The Baron posted

2005-11-04 Thread thomas malloy

The Baron posted

Garrison Keeler claims that the garden of Eden and the Adam and Eve of the
bible occurred near California and not in the Middle East and they were not
related to apes and have no ape genes in them since they were genetically
engineered by star visitors.  The wife that Adam had before Eve called Lilith
allegedly came from the Amazon region near Mexico.  Some of the bible 
clans then

relocated to Minnesota to become the Norse tribes

Keelor is a comic, who has made a good living by pretending to be a 
laid back guy from a small town, which just proves that he is one 
hell of an actor. OTOH, I don't suppose that the idea that the star 
visitors engineered us is any wackier than life just happened.


He also posted.

More on J. Searl's devices and other topics are contained in articles at The
Institute for New Energy website:

I'm going to criticize Pat for posting a noncritical evaluation of 
Searl's technology. Searl claims to have built a free energy 
machine, which levitates, and will cure any disease known to man. I'm 
prepared to take back all times I've called him a fraud and a 
charlatan just as soon as I see one of his machines do any one of the 
above.



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Re: ISS

2005-11-04 Thread Wesley Bruce

Robin van Spaandonk wrote:


In reply to  Wesley Bruce's message of Thu, 03 Nov 2005 15:09:42
+1100:
Hi,
[snip]
 

Firstly the ISS is the dry dock not the ship. It is actually doing quite 
a lot of quiet science; learning to live in space *was* the original 
objective.
The ISS would not survive a trip to Mars. It would not survive the 
required acceleration, 
   



I think that if you put the modules in line, rather than in their
current configuration, it wouldn't have any problem with the
acceleration. However I'm more curious about how long the trip
would take using a nuclear reactor and an ion engine at low
acceleration as opposed to the high acceleration chemical thruster
you appear to be considering.
 

About the same. The time frame is not acceleration limited. Its limited 
by orbital windows. Some have proposed making a cycler using ISS 
modules. The minimum fuel option is a cycler. A cycler is a craft that 
orbits the sun in such a way that it takes a crew to Mars in three 
months and then swings around the sun unmanned to pick up a new crew. A 
second cycler going in the opposite direction would take three months to 
drop someone home from mars and then spend a year going around the sun.


Ion engines are too slow for manned flight we want to go faster than 
three months for manned missions. That gives us three options. Avoiding 
solar flares, we have more than three months warning but less than six I 
believe. Some say we have more than a year but we've only looked at a 
years data from the new sats in close to the sun. Ion engines are OK for 
dead cargoes but solar sails can match ion engines and plasma sails beat 
them. The best sail design is at: 
http://www.ess.washington.edu/Space/propulsion.html
2nPa is good thrust, better than Ion and you are not burning fuel. Also 
you can combine robotic craft with manned craft in a way they 
accumulates momentum in six unmanned craft. And then bounce them off the 
manned crafts fields. This takes a months acceleration from the solar 
wind and packs it into a few minutes of field interaction. This is my 
reusable reaction mass drive. Not yet published.


If you could run a drive at one g continously Mars is 3 to 5 _days_ away 
but you'd need a hell of a bumper bar.
Nuclear salt water rocket 0.1 g ~ 3 -5 weeks,  a good plasma drive 0.01 
g ~4 to 7 weeks, The best sail 0.005 ~6 to 9 weeks.

Reactionless drives rule. Too bad about newtons laws. ;-)

 

and it would not carry enough supplys to make the 
round trip of three to five years. 
   



It need not be the whole ship.

 

About 30% of its mass would not be 
required on a trip to Mars but can't be removed. 
   



What mass would that be, and why can't it be removed?
 

Lab racks with power and cooling. Their not much use on mars because 
there systems are optimized for zero g.

On mars you want your lab on the ground or better still in the rover.

 

I'm in the Australian 
Mars society and the National space society NSS. We're doing the design 
work that Nasa keeps claiming the credit for.
   




Excellent, then you should be able to answer all my questions! :)
 


Dou now I'm in trouble.

