Re: [volt-nuts] solartron 7081 rom reading q

2013-01-13 Thread J. L. Trantham
MK,

I am not aware of a way to read the EPROM's without removing them.  Dave
Partridge has done a lot of work on these along with Mickle, both on the
list.

Dave Partridge's EPROM images are on Didier's site.  I have read the EPROM's
from two of these units, of two different vintages IIRC, and can send them
to you if you need them.  I used the images from one to upgrade the other to
the latest version that I/we know of.

I know that there is an undocumented command for the HP 3458A that allows
you to read the memory but I don't know if the same sort of 'global' access
exists on the 7081.

Joe

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Hi,

Finally able to talk to the meter through RS232.
Is there any way to dump the rom contents using the RS232? or do the chips
have to be put in a reader to get the values out?

MK

  
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Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

2013-01-13 Thread Bill Ezell
Going from memory, no, you have to pull the roms and read them. At 
least, that's what a few of us in the group have done.

You can access ram and nvram, though.

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Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

2013-01-13 Thread David C. Partridge
Actually, I believe that the MONITOR command will allow you look at storage 
anywhere within the address space of either of the processors, see pages 8.1 
through 8.5 of the service manual. So it should be possible to READ the ROMs 
this way if both processors are working and communicating.

However it would be pretty slow, and as all the ROMs are socketed, it's not a 
big deal to just remove them and read them in a programmer. 

Note that I haven't tried this.

Regards,
David Partridge
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Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

Going from memory, no, you have to pull the roms and read them. At least, 
that's what a few of us in the group have done.
You can access ram and nvram, though.

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Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

2013-01-13 Thread m k

Hi David,

well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell. But 
I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last 
calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now.

I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on when 
not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing else to 
confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out through the rs232.

I will have to buy something to read them with.

M K 

 From: david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk
 To: volt-nuts@febo.com
 Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:36:52 +
 Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading
 
 Actually, I believe that the MONITOR command will allow you look at storage 
 anywhere within the address space of either of the processors, see pages 8.1 
 through 8.5 of the service manual. So it should be possible to READ the ROMs 
 this way if both processors are working and communicating.
 
 However it would be pretty slow, and as all the ROMs are socketed, it's not a 
 big deal to just remove them and read them in a programmer. 
 
 Note that I haven't tried this.
 
 Regards,
 David Partridge
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 To: volt-nuts@febo.com
 Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading
 
 Going from memory, no, you have to pull the roms and read them. At least, 
 that's what a few of us in the group have done.
 You can access ram and nvram, though.
 
 --
 Bill Ezell
 --
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 so I used Linux.
 
 
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Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

2013-01-13 Thread David C. Partridge
If all you want is to save the calibration factors, just issue CALIBRATE,DUMP 
command

To refresh the EAROM calibration factors, issue CALIBRATE,REFRESH - barring 
component failure that should be good for another ten years or so.  You can 
also display the NVM contents with the MONITOR command, but NOT re-write them.

The only way that I am aware of that will write the caibration constants if 
they have been lost is to run a full calibration.

Again all this in chapter 8.

I don't know which ROM programmers that can read or write the ER3400 (just 
ignorance - there may be loads).


Regards,
David Partridge
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Hi David,

well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell. But 
I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last 
calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now.

I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on when 
not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing else to 
confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out through the rs232.

I will have to buy something to read them with.

M K 


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