Re: What Browser does the Facebook App Use?

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

Facebook now has their own built in browser. So when you clock on links, it 
just opens up in facebook. It doesn’t use safari or any other browser. 

> On Sep 8, 2021, at 8:54 AM, William Outman  wrote:
> 
> Did you check your app switcher to see if Safari was opened.  I’ve found, for 
> example, that when following a link in a text or email to approve replacement 
> items when shopping through Instacart, Safari gets opened as well as 
> Instacart, and I see it in my app switcher when I go to close things up. 
> If no browser shows as having been opened when you are working in FB, it 
> might be using an embedded browser. I haven’t worked with FB enough directly 
> lately to know for sure myself.  
> Hope someon ese knows more and can comment. 
> Bill Outman 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 7, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> Lately, when I click on links in Facebook posts, the web browser can get 
>> really squirrely. That is to say, VO focus seems to jump around and I lose 
>> my place on the page and it’s a pain to try to get back to where I was 
>> reading. Often these pages have loads of ads, which doesn’t help matters 
>> any. Is the Facebook app using its own embedded browser, or is it calling 
>> Safari and I’m not seeing the typical Safari UI? If the app is using its own 
>> embedded browser, is there a way I can force it to use Safari, Chrome or 
>> some other alternative?
>> 
>> Tom 
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Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

I will have to try this out. It sounds pretty awesome to me. 

> On Sep 15, 2021, at 15:46, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> Hi LeDon,
> 
> I might have to revisit the slide to type setting. When I tried it with iOS 
> 14, I wasn't impressed but I was comparing it to FlickType which I will no 
> longer have at some point.
> 
> I'll play around with the slide to type setting a bit later and report back 
> with my results.
> 
> Alan Lemly  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook  for iOS
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
> LeDon Becker mailto:vanike...@gmail.com>>
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> Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?
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> Does IOS 15 slide to type do the job?
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Alan 
> Lemly 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:07:48 PM
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> Subject: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I’m looking for an alternative to FlickType for when I have to upgrade my 
> iPhone SE 2020 or upgrade to iOS 15 and no longer have a working FlickType 
> app. Can anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard comment on its 
> accessibility and what on screen typing is like using it with Voiceover? I 
> don’t use a Bluetooth keyboard and much prefer on screen typing with my 
> iPhone especially when I’m away from home and I’m starting to research other 
> alternatives for when FlickType is no longer on my device.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>  
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Re: Good Maps Outdoors, formerly Sendero GPS

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

i don’t think that it is. 

> On Oct 4, 2021, at 15:15, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
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> Might it be that this app isn't available outside of the States? It says 
> "Can't Connect to App Store" when clicking on the link provided:
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
>> El 4 oct 2021, a la(s) 11:32 a.m., Richard Turner 
>>  escribió:
>> 
>> 
>> Here is the description from the app store with the link at the end.
>> 
>> GoodMaps acquires the Sendero GPS mobile apps from Aira, which are now free! 
>> GoodMaps Outdoors is a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS app for iPhone. It 
>> has all the outdoor navigation features you expect plus unique offerings you 
>> cannot get anywhere else, including extra verbosity for blind users.  
>> Features  • Four main tabs are easy to access at the bottom of the screen: 
>> Routes, Location (Default), POIs and Settings.  • A unique GoodMaps Outdoors 
>> feature: Record a route using breadcrumbs, called Waypoints. No other 
>> accessible app has this. You can add these waypoints with the add button or 
>> you can shake the phone to create a Waypoint. It also automatically records 
>> a point after you have gone a certain distance. These Waypoint routes can be 
>> saved for future use.  • The Lookaround Wand in the top right tells you what 
>> is around.  • The More Info button gives the altitude and speed.  • Create 
>> your own POIs and share your POIs with others or keep them private with a 
>> shortcut on the Location page or from the POIs page.  • POI categories are 
>> announced with search results and make finding your destination easier.  • 
>> Audio tones and vibrations give feedback throughout the app, letting you 
>> know about upcoming turns, critical intersection information, and when 
>> search is loading.  • A robust route menu includes multiple methods of 
>> choosing a destination, from starting with a POI, an address from your 
>> contact list, your route history, and many more!  • Settings include many 
>> customization options like: vibrations, vision contrast, color settings, and 
>> distance units.  • There are announcement options like right, left, 
>> clockface or both.
>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/goodmaps-outdoors/id945756779
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> -- Jane Wagner 
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> website:  www.turner42.com
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>> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
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Re: Password manager

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

I have ran keypads before, and have never found a problem  with it. 

> On May 31, 2022, at 14:31, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> Hi Richard,
>  
> As Chris said in his message, I don’t believe KeePass supports 2-factor 
> authentication. I’ve never had an issue with it being compromised and even 
> though I would not use it on Dropbox for a long time, I finally decided it 
> was safe after using my iPhone more and more and needing a way to sync 
> between my computer and my iPhone where my passwords were concerned. 
>  
> I wrote a tutorial on KeePass a couple of years ago and I think you might 
> still find some useful information in it. I’m still running the same version 
> of KeePass discussed in the tutorial on my Windows 10 computer. I’ll paste 
> the tutorial following my signature. Let me know if you have any other 
> questions.
>  
> Alan
>  
> I'm writing a tutorial on how to use the basic features of the KeePass 
> program to manage your passwords with your computer. I'm running Windows 7 
> with Fusion 2019 and using KeePass version 2.44, the most recent downloadable 
> version, for purposes of this discussion. I will include navigable headings 
> where appropriate and since I'm sending this post in html format, these 
> headings should be maintained. This document was completed on February 15, 
> 2020.
> Introduction
> KeePass is an open source program available for free for maintaining a user's 
> passwords. This discussion will be about running KeePass on a Windows 
> computer but my understanding is that it will also run on Linux and Mac OS X. 
>  Note the spelling of the program which appears to be a combination of the 
> words keep and an abbreviation of password and don't make the mistake I did 
> thinking it's spelled like a key to unlock something. KeePass is basically a 
> small database management system where the underlying records are your 
> passwords. A database is really just a table or spreadsheet of information 
> where each row represents a record and each column represents a field of data 
> for that record. For password records, the main fields in KeePass are Title, 
> User Name, and Password where Title is the item with the password such as NLS 
> BARD account. Be aware that KeePass has two main versions and various build 
> iterations of each, version 1.x and version 2.x. I recommend you use version 
> 2.x as I believe it contains more accessibility and this discussion will be 
> about it.
> KeePass Website
> The main KeePass website can be found here:
>  
> https://keepass.info/ 
>  
> The site contains a lot of helpful information and I'd recommend you explore 
> it to gather what you need. I'd suggest you start by pressing Insert + F7 to 
> generate a list of links and arrow through them to find your interests most 
> quickly. You can go to the Downloads link from this list or use the following 
> link to download the KeePass program:
>  
> https://keepass.info/download.html 
>  
> KeePass has both fully installable and portable versions. As you arrow 
> through the available downloads, you can pick whether you want the  installer 
> which will be an exe file or the Portable version which will be a zip file. 
> As you know, Portable versions don't add anything to your registry and can be 
> copied to a flash drive for portability after being unzipped.
> Running KeePass the first time
> I installed the fully installable version of KeePass a few years back when I 
> started using it and I have no intention of uninstalling it for purposes of 
> this overview. Be aware of that so if you experience something different from 
> my explanation, the reason might relate to this. I will attempt to mirror a 
> new installation by creating a new KeePass database file  that will hopefully 
> yield similar results to those who are installing it for the first time. 
>  
> When I pressed Ctrl + n to create an new KeePass database file, I was 
> prompted to save it with the name Database.kdbx in the same folder of my 
> existing KeePass database. First time users of the program will probably get 
> different results but I'd recommend that if you're a Dropbox user, that you 
> save your KeePass database kdbx file in your Dropbox folder. This will make 
> syncing it with a mobile device discussed later much easier. You  should make 
> note of this file name in order to make it easier to find in the future. 
> After providing the database filename and location, you are in a dialog box 
> to create your composite master key which is your master password to access 
> your KeePass database. Choose a password that isn't easily cracked but that 
> you can easily remember. This will be the only password you have to remember 
> going forward because all the others will be housed in KeePass to recall as 
> needed. Type in your master password and tab once where you'll land on a 
> checkbox that is checked to hide the password value using asterisk

Re: Hope this is acceptable question

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

Depends on what dating app you’re looking for. There is so many to choose from. 
Or are you someone who just wants to find one? 

