Re: [volt-nuts] 7061 On Board Clock and Battery

2012-06-26 Thread Fabio Eboli

I didn't have the time to study my 7061 enough.
I just gave an eye to the pcb's:

The earthy logic has this sticker:
PCB 70610513A
main firmware memories are D27C256D-15 the revision is AB

floating logic pcb is 70610515X B
SP1 selects 2716 memories
SP2 selects 2732/64 memories
on the pcb there is also an hand written sticker : ST/255/34 A0011

The memories on floating board are 4 M5L2764 k-2 with FW revision CA
As I understand these memories don't contain executable
code but data bit patterns used to command various signals needed
for the measurements setup.

The SP1/SP2 selects the address line A11 on the memories for +5V
or Ground, so one of the two has to be shorted.
It's strange that mine are both disconnected, it isnt ok leaving
the address line disconnected. When I have time I must indagate better.

Fabio.

J. L. Trantham jlt...@att.net ha scritto:


OK!

Now I understand.  On my unit, SP1 is soldered 'closed'.  SP2 is 'open'.

As I said earlier, I have the 'AA' version of the Floating firmware with
TMS2516-45JL chips that have 24 pins.  They are on the PCB 70610505Y F board
which I interpret to be the 'Revision F' board.  There is room for a 28 pin
socket.  I wonder if it would be possible to modify my board for the 28 pin
EPROM's?

I would be interested in knowing what board the 2764 chips are on.

Thanks.

Joe

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Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] 7061 On Board Clock and Battery


I don't understand 'SP1 and SP2 on floating board are both open circuit'.
To what does this refer?


In this photo...


... the photo :)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/14336723@N08/7443455140/

Fabio.


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Re: [volt-nuts] 7061 On Board Clock and Battery

2012-06-25 Thread J. L. Trantham
Fabio,

I uploaded the EPROM contents from my meter to Didier's site as well.  The
Floating board I have has 'AA' version firmware while yours is 'CA'.  Mine
uses TMS2516 chips that are 24 pin and I think yours are 2764 28 pin chips.

I'll investigate the statistics function after I make sure it is 'in range'
as far as the calibration goes.

I don't understand 'SP1 and SP2 on floating board are both open circuit'.
To what does this refer?

Thanks.

Joe

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Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 10:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] 7061 On Board Clock and Battery

Interesting, these roms are mine's:
http://www.ko4bb.com/Manuals/04)_ROM_Images_and_Drivers/Solartron_7061_ROMs.
zip

I have also a problem with statistics,
seem that the standard deviation calculation is
wrong:
http://www.febo.com/pipermail/volt-nuts/2012-April/001793.html
If you have time to test yours for this I would be grateful.

Another thing is that on mine SP1 and SP2 on floating board are both
open circuit.

Fabio.

J. L. Trantham jlt...@att.net ha scritto:

 Fabio,

 Thanks for the link to the pictures.  I never seem to remember eevblog
when
 it comes to looking for stuff.

 Your pictures show that your Earthy board is completely different from
mine
 in the area of 'B101'.  You have no place for B101.  Also, your Floating
 board is different in that you have the 'CA' firmware and 28 pin EPROM's.
I
 wonder if anyone has modified my 'version' of the Floating board to use 28
 pin EPROM's and if there would be any utility to doing this.

 I did not get a message directly from you (that I recognized at least).
 I'll try to send you one directly to make sure we can 'establish
 communications'.

 Joe

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 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 5:14 AM
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 Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] 7061 On Board Clock and Battery


 Here are some pics of the mine, only one battery:

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/product-reviews-photos-and-discussion/solartron
 -7061-help-and-come-photos/msg93650/#msg93650

 As for the manual I did try to contact you directly,
 did you read the message?

 Fabio.

 J. L. Trantham jlt...@att.net ha scritto:

 My 7061 has a single battery installed, B501, a 3.6 V Ni-MH
 Rechargeable 3 pin battery.  My 7081 has two batteries installed, the
 same 3.6 V Ni-MH Rechargeable battery and a ½ AA Lithium Battery that
 serves as the onboard clock backup battery.  It is connected with its
 negative pin to a 47K resistor to ground and its positive pin to a
 diode that feeds a connection that is also fed by another diode from
 the main power supply.  The common connection of these diodes feed the
 clock chip.



 On my 7061 there is a location, B101 that appears to be for the same
 type ½ AA Lithium Battery.  The + pin connects to a diode, in a manner
 similar to that described above, and the – pin connects to a ‘space’
 for a resistor, R117, with the other end of the resistor going to
 ground.  Both the battery, B101, and the resistor, R117, are missing.



 My questions are:



 1.   Does anyone have a 7061 with this battery and resistor installed?
 2.   If so, what is the value of the resistor, R117, and what type is the
 battery?



 It seems that this would be an easy addition to get a live clock
 without the need to restart the clock each time the meter is turned
 on.  Or, perhaps there is a reason why this in not a good idea.



 Thanks in advance.



 Joe

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[volt-nuts] 7061 On Board Clock and Battery

2012-06-24 Thread J. L. Trantham
My 7061 has a single battery installed, B501, a 3.6 V Ni-MH Rechargeable 3
pin battery.  My 7081 has two batteries installed, the same 3.6 V Ni-MH
Rechargeable battery and a ½ AA Lithium Battery that serves as the onboard
clock backup battery.  It is connected with its negative pin to a 47K
resistor to ground and its positive pin to a diode that feeds a connection
that is also fed by another diode from the main power supply.  The common
connection of these diodes feed the clock chip.

 

On my 7061 there is a location, B101 that appears to be for the same type ½
AA Lithium Battery.  The + pin connects to a diode, in a manner similar to
that described above, and the – pin connects to a ‘space’ for a resistor,
R117, with the other end of the resistor going to ground.  Both the battery,
B101, and the resistor, R117, are missing.

 

My questions are:

 

1.  Does anyone have a 7061 with this battery and resistor installed?
2.  If so, what is the value of the resistor, R117, and what type is the
battery?

 

It seems that this would be an easy addition to get a live clock without the
need to restart the clock each time the meter is turned on.  Or, perhaps
there is a reason why this in not a good idea.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Joe

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