Re: Preserving SFS last reference date across a restore

2006-03-14 Thread Kris Buelens

Yesterday I got a private note from
Susan Farrel. And so I tested again:  and I was proven
wrong (or a bit wrong that is)
- FILEPOOL BACKUP/RESTORE preserves
all dates
- FILEPOOL UNLOAD/RELOAD does not (the
last-ref date is wrong)
So, I'm surprized that the most recent
tool is less good than the old one that exists since VM/SP R6 days.

At the other hand, we already started
installing HiDRO too. But I don't know if we will ever use it as
we are somewhat in a hurry. And, FILEPOOL BACKUP/RESTORE also transparantly
backups/restores files migrated by DFSMS. Does HiDRO supports that
too?

Kris,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support






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Kris,

If you run (VM:Backup) HiDRO ... All three dates for
*files* are
preserved when they are restored. The only date that end up to be
the
date of the restore/rebuild are the Create_Date for Directories. This
is because they are restored by issuing the CREATE DIRECTORY
COMMAND.

JR (Steven) Imler
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Subject: Preserving SFS last reference date across a restore

This weekend we have to regenerate an SFS filepool
that became much too
b=
ig.
As we do have processes that use the file creation
and last reference
dates, so we'd like to preserve them. When we tested this quite some
mon=
ths
ago we found a problem:
- when we use VM:Backup to do a full restore, the
creation date is
kept, but the lastref date is set to the restore date.
- when using FILEPOOL BACKUP/RESTORE, the last reference
date is kept
but the creation date gets set to the restore date.
My idea was to save the dates of all files (we have
this ready) and
using=

DMSOPCAT, DMSRDCAT and DMSWRCAT to restore the last
reference date. But
when I open the catalog for FILESPACE with intent READ, DMSRDCAT returns
=
the
records in which I can find all file dates, but a DMSWRCAT is forbidden
(=
csl
reasoncode 56400); if I open the catalog for FILESPACE with intent
WRITE,=
a
DMSRDCAT directly fails with reason 56400.

So, I am stuck. ANyone knows a solution?

Kris,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: Preserving SFS last reference date across a restore

2006-03-14 Thread Imler, Steven J



HiDRO supports preserving the "migrated shell" for each 
file that has been migrated. Therefore after you RESTORE/REGENERATE your 
FilePool(s), touching a migrated file will trigger the RECALL mechanism of DFSMS 
as you would expect.

When HiDRO backs up a FileSpace that contains migrated 
objects, a message is put out stating that particular domain contains one or 
more migrated objects.


JR (Steven) 
Imler
CA
Senior Software Engineer
Tel: +1 703 708 
3479
Fax: +1 703 708 
3267
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date across a restore
Yesterday I got a private note from 
Susan Farrel. And so I tested again:  and I was proven wrong (or 
a bit wrong that is) - FILEPOOL 
BACKUP/RESTORE preserves all dates - 
FILEPOOL UNLOAD/RELOAD does not (the last-ref date is wrong) So, I'm surprized that the most recent tool is less good 
than the old one that exists since VM/SP R6 days. At the other hand, we already started installing HiDRO 
too. But I don't know if we will ever use it as we are somewhat in a 
hurry. And, FILEPOOL BACKUP/RESTORE also transparantly backups/restores 
files migrated by DFSMS. Does HiDRO supports that too? 
Kris,IBM Belgium, VM customer 
support

  
  
