vibrations

2022-11-27 Thread Paula Jordan
Hi all. I have turned off all haptics but still want to have vibrations on.
I can't seem to find the setting to turn them on. Thanks for your help and
patience. 

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-30 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
I'm still on V 12.4.1, but regarding the latest 13.1.2 update, Brian Hartgen 
tweeted out the following. 
After trying everything, I had the idea of saying to voice control, reboot 
device. Then swiping right twice, followed by a double tap. While I couldn’t 
hear anything, it did restart.
 
So I guess for those dealing with this rather major bug, something else to try.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 11:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls

Yeah Sieghard

Apple did not resolve any of our bugs in ios13.1.2 and I have written this to 
accessibility which I will do after each update.
Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls

Here is the reply I received from Apple Accessibility:

Thank you for your email. We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know 
that Apple is currently investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it 
may be resolved.

Let's hope it gets resolved soon. Whenever the next update comes out and this 
is still not resolved I certainly plan to send another email as well as call, 
they need to understand that this is a fairly critical issue and they simply 
have to resolve it promptly.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 4:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls

It happens when you make a face time call

> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:16 AM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>
> Well, on my iPhone X I could not reproduce this bug. Maybe I don't 
> make enough phone calls. Does this bug include FaceTime calls? Let's 
> see if I can reproduce this on my 11 Pro.
>
> want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and 
> I will happily add you.
> maria2...@gmail.com
>
>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 3:24 AM, 'Angelina Stabile' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> The same thing happened to me. I reported this bug to Apple. They 
>> are working on it.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 2:36 AM, Chantal Ferreira 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> The same thing has happened to me. But the suggestions of phoning 
>>> my phone or turning it off and on has not helped.
>>>
>>> The strange thing is that I can bring up Siri and get the feedback 
>>> and then when I'm on the Siri screen VoiceOver works. But the minute 
>>> I go back to the home screen, nothing.
>>>
>>> I have no idea what else to do.
>>>
>>> Any other suggestions.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Chantal
>>>
>>>>> On 9/30/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
>>>> Yes! You are absolutely right! I have had this happening to me at 
>>>> least three or four times a day! Not only is it very and Irving, 
>>>> but I also end up wasting a lot of time. Often times I have to get 
>>>> cited help to get my phone back up and running! Very very frustrating!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> On 30-Sep-2019, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> All I can say is to bombard Apple Accessibility wit emails about ithis.
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of ke...@kellford.com
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop 
>>>> after making many phone calls
>>>>
>>>> I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 
>>>> and 13.1.
>>>> Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.
>>>>
>>>> Kelly
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
>>>> To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
>>>> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after 
>>>> making many phone calls
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and 
>>&g

Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-30 Thread Davy Cuppens

Yeah Sieghard

Apple did not resolve any of our bugs in ios13.1.2 and I have written this 
to accessibility which I will do after each update.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls


Here is the reply I received from Apple Accessibility:

Thank you for your email. We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you 
know that Apple is currently investigating this issue. We cannot comment on 
when it may be resolved.


Let's hope it gets resolved soon. Whenever the next update comes out and 
this is still not resolved I certainly plan to send another email as well as 
call, they need to understand that this is a fairly critical issue and they 
simply have to resolve it promptly.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 4:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls


It happens when you make a face time call


On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:16 AM, Maria Reyes  wrote:

Well, on my iPhone X I could not reproduce this bug. Maybe I don't make 
enough phone calls. Does this bug include FaceTime calls? Let's see if I 
can reproduce this on my 11 Pro.


want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and I 
will happily add you.

maria2...@gmail.com

On Sep 30, 2019, at 3:24 AM, 'Angelina Stabile' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


The same thing happened to me. I reported this bug to Apple. They are 
working on it.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2019, at 2:36 AM, Chantal Ferreira 
 wrote:


The same thing has happened to me. But the suggestions of phoning
my phone or turning it off and on has not helped.

The strange thing is that I can bring up Siri and get the feedback
and then when I'm on the Siri screen VoiceOver works. But the minute
I go back to the home screen, nothing.

I have no idea what else to do.

Any other suggestions.

Kind regards

Chantal


On 9/30/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:

Yes! You are absolutely right! I have had this happening to me at
least three or four times a day! Not only is it very and Irving,
but I also end up wasting a lot of time. Often times I have to get
cited help to get my phone back up and running! Very very frustrating!


On 30-Sep-2019, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  
wrote:





All I can say is to bombard Apple Accessibility wit emails about ithis.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of ke...@kellford.com
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop
after making many phone calls

I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 and 
13.1.

Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.

Kelly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after
making many phone calls

Hello,

I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and
the third Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I
have also been beta testing new iOS releases for many years.

I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public
beta program and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the
subject line throughout the beta cycle.
I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported
this via the Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given
how many other Voiceover users experience this, it has also been
reported to Apple Accessibility since the official release.
I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired
users discuss iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to
Apple accessibility, I tried to outline the issue in as much detail
as possible so there is no point for others to have to re-write all
this, but of course everybody can feel free to add any comments to what 
I wrote.


The issue:
you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as
do vibrations.

Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience
this more than others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime
calls as well as calls with other apps such as Skype.
It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the
wired Apple Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then
used te in-line remote button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.
Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls
directly from the phone without any headset and hung up with a
2-finger double tap and both times my phone went silent and it is
then extremely difficult for a blind person to get Voiceo

RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-30 Thread 'jan howells' via VIPhone
I never hear any of my sounds on my iPad tablet.  I do not hear 
the sound to receive or the sound for sent mail.


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Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-30 Thread Vicky Collins
With my iPhone 7, once I end a call, I get the clicks but no VoiceOver. In my 
case, though, at least so far, I ask Siri to turn off VoiceOver, hear the 
message that VoiceOver is off, then ask Siri to turn on VoiceOver, and the 
phone works as normal. Since I use my iPhone as my primary phone, since it is 
smaller, I haven't yet tried it enough to know with my 8 Plus.

- Original Message -
From: Mike Arrigo  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, September 30, 2019 12:48 pm
Subject: Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls

>
>
> For what it's worth, a friend of mine has also experienced this issue 
> with an iphone 7, because of this issue and the fact that nearby 
> explorer currently does not work, I'm holding off on the upgrade for now.
> Original message:
> > Here is the reply I received from Apple Accessibility:
> 
> > Thank you for your email. We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let 
> > you know that Apple is currently investigating this issue. We cannot 
> > comment on when it may be resolved.
> 
> > Let's hope it gets resolved soon. Whenever the next update comes out 
> > and this is still not resolved I certainly plan to send another email 
> > as well as call, they need to understand that this is a fairly critical 
> > issue and they simply have to resolve it promptly.
> 
> > Regards,
> > Sieghard
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone 
> > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 4:18 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after 
> > making many phone calls
> 
> > It happens when you make a face time call
> 
> >> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:16 AM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> >> Well, on my iPhone X I could not reproduce this bug. Maybe I don't make 
> >> enough phone calls. Does this bug include FaceTime calls? Let's see if 
> >> I can reproduce this on my 11 Pro.
> 
> >> want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and 
> >> I will happily add you.
> >> maria2...@gmail.com
> 
> >>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 3:24 AM, 'Angelina Stabile' via VIPhone 
> >>>  wrote:
> 
> >>> "The same thing happened to me. I reported this bug to Apple. They are 
> >>> working on it.
> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> >>>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 2:36 AM, Chantal Ferreira 
> >>>>  wrote:
> 
> >>>> "The same thing has happened to me. But the suggestions of phoning
> >>>> my phone or turning it off and on has not helped.
> 
> >>>> The strange thing is that I can bring up Siri and get the feedback
> >>>> and then when I'm on the Siri screen VoiceOver works. But the minute
> >>>> I go back to the home screen, nothing.
> 
> >>>> I have no idea what else to do.
> 
> >>>> Any other suggestions.
> 
> >>>> Kind regards
> 
> >>>> Chantal
> 
> >>>>>> On 9/30/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
> >>>>> Yes! You are absolutely right! I have had this happening to me at
> >>>>> least three or four times a day! Not only is it very and Irving,
> >>>>> but I also end up wasting a lot of time. Often times I have to get
> >>>>> cited help to get my phone back up and running! Very very frustrating!
> 
> 
> >>>>>>> On 30-Sep-2019, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> >>>>> his
> >>>>> All I can say is to bombard Apple Accessibility wit emails about ithis.
> 
> >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> >>>>> Of ke...@kellford.com
> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
> >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
> >>>>> Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop
> >>>>> after making many phone calls
> 
> >>>>> I get this also with more than a few calls I've made with iOS 13 and 
> >>>>> 13.1.
> >>>>> Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.
> 
> >>>>> Kelly
> 
> >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> >>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
> >>>>> To: 'accessibilitythpple_com' 
> >>>>> Cc: 

Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-30 Thread Mike Arrigo
For what it's worth, a friend of mine has also experienced this issue 
with an iphone 7, because of this issue and the fact that nearby 
explorer currently does not work, I'm holding off on the upgrade for now.