> On May 31, 2022, at 22:09, Wendy Lin  wrote:
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> Hmm. Sorry if this is not my job since I’m not an admin of this list but 
> isn’t that off topic and inappropriate?
> 
>> On May 31, 2022, at 1:24 PM, chaim biberfeld > > wrote:
>> 
>> I am a 55 year old divorced man. Can someone please suggest an honest, 
>> reliable fully accessible dating site or app for this very lonely Brooklyn 
>> guy.
>> 
>> Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
>> Private Practice
>> 917-902-3349 
>> 
>> thegototherapist.com  
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Re: Roomba J7

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

That’s one thing that I have noticed as well. 

> On Jun 12, 2022, at 10:41, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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> Irobot has really fallen behind with the Roomba compared to other 
> manufacturers, the battery life and navigation are not nearly as good as some 
> other brands. I would suggest one of the Roborock robots, the navigation and 
> battery life are much better than any Roomba, they clean really well and the 
> app is mostly accessible. Another great one is the Eufy Robovac X8, again, 
> accessible app, great navigation and battery life and it cleans really well 
> since it has two vacuum motors. Some other bots clean really well and have 
> the great navigation and battery life but the apps are more difficult to deal 
> with because a lot of the controls are not labeled.
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2022, at 8:15 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
>> 
>> I had one and just got rid of it. It does an  okay job but it really is not 
>> effective on carpets with dog hair which is why I replaced it. The app is OK 
>> but for the price I think you could do better with a different manufacturer.
>> 
>> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
>> ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
>> be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2022, at 6:40 PM, whdud...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have the Roomba J7 vacuum? 
>>> 
>>> Ward
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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>>> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2022 11:02 AM
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>>> Subject: 110 new features in iOS 16
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>>> iOS 16 - 110+ New Features & Changes! - YouTube
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Re: Sirius-XM problem

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

What plan do you happen to have with Sirius xm? 

> On Jun 30, 2022, at 21:21, William Outman  wrote:
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> Hi, Les. 
> The Cubs happen to be my team as well. May have to call Sirius-XM as that’s 
> the same procedure I follow as well.  
> Glad to know there’s someone else out there in our group that’s living 
> through this tough transitional year. 
> Bill 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> I just went to the SiriusXM app on my iPhone. What I did was I chose sports. 
>> Then I chose MLB. Then I chose a channel that I wanted to play, it happen to 
>> be my teams game, the Cubs. It started playing immediately. I’m not certain 
>> what would’ve changed in your system, but things are working fine here and 
>> this is the procedure I followed to get the stream to play. Good luck with 
>> this.
>> Best,
>> Les 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2022, at 8:43 PM, William Outman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good evening.  
>>> I have Sirius-XM on my iPhone 8 Plus.  
>>> Suddenly this week I cannot get my baseball games other than the one airing 
>>> on MLB Network Radio. The channels show up in my app but when I select one 
>>> the feed does not pull up. 
>>> Sometimes the app will go to some other channel I have played. The 
>>> play/pause button shows up correctly but the other buttons show as dimmed. 
>>> I can find the current score when in the list of game channels.  
>>> I looked for a setting that might be amiss, but couldn’t find one. When I 
>>> am in the app sometime I see something about whether video is installed but 
>>> can’t quite understand it, or if I need to change something.  
>>> Is there a technical issue or is there something I need to adjust in my 
>>> subscription or the app.  
>>> I first noticed this problem Tuesday, as my team had the day off Monday, 
>>> and Sunday was fine.  
>>> Bill Outman 
>>> e
>>> 
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Re: My new iPhone

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

That’s something that I always turn off. 

> On Jul 27, 2022, at 10:17, Michael Feir  wrote:
> 
> I believe that you might be experiencing a feature called reachability. It's 
> designed for larger iPhones and essentially causes the top items displayed on 
> the screen to move down so they're easier to reach. Go into accessibility 
> settings and into the touch section. Find and double tap on the reachability 
> setting to toggle it off. That should eliminate the swish sound. You 
> shouldn't actually need the reachability feature on a smaller iPhone.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 9:15 AM Karen Poulakos  > wrote:
> Recently got a new iPhone SE2022.  Everything went fine with the wireless
> set up.  everything, including my settings transferred correctly.  So I'm
> really happy with it.
> 
> There is one strange thing happening that I can't figure out.  I have
> haptics turned off, and the home button sensitivity set to 3.  Occasionally,
> when I move my finger around the screen, or press on the Home button, I hear
> a  light swish sound, similar to the one you hear when sending an email or
> text.  It's so inconsistant, and infrequent, that I can't figure out what
> I'm doing that is causing it.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this?
> 
> Karen P  
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Re: My new iPhone

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

Yes. Now that’s one way to do it. 

> On Jul 27, 2022, at 10:58, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> For me, having set up phone to phone 3 of these, you can do it independently:
> 1.-Power on the new phone and turn Voiceover on it of course.
> 2.-after selecting the country and language, they’ll be a Popup in which you 
> can select Manusl etup,thus have your old phone ready for this; have them 
> both plugged into power just in case.
> 3.-within the Manual setup, you’ll have to enter a 6-digit pin the new phone 
> displays, into the new one, and away it goes!
> 
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
>> El 27 jul 2022, a la(s) 9:42 a.m., Karen Poulakos > > escribió:
>> 
>> 
>> I did have sighted help with setting it up.
>>  
>> Karen P
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Fanus Buys
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 8:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: My new iPhone
>>  
>> Good Day
>> I intend getting a SE 2022 but previously I struggled to do a transfer of 
>> apps and data from the old phone. I could not succeed in holding the new 
>> phone over the circle or whatever on the old phone’s screen. Did you manage 
>> this without sighted help and if so, what exactly did you do?
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> Sent from M  
>>  ail  for Windows
>>  
>> From: Karen Poulakos 
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 3:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: My new iPhone
>>  
>> Recently got a new iPhone SE2022.  Everything went fine with the wireless
>> set up.  everything, including my settings transferred correctly.  So I'm
>> really happy with it.
>>  
>> There is one strange thing happening that I can't figure out.  I have
>> haptics turned off, and the home button sensitivity set to 3.  Occasionally,
>> when I move my finger around the screen, or press on the Home button, I hear
>> a  light swish sound, similar to the one you hear when sending an email or
>> text.  It's so inconsistant, and infrequent, that I can't figure out what
>> I'm doing that is causing it.
>>  
>> Has anyone else experienced this?
>>  
>> Karen P  
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Re: BARD on the Echo 10

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

This I had no clue about. Wow. 

> On Aug 1, 2022, at 10:25, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> Wait...What, Bard Mobile can now be accessed from an Echo device??? Where can 
> I find info on how to do this?
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Can someone tell me the best place to get info on how to read BARD Books 
>> using an Echo device?  It's not intuitive at all. I activated it on my Echo 
>> 10 but haven't succeededin getting abook  to load up, even if it has been 
>> downloaded on my phone. 
>>  
>>Deidre
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Re: NFL stream service

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

All I can say about that is just wow. 

