Re: [VoiceOps] Oracle (Acme Packet) help

2018-11-12 Thread Ryan Delgrosso 
I have personally deployed enum + acme in large capacity (300k+ 
individual numbers) for this explicit purpose.


It scales extraordinarily well and is very robust. Sip redirect is A way 
to go but now involves building another application layer. Enum allows 
for distributed caching, all while using mostly off-the-shelf software 
stacks (i suppose theres an argument to be made that kamailio/opensips 
are OTS software as well). FWIW my DNS stack of choice is usually 
PowerDNS for this purpose.


FWIW ENUM:SAG routing is quite good and the ability to actually 
reference internal session groups in the enum response, so you can push 
business logic outside of the SD without giving up the SD's 
intelligence. It can be very powerful.





On 11/12/2018 1:19 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:

I would really question the suggestion of ENUM. While it is supported,
it has fallen out of fashion, in favour of SIP redirects. I have heard
some anecdotes about Oracle's indifference to performance issues at high
volumes, and a general perception that ENUM is not held in high regard
as a priority.

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 09:17:37PM +, Matthew Crocker wrote:



Alex,

  Thanks, I actually have 2 projects, LRT will work for my 'call type' routing 
requirements (LD, EMER, TF, INT) should be easily handled with LRT.   I'll also 
need ENUM to handle my inbound with 20k-ish numbers being routed to a couple 
different switches.  I'm in the process of moving customers from one switch to 
another and updated DNS with the move makes sense.   Now I just need to get all 
the pieces flying in formation to work


On 11/12/18, 4:07 PM, "VoiceOps on behalf of Alex Balashov" 
 wrote:

 However, if you only have like < 10 rules, use something purely internal
 as Ryan suggests.
 
 On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 08:22:28PM +, Matthew Crocker wrote:

 >
 > Thanks everyone,  reading up on LRT now.   Going to read up on ENUM as well, 
certainly sounds easier to manage large datasets with.  Easier to upload a DNS server 
then gzip & upload a LRT XML file
 >
 > Thanks
 >
 > From: VoiceOps  on behalf of Ryan Delgrosso 

 > Date: Monday, November 12, 2018 at 3:07 PM
 > To: "voiceops@voiceops.org" 
 > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Oracle (Acme Packet) help
 >
 >
 > You can do this with local policy pretty easily.
 >
 > LRT is an option but I detest LRT. I would deploy enum before using LRT.
 >
 >
 >
 > On 11/12/2018 11:25 AM, Matthew Crocker wrote:
 >
 > Hello,
 >
 >
 >  Does anyone know if I can do some basic call routing on an Acme Session 
Director?   Basically I want to build a dialplan to route calls to various 
session-groups based on the SIP URI.  Example:  911@* goes to SAG:EMERGENCY,  
011*@* goes to SAG:INTERNATIONAL, +1*@* goes to SAG:LONGDISTANCE,  etc.
 >
 > I’m trying to avoid bouncing the calls through something like a Kamailo 
or freeswitch to process and 302 Moved the call back to the Acme.
 >
 > Thanks
 > -Matt
 >
 >
 >
 >
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Re: [VoiceOps] Oracle (Acme Packet) help

2018-11-12 Thread Jason Jessico 
LRT will do what you need.  E-mail me off list if you want to chat about
config examples.

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 2:26 PM Matthew Crocker 
wrote:

>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
>
>
>  Does anyone know if I can do some basic call routing on an Acme Session
> Director?   Basically I want to build a dialplan to route calls to various
> session-groups based on the SIP URI.  Example:  911@* goes to
> SAG:EMERGENCY,  011*@* goes to SAG:INTERNATIONAL, +1*@* goes to
> SAG:LONGDISTANCE,  etc.
>
>
>
> I’m trying to avoid bouncing the calls through something like a Kamailo or
> freeswitch to process and 302 Moved the call back to the Acme.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> -Matt
>
>
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[VoiceOps] Oracle (Acme Packet) help

2018-11-12 Thread Matthew Crocker 

Hello,


 Does anyone know if I can do some basic call routing on an Acme Session 
Director?   Basically I want to build a dialplan to route calls to various 
session-groups based on the SIP URI.  Example:  911@* goes to SAG:EMERGENCY,  
011*@* goes to SAG:INTERNATIONAL, +1*@* goes to SAG:LONGDISTANCE,  etc.