Original message:

Here is the reply I received from Apple Accessibility:


Thank you for your email. We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let 
you know that Apple is currently investigating this issue. We cannot 
comment on when it may be resolved.


Let's hope it gets resolved soon. Whenever the next update comes out 
and this is still not resolved I certainly plan to send another email 
as well as call, they need to understand that this is a fairly critical 
issue and they simply have to resolve it promptly.



Regards,
Sieghard



-Original Message-
From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 4:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after 
making many phone calls



It happens when you make a face time call



On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:16 AM, Maria Reyes  wrote:


Well, on my iPhone X I could not reproduce this bug. Maybe I don't make 
enough phone calls. Does this bug include FaceTime calls? Let's see if 
I can reproduce this on my 11 Pro.


want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and 
I will happily add you.

maria2...@gmail.com


On Sep 30, 2019, at 3:24 AM, 'Angelina Stabile' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


The same thing happened to me. I reported this bug to Apple. They are 
working on it.



Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 30, 2019, at 2:36 AM, Chantal Ferreira 
 wrote:



The same thing has happened to me. But the suggestions of phoning
my phone or turning it off and on has not helped.



The strange thing is that I can bring up Siri and get the feedback
and then when I'm on the Siri screen VoiceOver works. But the minute
I go back to the home screen, nothing.



I have no idea what else to do.



Any other suggestions.



Kind regards



Chantal



On 9/30/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:

Yes! You are absolutely right! I have had this happening to me at
least three or four times a day! Not only is it very and Irving,
but I also end up wasting a lot of time. Often times I have to get
cited help to get my phone back up and running! Very very frustrating!




On 30-Sep-2019, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:





All I can say is to bombard Apple Accessibility wit emails about ithis.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of ke...@kellford.com
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop
after making many phone calls



I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 and 13.1.
Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.



Kelly



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after
making many phone calls



Hello,



I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and
the third Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I
have also been beta testing new iOS releases for many years.



I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public
beta program and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the
subject line throughout the beta cycle.
I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported
this via the Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given
how many other Voiceover users experience this, it has also been
reported to Apple Accessibility since the official release.
I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired
users discuss iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to
Apple accessibility, I tried to outline the issue in as much detail
as possible so there is no point for others to have to re-write all
this, but of course everybody can feel free to add any comments to what 
I wrote.



The issue:
you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as
do vibrations.



Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience
this more than others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime
calls as well as calls with other apps such as Skype.
It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the
wired Apple Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then
used te in-line remote button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.
Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls
directly from the phone without any headset and hung up with a
2-finger double tap and both times my phone went silent and it is
then extremely difficult for a blind person to get Voiceover and
other sounds back. Vibrations also go away except for a very small
amount of haptic feedback wh

RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-30 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Here is the reply I received from Apple Accessibility:

Thank you for your email. We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know 
that Apple is currently investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it 
may be resolved.

Let's hope it gets resolved soon. Whenever the next update comes out and this 
is still not resolved I certainly plan to send another email as well as call, 
they need to understand that this is a fairly critical issue and they simply 
have to resolve it promptly.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 4:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls

It happens when you make a face time call

> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:16 AM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Well, on my iPhone X I could not reproduce this bug. Maybe I don't make 
> enough phone calls. Does this bug include FaceTime calls? Let's see if I can 
> reproduce this on my 11 Pro.
> 
> want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and I will 
> happily add you.
> maria2...@gmail.com
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 3:24 AM, 'Angelina Stabile' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The same thing happened to me. I reported this bug to Apple. They are 
>> working on it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 2:36 AM, Chantal Ferreira 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The same thing has happened to me. But the suggestions of phoning 
>>> my phone or turning it off and on has not helped.
>>> 
>>> The strange thing is that I can bring up Siri and get the feedback 
>>> and then when I'm on the Siri screen VoiceOver works. But the minute 
>>> I go back to the home screen, nothing.
>>> 
>>> I have no idea what else to do.
>>> 
>>> Any other suggestions.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
>>> Chantal
>>> 
>>>>> On 9/30/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
>>>> Yes! You are absolutely right! I have had this happening to me at 
>>>> least three or four times a day! Not only is it very and Irving, 
>>>> but I also end up wasting a lot of time. Often times I have to get 
>>>> cited help to get my phone back up and running! Very very frustrating!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 30-Sep-2019, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> All I can say is to bombard Apple Accessibility wit emails about ithis.
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of ke...@kellford.com
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop 
>>>> after making many phone calls
>>>> 
>>>> I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 and 13.1.
>>>> Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.
>>>> 
>>>> Kelly
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
>>>> To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
>>>> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after 
>>>> making many phone calls
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and 
>>>> the third Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I 
>>>> have also been beta testing new iOS releases for many years.
>>>> 
>>>> I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public 
>>>> beta program and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the 
>>>> subject line throughout the beta cycle.
>>>> I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  
>>>> this via the Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given 
>>>> how many other Voiceover users experience this, it has also been 
>>>> reported to Apple Accessibility since the official release.
>>>> I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired 
>>>> users discuss iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to 
>>>> Apple accessibility, I tried to outline the issue in as much detail 
>>>> as possible so there is no poin

Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-30 Thread 'Annelie Robledo' via VIPhone
I received a phone call this morning. I answered the call but before hanging up 
I turned off voiceover while on the call when the call hung up on its own I 
waited a few minutes and brought the voiceover back by clicking the side button 
three times this worked for me I hope this helps Yesterday all I could do was 
do a hard reboot and that is what the people that accessibility told me to do I 
do not like to do that because I feel that it’s going to end up ruining my phone

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 30, 2019, at 6:17 AM, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> It happens when you make a face time call
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:16 AM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, on my iPhone X I could not reproduce this bug. Maybe I don't make 
>> enough phone calls. Does this bug include FaceTime calls? Let's see if I can 
>> reproduce this on my 11 Pro.
>> 
>> want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and I 
>> will happily add you.
>> maria2...@gmail.com
>> 
>>>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 3:24 AM, 'Angelina Stabile' via VIPhone 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The same thing happened to me. I reported this bug to Apple. They are 
>>> working on it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 2:36 AM, Chantal Ferreira 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The same thing has happened to me. But the suggestions of phoning my
>>>> phone or turning it off and on has not helped.
>>>> 
>>>> The strange thing is that I can bring up Siri and get the feedback and
>>>> then when I'm on the Siri screen VoiceOver works. But the minute I go
>>>> back to the home screen, nothing.
>>>> 
>>>> I have no idea what else to do.
>>>> 
>>>> Any other suggestions.
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> 
>>>> Chantal
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9/30/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
>>>>> Yes! You are absolutely right! I have had this happening to me at least
>>>>> three or four times a day! Not only is it very and Irving, but I also end 
>>>>> up
>>>>> wasting a lot of time. Often times I have to get cited help to get my 
>>>>> phone
>>>>> back up and running! Very very frustrating!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 30-Sep-2019, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> All I can say is to bombard Apple Accessibility wit emails about ithis.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>>> ke...@kellford.com
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after 
>>>>> making
>>>>> many phone calls
>>>>> 
>>>>> I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 and 13.1.
>>>>> Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kelly
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
>>>>> To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
>>>>> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
>>>>> many
>>>>> phone calls
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the 
>>>>> third
>>>>> Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been 
>>>>> beta
>>>>> testing new iOS releases for many years.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta
>>>>> program and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line
>>>>> throughout the beta cycle.
>>>>> I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via 
>>>>> the
>>>>> Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other 
>>>>> Voiceover
>>>>> users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility
>>>>>

Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-30 Thread 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone
It happens when you make a face time call

> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:16 AM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Well, on my iPhone X I could not reproduce this bug. Maybe I don't make 
> enough phone calls. Does this bug include FaceTime calls? Let's see if I can 
> reproduce this on my 11 Pro.
> 
> want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and I will 
> happily add you.
> maria2...@gmail.com
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 3:24 AM, 'Angelina Stabile' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The same thing happened to me. I reported this bug to Apple. They are 
>> working on it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 2:36 AM, Chantal Ferreira 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The same thing has happened to me. But the suggestions of phoning my
>>> phone or turning it off and on has not helped.
>>> 
>>> The strange thing is that I can bring up Siri and get the feedback and
>>> then when I'm on the Siri screen VoiceOver works. But the minute I go
>>> back to the home screen, nothing.
>>> 
>>> I have no idea what else to do.
>>> 
>>> Any other suggestions.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
>>> Chantal
>>> 
>>>>> On 9/30/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
>>>> Yes! You are absolutely right! I have had this happening to me at least
>>>> three or four times a day! Not only is it very and Irving, but I also end 
>>>> up
>>>> wasting a lot of time. Often times I have to get cited help to get my phone
>>>> back up and running! Very very frustrating!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 30-Sep-2019, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> All I can say is to bombard Apple Accessibility wit emails about ithis.
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> ke...@kellford.com
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making
>>>> many phone calls
>>>> 
>>>> I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 and 13.1.
>>>> Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.
>>>> 
>>>> Kelly
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
>>>> To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
>>>> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
>>>> many
>>>> phone calls
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the 
>>>> third
>>>> Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been beta
>>>> testing new iOS releases for many years.
>>>> 
>>>> I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta
>>>> program and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line
>>>> throughout the beta cycle.
>>>> I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via 
>>>> the
>>>> Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other 
>>>> Voiceover
>>>> users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility
>>>> since the official release.
>>>> I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired users
>>>> discuss iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to Apple
>>>> accessibility, I tried to outline the issue in as much detail as possible 
>>>> so
>>>> there is no point for others to have to re-write all this, but of course
>>>> everybody can feel free to add any comments to what I wrote.
>>>> 
>>>> The issue:
>>>> you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as do
>>>> vibrations.
>>>> 
>>>> Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience this more
>>>> than others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime calls as well as calls
>>>> with other apps such as Skype.
>>>> It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the wired Apple
>>>> Earpods and then asked

Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-30 Thread Maria Reyes
Well, on my iPhone X I could not reproduce this bug. Maybe I don't make enough 
phone calls. Does this bug include FaceTime calls? Let's see if I can reproduce 
this on my 11 Pro.

want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and I will 
happily add you.
maria2...@gmail.com

> On Sep 30, 2019, at 3:24 AM, 'Angelina Stabile' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> The same thing happened to me. I reported this bug to Apple. They are 
> working on it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 2:36 AM, Chantal Ferreira  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The same thing has happened to me. But the suggestions of phoning my
>> phone or turning it off and on has not helped.
>> 
>> The strange thing is that I can bring up Siri and get the feedback and
>> then when I'm on the Siri screen VoiceOver works. But the minute I go
>> back to the home screen, nothing.
>> 
>> I have no idea what else to do.
>> 
>> Any other suggestions.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> 
>> Chantal
>> 
>>>> On 9/30/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
>>> Yes! You are absolutely right! I have had this happening to me at least
>>> three or four times a day! Not only is it very and Irving, but I also end up
>>> wasting a lot of time. Often times I have to get cited help to get my phone
>>> back up and running! Very very frustrating!
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On 30-Sep-2019, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All I can say is to bombard Apple Accessibility wit emails about ithis.
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> ke...@kellford.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
>>> Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making
>>> many phone calls
>>> 
>>> I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 and 13.1.
>>> Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
>>> To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
>>> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many
>>> phone calls
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the third
>>> Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been beta
>>> testing new iOS releases for many years.
>>> 
>>> I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta
>>> program and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line
>>> throughout the beta cycle.
>>> I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via the
>>> Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other Voiceover
>>> users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility
>>> since the official release.
>>> I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired users
>>> discuss iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to Apple
>>> accessibility, I tried to outline the issue in as much detail as possible so
>>> there is no point for others to have to re-write all this, but of course
>>> everybody can feel free to add any comments to what I wrote.
>>> 
>>> The issue:
>>> you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as do
>>> vibrations.
>>> 
>>> Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience this more
>>> than others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime calls as well as calls
>>> with other apps such as Skype.
>>> It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the wired Apple
>>> Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then used te in-line remote
>>> button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.
>>> Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls directly
>>> from the phone without any headset and hung up with a 2-finger double tap
>>> and both times my phone went silent and it is then extremely difficult for a
>>> blind person to get Voiceover and other sounds back. Vibrations also go away
>>> except for a very small amount of haptic feedback when I press the virtual
>>> home button (I have an i

Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-30 Thread 'Angelina Stabile' via VIPhone
The same thing happened to me. I reported this bug to Apple. They are working 
on it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 30, 2019, at 2:36 AM, Chantal Ferreira  
> wrote:
> 
> The same thing has happened to me. But the suggestions of phoning my
> phone or turning it off and on has not helped.
> 
> The strange thing is that I can bring up Siri and get the feedback and
> then when I'm on the Siri screen VoiceOver works. But the minute I go
> back to the home screen, nothing.
> 
> I have no idea what else to do.
> 
> Any other suggestions.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Chantal
> 
>> On 9/30/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
>> Yes! You are absolutely right! I have had this happening to me at least
>> three or four times a day! Not only is it very and Irving, but I also end up
>> wasting a lot of time. Often times I have to get cited help to get my phone
>> back up and running! Very very frustrating!
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 30-Sep-2019, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All I can say is to bombard Apple Accessibility wit emails about ithis.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> ke...@kellford.com
>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
>> Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making
>> many phone calls
>> 
>> I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 and 13.1.
>> Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
>> To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
>> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many
>> phone calls
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the third
>> Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been beta
>> testing new iOS releases for many years.
>> 
>> I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta
>> program and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line
>> throughout the beta cycle.
>> I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via the
>> Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other Voiceover
>> users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility
>> since the official release.
>> I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired users
>> discuss iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to Apple
>> accessibility, I tried to outline the issue in as much detail as possible so
>> there is no point for others to have to re-write all this, but of course
>> everybody can feel free to add any comments to what I wrote.
>> 
>> The issue:
>> you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as do
>> vibrations.
>> 
>> Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience this more
>> than others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime calls as well as calls
>> with other apps such as Skype.
>> It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the wired Apple
>> Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then used te in-line remote
>> button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.
>> Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls directly
>> from the phone without any headset and hung up with a 2-finger double tap
>> and both times my phone went silent and it is then extremely difficult for a
>> blind person to get Voiceover and other sounds back. Vibrations also go away
>> except for a very small amount of haptic feedback when I press the virtual
>> home button (I have an iPhone 8), not sure if people who have an X/XR/XS or
>> 11/11 Pro get any haptic/vibration feedback at all.
>> I often use the Mute switch to determine if the phone is still even on when
>> I have an issue with Voiceover going silent. Wen the phone is unlocked or on
>> the lock screen and I flick the switch to Mute, there is a vibration and
>> that is a good way to make sure the phone is on, but even that vibration is
>> not present in this case.
>> If I call my phone from another phone I also get no vibrations even so I
>> have set my phone to vibrate any time a call comes in. To a blind person it
>> almost appears as if the phone was off, but my wife who is sighted says she
>> can do anything on the phone a

Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-29 Thread Chantal Ferreira
The same thing has happened to me. But the suggestions of phoning my
phone or turning it off and on has not helped.

