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send
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Hi Brett, Does the Downloads app keep your place in text files too, or just Word and HTML? I saw that it can do text searches of PDF files; can it do text search in other files formats as well? Thanks, Anna On Oct 29, 2012, at 3:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command. Would Notes or Plaintext work for this; I know there have been issues using Notes for longer files but would that matter as much since I'm muting speech? If I can get this perfected it will save me from having to carry around a backpack with a song notebook and a couple of Bible volumes. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Hi Scot. This downloads app, who has made this one, I can not just find it. I believe I miss another thread which I have not read. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 29, 2012 kl. 2:44 PM skrev Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com: Brett, Just to confirm, the Downloads app does not require that you press the back button before closing the app? I understand using the FileApp Pro you do need to press the back button first. Thanks, Scott On Oct 29, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I have a couple of comments here. 1. I often uses ibooks for reading braille. I make sure to have the smallest letters and when I play a little with which letters gives the smallest amounts of pages in a document, that helps a lot. When I read a page uses the line up to go to the start of the page and when press spacebar +o to go to the next page, that works great for me, I can figure out where I am in the text e.g. how many pages left until a new chapter. 2. Another program that I often uses is ILike2ReadPro. It will also remember where you left reading, and you can save bookmarks and more. You can also search in your document. In ILike2ReadPro you will have great use of the option vertical navigation, ispecially with a braille display. If you will need more assistance feel free to ask again, also if you do not understand my explanation, I will try to explain it again in another way. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 29, 2012 kl. 10:57 AM skrev Brett brettst...@gmail.com: Hi Scott, Yes it does, as long as you click the back button to close the document before you close the app. Cheers, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 8:29 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Brett, Does the FileApp Pro that was free the other day remember the same place or behave as the Downloads app? I had been using a file I exported as an epub, but changing pages was slowing me down a bit to much in this specific situation where I needed the text to be at my finger tips. :) Thanks On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages
Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Hi Annie, I have not used the Downloads app, but I did find it in the U.S. store for $1.99 and I'm pretty sure this was the one Brett referred to. The URL is https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/downloads-downloader-download/id343307433?mt=8. Regards, Scott On Oct 29, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scot. This downloads app, who has made this one, I can not just find it. I believe I miss another thread which I have not read. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 29, 2012 kl. 2:44 PM skrev Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com: Brett, Just to confirm, the Downloads app does not require that you press the back button before closing the app? I understand using the FileApp Pro you do need to press the back button first. Thanks, Scott On Oct 29, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I have a couple of comments here. 1. I often uses ibooks for reading braille. I make sure to have the smallest letters and when I play a little with which letters gives the smallest amounts of pages in a document, that helps a lot. When I read a page uses the line up to go to the start of the page and when press spacebar +o to go to the next page, that works great for me, I can figure out where I am in the text e.g. how many pages left until a new chapter. 2. Another program that I often uses is ILike2ReadPro. It will also remember where you left reading, and you can save bookmarks and more. You can also search in your document. In ILike2ReadPro you will have great use of the option vertical navigation, ispecially with a braille display. If you will need more assistance feel free to ask again, also if you do not understand my explanation, I will try to explain it again in another way. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 29, 2012 kl. 10:57 AM skrev Brett brettst...@gmail.com: Hi Scott, Yes it does, as long as you click the back button to close the document before you close the app. Cheers, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 8:29 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Brett, Does the FileApp Pro that was free the other day remember the same place or behave as the Downloads app? I had been using a file I exported as an epub, but changing pages was slowing me down a bit to much in this specific situation where I needed the text to be at my finger tips. :) Thanks On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the
RE: using iPhone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Hi, They all do, well at least all the ones I have tried. The only one that doesn't is ILike2Read. If you read books in txt format or need to read a lot of text documents in detail, this app is worth having. Save some money though and don't bother with ILike2Read Pro, as it doesn't offer any extra features except dropbox synching, but I can already choose to open a txt file from dropbox in ILike2Read. Cheers, Brett. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicki Keck Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 1:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages Is this downloads app free or does it cost? If it reads Word documents, could be invaluable. What would be nice is an app that doesn't display file text in one, long, continuous line so that you can keep your place in a file even if you lock the screen or switch apps and come back. Notes and nebulous seem to display text this way, and it's annoying. Nicki Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command. Would Notes or Plaintext work for this; I know there have been issues using Notes for longer files but would that matter as much since I'm muting speech? If I can get this perfected it will save me from having to carry around a backpack with a song notebook and a couple of Bible volumes. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
RE: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Hi Anna, Downloads, well the one I am using by Hian Zin Jong doesn't allow you to search for text in a word document or a HTML document. It does allow you to search for text in a PDF, but once you choose the text you want to jump too, the PDF isn't accessible to VoiceOver, so as a PDF reader its useless. I use it for reading word documents and locally stored HTML pages and documents. Its also a handy app to download podcast episodes etc that you find while surfing the web or on twitter when out and about and you don't want to listen to them at the time. Hope this helps, Brett -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 5:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages Hi Brett, Does the Downloads app keep your place in text files too, or just Word and HTML? I saw that it can do text searches of PDF files; can it do text search in other files formats as well? Thanks, Anna On Oct 29, 2012, at 3:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command. Would Notes or Plaintext work for this; I know there have been issues using Notes for longer files but would that matter as much since I'm muting speech? If I can get this perfected it will save me from having to carry around a backpack with a song notebook and a couple of Bible volumes. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this