I’m trying to avoid bouncing the calls through something like a Kamailo or 
freeswitch to process and 302 Moved the call back to the Acme.

Thanks
-Matt

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Re: [VoiceOps] Oracle (Acme Packet) help

2018-11-12 Thread Alex Balashov 
Have you investigated the lightweight routing table (LRT) functionality
in the Acme?

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 07:25:49PM +, Matthew Crocker wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
>  Does anyone know if I can do some basic call routing on an Acme Session 
> Director?   Basically I want to build a dialplan to route calls to various 
> session-groups based on the SIP URI.  Example:  911@* goes to SAG:EMERGENCY,  
> 011*@* goes to SAG:INTERNATIONAL, +1*@* goes to SAG:LONGDISTANCE,  etc.
> 
> I’m trying to avoid bouncing the calls through something like a Kamailo or 
> freeswitch to process and 302 Moved the call back to the Acme.
> 
> Thanks
> -Matt
> 

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Re: [VoiceOps] Oracle (Acme Packet) help

2018-11-12 Thread Matthew Crocker 

Thanks everyone,  reading up on LRT now.   Going to read up on ENUM as well, 
certainly sounds easier to manage large datasets with.  Easier to upload a DNS 
server then gzip & upload a LRT XML file

Thanks

From: VoiceOps  on behalf of Ryan Delgrosso 

Date: Monday, November 12, 2018 at 3:07 PM
To: "voiceops@voiceops.org" 
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Oracle (Acme Packet) help


You can do this with local policy pretty easily.

LRT is an option but I detest LRT. I would deploy enum before using LRT.



On 11/12/2018 11:25 AM, Matthew Crocker wrote:

Hello,


 Does anyone know if I can do some basic call routing on an Acme Session 
Director?   Basically I want to build a dialplan to route calls to various 
session-groups based on the SIP URI.  Example:  911@* goes to SAG:EMERGENCY,  
011*@* goes to SAG:INTERNATIONAL, +1*@* goes to SAG:LONGDISTANCE,  etc.

I’m trying to avoid bouncing the calls through something like a Kamailo or 
freeswitch to process and 302 Moved the call back to the Acme.

Thanks
-Matt





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Re: [VoiceOps] Oracle (Acme Packet) help

2018-11-12 Thread Alex Balashov 
I would really question the suggestion of ENUM. While it is supported,
it has fallen out of fashion, in favour of SIP redirects. I have heard
some anecdotes about Oracle's indifference to performance issues at high
volumes, and a general perception that ENUM is not held in high regard
as a priority.

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 09:17:37PM +, Matthew Crocker wrote:

> 
> 
> Alex,
> 
>  Thanks, I actually have 2 projects, LRT will work for my 'call type' routing 
> requirements (LD, EMER, TF, INT) should be easily handled with LRT.   I'll 
> also need ENUM to handle my inbound with 20k-ish numbers being routed to a 
> couple different switches.  I'm in the process of moving customers from one 
> switch to another and updated DNS with the move makes sense.   Now I just 
> need to get all the pieces flying in formation to work
> 
> 
> On 11/12/18, 4:07 PM, "VoiceOps on behalf of Alex Balashov" 
>  wrote:
> 
> However, if you only have like < 10 rules, use something purely internal
> as Ryan suggests. 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 08:22:28PM +, Matthew Crocker wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks everyone,  reading up on LRT now.   Going to read up on ENUM as 
> well, certainly sounds easier to manage large datasets with.  Easier to 
> upload a DNS server then gzip & upload a LRT XML file
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > From: VoiceOps  on behalf of Ryan 
> Delgrosso 
> > Date: Monday, November 12, 2018 at 3:07 PM
> > To: "voiceops@voiceops.org" 
> > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Oracle (Acme Packet) help
> > 
> > 
> > You can do this with local policy pretty easily.
> > 
> > LRT is an option but I detest LRT. I would deploy enum before using LRT.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 11/12/2018 11:25 AM, Matthew Crocker wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > 
> >  Does anyone know if I can do some basic call routing on an Acme 
> Session Director?   Basically I want to build a dialplan to route calls to 
> various session-groups based on the SIP URI.  Example:  911@* goes to 
> SAG:EMERGENCY,  011*@* goes to SAG:INTERNATIONAL, +1*@* goes to 
> SAG:LONGDISTANCE,  etc.
> > 
> > I’m trying to avoid bouncing the calls through something like a Kamailo 
> or freeswitch to process and 302 Moved the call back to the Acme.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > -Matt
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [VoiceOps] Oracle (Acme Packet) help

2018-11-12 Thread Jason Jessico 
Oracle Session Delivery Manager may handle your more complicated use case
by providing a easier to deal with UI for pushing and refreshing LRTs to
multiple SBCs.  You could probably also roll your own equivalent of this
fairly easily depending on your requirements if an additional commercial
software purchase is out of the question.

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 4:19 PM Alex Balashov 
wrote:

> I would really question the suggestion of ENUM. While it is supported,
> it has fallen out of fashion, in favour of SIP redirects. I have heard
> some anecdotes about Oracle's indifference to performance issues at high
> volumes, and a general perception that ENUM is not held in high regard
> as a priority.
>
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 09:17:37PM +, Matthew Crocker wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Alex,
> >
> >  Thanks, I actually have 2 projects, LRT will work for my 'call type'
> routing requirements (LD, EMER, TF, INT) should be easily handled with
> LRT.   I'll also need ENUM to handle my inbound with 20k-ish numbers being
> routed to a couple different switches.  I'm in the process of moving
> customers from one switch to another and updated DNS with the move makes
> sense.   Now I just need to get all the pieces flying in formation to work
> >
> >
> > On 11/12/18, 4:07 PM, "VoiceOps on behalf of Alex Balashov" <
> voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org on behalf of abalas...@evaristesys.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > However, if you only have like < 10 rules, use something purely
> internal
> > as Ryan suggests.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 08:22:28PM +, Matthew Crocker wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks everyone,  reading up on LRT now.   Going to read up on
> ENUM as well, certainly sounds easier to manage large datasets with.
> Easier to upload a DNS server then gzip & upload a LRT XML file
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > From: VoiceOps  on behalf of Ryan
> Delgrosso 
> > > Date: Monday, November 12, 2018 at 3:07 PM
> > > To: "voiceops@voiceops.org" 
> > > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Oracle (Acme Packet) help
> > >
> > >
> > > You can do this with local policy pretty easily.
> > >
> > > LRT is an option but I detest LRT. I would deploy enum before
> using LRT.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/12/2018 11:25 AM, Matthew Crocker wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > >
> > >  Does anyone know if I can do some basic call routing on an Acme
> Session Director?   Basically I want to build a dialplan to route calls to
> various session-groups based on the SIP URI.  Example:  911@* goes to
> SAG:EMERGENCY,  011*@* goes to SAG:INTERNATIONAL, +1*@* goes to
> SAG:LONGDISTANCE,  etc.
> > >
> > > I’m trying to avoid bouncing the calls through something like a
> Kamailo or freeswitch to process and 302 Moved the call back to the Acme.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > -Matt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [VoiceOps] Oracle (Acme Packet) help

2018-11-12 Thread Ryan Delgrosso 

You can do this with local policy pretty easily.

LRT is an option but I detest LRT. I would deploy enum before using LRT.



