Re: RealVNC v4b3 Comments, etc...
Would you be kind enough to resize one screen to smaller then other say 800x600. What happens to viewer? I do not have time to try until this weekend myself. jackb On 28 Jul 2003 at 18:12, Jerry Trowbridge wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:15:40 -0400, "Adam Pavelec" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >+ "Options" and "Close VNC Server" are grayed out in the > >+ "notification > >area icon" -- not sure if this an artifact from a prior install, but > >I did remove both HKLM\Software\ORL and HKCU\Software\ORL branches > >before installing v4b3. > > I get the same here, and also did an unstall of 3.x and fresh install > of 4b3. When you're running in server mode, there are server start and > server stop shortcuts on the VNC flyout on the start bar. > > v4b3 correctly sizes its viewer desktop to display both ports on my > matrox G550 dualhead as contiguous space. I am running both host > displays at 1024x768, and the viewer as a single 1024x768. > > - > Jerry Trowbridge > --at Flying Pig Ranch > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC 4.0 Beta 3
Mike Miller said: > On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, William Hooper wrote: > >> > Is there no information on the web that lists the differences? >> >> I doubt it. What's the point, there is no "competition" between them. > > It's not that they are competing to win a prize, but every user has to > make a choice. A web page designed to help users to choose would be of > value to many people. Go for it. As a matter of fact, http://faq.gotomyvnc.com might be a good place to post it. Then, in the future when this question is asked I'll link to it, then tell people to try out both and see what works for them. I'm not saying it won't be a good source of information, but no matter how you compare them, different people have different situations and different needs. Just like when shopping for an automobile, you read the reviews, but don't make up your mind until you have taken a couple of test drives. I don't think asking people to do their own testing is too much. The only thing they will have spent is their time. Now if they were asking about two proprietary programs that both cost money that would be a different story (but not much different). -- William Hooper ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: RealVNC v4b3 Comments, etc...
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:15:40 -0400, "Adam Pavelec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >+ "Options" and "Close VNC Server" are grayed out in the "notification >area icon" -- not sure if this an artifact from a prior install, but I >did remove both HKLM\Software\ORL and HKCU\Software\ORL branches before >installing v4b3. I get the same here, and also did an unstall of 3.x and fresh install of 4b3. When you're running in server mode, there are server start and server stop shortcuts on the VNC flyout on the start bar. v4b3 correctly sizes its viewer desktop to display both ports on my matrox G550 dualhead as contiguous space. I am running both host displays at 1024x768, and the viewer as a single 1024x768. - Jerry Trowbridge --at Flying Pig Ranch ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Revisit: Cadence and RealVNC Client
Dear All, I just read through the archives and noticed that several people in the last month had a similar query regarding "Cadence Slowness" Jeff Boerio remarked that he had worked with the developers about fixing the problems. 1. I would like to get a better idea about what exactly the problem is and so would appreciate some inputs on that. 2. When is the release set(if there is one) for the new client. Thanks for writing this very useful piece of software. Regards, /dev/null [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC 4.0 Beta 3
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, William Hooper wrote: > > Is there no information on the web that lists the differences? > > I doubt it. What's the point, there is no "competition" between them. It's not that they are competing to win a prize, but every user has to make a choice. A web page designed to help users to choose would be of value to many people. Mike ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC 4.0 Beta 3
Mike Miller said: > On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, William Hooper wrote: > >> Li, Charles said: >> > What is the difference between realvnc and tightvnc? >> > Which is better? >> >> What is the difference between blue and red? > > They are that different now? Just the first example to come to mind that didn't depend on the OP's culture. Maybe I should have used "light blue" and "dark blue". >> Sorry to make the point that way, but that is basically what you are >> asking. Try both TightVNC and RealVNC and use the one that fits best in >> your situation. > > Is there no information on the web that lists the differences? I doubt it. What's the point, there is no "competition" between them. Both web pages list their repective features, so I assumed the OP couldn't make a decision based on that. > Is the > only way to find out to use both? Yes. The are both Free and don't cost anything. The only way to know what works best *for your situation* is to try both. > On what should we base our decision? > > Mike Which works better *in your situation*? -- William Hooper ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC 4.0 Beta 3
