Re: [volt-nuts] 3458A drift checking question

2018-01-10 Thread acbern
the manual defines a 4 hours warmup time. after tat the meter is supposed to be 
within spec. 
then the note 18 test can be started (ACAL and reading the cal constant).
then it should be left on for a couple of days before a new acal is done, 
ideally as long as the note 18 specifies (7days iirc) , however if you see 
there is no drift (against a known good 732A e.g.), then it might be shortened. 
my experience is, if an AD board has a drift issue, it drifts quite a bid in 
short time in most of the cases, have seen 10+ ppm a day.
also, note 18 covers two drift issues, AD and REF board related drift. do not 
confuse.




> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018 um 12:34 Uhr
> Von: "David C. Partridge" 
> An: "'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'" 
> Betreff: [volt-nuts] 3458A drift checking question
>
> How long does the meter need to have been powered on before it makes any
> sense to perform the Service Note 18 drift test?
> 
> Thanks
> Dave
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Re: [volt-nuts] 3458A drift checking question

2018-01-10 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message <000301d38a06$f6971650$e3c542f0$@perdrix.co.uk>, "David C. Partridge
" writes:

>How long does the meter need to have been powered on before it makes any
>sense to perform the Service Note 18 drift test?

I generally turn my meter on in the evening if I need it to be precise
next day.

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Re: [volt-nuts] 3458A drift checking question

2018-01-10 Thread Illya Tsemenko

Few days usually enough.

10/01/18 19:34, David C. Partridge пишет:

How long does the meter need to have been powered on before it makes any
sense to perform the Service Note 18 drift test?

Thanks
Dave

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[volt-nuts] 3458A drift checking question

2018-01-10 Thread David C. Partridge
How long does the meter need to have been powered on before it makes any
sense to perform the Service Note 18 drift test?

Thanks
Dave

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Re: [volt-nuts] 3458A question

2018-01-10 Thread David C. Partridge
Correction to -0.00060mV to -0.00070mV

Dave

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Subject: [volt-nuts] 3458A question

After running an ACAL 0 with a four wire short in place I get a DCV reading 
starting at about  -0.5 mV to increasing to about 0.00060 to 0.00070 mV 
over a minute or so at which point it seems to stabilise.

Is this "normal" and if not what could be wrong (AZERO is turned on).

Dave

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Re: [volt-nuts] 3458A question

2018-01-10 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message <003801d389fb$bbba1f10$332e5d30$@perdrix.co.uk>, "David C. Partridge
" writes:

>After running an ACAL 0 with a four wire short in place I get a DCV reading
>starting at about  -0.5 mV to increasing to about 0.00060 to 0.00070 mV
>over a minute or so at which point it seems to stabilise.

That is pretty normal, it's very hard to control temperatures so precisely
that you don't get a few hundred nanovolts of seebeck voltage.

If you touch the short with your finger, you will change the temperature
enough that it registers clearly.

I mount the short, then hang a piece of cloth over the terminals and wait
about 15-30 minutes before I run ACAL 0



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[volt-nuts] 3458A question

2018-01-10 Thread David C. Partridge
After running an ACAL 0 with a four wire short in place I get a DCV reading
starting at about  -0.5 mV to increasing to about 0.00060 to 0.00070 mV
over a minute or so at which point it seems to stabilise.

Is this "normal" and if not what could be wrong (AZERO is turned on).

Dave

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