 

Space exploration would be simpler if we had the heavy lift craft the 
National Space Society NSS has been talking about for years and Nasa has 
just announced it now will slowly design and build the thing./ /That's 
called reinventing the wheel; given that volunteers in the NSS did a 
full design a decade a go. The heavy lift ship could lift the remaining 
ISS components in two shots. It can lift ~100 tons. We could do one lift 
if all the bits fitted in one bundle but they don't. *Dou!*
   



What's the lifting capacity of the Russian's largest rocket?
[snip]
 


  * An Orbiting network of data relay sats and navigation beacons.
Mars Net. It's been designed awaiting funds. This means that a
   



How many satellites are already in Mars orbit, and is there any
reason they can't talk to one another, and thus be used as relay
satellites? I know there is at least one, if you count the trip
vessel as a second, then you need only one other small satellite
to form a triangle, and that could be taken along on the trip.
 

There's at least three and one on the way but there are 
incompatibilities and other problems in the current constellation. Mars 
Net is store and forward email, much bigger data streams and the sats 
can talk to each other in the same language so you can send 'live' 
video. Also their clocks are optimized for limited gps type navigation. 
You need  6 to 18 sats for a minimal navigational system, I believe. The 
system we have uses many more sats but we do not need to more than half 
a mile accuracy on mars. We don't have streets to find and buildings to 
bomb over there yet.




 


crew or robot on Mars can call earth at any time from anywhere on
Mars and no-one can get lost. It also means a team on Mars can
teleoperate a robot anywhere on the planet in real time at any

Re: A low cost alternative to the space elevator

2005-11-04 Thread thomas malloy

Mark Goldes posted

MPI has been supporting How Wachspress, an inventor who holds a 
Patent and has done many experiments that suggest a free-flying 
magnetic levitator can become practical, and provide a better path 
to access to space.


The concept of an electrically powered levitation system is very 
interesting. The proposed Space Elevator is neither fast or cheap. 
Now all we have to do is come up with a low weight electrical supply 
system.


I just had an email exchange with Kiril Chukanov. He didn't hold out 
the hope of any help on the home heating system that I'd like to 
build however.


A levitator can be designed to take off and land at ordinary 
airports, using the geomagnetic field as the stator of a very clever 
electric motor.   The geomagnetic field can be used for braking, 
eliminating the need for heat shields.




I have to admit that the proposed system would be great if it worked. 
One of the local TV stations just did a story on the people who live 
under the approach to the new runway at our airport.


We anticipate that electricity for the propulsion system will be 
supplied by our Magnetic Power Modules.


As I mentioned above Mark, I'm looking for a home heating unit.


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energy medicine and the bird flu

2005-11-04 Thread thomas malloy
One of my friends just sent me this.  Parksie enjoys attacking energy 
medicine, well take this.


In the 1918-19 flu epidemic, of the people who  sought out
conventional medical
treatment, their mortality rate was over 40  percent.  Of the people
who did
nothing, did not seek out any treatment,  their mortality rate was
about 15
percent.  The people who sought out  homeopathic care for their flu
had a
mortality rate of less than 1  percent.  The above statistics are
from pages 103-111
in the scholarly  work, ˜The Homeopathic Treatment of Influenza,
Surviving
Influenza Epidemics and  Pandemics Past, Present and Future with
Homeopathy by
Sandra Perko, PhD, CCN,  copyright 1999, Benchmark Homeopathic
Publications.


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Re: O. T. The Power of Hearing

2005-11-04 Thread Frederick Sparber



Here is a starter, Richard.

A. J. Hudspeth is/was associated with the University of Texas.

I've read quite a bit of his work.

Hudspeth County in West Texas indicates his Texas roots.

I'll stick by that 10e-21 watts per square centimeter electrical
response even though the acousticthreshold forthe outer ear
bottoms out at 10e-17 watts per square centimeter.

Note the "telepathic" ability of a dog to foretell of an impending 
epileptic attack. It seems that they can sense brain wave patterns
as well as chemical cues.

But they don't speak English yet.

Have we lost this ability through the ages of "progress"?