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, William Hooper wrote: > Li, Charles said: > > What is the difference between realvnc and tightvnc? > > Which is better? > > What is the difference between blue and red? They are that different now? > Sorry to make the point that way, but that is basically what you are > asking. Try both TightVNC and RealVNC and use the one that fits best in > your situation. Is there no information on the web that lists the differences? Is the only way to find out to use both? On what should we base our decision? Mike ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC 4.0 Beta 3
Li, Charles said: > What is the difference between realvnc and tightvnc? > Which is better? What is the difference between blue and red? Which is better? Sorry to make the point that way, but that is basically what you are asking. Try both TightVNC and RealVNC and use the one that fits best in your situation. -- William Hooper ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC + multiple monitors
biscut said: >>I have the same problem, but I'd be very happy just seeing all my real > estate on the remote, with scroll bars to move around on it. >>NetOp handled it this way, but I dumped NetOp for VNC and I am so glad >>I did. > > So, basically does this mean that there is no way round this inconvenience > or is there someone that can help us ?? Which part of "A multi-monitor aware beta release of VNC will be available sometime this week." (Wez, July 28) didn't you get? It was announced today, BTW: http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2003-July/040247.html http://www.realvnc.com/v4 -- William Hooper ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: VNC Remote Viewing into LAN
msn said: > Thanks for William Hooper's reply of Friday July 5. > I have set up port routing on my D-Link 614+ router as: > Port1: Private Port = 5800, Public Port = 5800 > Port2: Private Port = 5900, Public Port = 5900 > Both into 192.168.0.100 which is where my VNC server sits. > I then used my dialed-in PC and Internet Explorer with the address > http://24.73.89.101:5900 and got message "page cannot be displayed" (also > tried :5800 with same result) http://24.73.89.101:5900 will never work, it is the RFB port. http://24.73.89.101:5800 should work, though. > Then used VNC Remote Viewer with address 24.73.89.101:0 and got message > "Failed to connect to server" On the 192.168.0.100 machine, go to http://www.gotomyvnc.com , verify the button does say "Run Check Now on '24.73.89.101'". Then hit the button and tell us the results. If it has a different address than 24.73.89.101, either your IP changed (and that is why you are getting connection refused), you have another firewall in the way, or something is still not right with your port forwarding on the D-Link. -- William Hooper ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RealVNC v4b3 Comments, etc...
Here are a few things I have noticed -- not sure if all qualify as bugs, but they are at least something to be concerned about... + Registry entries are no longer in HKLM\Software\ORL or HKCU\Software\ORL -- they are now located in HKLM\Software\RealVNC and HKCU\Software\RealVNC -- this will most likely create additional confusion. + "Options" and "Close VNC Server" are grayed out in the "notification area icon" -- not sure if this an artifact from a prior install, but I did remove both HKLM\Software\ORL and HKCU\Software\ORL branches before installing v4b3. -Adam ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
VNC Remote Viewing into LAN
Thanks for William Hooper's reply of Friday July 5. I have set up port routing on my D-Link 614+ router as: Port1: Private Port = 5800, Public Port = 5800 Port2: Private Port = 5900, Public Port = 5900 Both into 192.168.0.100 which is where my VNC server sits. I then used my dialed-in PC and Internet Explorer with the address http://24.73.89.101:5900 and got message "page cannot be displayed" (also tried :5800 with same result) Then used VNC Remote Viewer with address 24.73.89.101:0 and got message "Failed to connect to server" Any further advice? ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC 4.0 Beta 3
What is the difference between realvnc and tightvnc? Which is better? -Original Message- From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VNC 4.0 Beta 3 RealVNC is pleased to announce the first public beta release of VNC 4.0. VNC 4.0 is a complete redesign of the VNC system, but maintains backwards compatibility with the old VNC 3 releases. New features on all platforms: - Local cursor rendering - New Java viewer - Improved performance - Dynamic desktop resizing New Unix features: - Support for remoting the X11 console - Xvnc is now based on the XFree86 4 X server - Compatibility with a wider range of Unix platforms and features New Windows features: - Support for multiple monitors - New keyboard handling code - Simpler configuration system Binaries and source can be downloaded from the RealVNC website at http://www.realvnc.com/4.0b3-download.html Documentation and notes on this release can be found at http://www.realvnc.com/v4 Please direct bug reports for this release to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enjoy! The VNC Team ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