> On Aug 3, 2022, at 15:23, James English  wrote:
> 
> Hello James,
> 
> Thanks for writing to us. Due to rights restrictions in North America,
> content provided by the NFL is no longer available with TuneIn
> Premium. However, you will be able to listen to all prime time games
> for free. Additionally, certain stations will broadcast live game
> coverage to in-market listeners for free. You’ll still have access to
> tons of free football content including in-depth team coverage,
> national sports talk, as well as top football podcasts.
> 
> We love that users are passionate about certain content, and we’re
> truly sorry when this happens.
> 
> Thanks for understanding,
> ​
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Reuben
> TuneIn Inc.
> 
> On 8/3/22, kheve...@fuse.net  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks.  I just sent them an email.  Wonder what response I will get.
>> Lolol!!
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane
>> Steele
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 1:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: NFL stream service
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When this thread first started, I decided to avoid all ! speculation. If you
>> search the thread, at some time this past Monday, I sent the response. But
>> if you'd rather not sift through the e-mails, just send a note to:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> supp...@tunein.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hope this helps answer all the lingering questions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2022, at 1:05 PM, kheve...@fuse.net 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What email contact do you have for them?  I find it frustrating that their
>> web site says one thing and your email says something totally different.
>> Sounds like they have a serious communication problem, at best.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>> Duane Steele
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 12:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: NFL stream service
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello again,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On this thread I recently posted a note I received directly from TuneIn
>> support apologizing for the fact that due to contractual restrictions, they
>> will not be carrying the NFL this season. So, if you have seen something
>> contrary to what TuneIn's own support team is saying, we'll just have to
>> wait till the season starts.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2022, at 11:57 AM, kheve...@fuse.net 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I went to tunein.com last night and they do still list nfl football under
>> premium.  Where are listers seeing that tune in isn’t offering NFL games
>> this year?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>> Fred Olver
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 11:50 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: NFL stream service
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Well, Richard, I could not listen to the University of Michigan football
>> games unless I subscribed to Tune-In Premium last year, but we'll see this
>> year, thanks though for your input.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Fred Olver, N9BSO
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> 
>> From: Richard Turner 
>> 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 10:30 AM
>> 
>> Subject: RE: NFL stream service
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Fred,
>> 
>> From everything I have read, this year the NFL games may not end up on
>> tuneIn Premium due to their own streaming service.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And, unless things have changed, they never charged for college games.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of
>> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com 
>> 
>> 🦅
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>> Fred Olver
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 8:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: NFL stream service
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, one needs to be a premium subscriber for NFL games on Tune-IN. I will
>> subscribe because of the college football games as well. For those of you
>> who may want to listen to Michigan State University football and/or
>> basketball games you can go to the WJR app and listen there without paying a
>> fee, at least that is the way it was last year.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Fred Olver
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> 
>> From: Duane Steele 
>> 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2022 9:53 AM
>> 
>> Subject: Re: NFL stream service

Re: NFL stream service

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

Yeah. That. 

> On Aug 3, 2022, at 15:27, James English  wrote:
> 
> 'Due to rights restrictions in North America.'
> 
> It's great to see American companies really caring about their
> international audience.
> 
> On 8/3/22, 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> All I can say about that is just wow.
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2022, at 15:23, James English  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello James,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for writing to us. Due to rights restrictions in North America,
>>> content provided by the NFL is no longer available with TuneIn
>>> Premium. However, you will be able to listen to all prime time games
>>> for free. Additionally, certain stations will broadcast live game
>>> coverage to in-market listeners for free. You’ll still have access to
>>> tons of free football content including in-depth team coverage,
>>> national sports talk, as well as top football podcasts.
>>> 
>>> We love that users are passionate about certain content, and we’re
>>> truly sorry when this happens.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for understanding,
>>> ​
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Reuben
>>> TuneIn Inc.
>>> 
>>> On 8/3/22, kheve...@fuse.net  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.  I just sent them an email.  Wonder what response I will get.
>>>> Lolol!!
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Duane
>>>> Steele
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 1:31 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: NFL stream service
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> When this thread first started, I decided to avoid all ! speculation. If
>>>> you
>>>> search the thread, at some time this past Monday, I sent the response.
>>>> But
>>>> if you'd rather not sift through the e-mails, just send a note to:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> supp...@tunein.com <mailto:supp...@tunein.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this helps answer all the lingering questions.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2022, at 1:05 PM, kheve...@fuse.net <mailto:kheve...@fuse.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What email contact do you have for them?  I find it frustrating that
>>>> their
>>>> web site says one thing and your email says something totally different.
>>>> Sounds like they have a serious communication problem, at best.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
>>>> Of
>>>> Duane Steele
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 12:07 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: NFL stream service
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hello again,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On this thread I recently posted a note I received directly from TuneIn
>>>> support apologizing for the fact that due to contractual restrictions,
>>>> they
>>>> will not be carrying the NFL this season. So, if you have seen something
>>>> contrary to what TuneIn's own support team is saying, we'll just have to
>>>> wait till the season starts.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2022, at 11:57 AM, kheve...@fuse.net
>>>> <mailto:kheve...@fuse.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I went to tunein.com last night and they do still list nfl football
>>>> under
>>>> premium.  Where are listers seeing that tune in isn’t offering NFL games
>>>> this year?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
>>>> Of
>>>> Fred Olver
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 11:50 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googl

Re: NFL stream service

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

Yes. Now that’s what I have done here, and it works fine on all devices. 

> On Aug 5, 2022, at 01:22, Corey Cook  wrote:
> 
> At the risk of sounding rude, siriusXm has been presented as a very viable 
> option to solve this problem think y'all should just sign up for SiriusXM
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2022, at 1:14 AM, Richard Turner > > wrote:
>> 
>> It was easy to listen on TuneIn and SiriusXM app.
>> I've signed up for the SiriusXM Platinum trial since that will also give 
>> access to MLB and NBA as well as NFL.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 4, 2022, at 9:19 PM, Dennis Long >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have you tried turning on screen recognition?  This is what I was worried 
>>> about.  Another company that doesn’t care about accessibility.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> Andy Baracco
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2022 10:33 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: NFL stream service
>>>  
>>> I signed up for NFL plus and am unable to play the Hall of Fame Game.  I am 
>>> taken to the video player, but can't do anything else. Also, It's a bummer 
>>> to have to sign into my account whenever i want to listen to a game.
>>>  
>>> Andy
>>>  
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Daniel MacDonald 
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2022 10:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: NFL stream service
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> Actually, you can purch a SiriusXM subscription in the SiriusXM app. There 
>>> are two different plans, one for everything they offer, and one just for 
>>> music. I got an update to the SiriusXM app, which allows this in app 
>>> purchase. The platinum subscription is the one you want. Update the app, 
>>> select view plans. Double-tap on Platnum. Then double-tap on purchase. Then 
>>> it will show the platinum subscription price of $11.99. You get a three 
>>> month trial. Good luck, reply back if you have questions to this list and 
>>> I’ll help you.
>>> Regards,
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2022, at 11:54 AM, Duane Steele >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, 
>>>  
>>> I'm a tuneIn subscriber. I suspect you're right about tuneIn carrying the 
>>> NFL. But I also suspect that you'll have to be a premium subscriber to take 
>>> advantage of this service. We'll know soon when the pre-season games begin.
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Peace & Blessings, 
>>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2022, at 8:32 AM, Fred Olver >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Was thinking about getting the NFL streaming service, but I want the 
>>> college football as well. I checked Tune-in and looks like they will still 
>>> be carrying the NFL games this fall, I hope, anyway.
>>>  
>>> Fred Olver
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: William James 
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 9:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: NFL stream service
>>>  
>>> I will stick with Sirius XM for all my sports. 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 27, 2022, at 9:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Hmm, I have a few questions about this.
>>> I wonder if TuneIn will still be carrying the  radio broadcasts of the NFL 
>>> games.
>>> I wonder if this will be accessible. I didn’t find the NFL Game Pass 
>>> accessible. It was so bad, and the NFL Game Pass Support didn’t care that 
>>> there app wasn’t accessible, so I went as far as submitting a complaint to 
>>> the DoJ under the ADA. The DoJ thanked me for filing a complaint and said 
>>> they’d keep it in the records in case they ever decided to take any action 
>>> against the NFL. I recently got a response to my support ticket asking if 
>>> there was anything else they could do, but I said that between TuneIn 
>>> carrying the games and my complaint to the DoJ, I was good.
>>> This price is a lot cheaper then it used to be when you had to shell out 
>>> $99 a year to get access to the radio broadcasts, but it’s still quite a 
>>> bit more expensive than the NBA where you get all of the radio broadcasts 
>>> for the entire season for $10.
>>> --
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> Dennis Long
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 4:38 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegr

Re: iPhone SE.