Taos NM was pretty quiet until about 1990. :-)

Fred

http://physicsweb.org/articles/world/15/5/8

"Ahair bundle is an appendage measuring a few microns across that sticks up above the surface of every hair cell. It is composed of a bundle of columnar "stereocilia", which slope up against one another. The tip of each hair is connected to the next by a fine filament called a "tip link" (see figure 3). Shear flow in the cochlear fluid causes the whole bundle to deflect, with each stereocilium pivoting at its base so that the tip links get stretched. Each tip link connects directly to a tension-gated "transduction channel" in the cell membrane of the stereocilium, which admits potassium ions. So the deflection leads to a change in the ionic current that, in turn, alters the cell potential. 
"This very direct mechanism for converting motion into electrical signals was established by numerous researchers in the 1980s and 1990s. Jim Hudspeth, now at Rockefeller University, and David Corey of Harvard University made particularly important contributions by developing methods to manipulate frog hair bundles with microneedles and measure the transduction current."



Re: energy medicine and the bird flu

2005-11-04 Thread Jed Rothwell

thomas malloy wrote:

In the 1918-19 flu epidemic, of the people who  sought out conventional 
medical

treatment, their mortality rate was over 40  percent.  Of the people who did
nothing, did not seek out any treatment,  their mortality rate was about 
15 percent.


Beware of unexamined statistics. First of all, I doubt that the mortality 
rate was 40% anywhere in the U.S., except in isolated Inuit villages. 40% 
would rival the black plague, the worst disease in European or American 
history.


Second, people who seek out medical treatment are usually very sick. People 
who were only mildly ill stay home. When there is no effective cure for a 
disease, the seriously sick patients are likely to die even though they go 
to a hospital.



The people who sought out  homeopathic care for their flu had a mortality 
rate of less than 1 percent.


So did most people who sought out no cure whatever, especially if they were 
middle-aged or black and living in the East Coast. Overall the mortality 
rate was 2.5%, but that included many groups that were particularly 
vulnerable, such as vigorous, healthy young soldiers gathered together in 
camps or on troopships. The 1918 strain was particularly dangerous for 
healthy young people, just the opposite of most influenza types.


- Jed




Re: A low cost alternative to the space elevator

2005-11-04 Thread Jed Rothwell


Mark Goldes wrote:
MPI has been supporting How
Wachspress, an inventor who holds a Patent and has done many experiments
that suggest a free-flying magnetic levitator can become practical, and
provide a better path to access to space.
A levitator can be designed to take off and land at ordinary airports,
using the geomagnetic field as the stator of a very clever electric
motor.
The geomagnetic field? 0.6 gauss at the maximum? That's preposterous. As
Clarke wrote in Profiles of the Future:
The Earth's magnetic field is so extremely feeble (a toy magnet is
thousands of times stronger) that it is not even worth considering. From
time to time one hears optimistic talk of 'magnetic propulsion' for space
vehicles, but this is a project somewhat comparable to escaping from
Earth via a ladder made of cobwebs. Terrestrial magnetic forces
are just about as tough as gossamer.
You would have to have a ship that reacted against the field with a plate
of hundreds of square kilometers, and the plate would have to weigh a few
kilograms.
- Jed




Zone refining for Reprocessing

2005-11-04 Thread Jones Beene



This is a continuation of the previous thread 
regarding the prospect for an advanced, small, modular, safe and affordable 
nuclear reactor (rail mounted). My apology for another long post as I am aware 
that this subject is of limited interest to most readers - and that more than a 
few are ingrained anti-nuclear anyway. That is understandable. We have almost 
"blown it" for the past forty years.

It is a hybrid design which goes way beyond current 
thinking. It works ONLY whenALL the pieces of the puzzle are put together 
ina unit, as some of them individually do not look optimum.By my 
reckoningthe current crop of so-called "advanced designs" are deficient in 
too many ways to mention - andare overly influenced by the entrenched and 
powerful special interests of the GE, Westinghouse,  the DoE "club." They 
are the problem, not the solution.

A key detail in how one can achieve nearly complete 
fuel burnup, starting with only natural Uranium, is in the absolute requirement 
for an ongoing (partial) reprocessing system which is built into the reactor 
itself.

This idea is not novel, but has been written-off 
for years, under the phony pretext of "non-proliferation" or mostlybecause 
partial reprocessing via the well-known technique of *Zone Refining,* (which is 
only "easy" technique) - thisprocess only gets rid of the lighter fission 
ash and not the heavier poisons. Neither the military, nor the fuel suppliers 
like it, and it has been therefore "marginalized" by special 
interests.