The strange thing is that I can bring up Siri and get the feedback and
then when I'm on the Siri screen VoiceOver works. But the minute I go
back to the home screen, nothing.

I have no idea what else to do.

Any other suggestions.

Kind regards

Chantal

On 9/30/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
> Yes! You are absolutely right! I have had this happening to me at least
> three or four times a day! Not only is it very and Irving, but I also end up
> wasting a lot of time. Often times I have to get cited help to get my phone
> back up and running! Very very frustrating!
>
>
>> On 30-Sep-2019, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>
> 
> All I can say is to bombard Apple Accessibility wit emails about ithis.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> ke...@kellford.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
> Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making
> many phone calls
>
> I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 and 13.1.
> Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.
>
> Kelly
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
> To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many
> phone calls
>
> Hello,
>
> I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the third
> Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been beta
> testing new iOS releases for many years.
>
> I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta
> program and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line
> throughout the beta cycle.
> I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via the
> Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other Voiceover
> users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility
> since the official release.
> I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired users
> discuss iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to Apple
> accessibility, I tried to outline the issue in as much detail as possible so
> there is no point for others to have to re-write all this, but of course
> everybody can feel free to add any comments to what I wrote.
>
> The issue:
> you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as do
> vibrations.
>
> Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience this more
> than others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime calls as well as calls
> with other apps such as Skype.
> It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the wired Apple
> Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then used te in-line remote
> button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.
> Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls directly
> from the phone without any headset and hung up with a 2-finger double tap
> and both times my phone went silent and it is then extremely difficult for a
> blind person to get Voiceover and other sounds back. Vibrations also go away
> except for a very small amount of haptic feedback when I press the virtual
> home button (I have an iPhone 8), not sure if people who have an X/XR/XS or
> 11/11 Pro get any haptic/vibration feedback at all.
> I often use the Mute switch to determine if the phone is still even on when
> I have an issue with Voiceover going silent. Wen the phone is unlocked or on
> the lock screen and I flick the switch to Mute, there is a vibration and
> that is a good way to make sure the phone is on, but even that vibration is
> not present in this case.
> If I call my phone from another phone I also get no vibrations even so I
> have set my phone to vibrate any time a call comes in. To a blind person it
> almost appears as if the phone was off, but my wife who is sighted says she
> can do anything on the phone and when I call it the call pops up on the
> screen and she can answer it.
>
> Fixes:
> I have tried to triple tap the home button which I set up to toggle
> Voiceover on and off, but that in itself has no effect. Same with asking
> SIRI to turn Voiceover on and off, when the phone is in this state I also
> get no SIRI sound, e.g. I can say “Hey SIRI” and my wife says SIRI comes up
> and is listening, but the tone doesn’t play and if I ask something like
> “What time is it” SIRI shows the result but it does not speak the time as it
> usually does. A

Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-29 Thread karuna Chopra
Yes! You are absolutely right! I have had this happening to me at least three 
or four times a day! Not only is it very and Irving, but I also end up wasting 
a lot of time. Often times I have to get cited help to get my phone back up and 
running! Very very frustrating!


> On 30-Sep-2019, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 


All I can say is to bombard Apple Accessibility wit emails about ithis.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
ke...@kellford.com
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls
 
I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 and 13.1.  
Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.
 
Kelly
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many 
phone calls
 
Hello,
 
I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the third 
Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been beta 
testing new iOS releases for many years.
 
I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta program 
and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line throughout 
the beta cycle.
I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via the 
Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other Voiceover 
users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility since 
the official release.
I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired users discuss 
iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to Apple accessibility, I 
tried to outline the issue in as much detail as possible so there is no point 
for others to have to re-write all this, but of course everybody can feel free 
to add any comments to what I wrote.
 
The issue:
you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as do vibrations.
 
Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience this more than 
others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime calls as well as calls with 
other apps such as Skype.
It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the wired Apple 
Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then used te in-line remote 
button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.
Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls directly 
from the phone without any headset and hung up with a 2-finger double tap and 
both times my phone went silent and it is then extremely difficult for a blind 
person to get Voiceover and other sounds back. Vibrations also go away except 
for a very small amount of haptic feedback when I press the virtual home button 
(I have an iPhone 8), not sure if people who have an X/XR/XS or 11/11 Pro get 
any haptic/vibration feedback at all.
I often use the Mute switch to determine if the phone is still even on when I 
have an issue with Voiceover going silent. Wen the phone is unlocked or on the 
lock screen and I flick the switch to Mute, there is a vibration and that is a 
good way to make sure the phone is on, but even that vibration is not present 
in this case.
If I call my phone from another phone I also get no vibrations even so I have 
set my phone to vibrate any time a call comes in. To a blind person it almost 
appears as if the phone was off, but my wife who is sighted says she can do 
anything on the phone and when I call it the call pops up on the screen and she 
can answer it.
 
Fixes:
I have tried to triple tap the home button which I set up to toggle Voiceover 
on and off, but that in itself has no effect. Same with asking SIRI to turn 
Voiceover on and off, when the phone is in this state I also get no SIRI sound, 
e.g. I can say “Hey SIRI” and my wife says SIRI comes up and is listening, but 
the tone doesn’t play and if I ask something like “What time is it” SIRI shows 
the result but it does not speak the time as it usually does. As I said, all 
sounds are gone as if the volume was completely at 0%. And, before you suggest 
that it is maybe because the volume dropped to 0%, it is not since I always 
check this by pressing the volume up button repeatedly and my wife confirms 
that volume was actually at 100%.
 
Sometimes this resolves itself if I call the phone and answer the call, then 
hang up the second call and then turn Voiceover on and off, but there have been 
times when the only solution was to completely turn off the phone and turn it 
back on.
Of course for a completely blind person this is also not always easy if you get 
no feedback whatsoever, I have to hold the Power button for a bit hoping I did 
so long enough so the Power Off button is there and then that a double tap will 
activate 

RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-29 Thread Carolyn Arnold
It sounds like Apple needs to fire the Voice Over Engineers and find some who 
really know what to do. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 4:24 PM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many 
phone calls

Hello,

 

I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the third 
Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been beta 
testing new iOS releases for many years.

 

I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta program 
and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line throughout 
the beta cycle.

I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via the 
Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other Voiceover 
users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility since 
the official release.

I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired users discuss 
iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to Apple accessibility, I 
tried to outline the issue in as much detail as possible so there is no point 
for others to have to re-write all this, but of course everybody can feel free 
to add any comments to what I wrote.

 

The issue:

you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as do vibrations.

 

Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience this more than 
others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime calls as well as calls with 
other apps such as Skype.

It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the wired Apple 
Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then used te in-line remote 
button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.

Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls directly 
from the phone without any headset and hung up with a 2-finger double tap and 
both times my phone went silent and it is then extremely difficult for a blind 
person to get Voiceover and other sounds back. Vibrations also go away except 
for a very small amount of haptic feedback when I press the virtual home button 
(I have an iPhone 8), not sure if people who have an X/XR/XS or 11/11 Pro get 
any haptic/vibration feedback at all.

I often use the Mute switch to determine if the phone is still even on when I 
have an issue with Voiceover going silent. Wen the phone is unlocked or on the 
lock screen and I flick the switch to Mute, there is a vibration and that is a 
good way to make sure the phone is on, but even that vibration is not present 
in this case.