VNC 4.0 Beta 3
RealVNC is pleased to announce the first public beta release of VNC 4.0. VNC 4.0 is a complete redesign of the VNC system, but maintains backwards compatibility with the old VNC 3 releases. New features on all platforms: - Local cursor rendering - New Java viewer - Improved performance - Dynamic desktop resizing New Unix features: - Support for remoting the X11 console - Xvnc is now based on the XFree86 4 X server - Compatibility with a wider range of Unix platforms and features New Windows features: - Support for multiple monitors - New keyboard handling code - Simpler configuration system Binaries and source can be downloaded from the RealVNC website at http://www.realvnc.com/4.0b3-download.html Documentation and notes on this release can be found at http://www.realvnc.com/v4 Please direct bug reports for this release to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enjoy! The VNC Team ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC + multiple monitors
>I have the same problem, but I'd be very happy just seeing all my real estate on the remote, with scroll bars to move around on it. >NetOp handled it this way, but I dumped NetOp for VNC and I am so glad >I did. So, basically does this mean that there is no way round this inconvenience or is there someone that can help us ?? Thanks very much Regards Davidt ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: copy rectangle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:46:48 -0400, MCCLURE,PAUL (HP-FtCollins,ex1) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am a Reflection-X user converted recently to VNC. I'm running VNC viewer > on an XP machine. One thing I miss from Ref-X I is the "copy rectangle" > feature in the title bar. Is there a way in VNC viewer to copy a portion > of the display so that it can be saved to the clipboard? Thanks. You can use `iview' ( http://www.irfanview.com/ ) or similar programs to capture the VNC client window. You can then specify the rectangle and copy (or crop, or save or whatever) it by the iview. Ehud. - -- Ehud Karni Tel: +972-3-7966-561 /"\ Mivtach - Simon Fax: +972-3-7966-667 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Insurance agencies (USA) voice mail and X Against HTML Mail http://www.mvs.co.il FAX: 1-815-5509341 / \ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Better Safe Than Sorry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: use http://www.keyserver.net/ to get my key (and others) iD8DBQE/JWNBLFvTvpjqOY0RAjqzAJwJ7RZdwS4hH4h2e55Xtl9H//VY2gCdEVRL x71UWQ82sNyNFM9DwGLfzg4= =66J6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: copy rectangle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 28, 2003 12:46 pm, MCCLURE,PAUL (HP-FtCollins,ex1) wrote: > I am a Reflection-X user converted recently to VNC. I'm running VNC > viewer on an XP machine. One thing I miss from Ref-X I is the "copy > rectangle" feature in the title bar. Is there a way in VNC viewer to > copy a portion of the display so that it can be saved to the clipboard? > Thanks. I'm not aware of any viewer that has this feature, but there is a command-line app I wrote, vncsnapshot (vncsnapshot.sourceforge.net) that will take a snapshot of all or a part of the VNC server's screen and save it as a JPEG. Not as convenient as a UI tool, though. - -- Grant McDorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sr. Software Design Consultant Cedara Software Corp. http://www.cedara.com> (formerly I.S.G. Technologies Inc.) Mississauga, Ontario, Canada -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (SunOS) iD8DBQE/JV29LVa+EmyjizARAnt5AJ9nawuyz5yjlNi9nELd7EIWuJ1pgACeNb9q WHM3R60LhjX6dNpijqckCaM= =tYaf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
copy rectangle
I have recently converted from Reflection-X to VNC (running the viewer on an XP machine). So far I'm really impressed with VNC. One thing I miss from Ref-X I is the "copy rectangle" feature in the title bar. Is there a way in VNC viewer to copy a portion of the display so that it can be saved to the clipboard? Thanks. ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
copy rectangle
I am a Reflection-X user converted recently to VNC. I'm running VNC viewer on an XP machine. One thing I miss from Ref-X I is the "copy rectangle" feature in the title bar. Is there a way in VNC viewer to copy a portion of the display so that it can be saved to the clipboard? Thanks. ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
problem with viewing mac os 8.6 from a PC