When fission occurs, there are at least two 
molecules of "ash" which often are huge "neutron poisons" (high cross-section 
for thermal neutrons) and this inevitably dictates almost all of the subsequent 
design choices, and of course this usually eliminates natural Uranium as the 
choice fuel, despite its 10,000 to one net cost advantage (net meaning to 
society as a whole).

If it were not for these fission poisons 
accumulating, then we would never need to refuel the reactor, nor to store/bury 
old nuclear fuel - we could just burn it all, while fuel cost would be 
negligible, and most of the power for the USA would be nuclear already. The 
kicker is "heavy water"... but that is also becomes the beauty of the overall 
system. (more on that in a subsequent post). This being a forum where anything 
to do with deuterium is of interest, then even applying it to "hot fusion" 
should have some backing - not to mention that the very reason why it works so 
well (in part) - neutron stripping - is or can be related to ongoing 
electrolytic research.

In a later post, I am going to frame-up some basic 
speculation on the "next-step" in the evolution towardsa 
more"active" heavy water moderating core, which uses 7-lithium and other 
LENR techniques to enhance neutron production..

IOW what I am saying is that the early choices, in 
the USA,to use enriched fuel and zero reprocessing and zero burnup of 
accumulated wastes - these terrible but understandable choices - have 
nowalmost doomed to the industry. In a perfect world, we should be getting 
almost all of our power from nuclear. It is the most ecological choice - done 
correctly. It is a terrible choice, done incorrectly. We are stuck in between 
and falling toward the incorrect extreme.

Thispast non-choice (regarding the 
possibility of partial reprocessing by zone refining) was due to the fact that 
historically,it was ofnegativeinterest to the military 
industrial complex. This isbecause they wanted to also segregate-out the 
fissile material, and also to get rid of the transuranics at the same time - 
which are no-good for bombs... and/oras for the companies like GE - this 
prohibits them form maximizing profits. Zone refining is contra-indicated for 
both poles of special interest, and was never pursued as actively as it should. 
The so-called neutron "poisons" are found on both sides of the density spectrum 
- and zone refining generally only allows removal of the low-density 
variety.

Had civilian power-producers been involved from the 
start they would have said - "WAIT" that is what I need - get your hand off my 
valuable so-called "spent fuel" (only 5% is actually "spent") and give me back 
this very valuable resource, and let me reprocess it for further use using zone 
refining -after all, I don't give a rat's-ass about transuranics. We will 
just burn them too."

This scenario never happened, and only a handful of 
reactor designers today even realize that if you provide an
1) unpressurized reactor (for continuous fuel 
removal)
2) natural U fueled-reactor
3) automatically controlled fuel removal and 
addition subsystem, and
4) continuous staged zone refining
5) lots of heavy water moderator

that essentially you can breed far more fuel than 
you burn, without "fast" neutrons (although some are helpful and can be designed 
into the concept) and also get nearly complete burn-up... and also put your 
toxic nuclear waste into an outerpart of the reactor where 

Re: Zone refining for Reprocessing

2005-11-04 Thread Jones Beene



sorry for a number of small errors in the previous 
posting,like "molecules" instead of "atoms" and a few other tell-tale 
traits of mild dyslexia.

My editor didn't show up for work this morning 
;-)

I am making corrections, and if anyone wants a 
revised version, let me know off-list, so as not to gooble-up too much 
band-width.


Re: Zone refining for Reprocessing

2005-11-04 Thread RC Macaulay



Jones,

No apologies required when you keep hammering home the mechanics and the 
science of this energy theme.
Thanks for the insight that hopefully will be a prod if for no other 
purpose than to focus attention on the progress being made in France and 
Canada.
We have stumblebums in Washington that are ducking into cracks. 
Wasn't " Scooter" Libby the lawyer that got Mark Rich the pardon by Clinton. 
Talk about weird. People complain about the "looting" that happened in New 
Orleans after the storm but the real looting has been in Washington. No wonder 
that progress in energy has fled the USA.. We are now sending 1 billion dollars 
per day to Iraq ( Bill O'Reilly show report) and a major part of each dollar is 
not being accounted for. If Jones and Richard tried this stunt they would have 
us both serving in prison35 years for illegal competition .