If I call my phone from another phone I also get no vibrations even so I have 
set my phone to vibrate any time a call comes in. To a blind person it almost 
appears as if the phone was off, but my wife who is sighted says she can do 
anything on the phone and when I call it the call pops up on the screen and she 
can answer it.

 

Fixes:

I have tried to triple tap the home button which I set up to toggle Voiceover 
on and off, but that in itself has no effect. Same with asking SIRI to turn 
Voiceover on and off, when the phone is in this state I also get no SIRI sound, 
e.g. I can say “Hey SIRI” and my wife says SIRI comes up and is listening, but 
the tone doesn’t play and if I ask something like “What time is it” SIRI shows 
the result but it does not speak the time as it usually does. As I said, all 
sounds are gone as if the volume was completely at 0%. And, before you suggest 
that it is maybe because the volume dropped to 0%, it is not since I always 
check this by pressing the volume up button repeatedly and my wife confirms 
that volume was actually at 100%.

 

Sometimes this resolves itself if I call the phone and answer the call, then 
hang up the second call and then turn Voiceover on and off, but there have been 
times when the only solution was to completely turn off the phone and turn it 
back on.

Of course for a completely blind person this is also not always easy if you get 
no feedback whatsoever, I have to hold the Power button for a bit hoping I did 
so long enough so the Power Off button is there and then that a double tap will 
activate it, then wait 30 seconds so hopefully the phone has completely shut 
down and then push and hold the power button again to start it up again. As I 
said, I can’t even confirm whether the phone is off or not by flicking the Mute 
switch, normally I could do this and if I don’t get a vibration when I flick it 
to Mute it is a pretty good indication that the phone has powered down.

Of course a hard reset is also possible. On my iPhone 8 I can press Volume Up 
followed by Volume Down followed by pushing and holding the power button for 
about 10 or 12 seconds, but again, I should not have to do this several ti

RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Anybody may feel free to use my email if they feel it is well written and 
describes the issue and copy and paste it into their own, just preface it with 
a small explanation that another Voiceover user has already described the issue 
well and that this is the same for you.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
ke...@kellford.com
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls

I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 and 13.1.  
Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.

Kelly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many 
phone calls

Hello,

I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the third 
Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been beta 
testing new iOS releases for many years.

I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta program 
and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line throughout 
the beta cycle.
I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via the 
Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other Voiceover 
users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility since 
the official release.
I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired users discuss 
iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to Apple accessibility, I 
tried to outline the issue in as much detail as possible so there is no point 
for others to have to re-write all this, but of course everybody can feel free 
to add any comments to what I wrote.

The issue:
you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as do vibrations.

Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience this more than 
others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime calls as well as calls with 
other apps such as Skype.
It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the wired Apple 
Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then used te in-line remote 
button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.
Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls directly 
from the phone without any headset and hung up with a 2-finger double tap and 
both times my phone went silent and it is then extremely difficult for a blind 
person to get Voiceover and other sounds back. Vibrations also go away except 
for a very small amount of haptic feedback when I press the virtual home button 
(I have an iPhone 8), not sure if people who have an X/XR/XS or 11/11 Pro get 
any haptic/vibration feedback at all.
I often use the Mute switch to determine if the phone is still even on when I 
have an issue with Voiceover going silent. Wen the phone is unlocked or on the 
lock screen and I flick the switch to Mute, there is a vibration and that is a 
good way to make sure the phone is on, but even that vibration is not present 
in this case.
If I call my phone from another phone I also get no vibrations even so I have 
set my phone to vibrate any time a call comes in. To a blind person it almost 
appears as if the phone was off, but my wife who is sighted says she can do 
anything on the phone and when I call it the call pops up on the screen and she 
can answer it.

Fixes:
I have tried to triple tap the home button which I set up to toggle Voiceover 
on and off, but that in itself has no effect. Same with asking SIRI to turn 
Voiceover on and off, when the phone is in this state I also get no SIRI sound, 
e.g. I can say “Hey SIRI” and my wife says SIRI comes up and is listening, but 
the tone doesn’t play and if I ask something like “What time is it” SIRI shows 
the result but it does not speak the time as it usually does. As I said, all 
sounds are gone as if the volume was completely at 0%. And, before you suggest 
that it is maybe because the volume dropped to 0%, it is not since I always 
check this by pressing the volume up button repeatedly and my wife confirms 
that volume was actually at 100%.

Sometimes this resolves itself if I call the phone and answer the call, then 
hang up the second call and then turn Voiceover on and off, but there have been 
times when the only solution was to completely turn off the phone and turn it 
back on.
Of course for a completely blind person this is also not always easy if you get 
no feedback whatsoever, I have to hold the Power button for a bit hoping I did 
so long enough so the Power Off button is there and then that a double tap will 
activate it, then wait 30 seconds so hopefully the phone has completely shut 
down and then push and hold the power button again to start it up again. As I 
sai

RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
All I can say is to bombard Apple Accessibility wit emails about ithis.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
ke...@kellford.com
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls

I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 and 13.1.  
Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.

Kelly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many 
phone calls

Hello,

I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the third 
Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been beta 
testing new iOS releases for many years.

I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta program 
and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line throughout 
the beta cycle.
I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via the 
Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other Voiceover 
users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility since 
the official release.
I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired users discuss 
iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to Apple accessibility, I 
tried to outline the issue in as much detail as possible so there is no point 
for others to have to re-write all this, but of course everybody can feel free 
to add any comments to what I wrote.

The issue:
you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as do vibrations.

Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience this more than 
others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime calls as well as calls with 
other apps such as Skype.
It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the wired Apple 
Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then used te in-line remote 
button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.
Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls directly 
from the phone without any headset and hung up with a 2-finger double tap and 
both times my phone went silent and it is then extremely difficult for a blind 
person to get Voiceover and other sounds back. Vibrations also go away except 
for a very small amount of haptic feedback when I press the virtual home button 
(I have an iPhone 8), not sure if people who have an X/XR/XS or 11/11 Pro get 
any haptic/vibration feedback at all.
I often use the Mute switch to determine if the phone is still even on when I 
have an issue with Voiceover going silent. Wen the phone is unlocked or on the 
lock screen and I flick the switch to Mute, there is a vibration and that is a 
good way to make sure the phone is on, but even that vibration is not present 
in this case.
If I call my phone from another phone I also get no vibrations even so I have 
set my phone to vibrate any time a call comes in. To a blind person it almost 
appears as if the phone was off, but my wife who is sighted says she can do 
anything on the phone and when I call it the call pops up on the screen and she 
can answer it.

Fixes:
I have tried to triple tap the home button which I set up to toggle Voiceover 
on and off, but that in itself has no effect. Same with asking SIRI to turn 
Voiceover on and off, when the phone is in this state I also get no SIRI sound, 
e.g. I can say “Hey SIRI” and my wife says SIRI comes up and is listening, but 
the tone doesn’t play and if I ask something like “What time is it” SIRI shows 
the result but it does not speak the time as it usually does. As I said, all 
sounds are gone as if the volume was completely at 0%. And, before you suggest 
that it is maybe because the volume dropped to 0%, it is not since I always 
check this by pressing the volume up button repeatedly and my wife confirms 
that volume was actually at 100%.

Sometimes this resolves itself if I call the phone and answer the call, then 
hang up the second call and then turn Voiceover on and off, but there have been 
times when the only solution was to completely turn off the phone and turn it 
back on.
Of course for a completely blind person this is also not always easy if you get 
no feedback whatsoever, I have to hold the Power button for a bit hoping I did 
so long enough so the Power Off button is there and then that a double tap will 
activate it, then wait 30 seconds so hopefully the phone has completely shut 
down and then push and hold the power button again to start it up again. As I 
said, I can’t even confirm whether the phone is off or not by flicking the Mute 
switch, normally I could do this and if I don’t get a vibration when I flick it 
to Mute it is a pretty good indication that

RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-29 Thread kelly
I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 and 13.1.  
Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.

 

Kelly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many 
phone calls

 

Hello,

 

I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the third 
Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been beta 
testing new iOS releases for many years.