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe not? I 
could be wrong about that. 
Kind regards,
Crayton Benner

> On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or allow 
> water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> James B  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: iPhone SE.
>  
> Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out 
> over time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way 
> to feel the results of the gestures which replace the home button for 
> VoiceOver usders is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics 
> to a higher percent. This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. 
> Personally, even without taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling 
> the bumps even when I can't hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at 
> all.
>  
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer  > wrote:
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>> tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
>> I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
>> not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
>> contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
>> little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
>> you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
>> work around action?
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Re: iPhone SE.

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Yep. I am right there with you. I don’t miss the home button personally either. 

> On Aug 13, 2022, at 06:18, Michael Feir  wrote:
> 
> Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out 
> over time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way 
> to feel the results of the gestures which replace the home button for 
> VoiceOver usders is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics 
> to a higher percent. This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. 
> Personally, even without taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling 
> the bumps even when I can't hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at 
> all.
> 
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer  > wrote:
> I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
> tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
> I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
> not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
> contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
> little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
> you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
> work around action?
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Re: iPhone SE.

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

Yes. It does handle finger prints just like the older phones did. Same process 
too. 
Kind regards, 
Crayton Benner

> On Aug 13, 2022, at 08:27, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
> 
> Curtis,
> 
> I got the new SE a couple of weeks ago, and am very happy with it.  I chose 
> it because I'm not ready to give up the home button just yet.  The home 
> button does have a different feel.  When you put your finger on the screen, 
> you feel a round spot at the bottom of the screen, which feels like you would 
> expect the home button to feel, however They say it isn't an actual button.  
> When you put pressure on it, it doesn't move, but you do feel the response of 
> the phone as a single vibration in the phone itself, rather than under your 
> finger.  , The intensity of the response is adjustable in the Settings menu.  
>  
> 
> You can tell your friend that it does handle fingerprints just like the older 
> phones. 
> 
> Karen P
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Curtis Delzer
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 1:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone SE.
> 
> I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
> tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
> I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
> not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
> contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
> little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
> you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
> work around action?
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Re: Activating the BARD mobile app

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Once you enter that in, you should be fine. 

> On Aug 23, 2022, at 17:01, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
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> Yes; BARD Mobile wants the same username and password you use to bogin on 
> your computer.
> 
> Kathy Blackburn
> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Aug 23, 2022 3:38 PM, Ann Byrne 
>  wrote:
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>> Does the BARD mobile app on the phone expect the same userID and 
>> password as NLSBARD on the computer?  Trying to put in my info, and 
>> the app says invalid userID or password. But there is no place to put 
>> in the userID again, and I don't see a way to confirm the 
>> password.  I have logged in to the NLSBARD site on my computer with 
>> no problem, but I can't get into the stinkin' app on the phone. 
>> 
>> Rescue would be awesome! 
>> 
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Re: Native Mail app and folder presentation

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I wonder if that is something like a bug maybe? If it is, it’s something to 
report. 

> On Aug 24, 2022, at 14:18, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> Donna,
>  
> Thanks for the reply but this doesn’t work. I executed the Edit button as you 
> advised from the Mailboxes screen but only certain folders can be reordered 
> from this screen and Sent isn’t one of them. I called Apple Accessibility and 
> they confirmed that the Sent folder could not be reordered. 
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2022 11:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Native Mail app and folder presentation
>  
> When you are in the list of mailboxes, tap the edit button in the upper 
> right, swipe down to Sent mailbox, you should be able to drag & drop the 
> mailbox to where you want it. Tap Done in upper right.
>  
> Donna
>  
>>  
>> 
>> Hi List,
>>  
>> I use the native Mail app on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 15.6.1. When I 
>> open the Mailboxes Back button in the upper left corner of the Inbox screen, 
>> I’m presented with the Inbox at the top, followed by VIP, followed by the 
>> folders available in my Gmail account. I want the ability to set the Sent 
>> Items folder to show at the top just below the Inbox but cannot figure out a 
>> way to do this. I’ve just about concluded that I can’t do it but thought I’d 
>> run the question by those on this list before giving up. Any help with this 
>> issue would be greatly appreciated.
>>  
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Re: question if there is a tutorial on how to use google maps with vo or the other map apps with vo?

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

I am not to sure if apple’s has one, but that is a good place to check see. 

> On Aug 24, 2022, at 14:33, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
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> Hi all I was just looking around on the google maps ap in my gps folder as 
> well as the maps ap from apple. I see the button for entering destination and 
> stuff and also the button for driving but I am wondering if there is a 
> tutorial on how to use this with vo? Many thanks. From Mich.
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Re: rainbird st8-wifi irrigation timer app

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Wow. This looks like something that I should take a look at. 

> On Aug 30, 2022, at 17:30, Donald Raikes  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Recently I got a rainbird st8-wifi-2.0 irrigation timer. It has an app
> which allows the user to monitor/program the 8 stations, but I am
> struggling to figure out how or whether this app is at all accessible.
> 
> I can sort of see the 4 zzones that my landscaper programmed when the
> timer was installed, but I can't figure out how to change the
> programming or manually run a station.
> 
> Has anyone had any experience with this app (rainbird utilities) on
> the app store?
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Re: On-screen keyboard disappears or fails to appear

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I know that this also can happen if you use a bluetooth keyboard as well. 

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 17:40, Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi Richard,
> 
> Do you sometimes use a braille display? If so, connect it and bring up an 
> edit field. Then on the display, press Space with 146 (the SH symbol for 
> Show/Hide). This should reveal the keyboard. Then turn off the display. the 
> keyboard should remain.
> 
> I also suggest going into VoiceOver Settings, choosing Braille, and setting 
> it to always show the onscreen keyboard.
> 
> HTH,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Richard Turner > > wrote:
>> 
>> I could use a flash of brilliance about now from someone who can intuit what 
>> the heck I did to settings.
>> Yesterday, and now today, whenever I bring up an edit box as in writing an 
>> email, replying to an email, trying to do a web search, etc., I hear the 
>> sound that gos with QuickNav, or used to. But, I have QuickNav set to speak 
>> in the verbosity settings; and there is no external keyboard connected.
>> But, when I hit reply, compose, etc., and touch where the keyboard should be 
>> I hear the sound that seems like the toggle of quick nav, and there is no 
>> keyboard.
>> I'm going to call Apple Accessibility and have them do a screen share if 
>> someone doesn't already know what setting I messed up to cause this.
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> -- Jane Wagner 
>>   
>> 
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Re: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

I appreciate this a lot. 

> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:55, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Since I had put up incorrect information on my web site, I wanted to send the 
> instructions provided by Apple from their support page.  I will be updating 
> my documentation but this is important information that everyone should have 
> handy.
>  
> Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208076 
> 
>  
> With Emergency SOS, you can quickly and easily call for help and alert your 
> emergency contacts.
>  
> Here's how it works
> When you make a call with SOS, your iPhone automatically calls the local 
> emergency number. In some countries and regions, you might need to choose the 
> service that you need. For example, in China mainland you can choose police, 
> fire, or ambulance. 
>  
> You can also add emergency contacts. After an emergency call ends, your 
> iPhone alerts your emergency contacts with a text message, unless you choose 
> to cancel. Your iPhone sends them your current location, and, for a period of 
> time after you enter SOS mode, it sends updates to your emergency contacts 
> when your location changes.
>  
> Call emergency services
> Here's how to make the call on iPhone 8 or later:
> Press and hold the side button and one of the Volume buttons until the 
> Emergency SOS slider appears.
> Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services. If you continue to 
> hold down the side button and Volume button, instead of dragging the slider, 
> a countdown begins and an alert sounds. If you hold down the buttons until 
> the countdown ends, your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.
>  
> Here's how to make the call on iPhone 7 or earlier:
> Rapidly press the side (or top) button five times. The Emergency SOS slider 
> will appear. (In India, you only need to press the button three times, then 
> your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.) 
> Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services.
> After the call ends, your iPhone sends your Emergency contacts a text message 
> with your current location, unless you choose to cancel. If Location Services 
> is off, it will temporarily turn on. If your location changes, your contacts 
> will get an update, and you'll get a notification about 10 minutes later.
>  
> If you use the Emergency SOS shortcut, you need to enter your passcode to 
> re-enable Touch ID, even if you don't complete a call to emergency services.
>  
> Stop sharing your location
> When your location is being shared, you'll get a reminder to stop every 4 
> hours for 24 hours. To stop the updates, tap the status bar and select "Stop 
> Sharing Emergency Location." 
>  
> End a call
> If you start the countdown by accident, you can cancel. On iPhone 8 or later, 
> release the side button and Volume button. On iPhone 7 or earlier, press the 
> Stop button, then tap Stop Calling. 
>  
> If you accidentally call emergency services, you can end the call. Tap the 
> red end call icon, then confirm that you want to stop calling.
>  
> Add emergency contacts
> Open the Health app and tap your profile picture .
> Tap Medical ID.
> Tap Edit, then scroll to Emergency Contacts.
> Tap the add button  to add an emergency contact.
> Tap a contact, then add their relationship.
> Tap Done to save your changes.
> You cannot set emergency services as an SOS contact.
>  
> Remove emergency contacts
> Open the Health app and tap your profile picture .
> Tap Medical ID.
> Tap Edit, then scroll to Emergency Contacts.
> Tap the delete button  next to a contact, then tap Delete.
> Tap Done to save your changes.
>  
> Turn off Auto Call
> When Auto Call is on and you try to make an emergency call, your iPhone 
> begins a countdown and sounds an alert. After the countdown ends, your iPhone 
> automatically calls emergency services.
>  
> Here's how to change the setting:
> Open the Settings app on your iPhone.
> Tap Emergency SOS.
> Turn Auto Call on or off.
> If you turn off this setting, you can still use the Emergency SOS slider to 
> make a call.
>  
> Change how you call
> On iPhone 8 or later, you can choose to call by pressing the side button five 
> times. Here's how to change the setting:
> Open the Settings app on your iPhone.
> Tap Emergency SOS.
> Turn Call with Side Button on or off. Pressing and holding the side button 
> along with the Volume button will continue to work when this is on.
>  
> Set up other emergency features
> Use Emergency SOS on your Apple Watch: 
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT206983 
> 

Re: Powering off iPhone

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

If that’s the phone you have, then yes. That’s what you would do 

> On Nov 23, 2021, at 20:27, Wendy Lin  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys, thanks for your help. I actually have the iPhone 6S, so I guess it’s 
> holding down the power button.
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2021, at 1:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Which iPhone do you have? If it's anything like an XR, 11, 12 or 13 series 
>> phone holding the side button does not bring up the Power Off screen, you 
>> have to either press and hold one of the volume buttons along with the side 
>> button at the same time or press first volume up briefly, then volume down 
>> and then press and hold the side button for about 2 seconds.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy 
>> Lin
>> Sent: November 22, 2021 8:16 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Powering off iPhone
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> Is it normal when the power button doesn’t always work to power off the 
>> phone? Sometimes when I need to wipe down my iPhone and I want to power off 
>> my device first before doing so, I notice when I hold down the power button 
>> that I’m not always given the dialogue with the power off button and cancel 
>> button, so I would have to turn off my phone in the settings.
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Re: Question about Siri

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Normally it has to do with your connection. Try restarting your phone and also 
your router and try again. 

> On Nov 26, 2021, at 07:50, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> What is the device name under settings, general, About?
> Have you checked your wi-fi router'! connection? Maybe unplug the router for 
> 30 seconds and plug it back in and wait a minute while it reconnects.
> Then you may need to reset your phone's network settings, but maybe the 
> router restart will take care of it.
> Siri will use the name in the About settings to identify your device.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> website:  www.turner42.com 
> 
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
> 
>> On Nov 26, 2021, at 4:42 AM, Johna Gravitt > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Not sure if this thread has been discussed already, but I have a question:
>> When I tell Siri to open apps she gives me a variety of answers but mostly 
>> “check your connection” or “I’m having trouble with the connection, check 
>> your device settings” or something like that.  My point is she won’t open 
>> apps.  She thinks my phone is an iPod.  Any suggestions?
>> My husband was having the same issue yesterday and mine just started today.  
>> I am running the latest IOS version on a SE 2020
>> Thanks,
>> Johna
>>  
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Re: Braille screen input - was - Re: you mail

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

As do I. It’s a very neat method to typing. 

> On Aug 12, 2021, at 00:39, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> 
> I love Braille Screen Input! It’s so much faster for me than using the 
> onscreen keyboard. It does take some getting used to at first, but when 
> mastered, is great IMHO. But, as you said Richard, to each his or her own. :) 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 9:56 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I found using braille screen input rather easy to master.
>> 
>> But, to each his/her own.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: you mail
>> 
>> I have never used braille screen input.  I always use the regular on screen 
>> keyboard.  I have no idea how to use braille screen input.  It sounds 
>> difficult.
>> 
>>> On 8/10/21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>> No, I turned off my braille display, and also made sure my Orbit 
>>> Writer was also off. Right now I'm using braille screen input with 
>>> success here in this email. Perhaps a reboot will help. I have the 
>>> iPhone 8 Plus with iOS 14.7.1.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 10, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Richard Turner 
 
 wrote:
 
 
 ON an off chance, do you have a keyboard connected and the phone 
 thinks it is in quick nav?
 
 
 
 
 Richard
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 Of CHELA Robles
 Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: you mail
 
 Well, when you open the app, and give it permissions like other apps 
 do, then it asks you to input your 10-digit phone number, followed by 
 an email and create a password, however, I'm having difficulty with 
 regards to inputting my phone number, all I hear is the sound one 
 here's when voiceover has reached the end of a screen and nothing is 
 in the text field though I've clearly double-tapped to make sure I was in 
 edit mode.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
> On Aug 10, 2021, at 6:14 AM, Casey Wollner  wrote:
 
 
 Hi for those of you who use the you mail app what is the best way to 
 set it up and do you have to pay for all of its futures?
 Or is the free version good enough?
 And then how do you set it up and then disable your voice mail so it 
 will use the you mail App?
 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Wireless charging pad

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

If you’re having a problem with a charging pad, use a charging stand. It does 
the job very very well. 