I am having problems connecting to the Mac machines on my network from an NT4 machine. The Mac's are running anywhere from 8.6 to 9.2, and when I try and connect the interface just freezes up. I can connect just fine from the NT4 machine to other 2k machines, and I can connect just fine from Mac to Mac, it is just from PC to Mac that I have the issue. Any Ideas? Thanks in advance ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC + multiple monitors
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > My question is how? > > I use a large and small monitor. The small one is the main desktop > and the large one is graphical layout for databazse design. > > Will these appear as a single larger monitor under VNC or will it > support :0, :1 for these two displays (using Windows sorry). :0 = > smaller/main, :1 large graphical. The :1 and :2 approach is already used to address vnc-sessions to all but M$Windows vnc-servers and hence should not be used for multi-headed vnc-sessions. I do know the X11 way to address multiple monitors and hope vnc does the same/similar: The X11 display name has the next fields: "[[.]]:[[.]]". Hence, subsequent monitors can be addressed by remotemachine:0.1, :0.2 and such. On unix systems, the multi-headed workstations are addressed in both ways you say, depending on the used hardware. If a workstation is equipped with 2 (or more) video-cards then the video-cards are addressed with their own display name: ":0.0" and ":0.1" (and subsequent numbers). If a single video-card has multiple monitor connectors, then this can be configured as if 2 different video-cards (with 2 different subdisplay numbers) or as a single, large window. For vnc on M$Windows, I think the approach is similar. If the M$Windows system just sees a sinlge display adapter and spreads its windows over both displays, the vnc-session most likely provides a large (scrollable) window. I don't know details but I think this knid of multiple display is already supported by one or more of the vnc implementations. If the M$Windows machine sees multiple displays (and cannot spread a window over multiple displays but just on one or the other) then vnc most likely provides multile windows (maybe addressble with the subdisplaynumber). In the end, its just up to the imlementation. btw: I don't think there is much need for the (default) unix vnc server (Xvnc) to implement subdisplays and such. However, now I think of it, it can be nice if a kind of Xvnc process can be used to implement the sub-addressing: start it and get display :0.1 (and :0.2, :0.3 and such). > > jackb > > > On 28 Jul 2003 at 12:53, James Weatherall wrote: > > > Jerry, > > > > A multi-monitor aware beta release of VNC will be available sometime > > this week. I'll be particularly interested in feedback from users > > who: > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > ___ > > VNC-List mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To remove yourself from the list visit: > > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: still have the boot problem
On Monday, July 28, 2003 8:33 AM [GMT-5=EST], CIKALA Frederic NANTERRE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After having re-install VNC, i still have the following problem : > i can't log on a remote machine via VNC untill someone local log his > self on this PC. > > VNC is useless in this case. > On all the other machine (which are installed from the same ghost) i > do not have this problem. > I've compared all the configuration, but i did not notice some > differences.. can anyone help? I have found that after uninstalling VNC, it is very helpful to check the Windows Registry -- in particular, the following entries: HKLM\Software\ORL HKCU\Software\ORL Especially when trying different flavors of VNC, it is a good idea to make sure HKCU\Software\ORL is removed before installing VNC again. HTH... -Adam ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
still have the boot problem
After having re-install VNC, i still have the following problem : i can't log on a remote machine via VNC untill someone local log his self on this PC. VNC is useless in this case. On all the other machine (which are installed from the same ghost) i do not have this problem. I've compared all the configuration, but i did not notice some differences.. can anyone help? ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: VNC + multiple monitors
My question is how? I use a large and small monitor. The small one is the main desktop and the large one is graphical layout for databazse design. Will these appear as a single larger monitor under VNC or will it support :0, :1 for these two displays (using Windows sorry). :0 = smaller/main, :1 large graphical. jackb On 28 Jul 2003 at 12:53, James Weatherall wrote: > Jerry, > > A multi-monitor aware beta release of VNC will be available sometime > this week. I'll be particularly interested in feedback from users > who: > > Cheers, > > -- > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: VNC + multiple monitors
Jerry, A multi-monitor aware beta release of VNC will be available sometime this week. I'll be particularly interested in feedback from users who: Cheers, -- Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
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