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  Kris,If you run (VM:Backup) HiDRO 
... All three dates for *files* arepreserved when they are restored. 
The only date that end up to be thedate of the restore/rebuild are the 
Create_Date for Directories. Thisis because they are "restored" by 
issuing the CREATE DIRECTORY COMMAND.JR 
(Steven) ImlerCASenior Software EngineerTel: +1 703 708 
3479Fax: +1 703 708 
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Message-From: VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OnBehalf Of Kris BuelensSent: Friday, 
March 10, 2006 08:22 AMTo: VMESA-L@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Preserving 
SFS last reference date across a restoreThis weekend we have to regenerate an SFS filepool that became much 
toob=ig. As we do have processes that 
use the file creation and last referencedates, so we'd like to preserve 
them. When we tested this quite somemon=thsago we found a 
problem: - when we use VM:Backup to do a full 
restore, the creation date iskept, but the lastref date is set to the 
restore date. - when using FILEPOOL 
BACKUP/RESTORE, the last reference date is keptbut the creation date gets 
set to the restore date. My idea was to save 
the dates of all files (we have this ready) 
andusing=DMSOPCAT, DMSRDCAT and 
DMSWRCAT to restore the last reference date. Butwhen I open the 
catalog for FILESPACE with intent READ, DMSRDCAT returns=therecords 
in which I can find all file dates, but a DMSWRCAT is 
forbidden(=cslreasoncode 56400); if I open the catalog for FILESPACE 
with intentWRITE,= aDMSRDCAT directly 
fails with reason 56400.So, I am stuck. 
ANyone knows a solution?Kris,IBM 
Belgium, VM customer support 


ITO parameterfor LPR link

2006-03-14 Thread Horlick, Michael








Hi,



From what I see from examples, etc it seems that for an
LPR link, the ITO parameter is always set to 0. Each time a file is printed
there a bunch of messages and the link becomes inactive. I assume this is
because of the ITO parameter, correct? For example : 



RSCS RDR FILE 2745 SENT FROM
MIKE PRT WAS 4192 RECS 0017 CPY 001 A NOHOLD
NOKEEP 

RSCS DMTAXM101I File 2745 (2745)
enqueued on link
IPDELOR


RSCS DMTCMY700I Activating link
IPDELOR LPR line= class=*
queueing=priority


RSCS DMTLPR012I Link IPDELOR exit
routine LPRXONE loaded at
00F76140


RSCS DMTLPR181I Link IPDELOR ready
for session
initiation


RSCS DMTAXM109I File queue
reordered


RSCS DMTLPR193I Link IPDELOR
connecting to host 10.161.58.231 port 515 printer
RAW


RSCS DMTLPR146I Sending file 2745
(2745) on link IPDELOR from DEVVM(MIKE), records
17 

RSCS DMTLPR147I Sent file 2745
(2745) on link IPDELOR to
IPDELOR(SYSTEM)


RSCS 001 FILE
PURGED


RSCS DMTAXM105I File 2745
purged


RSCS DMTLPR193I Link IPDELOR
disconnecting from host 10.161.58.231 port 515 printer
RAW 

RSCS DMTLPR570I Link IPDELOR now set
to
deactivate


RSCS DMTLPR183I Link IPDELOR session
terminated


RSCS DMTMAN002I Link IPDELOR
deactivated


RSCS DMTAXM109I File queue reordered




If ITO is set to something different what is the
effect? Does it tie up the printer?



Mike Trying To Understand Horlick 











ITO parameterfor LPR link

2006-03-14 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
From what I see from examples, etc... it seems that for an LPR link, the
ITO parameter is always set to 0. Each time a file is printed there a
bunch of messages and the link becomes inactive. I assume this is
because of the ITO parameter, correct?

Correct this cause's the link to automatically terminate when there
are no more files to process.  AUTOSTART linkdefine parameter is
what cause's the link to start when a file is queue to it.


If  ITO is set to something different what is the effect? Does it tie up
the printer?

For an LPR link, the connection with the printer is terminated however
the link remains active for that time period.


Best Regards,
Les Geer
IBM z/VM and Linux Development


Re: VM/ESA 2.4 under z/VM 5.x

2006-03-14 Thread Adam Thornton

On Mar 14, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Alan Ackerman wrote:


I hope you can find someone who has tried it.

We haven't tried it. It certainly isn't supported. What hardware  
are you

planning to run on? VM
does not virtualize everything (in fact, cannot). z/VM 5.x is  
supported o

nly on zSeries and System
z9. VM/ESA 2.4.0 does not (officially) run on a z9.


You could certainly run it under Hercules under z/Linux, although  
there are probably licensing issues, since presumably VM/ESA 2.4 is  
not licensed to *that* processor.


Adam