> On Aug 17, 2021, at 17:05, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> That is why I like to use a charging stand as it is a lot easier to line up 
> on the charging stand then a pad.
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 3:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Wireless charging pad
> 
> It might be just a little bit of a challenge to get the phone placed just 
> right. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Star Gazer
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 3:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Wireless charging pad
> 
> Thank you. My problem is I seem to be inconsistent in placing it and I’m not 
> sure why.. unless the chargers pause to preserve battery health? Sometimes 
> mine charges like a champ other times  not and other times it appears to 
> pause. 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
>  
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 3:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Wireless charging pad
> 
> 
> 
> hi,
> 
> 
> 
> After I placed my phone on the wireless charger, I routinely touch the top 
> right corner of the screen to get the battery level announcement. If it is 
> charging it will tell me battery level 60% on AC power. If it is not 
> accurately placed on the charger, it just announces battery level 60%.
> 
> 
> 
> Hope this helps. Keith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   On Aug 17, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Star Gazer  
> wrote:
> 
>    
> 
>I like the convenience of 
> wireless charging but I’m finding my phone isn’t always centered on the 
> charger. I will feel it vibrate, here a ping sound, it will say its charging 
> and then it will just randomly stop. The charger is fine, obody else has the 
> problem of their phones not being centered, so I’m wondering if any totally 
> blind users who like wireless charging can give me a hint? 
> 
>
> 
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> 
>   From: Brett Campbell  
>   Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:59 AM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>   Subject: Re: Wireless charging pad
> 
>
> 
>   I received mine yesterday. I don’t have experience to compare either, 
> but I did think it would charge a little faster. It is kind of fun just to 
> lay the phone down and have it charge. I do have to pay attention to not 
> bumping it off center. I also like just setting my AirPods Pro on the pad.
> 
>   
>   
>   
>   
> 
>   On Aug 17, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
> 
>
> 
>   To my surprise, the Nanami Wireless Charger that was due to 
> arrive today, actually arrived on Sunday morning.  Delivered by the US Post 
> Office no less.
> 
>
> 
>   This being my first hands-on with a wireless charging pad, this 
> is what I can say.
> 
>   It is about 3.75 inches in diameter.
> 
>   It comes with the “fast” charging block and a USB A to USB C 
> cable that is 3 feet long.
> 
>   When plugged in properly to the pad, the USB C plug clicks into 
> place so you know you have a good solid connection.
> 
>
> 
>   I don’t know what “fast” charging means on an iPhone SE 2020, 
> but I have a thin clear case that is rated to work with wireless charging 
> pads.  My phone went from 10% to 100% in a little over three hours.  Again, 
> this is my first experience with this kind of charger; but that doesn’t seem 
> fast to me.  Maybe I’m missing something.
> 
>
> 
>   You do have to make sure it is in the center of the back of the 
> phone, which means that if you press the home button at all, it will teeter 
> up off the charger so you have to hold it down with the other hand.  When I 
> get a phone with no home button, which I plan to do this fall, and if I keep 
> the charger, that won’t be an issue.
> 
>
> 
>   HTH,
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>   Richard
> 
>   Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
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Re: phone won't do anything

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

That’s what I would say too. It’s a good thing to do every once in a while. 

> On Aug 26, 2021, at 11:04, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> That is what Joseph said. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Janet Bell
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 8:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: phone won't do anything
> 
> I can't tell you what the problem was apart from what I  stated earlier 
> basically the phone just locked and would't move any which way.  to fix it 
> you press the volume up button first and them the volume down button and 
> finally press the power button in holding it in for about a minute or a 
> minute and a half.  by which time you're phone should have gone off and reset 
> itself.  hope that is of some help to you.  Janet
> 
> On 26/08/2021 13:00, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>> Just curious: What was the problem and how did you solve it?
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>> 
>> On Aug 26, 2021, at 6:23 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> problem has been solved.  thanks to all.  Janet
>> 
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Re: Spatial audio?

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

No way. That’s awesome. I am glad that that works. 

> On Aug 30, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> IF you have an Apple Music subscription, if you go to search, there is a 
> button for Spatial audio and all things in there have it.
> Some are Fearless, Taylor’s version by Taylor Swift
> All Things Must Pass, 50th Anniversary Edition by George Harrison
> A bunch of Billie Eilish songs.
>  
> HTH,
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 3:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Spatial audio?
>  
> I use Beats Flex headphones.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 12:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Spatial audio?
>  
> It is more whether your headphone support it. 
> What headphones do you have?
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
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> On Aug 30, 2021, at 1:57 AM, Fanus Buys  > wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Richard
> Can you name a song which supports spacial audio. I would like to hear what 
> it sounds like.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 3:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Spatial audio?
>  
> yes, if you have headphones that support it I think. 
>  
> I have the Airpods Max with my SE 2020 and it works great.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
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> 
> On Aug 29, 2021, at 4:04 PM, Lelia Struve  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all, so I know that you can get spatial audio on an iPhone 11 and up but 
> can you get it with the iPhone SE220?
> Thanks 
> 
> Lelia 
> 
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Re: SuperSense Bar Code Reader: Was Re: Super sense gets between 2 and 3 stars

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

Yep. I am right there with you guys. To me, I don’t think it’s worth putting 
money down on that. 

> On Dec 27, 2021, at 19:30, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
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> I agree that these features work well, but I already have Eye Note and Seeing 
> AI for free, and Voice Dream Scanner. It just doesn't encourage me to pay $50 
> for SuperSense. There is absolutely no way, none, no way that I would pay $99 
> for it. 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
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> On Dec 27, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Richard Turner  
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> tell
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Re: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

That’s what I did, and it worked. 

> On Dec 28, 2021, at 08:00, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Not sure if it’s in the same place as my Airpod Pros, but try Settings -> 
> Bluetooth and then go into More Info on your AirPods. You can get to this by 
> doing a flick down when you get to the entry for your AirPods.
>  
> --
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> Chaltain at Outlook
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Debbie Downey
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 8:35 PM
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> Subject: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation
>  
> Hello,
>  
> I received my Air Pods 3rd generation and to my surprise they just about 
> connected on their own without having to go through the pairing process with 
> holding in the button to pair.
>  
> Anyway, I got a brief description of how many times to press or squeeze each 
> stem to do different things but how do I find this information? I remember 
> customizing my 2nd generation AirPods but that was a long time ago and I 
> can’t remember where to do this. Are you able to customize how you want to 
> control these like with the previous models?
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> Thanks!
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Re: My Neffew got Air pods for christmass and I looked it them.

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

I don’t remember the cost, but I can tell you with voice over, They are 
wonderfull

> On Dec 28, 2021, at 08:24, mich verrier  wrote:
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> Hi my neffew got Air pods I think it was the third jen they are the ones with 
> the magnetic case and I had a chance to look at them. I am wondering what are 
> the cost of air pods? Of korce my neffew beaing sighted he doesn’t use 
> voiceover but for those who are blind and vi on this list who have air pods 
> how easy are they to pair and use with vo? Since after seeing them it makes 
> me kind of want a pair lol. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario 
> Canada.
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Re: Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

As far as I can remember, it’s been broke. It’s been reported multiple times 
too. 

> On Jan 8, 2022, at 09:52, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> Rick I wonder the same thing.  When creating a routine the slider bar is not 
> accessible for example how bright you want something like lights or what 
> temperature you want something to turn on  or off at.  This has been broke 
> forever.  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> rick.alf...@gmail.com 
> Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 11:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:
>  
> Don, I had the same problem a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, there is a button 
>  that you have to tap to get past this screen which is totally inaccessible 
> with VoiceOver. I had to have my sighted wife tap on it to get past it. You 
> can’t help but wonder if Amazon does any accessibility testing when making 
> changes.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Warmest regards
>  
> Rick Alfaro
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Don 
> Breda
> Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 8:01 AM
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> Subject: Re: Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:
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> Thanks very much.
>  
> Donna I have an iPhone 8 so screen recognition is not an option.
>  
> James,
>  
> I did try that once  and it didn't work but of course I probably didn't tap 
> the exact spot.
>  
> I will give it another shot.
>  
> Don
>  
>  
> On 1/7/2022 6:34 AM, Don Breda wrote:
>> Hi listers,
>>  
>> I wanted to add a speaker to a group I previously created in the Alexa app a 
>> long time ago.
>>  
>> I found I was unable to do that.
>>  
>> When going to the devices tab I now get a screen that says introducing 
>> favorites and I can't find a way to get rid of it or do anying with it at 
>> all.
>>  
>> This prevents me from working with my devices and speaker groups.
>>  
>> Has anyone found a way around this?
>>  
>> I did try the pass through gesture with no luck and the amazon website 
>> doesn't have the alexa control interface as it used to.
>>  
>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>>  
>> Don
>>  
>>  
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Re: Facebook

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

That or go and turn on 2 step authentication. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 8, 2022, at 16:09, Wayne Scott  wrote:
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> That means your account was hacked. If a lot of get those, you'll need to 
> make a mew account. people 
> 
> Wayne Scott  
>  
> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2022, at 1:10 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
>>> 
>> What can you do if people tell you they got a friend request from you but 
>> it wasn’t from you? I would need detailed step by step  instructions. I 
>> already went in myself but couldn’t figure out where to go. . Thanks!
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Re: Rover.com accessibility?