 

I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta program 
and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line throughout 
the beta cycle.

I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via the 
Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other Voiceover 
users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility since 
the official release.

I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired users discuss 
iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to Apple accessibility, I 
tried to outline the issue in as much detail as possible so there is no point 
for others to have to re-write all this, but of course everybody can feel free 
to add any comments to what I wrote.

 

The issue:

you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as do vibrations.

 

Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience this more than 
others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime calls as well as calls with 
other apps such as Skype.

It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the wired Apple 
Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then used te in-line remote 
button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.

Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls directly 
from the phone without any headset and hung up with a 2-finger double tap and 
both times my phone went silent and it is then extremely difficult for a blind 
person to get Voiceover and other sounds back. Vibrations also go away except 
for a very small amount of haptic feedback when I press the virtual home button 
(I have an iPhone 8), not sure if people who have an X/XR/XS or 11/11 Pro get 
any haptic/vibration feedback at all.

I often use the Mute switch to determine if the phone is still even on when I 
have an issue with Voiceover going silent. Wen the phone is unlocked or on the 
lock screen and I flick the switch to Mute, there is a vibration and that is a 
good way to make sure the phone is on, but even that vibration is not present 
in this case.

If I call my phone from another phone I also get no vibrations even so I have 
set my phone to vibrate any time a call comes in. To a blind person it almost 
appears as if the phone was off, but my wife who is sighted says she can do 
anything on the phone and when I call it the call pops up on the screen and she 
can answer it.

 

Fixes:

I have tried to triple tap the home button which I set up to toggle Voiceover 
on and off, but that in itself has no effect. Same with asking SIRI to turn 
Voiceover on and off, when the phone is in this state I also get no SIRI sound, 
e.g. I can say “Hey SIRI” and my wife says SIRI comes up and is listening, but 
the tone doesn’t play and if I ask something like “What time is it” SIRI shows 
the result but it does not speak the time as it usually does. As I said, all 
sounds are gone as if the volume was completely at 0%. And, before you suggest 
that it is maybe because the volume dropped to 0%, it is not since I always 
check this by pressing the volume up button repeatedly and my wife confirms 
that volume was actually at 100%.

 

Sometimes this resolves itself if I call the phone and answer the call, then 
hang up the second call and then turn Voiceover on and off, but there have been 
times when the only solution was to completely turn off the phone and turn it 
back on.

Of course for a completely blind person this is also not always easy if you get 
no feedback whatsoever, I have to hold the Power button for a bit hoping I did 
so long enough so the Power Off button is there and then that a double tap will 
activate it, then wait 30 seconds so hopefully the phone has completely shut 
down and then push and hold the power button again to start it up again. As I 
said, I can’t even confirm whether the phone is off or not by flicking the Mute 
switch, normally I could do this and if I don’t get a vibration when I flick it 
to Mute it is a pretty good indication that the phone has powered down.

Of course a hard reset is also possible. On my iPhone 8 I can press Volume Up 
followed by Volume Down followed by pushing and holding the power button for 
about 10 or 12 seconds, but again, I should not have to do this several times a 
day just because I actual

Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

2019-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello,

I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and the third 
Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I have also been beta 
testing new iOS releases for many years.

I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public beta program 
and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the subject line throughout 
the beta cycle.
I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported  this via the 
Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how many other Voiceover 
users experience this, it has also been reported to Apple Accessibility since 
the official release.
I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired users discuss 
iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to Apple accessibility, I 
tried to outline the issue in as much detail as possible so there is no point 
for others to have to re-write all this, but of course everybody can feel free 
to add any comments to what I wrote.

The issue:
you make a phone call and after you hang up all sounds go away as do vibrations.

Different users seem to be effected differently, some experience this more than 
others, but it happens on phone calls, Facetime calls as well as calls with 
other apps such as Skype.
It used to be that for me it mostly happened if I was using the wired Apple 
Earpods and then asked SIRI to call somebody and then used te in-line remote 
button on the Earpods cable to hang up the call.
Now in iOS 13.1.1 it seems worse for me, yesterday I made two calls directly 
from the phone without any headset and hung up with a 2-finger double tap and 
both times my phone went silent and it is then extremely difficult for a blind 
person to get Voiceover and other sounds back. Vibrations also go away except 
for a very small amount of haptic feedback when I press the virtual home button 
(I have an iPhone 8), not sure if people who have an X/XR/XS or 11/11 Pro get 
any haptic/vibration feedback at all.
I often use the Mute switch to determine if the phone is still even on when I 
have an issue with Voiceover going silent. Wen the phone is unlocked or on the 
lock screen and I flick the switch to Mute, there is a vibration and that is a 
good way to make sure the phone is on, but even that vibration is not present 
in this case.
If I call my phone from another phone I also get no vibrations even so I have 
set my phone to vibrate any time a call comes in. To a blind person it almost 
appears as if the phone was off, but my wife who is sighted says she can do 
anything on the phone and when I call it the call pops up on the screen and she 
can answer it.

Fixes:
I have tried to triple tap the home button which I set up to toggle Voiceover 
on and off, but that in itself has no effect. Same with asking SIRI to turn 
Voiceover on and off, when the phone is in this state I also get no SIRI sound, 
e.g. I can say "Hey SIRI" and my wife says SIRI comes up and is listening, but 
the tone doesn't play and if I ask something like "What time is it" SIRI shows 
the result but it does not speak the time as it usually does. As I said, all 
sounds are gone as if the volume was completely at 0%. And, before you suggest 
that it is maybe because the volume dropped to 0%, it is not since I always 
check this by pressing the volume up button repeatedly and my wife confirms 
that volume was actually at 100%.

Sometimes this resolves itself if I call the phone and answer the call, then 
hang up the second call and then turn Voiceover on and off, but there have been 
times when the only solution was to completely turn off the phone and turn it 
back on.
Of course for a completely blind person this is also not always easy if you get 
no feedback whatsoever, I have to hold the Power button for a bit hoping I did 
so long enough so the Power Off button is there and then that a double tap will 
activate it, then wait 30 seconds so hopefully the phone has completely shut 
down and then push and hold the power button again to start it up again. As I 
said, I can't even confirm whether the phone is off or not by flicking the Mute 
switch, normally I could do this and if I don't get a vibration when I flick it 
to Mute it is a pretty good indication that the phone has powered down.
Of course a hard reset is also possible. On my iPhone 8 I can press Volume Up 
followed by Volume Down followed by pushing and holding the power button for 
about 10 or 12 seconds, but again, I should not have to do this several times a 
day just because I actually want to use my expensive, high-end iPhone to make 
phone calls and this bug exists and Apple can't be bothered to fix it since it 
only affects Voiceover users.
Consider this scenario: a sighted user makes a phone call or a Facetime call 
and after they tap the end call button the display goes completely black or 
blank. They now have no visual feedback and if another call comes in the phone 
rings, but they 

Re: iOS 8 not remembering ringtones and vibrations for contacts on iPhone 6

2014-10-09 Thread Wayne Merritt
Sieghard,
I did follow the steps for the custom ringtones. No offense taken
since even the more intermediate/advanced user misses a detail here
and there. I have changed the tone and vibration again making sure to
hit the done buttons throughout. I will report back if it doesn't
stick. I did find it interesting that there were two different
vibration settings for an individual, verses one. Perhaps one is for
the ringtone and the other for the text tone. I really hope the Caller
ID bug is fixed soon, since I didn't realize how much I rely upon that
with the default ringtone for everyone. It does get annoying hearing
the default tone and not knowing immediately who is calling. Sure I
could touch part of the screen but still like to have it announced.

