Re: [VoiceOps] AT / Onvoy / Vonage call routing screwup after LNP

2016-12-05 Thread Andrew Paolucci
Sounds like a possible ENUM routing issue if it's bypassing the PSTN. Was 
Vonage notified of the port away by Onvoy?

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Andrew Paolucci


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 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] AT / Onvoy / Vonage call routing screwup after LNP
Local Time: 5 December 2016 9:16 AM
UTC Time: 5 December 2016 14:16
From: oren...@gmail.com
To: voiceops@voiceops.org <VoiceOps@voiceops.org>


Had similar experiences, but with different vendor.
I would try to open a ticket with ATT to fix their routing. I know, it won't be 
easy.
I would also try to speak with Vonage. I wouldn't have the customer disconnect 
before calls are flowing correctly.
If this doesn't work, and you wait another day or two with no results, I may 
try to port the numbers away from convoy.

Interested to know how you solved it...
Good luck.



On Dec 5, 2016 8:06 AM, "Nathan Anderson" <nath...@fsr.com> wrote:

So here's a weird one: we took over a small business account from Vonage. 
Vonage was using Onvoy for origination, and we elected to keep the TNs with 
Onvoy (through a wholesaler). So the "port" only consisted of Onvoy repointing 
traffic for those TNs internally away from Vonage and to our reseller, with no 
LRN change.

The weird bit is that we definitely are seeing some traffic for those numbers 
hitting us, but it's been nearly 72 hours now and some calls are still ringing 
their Vonage ATAs. I couldn't tell you definitively where the delineation is, 
but I can tell you, for example, that if I call any of the TNs from my AT 
cell, those calls still hit Vonage, so I can at least reproduce the problem 
at-will. This is for a local real-estate office, and AT is big in our 
relatively rural market, so even if it turns out that AT is the only provider 
that is affected, that is still a huge percentage of our end-user's client 
base. And the frustrating bit is that traffic is now effectively being 
"forked", which is a huge inconvenience for our end-user since they have an old 
key system with analog trunks and so we have to choose between having our IAD 
hooked up to their KSU or having their stack of Vonage ATAs hooked up. (For 
now, we have left the Vonage ATAs in place, and we are forwarding calls tha
t come to us to a single line from the ILEC that this office ended up keeping. 
I don't know what we would have done if they didn't have that line.)

Onvoy swears up and down that everything is configured correctly on their side, 
and given that we are at least getting *some* calls, I am inclined to believe 
them. When I give them call examples from my cell phone, they say that they 
don't even see those calls hitting their systems at all. At this point, the 
running theory is that AT must have some kind of direct peering with Vonage, 
and Onvoy isn't in the loop at all on those calls. If that's the case, then 
perhaps everything magically works itself out once I have the end-user call up 
Vonage and have them close out the account completely. But I'm not sure it is 
worth the risk of having them take that step with things as they are, on the 
off-chance that I guessed wrong (instead of the problem getting fixed, calls 
from AT start going to /dev/null).

Has anybody encountered anything like this before, or heard of national 
wireless carriers doing direct peering with national VoIP providers while 
completely bypassing PSTN switching infrastructure? Are there any AT, Onvoy, 
and/or Vonage reps reading this who can help un- this cluster?

Thanks,

--
Nathan Anderson
First Step Internet, LLC
nath...@fsr.com

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Re: [VoiceOps] Local Number Portability (LNP)

2016-11-08 Thread Andrew Paolucci
Hello Fellow Canuck!

1. I'm not 100% on the implementation of it, but I believe it's up to each 
Carrier to implement with each other and establish their own contracts for the 
routing of the voice traffic.
2. The Canadian Local Number Portability Consortium (CLNPC) is wholly owned by 
more than 60 local exchange and wireless carriers in Canada.
3. I believe there are some commerical solutions for announcing LNP database 
changes to database providers for routing lookups, Syniverse(the current 
provider I use for mobile number registrations for SMS routing) is the go to 
for mobile number lookup database entries.
4. CLNPC along with CNAC are the go to for number management in Canada. CNAC 
being operated by Ledios Canada, for CLNPC I am not familiar with the current 
management.

I'm currently on the road but I'll try to relay some more information when I'm 
back in the office.

Happy researching!

Regards,
Andrew Paolucci

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 Original Message 
On Nov 8, 2016, 11:03 AM, K MEKKAOUI wrote:



Hi







Can anyone help about LNP, I am specifically looking for answers to the 
following questions:



1- how it works?



2- which company is operating LNP in Canada?



3- is there a company that can help in developing a solution?



4- I assume there was a tender from CRTC at the time they decided to implement 
LNP in Canada (I think it was on 1998), do you know which company (or group of 
companies) owned the tender?







Your help will be appreciated.







Thank you







KARIM M.



MEKTEL



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