The mention of the word Westinghouse broughtmy thoughtsto the 
people that led Westinghouse down the tube. In the early 1970's , our systems 
shop in Houston worked very close with some of the brightest at Westinghouse. 
They had the reputation of having the best engineering minds in the business. 
Within 3 years every one of the brightest had left Westinghouse as the company 
started going down the tube.

They had it all, the magic and the resources.. but... squandered it all 
away with " get rich quick" schemes and discarding science while focusing on the 
stock price. They were going to corner the world market for uranium ore and 
wound up on the trash heap of missed opportunities.

Richard



Re: Deriving Power from Atmospheric Pressure Differences

2005-11-04 Thread ThomasClark123



In a message dated 10/27/2005 5:18:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Deriving Power from Atmospheric Pressure Differences over Geographically-Spaced SitesNew method of power generation will harness the difference in atmospheric pressure between locations 100 to 200 miles apart, with reliability comparable to coal, nuclear, gas, and hydro, but at a cost substantially lower, and with no pollution.
Thanks you just gave me some ideas on how JohnKeely technologies may work by using pressure differences in pressurized pipes to power the devices. 

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OT: Tails of the Rich and Famous

2005-11-04 Thread Jones Beene
Blank- Original Message - 
From: RC Macaulay


Wasn't  Scooter Libby the lawyer that got Mark Rich the pardon 
by Clinton. Talk about weird.


...wow, talk about weird-than-weird, not to mention strange 
bedfellows.  I didn't realize this - but:


Scotter  also served as staff director for the Cox Commission, a 
Clinton-era Congressionally mandated study group - which promoted 
the idea of a future conflict with China, along the lines of 
Bernard Lewis and Samuel Huntington's wild call for a Clash of 
Civilizations war between the West on the one side, and the 
Islamic world and China on the other.


But Lewis Libby's real claim to fame, prior to finally getting 
caught, appears to his 18-year collaboration with Russian Mafiya 
godfather Marc Rich. As an understudy to Washington power lawyer 
Leonard Garment, Libby was the personal attorney for Rich from 
1985, shortly after Rich fled the United States to avoid criminal 
prosecution for tax evasion and trading with the enemy—for 
illegal oil dealings with the Khomeini regime in Iran, while they 
were holding American hostages. 


http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=Board=news_governmentNumber=294091726


Hey, Vo's - let's hear your Top ten list of Strange bedfellows

I'll start things off in a non-partisan way with

10. Dubya and Conde
9.   Bill and Hillary
8.   Bill and Scooter
7.   Michael Jackson and Elizabeth Taylor
6.   Rock Hudson and Doris Day (who woulda ever guessed?)
5.   Anwar al-Sadat and Menachem Begin

any takers?? 



Re: OT:Electrostatic Hover Cars

2005-11-04 Thread ThomasClark123



In a message dated 11/4/2005 10:31:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Speaking of mythic interpretations of reality have you ever read any of Terry Pratchett's Disk World series? Now, here's an individual who knows how to harness the power of myth! ...and, of course, least we forget Douglas Adams.
Thanks for the references to the above authors. I will look into them. A series of books I really enjoyed was the River World Series by Philip Jose Farmer, which explained the history of Earth in a unique way by traveling along a million mile river that represented time travel through history to the end of history. 

You stated that you were an artist in addition to a computer programmer. Being an amateur programmer, I have been very interested in animation art, and virtual reality programming, to program virtual reality worlds that can be experienced by the viewers, which I feel will be the next trend in the entertainment industry. One of Bill Gates former employees wrote a book on game programming in which he explained the myth that long ago in unrecorded past history, the art of computer technology had been so advanced that they could literally create reality and life from computer programs and game animations that actually created the reality in which they lived. 