Wayne

On 10/9/14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
>
> I don't want to offend, but I wonder if this is user error on your part. I
> can't see how this could be an iPhone 6 hardware problem and it doesn't
> appear to be an iOS 8 problem since I just tried this on my 5S. I set
> exactly your combination for my business number, the Waves ringtone with
> the
> heartbeat vibration pattern, then I asked one of my staff to call me and it
> worked exactly as it should.
>
> Are you sure you double tap on Done both times when you are setting the
> ringtone? Once you are in Contacts and double tap Edit, then go to where
> you
> set the custom ringtone and set both it and the vibration pattern there is
> a
> Done button at the top right. After you double tap that button and you are
> back on your main contact screen, double check to see if Waves and
> Heartbeat
> are listed. Then double tap on the Done button at the top right of the
> screen again to save the changes you made.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 6:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 8 not remembering ringtones and vibrations for contacts on
> iPhone 6
>
> Hmm, interesting. I am using all of the default ringtones with iOS.
> Looks like I will be emailing Apple accessibility again, though I'm
> not sure if this is really an accessibility issue. It is annoying
> though since there are certain ringtones I have for specific callers
> and I expect to hear those tones and feel the custom vibrations when
> they call, instead of getting the default ringtone I chose.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 10/9/14, Lois Butterfield  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I had trouble at first because my ringtones hadn't made it to my new
> phone.
>>
>> Once I got them in from my library, everything was fine.
>>
>> Make sure those ringtones are actually there.
>>
>> Take care,
>> Lois
>>
>>
>>
>> Lois Butterfield, Certified Scentsy Consultant
>> http://loisbutterfield.scentsy.us
>> lbutterfie...@cfl.rr.com
>> 407-276-4173
>> Wonderful scents without the flame.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 9:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iOS 8 not remembering ringtones and vibrations for contacts
> on
>>
>> iPhone 6
>>
>> Custom ringtones work fine on my 5S and always have throughout the iOS 8
>> beta cycle and all the versionsl since the public release. I have also
>> not
>> yet seen a single message about others reporting that this wasn't working
>> nor heard on the Today in iOS Podcast that people are having issues.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 1:43 PM
>> To: viphone
>> Subject: iOS 8 not remembering ringtones and vibrations for contacts on
>> iPhone 6
>>
>> Greetings all. As the subject says, I have an iPhone 6 with iOS 8.0.2.
>> I have set specific ringtones and vibration patterns for certain people,
>> yet
>> when they call those tones and vibrations do not go off.
>> This is not related to accessibility directly, but has anyone else seen
>> this
>> yet? Is this a general bug, and if so, who would I report it to?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Wayne
>>
>> --
>> Follow me on Twitter at:
>> www.twitter.com/wcmerritt
>> My websites:
>> www.wayneism.com
>> www.whitecaneday.org
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone
> list.
>> All new members to the t

RE: iOS 8 not remembering ringtones and vibrations for contacts on iPhone 6

2014-10-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Wayne,

I don't want to offend, but I wonder if this is user error on your part. I
can't see how this could be an iPhone 6 hardware problem and it doesn't
appear to be an iOS 8 problem since I just tried this on my 5S. I set
exactly your combination for my business number, the Waves ringtone with the
heartbeat vibration pattern, then I asked one of my staff to call me and it
worked exactly as it should.

Are you sure you double tap on Done both times when you are setting the
ringtone? Once you are in Contacts and double tap Edit, then go to where you
set the custom ringtone and set both it and the vibration pattern there is a
Done button at the top right. After you double tap that button and you are
back on your main contact screen, double check to see if Waves and Heartbeat
are listed. Then double tap on the Done button at the top right of the
screen again to save the changes you made.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 8 not remembering ringtones and vibrations for contacts on
iPhone 6

Hmm, interesting. I am using all of the default ringtones with iOS.
Looks like I will be emailing Apple accessibility again, though I'm
not sure if this is really an accessibility issue. It is annoying
though since there are certain ringtones I have for specific callers
and I expect to hear those tones and feel the custom vibrations when
they call, instead of getting the default ringtone I chose.

Wayne

On 10/9/14, Lois Butterfield  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I had trouble at first because my ringtones hadn't made it to my new
phone.
>
> Once I got them in from my library, everything was fine.
>
> Make sure those ringtones are actually there.
>
> Take care,
> Lois
>
>
>
> Lois Butterfield, Certified Scentsy Consultant
> http://loisbutterfield.scentsy.us
> lbutterfie...@cfl.rr.com
> 407-276-4173
> Wonderful scents without the flame.
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 9:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS 8 not remembering ringtones and vibrations for contacts
on
>
> iPhone 6
>
> Custom ringtones work fine on my 5S and always have throughout the iOS 8
> beta cycle and all the versionsl since the public release. I have also not
> yet seen a single message about others reporting that this wasn't working
> nor heard on the Today in iOS Podcast that people are having issues.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 1:43 PM
> To: viphone
> Subject: iOS 8 not remembering ringtones and vibrations for contacts on
> iPhone 6
>
> Greetings all. As the subject says, I have an iPhone 6 with iOS 8.0.2.
> I have set specific ringtones and vibration patterns for certain people,
> yet
> when they call those tones and vibrations do not go off.
> This is not related to accessibility directly, but has anyone else seen
> this
> yet? Is this a general bug, and if so, who would I report it to?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Wayne
>
> --
> Follow me on Twitter at:
> www.twitter.com/wcmerritt
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> www.whitecaneday.org
>
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Re: iOS 8 not remembering ringtones and vibrations for contacts on iPhone 6

2014-10-09 Thread Wayne Merritt
Hmm, interesting. I am using all of the default ringtones with iOS.
Looks like I will be emailing Apple accessibility again, though I'm
not sure if this is really an accessibility issue. It is annoying
though since there are certain ringtones I have for specific callers
and I expect to hear those tones and feel the custom vibrations when
they call, instead of getting the default ringtone I chose.

Wayne

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> Hi,
>
> I had trouble at first because my ringtones hadn't made it to my new phone.
>
> Once I got them in from my library, everything was fine.
>
> Make sure those ringtones are actually there.
>
> Take care,
> Lois
>
>
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>
> iPhone 6
>
> Custom ringtones work fine on my 5S and always have throughout the iOS 8
> beta cycle and all the versionsl since the public release. I have also not
> yet seen a single message about others reporting that this wasn't working
> nor heard on the Today in iOS Podcast that people are having issues.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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> iPhone 6
>
> Greetings all. As the subject says, I have an iPhone 6 with iOS 8.0.2.
> I have set specific ringtones and vibration patterns for certain people,
> yet
> when they call those tones and vibrations do not go off.
> This is not related to accessibility directly, but has anyone else seen
> this
> yet? Is this a general bug, and if so, who would I report it to?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Wayne
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Re: iOS 8 not remembering ringtones and vibrations for contacts on iPhone 6

2014-10-09 Thread Lois Butterfield

Hi,

I had trouble at first because my ringtones hadn't made it to my new phone. 
Once I got them in from my library, everything was fine.


Make sure those ringtones are actually there.

Take care,
Lois



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-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 9:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 8 not remembering ringtones and vibrations for contacts on 
iPhone 6


Custom ringtones work fine on my 5S and always have throughout the iOS 8
beta cycle and all the versionsl since the public release. I have also not
yet seen a single message about others reporting that this wasn't working
nor heard on the Today in iOS Podcast that people are having issues.


Regards,
Sieghard
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Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 1:43 PM
To: viphone
Subject: iOS 8 not remembering ringtones and vibrations for contacts on
iPhone 6

Greetings all. As the subject says, I have an iPhone 6 with iOS 8.0.2.
I have set specific ringtones and vibration patterns for certain people, yet
when they call those tones and vibrations do not go off.
This is not related to accessibility directly, but has anyone else seen this
yet? Is this a general bug, and if so, who would I report it to?

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RE: iOS 8 not remembering ringtones and vibrations for contacts on iPhone 6

2014-10-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Custom ringtones work fine on my 5S and always have throughout the iOS 8
beta cycle and all the versionsl since the public release. I have also not
yet seen a single message about others reporting that this wasn't working
nor heard on the Today in iOS Podcast that people are having issues.