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

No. Never have gotten that to work unfortunately. 

> On Feb 21, 2022, at 15:07, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
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> I’m looking for a petsitter on Rover and am having accessibility issues both 
> on the app and website.  Anyone here been able to book a petsetter and if so, 
> how did you do it?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Kim
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Re: Orbit Reader and editing

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

Anyone who has questions about the orbit reader, I would say join the list. 
There are a lot of helpful people on there who would be more then happy to 
answer any questions you might have. 

> On Feb 26, 2022, at 12:05, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure of the distinction you are making.
> 
> If you are doing space+dot3 with the rotor on words, are you not using the 
> Orbit to move the cursor?
> 
> If you are using any keyboard, qwerty or braille, the only way to move the 
> cursor is with VoiceOver commands using the keyboard.
> 
> I don’t think just using the arrow keys works when connected to the iPhone.
> 
> Perhaps it should.  
> 
> A new build for the firmware is going into beta testing next week for the 
> Orbit Reader 20 plus.  This would be a good time to request any changes to 
> the current functionality.
> 
> You may also want to join the Orbit-reader groups.io list.
> orbit-reader+subscr...@groups.io
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
> Poulakos
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 8:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Orbit Reader and editing
> 
> I know about using the Rotor.  Is there a way to move the cursor using the 
> Orbit reader?
> 
> Karen
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Orbit Reader and editing
> 
> You can use the move by word, then character, to get to the problem.  Use the 
> rotor commands, space+dots2,3 turn rotor counterclockwise. Space+dots5,6, 
> turns the rotor clockwise. space+dot3 moves by whatever rotor choice to the 
> left, and space+6 goes to the right. So, using word and character on the 
> rotor will get You to the spot.
> Of  course the lines option helps too when needing to move farther.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe 
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> faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a 
> precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too 
> late."
> 
> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
> Paul)
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2022, at 8:12 AM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
>> 
>> ?I am using my new Orbit Reader 20 Plus with an older iPhone SE.  When 
>> writing an email message, sometimes when reading through it before 
>> sending, I will find an error I need to correct.  How can I get the 
>> braille cursor back to the spot I need to correct.  Any help is much 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Karen P
>> 
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Re: Orbit Writer

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

Yes. Nothing like being able to use   the orbit writer. 

> On Mar 3, 2022, at 07:26, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Another thing I like about the Orbit Writer is that I can use it with my 
> Apple Watch. Since Bluetooth keyboards aren't supported on the Apple Watch, I 
> don't think you could use a Hable One or a Ribo with the Apple Watch. You 
> also can't use querty Bluetooth keyboards with the Apple Watch, so this is 
> something VoiceOver users can use that sighted people can't do.
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 11:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Orbit Writer
> 
> The Hable One is brilliant for unlocking and using my iPhone while it is 
> still in a zipped pocket under my coat. The typing style is exactly like 
> Braille Screen Input which I find more tiring. And nothing beats the Orbit 
> Writer’s navigation wheel plus Select button, which replaces swiping and 
> tapping in such an uncomplicated way!
> Harry
> 
>> On 2 Mar 2022, at 22:08, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> I prefer my Hable One.  I wouldn't touch an orbit writer.  I like 
>> that my Hable One has fewer keys then the orbit writer.  I also don't 
>> have to go into voice over accessibility then braille settings just to 
>> connect my Hable One.  I just turn on my Hable, go to bluetooth 
>> settings and there it is.  It is easy as anything.
>> 
>>> On 3/2/22, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>> Hmm, I'll have to take a look, but I'd think this could be changed in 
>>> IOS's keyboard or braille settings.
>>> 
>>> I too love my Orbit Writer. I like the fact that I can pair it to 
>>> multiple devise and then switch between them. The only thing I 
>>> thought was a challenge, and this isn't the fault of the device 
>>> itself, is all of the keyboard commands I tried to learn to replace 
>>> any on screen gesture I might use. There's just a lot of them and 
>>> there's only so much Apple and Orbit can do to make them intuitive.
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>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Jennie Facer
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 10:51 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Orbit Writer
>>> 
>>> The only thing I did not like about the Writer is that when i 
>>> backspaced something, it would not tell me what i was deleting. Other 
>>> than that, I love it!
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
 On Mar 2, 2022, at 8:29 AM, Brandon A. Olivares 
 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've been seeing discussion of the Orbit Reader on the list. This 
 prompted me to look up the product as I had never heard of it before.
 
 That's when I discovered the Orbit Writer. I'm wondering if anyone 
 here has used it and what your impression of it is? I don't care as 
 much right now about having a braille display, but having an easier 
 way to write in braille would be useful. Any input or tips would be 
 appreciated.
 
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Re: Is Siri the problem?

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

I am not having these issues with Siri here either. It seems to be working 
fine. 

> On Mar 5, 2022, at 10:19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I'm not having any issues with Siri at all.  Well, the occasional Try again, 
> but that is simply server overload...
> 
> As for your volume issue, ask Siri something like What is the 10 day 
> forecast? And while it is talking, turn the volume up to the level you want 
> Siri to speak at.
> Siri's volume will stay that way now, or at least it should.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
> Rash
> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2022 5:34 AM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Is Siri the problem?
> 
> Are most of us having issues with Siri during the last couple of IOS updates? 
>  If dictating a message, Siri is so low in volume that Ican’t hear it 
> repeating the message back to me.  Also Siri rarely gets the dictation 
> correct.  Also sometimes I cannot turn the volume up on the Home Screen.  
>  Siri issues 
> If I turn blue tooth off that sometimes fixes the problem.  Just wondering if 
> this is a known issue.  Thanks. much.
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Re: how to switch to a call waiting call

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

Yes. Then it will switch to that call that is coming in. 

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:32, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> 
> When the second call comes in, press the hold and except button.
> Amy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:30 PM, Casey  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi one time I was on A call and then another call came in.
>> 
>> Had to switch over to the second call and it disconnected the first call.
>> 
>> So what is the best way to have the first caller wait and still be on the 
>> line after you switch over to the second call and then go back to the first 
>> call after you are done with the second call?
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Re: Snooze alarm.

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

Yes. It will for that alarm at least. 

> On Mar 14, 2022, at 09:46, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I will do that. Will it keep it off indefinitely? I would imagine a change in 
> my clock could have come with an update. I don't use my alarm a lot. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Debby
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2022 8:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Snooze alarm.
> 
> Hi Carolyn,
> 
> 
> 
> If you want to turn snooze off for that alarm, go to the clock app, select 
> the alarm tab at the bottom of the screen, find your alarm and flick up to 
> edit and double tap. Toward the bottom on that screen is a toggle to turn the 
> snooze function on and off. There is a “save” button at the top of the 
> screen. Double tap that and you are back on the alarms screen.
> 
> 
> 
> I hope that helps!
> 
> 
> 
> Take care and stay safe!
> 
> 
> 
> Debby
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
> hudson
> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2022 10:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Snooze alarm.
> 
> 
> 
> The next time it goes off, just double tap on the stop button. The screen 
> lock button will also snooze it as well.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   On Mar 13, 2022, at 12:34 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
>  > wrote:
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>
> 
>   I never used or liked snooze, don’t want to get up until I have to, 
> then, go for it. So, this morning, when I set my clock to be sure to get up, 
> to my surprise this time, it had snooze on it. I did not know how to turn the 
> thing off. For one thing, I had no idea it was going to do that, since, in 
> the past, it has not done it. 
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>   So, here’s my question: what do I do to turn it off?
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Re: Charging My Phone

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

Hi. 
I don't see why that would be a problem of any sorts. 
Kind regards, 
Crayton 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2022, at 22:01, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
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> Hi, Everyone,
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> I'm absolutely loving my new iPhone and have a question.  I leave it on all 
> day and all night because I have a Fitbit that measures not only my steps, 
> but how long I sleep.
> 
> Would it be safe it I place the phone in Low Power mode at night, so I don't 
> waste too much battery life?
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> Thanks so much.
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Re: My Alarm in the Morning

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Strange? The song option should still be there as far as I know. 