I have been focusing on myths to much as you suggest, and I should try to think more about the present and future than the past. In my case, perhaps I may have been tricked and seduced into walking into another if not many othervirtual reality timelines, where all things are possible, and what we think may come to be almost instantly. Those who have tricked me, may be encouraging me to focus more on mythology than I should, to bring the myths of long bygone daysback to life at times if not to idealize them and improve upon them, which is much like the Never Ending Story Novels where the reader of the book becomes part of the book to create the history, present and future around them as they read the book. The Sir Gewain and Green Knight myths mentions the Lost Land of Lionesse, which was part of Atlantis at one time, which also claims that some events in the past may also occur again in the future, as if the future creates the past but some pasts and futures are hidden from usunless wechoose to be part of themmuch like the Lost Land of Lioness. Since there may be many different pasts on Earth, then also there may be many different futures. We all may be in a time in history presently, were we may be choosing and fighting over which past and which future may come to be in our present and in our local region on Earth. Different regions on Earth each have different cultures, histories, pasts, and futures. Certainly those who do not prefer one past history, may deny its existence to hope to prevent its present and future. 

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Re: A low cost alternative to the space elevator

2005-11-04 Thread Jed Rothwell

Mark Goldes wrote:

Geomagnetic propulsion is based on the use of the earth's magnetic field 
as a force field analogous to the stator of an electric motor.


I understand that. You might compare it to a linear motor railroad.


In effect, it is as through the small artificial field source expands 
itself into a huge magnetic balloon, because of the low density of the 
earth's magnetic field.


Instead of using a physical plate you are making a huge virtual magnetic 
plate. How huge? It would have to hundreds of square kilometers, wouldn't 
it? How much energy does it take to make such a gigantic field?



Cohering the seemingly insignificant forces that act upon every point on 
the surface of the balloon, yields a considerable resultant force.


The forces that act on the balloon appear to be orders of magnitude 
stronger than those you propose to harness. Helium balloons can be very 
small, and I have made functional toy hot air balloons around 2 m tall, out 
of paper. What is the smallest magnetic field you can harness to launch a 
toy lifter of this design? You (or the inventor) would have a great deal 
more credibility if you can demonstrate the principle in a toy.


- Jed




Re: A low cost alternative to the space elevator

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Goldes

Jed,

A toy is possible and likely to be a product in about a year.   This will 
utilize ferromagnetic material which is quite marginal when compared with 
Ultraconductors.


Size does not appear to be a factor.  Quite small motors have been used in 
experiments.


That is what makes this so interesting a technology.

Mark





From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: A low cost alternative to the space elevator
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:31:36 -0500

Mark Goldes wrote:

Geomagnetic propulsion is based on the use of the earth's magnetic field 
as a force field analogous to the stator of an electric motor.


I understand that. You might compare it to a linear motor railroad.


In effect, it is as through the small artificial field source expands 
itself into a huge magnetic balloon, because of the low density of the 
earth's magnetic field.


Instead of using a physical plate you are making a huge virtual magnetic 
plate. How huge? It would have to hundreds of square kilometers, wouldn't 
it? How much energy does it take to make such a gigantic field?



Cohering the seemingly insignificant forces that act upon every point on 
the surface of the balloon, yields a considerable resultant force.


The forces that act on the balloon appear to be orders of magnitude 
stronger than those you propose to harness. Helium balloons can be very 
small, and I have made functional toy hot air balloons around 2 m tall, out 
of paper. What is the smallest magnetic field you can harness to launch a 
toy lifter of this design? You (or the inventor) would have a great deal 
more credibility if you can demonstrate the principle in a toy.


- Jed







Re: Double Positronium Molecules

2005-11-04 Thread Frederick Sparber



Some news is good news.

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/cosmology-05zc.html

""Our research also gives the first hint of the presence of double positronium molecules, each of which is made up of two electrons and two positrons,""said Allen Mills, professor of physics and leader of the research project."
""This kind of matter-antimatter pairing has never been formed or studied in the laboratory until now, and paves the way for a new field of study on its properties.""
Fred