On 11/12/2018 11:25 AM, Matthew Crocker wrote:


Hello,

 Does anyone know if I can do some basic call routing on an Acme 
Session Director?   Basically I want to build a dialplan to route 
calls to various session-groups based on the SIP URI. Example:  911@* 
goes to SAG:EMERGENCY,  011*@* goes to SAG:INTERNATIONAL, +1*@* goes 
to SAG:LONGDISTANCE,  etc.


I’m trying to avoid bouncing the calls through something like a 
Kamailo or freeswitch to process and 302 Moved the call back to the Acme.


Thanks

-Matt



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Re: [VoiceOps] Oracle (Acme Packet) help

2018-11-12 Thread Alex Balashov 
However, if you only have like < 10 rules, use something purely internal
as Ryan suggests. 

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 08:22:28PM +, Matthew Crocker wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone,  reading up on LRT now.   Going to read up on ENUM as well, 
> certainly sounds easier to manage large datasets with.  Easier to upload a 
> DNS server then gzip & upload a LRT XML file
> 
> Thanks
> 
> From: VoiceOps  on behalf of Ryan Delgrosso 
> 
> Date: Monday, November 12, 2018 at 3:07 PM
> To: "voiceops@voiceops.org" 
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Oracle (Acme Packet) help
> 
> 
> You can do this with local policy pretty easily.
> 
> LRT is an option but I detest LRT. I would deploy enum before using LRT.
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/12/2018 11:25 AM, Matthew Crocker wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
>  Does anyone know if I can do some basic call routing on an Acme Session 
> Director?   Basically I want to build a dialplan to route calls to various 
> session-groups based on the SIP URI.  Example:  911@* goes to SAG:EMERGENCY,  
> 011*@* goes to SAG:INTERNATIONAL, +1*@* goes to SAG:LONGDISTANCE,  etc.
> 
> I’m trying to avoid bouncing the calls through something like a Kamailo or 
> freeswitch to process and 302 Moved the call back to the Acme.
> 
> Thanks
> -Matt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [VoiceOps] Oracle (Acme Packet) help

2018-11-12 Thread Matthew Crocker 


Alex,

 Thanks, I actually have 2 projects, LRT will work for my 'call type' routing 
requirements (LD, EMER, TF, INT) should be easily handled with LRT.   I'll also 
need ENUM to handle my inbound with 20k-ish numbers being routed to a couple 
different switches.  I'm in the process of moving customers from one switch to 
another and updated DNS with the move makes sense.   Now I just need to get all 
the pieces flying in formation to work


On 11/12/18, 4:07 PM, "VoiceOps on behalf of Alex Balashov" 
 wrote:

However, if you only have like < 10 rules, use something purely internal
as Ryan suggests. 

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 08:22:28PM +, Matthew Crocker wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone,  reading up on LRT now.   Going to read up on ENUM as 
well, certainly sounds easier to manage large datasets with.  Easier to upload 
a DNS server then gzip & upload a LRT XML file
> 
> Thanks
> 
> From: VoiceOps  on behalf of Ryan 
Delgrosso 
> Date: Monday, November 12, 2018 at 3:07 PM
> To: "voiceops@voiceops.org" 
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Oracle (Acme Packet) help
> 
> 
> You can do this with local policy pretty easily.
> 
> LRT is an option but I detest LRT. I would deploy enum before using LRT.
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/12/2018 11:25 AM, Matthew Crocker wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
>  Does anyone know if I can do some basic call routing on an Acme Session 
Director?   Basically I want to build a dialplan to route calls to various 
session-groups based on the SIP URI.  Example:  911@* goes to SAG:EMERGENCY,  
011*@* goes to SAG:INTERNATIONAL, +1*@* goes to SAG:LONGDISTANCE,  etc.
> 
> I’m trying to avoid bouncing the calls through something like a Kamailo 
or freeswitch to process and 302 Moved the call back to the Acme.
> 
> Thanks
> -Matt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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