> On Mar 23, 2022, at 23:04, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
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> I have a dilemma here.  When I had my 7+ phone, I was able to set an alarm to 
> a particular song and it would play.  However, since I've had this phone, the 
> alarm goes off with just the vibration and without the music.
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Re: My Alarm in the Morning

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

I will have to try this again. The last time that I tried this, I couldn’t get 
this to work. 

> On Mar 28, 2022, at 03:23, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
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> The song is there, it just doesn't play. I tried deleting this song and 
> putting it back in. We will see what happens. Thanks a lot. Esther
> 
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>> On Mar 24, 2022, at 9:50 AM, 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
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>> Strange? The song option should still be there as far as I know. 
>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2022, at 23:04, Esther Levegnale >> <mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
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>>> 
>>> Hi, Everyone,
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>>> I have a dilemma here.  When I had my 7+ phone, I was able to set an alarm 
>>> to a particular song and it would play.  However, since I've had this 
>>> phone, the alarm goes off with just the vibration and without the music.
>>> 
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Re: How to stop VO from saying toolbar

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

Yes. That’s how you get rid of that.


> On Mar 29, 2022, at 10:11, Greg Wocher  wrote:
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> Hello,
> The setting you are looking for is under the verbosity settings for 
> voiceover. Open up your voiceover settings and navigate to verbosity. You 
> want to look for the one called container descriptions. You want to set this 
> to off and it should not say tool bar anymore.
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2022, at 7:41 AM, Michael Feir > > wrote:
>> 
>> That's probably an element of VoiceOver recognition. There's screen 
>> recognition, text recognition and image descriptions. Screen recognition can 
>> be really problematic but is occasionally useful on apps which are less 
>> accessible. If you have screen recognition in your rotor, you can turn it on 
>> or off while inside apps. You only have to do that once per app. If that's 
>> too bothersome, I tend to suggest people turn screen recognition off. Image 
>> descriptions and text recognition are both generally useful. Hope that helps.
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 9:28 PM Alvin Ng > > wrote:
>> I just reset all settings on my iPhone. I have forgotten what setting to 
>> look for to stop VO from saying toolbar. Please help.
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Re: Bible Apps able to open passage with voice command?

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

There is with the Alexa assistant, but in terms of an app. Nope. 

> On Apr 2, 2022, at 14:18, Cher Bosch  wrote:
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> Is there such a thing- where you say, read John 3:16 and it happens? 
>  
> If not, which Bible app is the easiest to navigate to several different 
> passages quickly? 
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Re: Initiating a WhatsApp call

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

Have you tried going to the persons contact within your contacts app and then 
initiating the call?

> On May 12, 2022, at 10:54, Casey Wollner  wrote:
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> Hi how do you find the desktop client and then how do you have it have the 
> same contacts as the one that is on your phone?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 9:52 AM
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> Subject: RE: Initiating a WhatsApp call
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> I don't think you can call anybody who is not in your contacts, there is no 
> dialpad in WhatsApp like there is in the Phone app because of course whoever 
> you call also has to be a WhatsApp user.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Monday, May 9, 2022 9:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Initiating a WhatsApp call
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am able to use WhatsApp if someone else has initiated the call but I can’t 
> figure out how I can find the person I want to call.  When I search it only 
> searches my contacts.  I have the person’s phone number and tried searching 
> that with no good results.  
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> As Always, thanks.
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Re: My experience with the NLS Reader

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

I happen to have one of these devices and I will say this. They're very simple 
to use and set up. I Recommend downloading the user guide though before you get 
the device and go through it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2022, at 08:39, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> The NLS Humanware braille eReader 20-cell braille display and the pilate 
> program for getting this and mobile hotspot devices for those who don't have 
> Internet access. I filled out a survey and only checked the braille display 
> apparently the state of California talking book library in northern 
> California is partaking in this pilot program sometime this summer or fall. 
> There were other options for devices that would be shipped to library patrons 
> but since I did no need the other technologies offered like the hotspot 
> device, I just chose the braille display.
> 
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> 
>> On May 19, 2022, at 4:53 AM, Charles Spicer  wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning, I am not sure what device is being discussed so would
>> you all please bring me up to speed?
>> Thank you!!!
>> 
 On 5/18/22, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>> I filled out the survey from the BTBL which is also taking part in this
>>> endeavour the pilate program in the summer or fall this year I had to fill
>>> it out meaning of the survey before May 31 so I filled it out last night I’m
>>> hoping to be selected to be part of this because I truly need a second
>>> braille display. Right now I don’t have the Necessary funds for buying the
>>> Actilino which I still would like in the future later on, but I'll take what
>>> I can afford, even if it's a chance to take part in the pilate program. I
>>> also would like to know about once the pilot program faces out if one can
>>> keep the braille display as well and steps for that if need be. And if there
>>> is a list for users in this program that would be nice as well. I will check
>>> out the manual.
>>> 
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>>> 
> On Apr 3, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
 
 Hi all, I heard that there is a mailing list for the pilot program for
 the human where  e reader. Or the other one I guess is that true? If so
 does anybody have the way to join? Thanks
 
 Lelia
 
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> On Apr 3, 2022, at 1:17 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Pricilla.  The humanware braille E-reader is not the BI-20X
> display, however, it is very similar.  I have a bi40x display instead
> of the 20x.  There is an hour long tutorial of the humanware braille
> E-reader available on bard that I highly recommend you take a quick
> look at.  Regarding a nicer case for your display, I recommend
> checking out the executive leather case for the bi20x display.  I saw
> it available from AT guys.  The cost is $95 which is expensive for a
> case, however, executive products makes wonderful cases and the cost
> is well worth it in my opinion.  You'd then have the sholder strap
> like you want, and the case is very nicely thick and padded for great
> protection of your device.  One of the differences between the
> humanware braille E-reader and the bi-20x display is on the 20x, you
> can directly download books from bookshare and the braille E-reader
> you cannot.  I'm glad you're enjoying your E-reader.
> 
>>> On 4/2/22, Priscilla Garces (prisci)  wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> This is Priscilla. I have a couple questions since I am new to the NLS
>> E-Reader pilot program and just received the NLS E-Reader because my
>> library
>> just got onboard.
>> So far, I’ve had it for a week.
>> I called my local Talking-book and Braille library and they said that
>> they
>> are currently participating in the pilot program. Some of my
>> observations of
>> the Humanware NLS E-reader are as follows:
>> When opening the cardboard box containing the device, I got very
>> excited
>> because the braille display felt just right and pretty comfortable for
>> me to
>> use. I liked the ergonomic keys and the fact that the space keys were
>> further apart from the braille display. That position is more
>> comfortable
>> for me, and the keys felt rather large. But then again,I have small
>> hands
>> and fingers because I’m very petite.
>> It came with two lanyards, one for the case holding the braille display,
>> and
>> the other one for the braille display itself. When closed, the braille
>> display looks like a small hardcover book which is cute, and with the
>> straps, it feels like wearing a cute pocketbook.
>> They’re meant to be hung around the neck, but I would prefer to use them
>> as
>> a shoulder strap and wear it as a small purse. Beware that the straps
>> are
>> indeed skinny and fragile, so you cannot put too much force on them.
>> I’d
>> prefer thicker straps with a stronger clip.