Regards,
Sieghard
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Subject: iOS 8 not remembering ringtones and vibrations for contacts on
iPhone 6

Greetings all. As the subject says, I have an iPhone 6 with iOS 8.0.2.
I have set specific ringtones and vibration patterns for certain people, yet
when they call those tones and vibrations do not go off.
This is not related to accessibility directly, but has anyone else seen this
yet? Is this a general bug, and if so, who would I report it to?

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iOS 8 not remembering ringtones and vibrations for contacts on iPhone 6

2014-10-08 Thread Wayne Merritt
Greetings all. As the subject says, I have an iPhone 6 with iOS 8.0.2.
I have set specific ringtones and vibration patterns for certain
people, yet when they call those tones and vibrations do not go off.
This is not related to accessibility directly, but has anyone else
seen this yet? Is this a general bug, and if so, who would I report it
to?

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Defining vibrations as text files?

2014-03-22 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I'm having trouble getting the custom vibration patterns I want. I either touch 
a bit too long or not long enough, or I'm trying to find the stop button when I 
accidentally touch the vibration area again, or... you get the idea. Since 
vibrations are very likely just text files anyway, does anyone happen to know 
of a way to manually load such files? I'd love to just write up exactly how a 
pattern should go and put that on my phone, instead of trying to get a pattern 
just right with my finger. I am doubtful that such a thing is possible, but I 
thought I'd ask. Thanks.

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Re: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

2013-01-14 Thread Max Christ
It is nice that all of you like the game. It is called BuzzMem without any 
whitespace in between. You can find it on the iTunes store 
https://itunes.apple.com/app/buzzmem/id579628791

If you have any suggestions how to improve the voice over support please 
don't hesitate to answer.

As a gift here are three download codes for the game. First come, first 
serve.

BuzzMem Download Codes:
E7XWW3KF44KK
97LLRL9THFYP
F9NKFFXHA3L3

The Game Center button is only enabled if you have a Game Center account. 
You can set it up in the Game Center app to compare scores with your 
friends.
The FaceBook and Twitter button are totally optional and you have full 
control about what you will post. There is no automatic posting.

Right now the version 1.1 is in review. It will bring German localization. 
I will try to support more languages in the future. But it is hard to find 
someone to make a good translation for the Voice Over part.

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RE: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

2013-01-08 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
Great game.  Easy, fun, addictive, quick and voice over friendly. 

God bless!

Paula Jordan and Babe

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

 

I have created an iPhone game for a blind friend. The whole idea was to make
a game to make players with and without vision equal. Not a just a game that
can be played by visually impaired people too.

The game is a memory game based on vibration patterns. It fully supports
VoiceOver.

 

You can download the game in the App Store
https://itunes.apple.com/app/buzzmem/id579628791 or read more about the
creation process on my blog http://www.mczonk.de/2012/12/buzzmem/ .

 

I hope you like it. Please provide feedback what I could improve.

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Re: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

2012-12-31 Thread Sherrie
I like this game, Buzz mem.  It is quick to play.  I would like to see it 
remember my best score so I can compete against myself.  I don’t care about 
game center, twitter, or Facebook.  In fact, I hate it when people post game 
updates and such on my Facebook! Maybe I just want to compete against myself so 
I can actually win! LOL.
Sherrie



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Hi. 
Pretty nice little game. The game center button in the menu doesn't work, and I 
can't find any settings in the game.

Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
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Den 30/12/2012 kl. 01.36 skrev "MamaPeach" :


  Found it, there is a space between buzz and mem.

  From: Wayne Merritt 
  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 6:53 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

  Try putting a space between buzz and mem, or using a capital M.



  Wayne Merritt
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  On Dec 29, 2012, at 3:31 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:


It’s called buzzmem? I can’t find it.

From: Max Christ 
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

I have created an iPhone game for a blind friend. The whole idea was to 
make a game to make players with and without vision equal. Not a just a game 
that can be played by visually impaired people too. 
The game is a memory game based on vibration patterns. It fully supports 
VoiceOver.

You can download the game in the App Store 
https://itunes.apple.com/app/buzzmem/id579628791 or read more about the 
creation process on my blog http://www.mczonk.de/2012/12/buzzmem/ .


I hope you like it. Please provide feedback what I could improve.
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Re: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

2012-12-30 Thread Søren Jensen
Hi.
Pretty nice little game. The game center button in the menu doesn't work, and I 
can't find any settings in the game.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

Den 30/12/2012 kl. 01.36 skrev "MamaPeach" :

> Found it, there is a space between buzz and mem.
>  
> From: Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 6:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations
>  
> Try putting a space between buzz and mem, or using a capital M.
> 
> 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent from my iPhone 5
> 
> On Dec 29, 2012, at 3:31 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
>> It’s called buzzmem? I can’t find it.
>>  
>> From: Max Christ
>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:33 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations
>>  
>> I have created an iPhone game for a blind friend. The whole idea was to make 
>> a game to make players with and without vision equal. Not a just a game that 
>> can be played by visually impaired people too.
>> The game is a memory game based on vibration patterns. It fully supports 
>> VoiceOver.
>>  
>> You can download the game in the App Store 
>> https://itunes.apple.com/app/buzzmem/id579628791 or read more about the 
>> creation process on my blog http://www.mczonk.de/2012/12/buzzmem/ .
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Re: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

2012-12-29 Thread MamaPeach
Found it, there is a space between buzz and mem.

From: Wayne Merritt 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

Try putting a space between buzz and mem, or using a capital M.



Wayne Merritt
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On Dec 29, 2012, at 3:31 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:


  It’s called buzzmem? I can’t find it.

  From: Max Christ 
  Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:33 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

  I have created an iPhone game for a blind friend. The whole idea was to make 
a game to make players with and without vision equal. Not a just a game that 
can be played by visually impaired people too. 
  The game is a memory game based on vibration patterns. It fully supports 
VoiceOver.

  You can download the game in the App Store 
https://itunes.apple.com/app/buzzmem/id579628791 or read more about the 
creation process on my blog http://www.mczonk.de/2012/12/buzzmem/ .


  I hope you like it. Please provide feedback what I could improve.
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Re: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

2012-12-29 Thread Wayne Merritt
Try putting a space between buzz and mem, or using a capital M.


Wayne Merritt
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On Dec 29, 2012, at 3:31 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:

 It’s called buzzmem? I can’t find it.

 *From:* Max Christ 
*Sent:* Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:33 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

I have created an iPhone game for a blind friend. The whole idea was to
make a game to make players with and without vision equal. Not a just a
game that can be played by visually impaired people too.
The game is a memory game based on vibration patterns. It fully supports
VoiceOver.

You can download the game in the App Store
https://itunes.apple.com/app/buzzmem/id579628791 or read more about the
creation process on my blog http://www.mczonk.de/2012/12/buzzmem/ .

I hope you like it. Please provide feedback what I could improve.
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Re: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

2012-12-29 Thread MamaPeach
It’s called buzzmem? I can’t find it.

From: Max Christ 
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

I have created an iPhone game for a blind friend. The whole idea was to make a 
game to make players with and without vision equal. Not a just a game that can 
be played by visually impaired people too. 
The game is a memory game based on vibration patterns. It fully supports 
VoiceOver.

You can download the game in the App Store 
https://itunes.apple.com/app/buzzmem/id579628791 or read more about the 
creation process on my blog http://www.mczonk.de/2012/12/buzzmem/ .


I hope you like it. Please provide feedback what I could improve.
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BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

2012-12-29 Thread Max Christ
I have created an iPhone game for a blind friend. The whole idea was to 
make a game to make players with and without vision equal. Not a just a 
game that can be played by visually impaired people too.
The game is a memory game based on vibration patterns. It fully supports 
VoiceOver.

You can download the game in the App Store 
https://itunes.apple.com/app/buzzmem/id579628791 or read more about the 
creation process on my blog http://www.mczonk.de/2012/12/buzzmem/ .

I hope you like it. Please provide feedback what I could improve.

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