RE: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Hi Annie, The downloads app I am referring too: is made by Hian Zin Jong. It actually shows up in the app store as Downloads - Downloader Download Manager. Searching for Downloads will find it. I am not sure of the price as it doesn't show me as I have already bought it, but there is also a Downloads Lite, which is a free version, which limits you to only being able to have 5 or 6 files in the program. If you want to see if it meets your needs, try this one and if it works well for you, I recommend supporting the author and purchasing the app, since its only a couple of dollars. Hope this helps, Brett. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 6:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages Hi Scot. This downloads app, who has made this one, I can not just find it. I believe I miss another thread which I have not read. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 29, 2012 kl. 2:44 PM skrev Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com: Brett, Just to confirm, the Downloads app does not require that you press the back button before closing the app? I understand using the FileApp Pro you do need to press the back button first. Thanks, Scott On Oct 29, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I have a couple of comments here. 1. I often uses ibooks for reading braille. I make sure to have the smallest letters and when I play a little with which letters gives the smallest amounts of pages in a document, that helps a lot. When I read a page uses the line up to go to the start of the page and when press spacebar +o to go to the next page, that works great for me, I can figure out where I am in the text e.g. how many pages left until a new chapter. 2. Another program that I often uses is ILike2ReadPro. It will also remember where you left reading, and you can save bookmarks and more. You can also search in your document. In ILike2ReadPro you will have great use of the option vertical navigation, ispecially with a braille display. If you will need more assistance feel free to ask again, also if you do not understand my explanation, I will try to explain it again in another way. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 29, 2012 kl. 10:57 AM skrev Brett brettst...@gmail.com: Hi Scott, Yes it does, as long as you click the back button to close the document before you close the app. Cheers, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 8:29 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Brett, Does the FileApp Pro that was free the other day remember the same place or behave as the Downloads app? I had been using a file I exported as an epub, but changing pages was slowing me down a bit to much in this specific situation where I needed the text to be at my finger tips. :) Thanks On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Two ways to read without having to scroll pages in braille are: one Copy a word document to an app such as downloads. This will let you read Word documents without having to scroll pages. 2. For greater navigation control, add Word heading styles in your document to mark up the sections you want to quickly jump to. To mark a heading in a word document on your computer, select the text you want as a heading, then press Control plus Alt plus 1 (for a heading level 1), Control plus Alt plus 2 (for a heading level 2) and Control plus Alt plus 3, (for a heading level 3). Then save this file with a HTM extension using the save as dialog in word. Once the file is saved, again copy it to the Downloads app on your phone. When you open it, it will open as a HTML (wep page document), here you can set the rotor to headings and them jump quickly to the sections you previously marked up. This sounds harder than it is, but it really doesn't take much time and its handy for meetings when I need to quickly skip around a file. Downloads will also remember your place in a word or HTML document , when you click the Back button to close the document. This doesn't occur when using notes, although I do use notes for taking my shorthand notes in meetings etc. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 29/10/2012, at 2:35 PM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed
using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command. Would Notes or Plaintext work for this; I know there have been issues using Notes for longer files but would that matter as much since I'm muting speech? If I can get this perfected it will save me from having to carry around a backpack with a song notebook and a couple of Bible volumes. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command. Would Notes or Plaintext work for this; I know there have been issues using Notes for longer files but would that matter as much since I'm muting speech? If I can get this perfected it will save me from having to carry around a backpack with a song notebook and a couple of Bible volumes. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Sheryl, I'd be interested in how you plan to use the notes app. I assume you are getting various documents or Bible verses or whatever from various sources and putting them into a document that you will then use at church. How will that happen with the notes app? I assume you will not be wanting to type it all in from scratch. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Hi Mary. Good question. I will do a combination of typing directly into a file on my computer and copying and pasting. For my test this afternoon, the file had already been put into iTunes and from there into Pages and I simply copied and pasted all the text into Notes. I can use this round-about method for everything, first sending the file to iTunes so that it goes to Pages and then copying and pasting into Notes or I could email it and copy and paste from the email into Notes. I don't think i can open an attachment in Notes so it has to be the text I copy and paste. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Oct 28, 2012, at 10:53 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Sheryl, I'd be interested in how you plan to use the notes app. I assume you are getting various documents or Bible verses or whatever from various sources and putting them into a document that you will then use at church. How will that happen with the notes app? I assume you will not be wanting to type it all in from scratch. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Because I also had a similar issue in iBooks with scrolling using the braille display, which Anna told me how to solve by going to the end of the text field, panning left once, and doing the scrolling chord, I find that i can now also scroll reliably in the Pages app. In the case of the Pages app, if i go past the end of my text to where it says txt field and then pan left once and do the o chord, i am not only scrolled to the next page but am scrolled so that the new page is the beginning page on my screen and I then don't have to scroll again until I go through the pages my display shows and then again pan left. So now I can either continue doing my church music and Scriptures in Pages or do them in notes so that I have a continuous file and don't have to scroll. I'll probably stick with Pages as it gives me more control for skipping around to different pages than Notes does. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command. Would Notes or Plaintext work for this; I know there have been issues using Notes for longer files but would that matter as much since I'm muting speech? If I can get this perfected it will save me from having to carry around a backpack with a song notebook and a couple of Bible volumes. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