Re: O.T.: Tails of the Rich and famous

2005-11-04 Thread RC Macaulay



Jones wrote..
Hey, Vo's - let's hear your Top ten list of "Strange bedfellows"I'll 
start things off in a non-partisan way with10. Dubya and 
Conde9. Bill and Hillary8. Bill and 
Scooter7. Michael Jackson and Elizabeth Taylor6. 
Rock Hudson and Doris Day (who woulda ever guessed?)5. Anwar 
al-Sadat and Menachem Beginany takers?? 
I'll take a shot at # 5,
In 1982, we went to New Orleans to bid a package controls systems, electrical 
switchgear and electronics on two huge grain silosto bebuilt in 
Egypt and funded by EDA. These silos were to receive the grain shipments per 
week into perpretuity promised Egypt as part of the deal to get Sadat to shake 
hands with Begin at the White House ceremony with Prez Jimmie Carter. Us 
being naive ole Texas country boys that though the world wuz run on the level, 
we and 12 other competitors entered our bids and sat in the bid opening. 
Shazzaam ! The low bidder, a New Orleans good ole boy , came in almost a 1/3 of 
what everyone else bid. As we rode down on the elevator, one bidder from Dallas 
remarked.. did you ever get the feeling we were looking at a completely 
different set of contract drawings? The Engineer was the Corps of Engineers USA 
but subbed the engineering to a Baton Rouge consulting engineering firm. Later I 
heard the rumor that the contractor was awarded numerous change orders to 
suppliment his contract.
Where is this story leading? hmmm.. The Port of Houston has been 
shipping grain to Egypt at the rate ofTWO freeships a week since the 
1980's... but.. that has now been increased to FOUR free ships per week. After 
all Egypt has the highest birthrate and largest population of the Arab middle 
east Muslim nations and they only want us to keep our handshake deal. Jimme 
Carter paid the price for that gesture later by the Iranians holding our embassy 
people hostage. Later Reagan brokered a deal with Egypt to keep the grain 
flowing if Egypt would put in agood word to Iran to play the great game. 
All of which led to the later Iran- Contra scandel, Oiley North et.al. Bush One 
took a Mad Magazine approach uttering .. who me?



FW: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday November 4, 2005

2005-11-04 Thread Akira Kawasaki
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 WHAT'S NEW   Robert L. Park   Friday, 4 Nov 05   Washington, DC  

 1. EVOLUTION: BUSH ASKS FOR $7B TO FIGHT EVOLVING BIRD-FLU VIRUS.
 This is the final week of the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School
 Board trial in a Harrisburg, PA federal court.  Back in August,
 before the trial was underway, President Bush came down on the
 side of intelligent design, much to the delight of the religious-
 right http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/WN05/wn080505.html .  On
 Tuesday, however, he announced that he would ask Congress for
 $7.1 billion to prepare the nation for a worldwide outbreak of
 flu.  It's a hedge against evolution.  Although a virulent strain
 of bird flu has killed at least 62 people in Asia, there have
 been no confirmed cases of human-to-human transmission.  The fear
 is that the H5N1 virus will mutate (evolve) making that possible. 
 Does this mean that Mr. Bush has changed his mind on evolution?

 2. SUPREME QUESTION: WHAT ARE THE NOMINEE'S VIEWS ON SCIENCE? 
 According to the news, Samuel Alito, the President's new choice
 for the Court, told Senators in both parties that the Court may
 have gone too far in separating church and state.  How can they
 be too separate?  That's particularly scary now when it seems
 possible that the decision in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School
 Board will be appealed to the Supreme Court, no matter how it
 turns out.  We'll go back to questions submitted by readers next
 week, but in light of Alito's nomination, WN will exercise its
 editorial prerogative, posing its own question this week:

  Does the intelligent designer who designs people, also
  design viruses?  If so, is this conflict-of-interest? 

 3. FUNDAMENTALISM: THE POSITION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH EVOLVES. 
 In the summer heat, a powerful Cardinal, writing in the NY Times,
 flatly rejected Darwinian evolution, outraging most scientists.
 However, WN wrote that, the Church's position is evolving, 
 http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/WN05/wn070805.html , and so it
 has.  In an Associated Press story today, Cardinal Poupard, head
 of the Pontifical Council for Culture, said, we know the dangers
 of a religion that severs its links with reason and becomes prey
 to fundamentalism.  The faithful have the obligation to listen to
 that which secular modern science has to offer.  Amen.

 4. NASA: THE ERA OF HUMAN SPACE FLIGHT ENDED 33 YEARS AGO. 
 That's when Apollo 17 returned from the moon.  Someone had better
 tell NASA.  Thursday, Michael Griffin told the House Science
 Committee that the agency needs another $5B to continue operating
 the shuttle until 2010.  It will take that long to complete the
 International Space Station so we can begin to dismantle it.  The
 shuttle was the biggest technological blunder in history, but the
 station is closing the gap.  The shuttle was supposed to make it
 cheaper to send things into space.  It didn't.  The space station
 was supposed to do something.  I can't remember what.  But we do
 still need the shuttle for one final repair mission to Hubble.

 THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND.
 Opinions are the author's and not necessarily shared by the
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Re: O.T.: Tails of the Rich and famous

2005-11-04 Thread Jed Rothwell

RC Macaulay wrote:


Bush One took a Mad Magazine approach  uttering .. who me?


I think you mean: What me worry? Let us quote great literature accurately.

- Jed






Re: BlackLightPower Hydrinos In The News

2005-11-04 Thread John Coviello




The link to this article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,1627424,00.html

Notice the brief mention of Cold 
Fusion.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John 
  Coviello 
  To: Vortex 
  Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 6:27 
  PM
  Subject: BlackLightPower Hydrinos In The 
  News
  
  Fuel's paradise? Power 
  source that turns physics on its head· Scientist says 
  device disproves quantum theory· Opponents claim idea is result of wrong 
  maths Alok Jha, science correspondentFriday November 4, 
  2005The GuardianIt seems too good to be true: a new source of 
  near-limitless power that costs virtually nothing, uses tiny amounts of water 
  as its fuel and produces next to no waste. If that does not sound radical 
  enough, how about this: the principle behind the source turns modern physics 
  on its head.Randell Mills, a Harvard University medic who also studied 
  electrical engineering at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, claims to 
  have built a prototype power source that generates up to 1,000 times more heat 
  than conventional fuel. Independent scientists claim to have verified the 
  experiments and Dr Mills says that his company, Blacklight Power, has tens of 
  millions of dollars in investment lined up to bring the idea to market. And he 
  claims to be just months away from unveiling his creation.The problem 
  is that according to the rules of quantum mechanics, the physics that governs 
  the behaviour of atoms, the idea is theoretically impossible. "Physicists are 
  quite conservative. It's not easy to convince them to change a theory that is 
  accepted for 50 to 60 years. I don't think [Mills's] theory should be 
  supported," said Jan Naudts, a theoretical physicist at the University of 
  Antwerp.What has much of the physics world up in arms is Dr Mills's 
  claim that he has produced a new form of hydrogen, the simplest of all the 
  atoms, with just a single proton circled by one electron. In his "hydrino", 
  the electron sits a little closer to the proton than normal, and the formation 
  of the new atoms from traditional hydrogen releases huge amounts of 
  energy.This is scientific heresy. According to quantum mechanics, 
  electrons can only exist in an atom in strictly defined orbits, and the 
  shortest distance allowed between the proton and electron in hydrogen is 
  fixed. The two particles are simply not allowed to get any 
  closer.According to Dr Mills, there can be only one explanation: 
  quantum mechanics must be wrong. "We've done a lot of testing. We've got 50 
  independent validation reports, we've got 65 peer-reviewed journal articles," 
  he said. "We ran into this theoretical resistance and there are some vested 
  interests here. People are very strong and fervent protectors of this 
  [quantum] theory that they use."Rick Maas, a chemist at the University 
  of North Carolina at Asheville (UNC) who specialises in sustainable energy 
  sources, was allowed unfettered access to Blacklight's laboratories this year. 
  "We went in with a healthy amount of scepticism. While it would certainly be 
  nice if this were true, in my position as head of a research institution, I 
  really wouldn't want to make a mistake. The last thing I want is to be 
  remembered as the person who derailed a lot of sustainable energy investment 
  into something that wasn't real."But Prof Maas and Randy Booker, a UNC 
  physicist, left under no doubt about Dr Mill's claims. "All of us who are not 
  quantum physicists are looking at Dr Mills's data and we find it very 
  compelling," said Prof Maas. "Dr Booker and I have both put our professional 
  reputations on the line as far as that goes."Dr Mills's idea goes 
  against almost a century of thinking. When scientists developed the theory of 
  quantum mechanics they described a world where measuring the exact position or 
  energy of a particle was impossible and where the laws of classical physics 
  had no effect. The theory has been hailed as one of the 20th century's 
  greatest achievements.But it is an achievement Dr Mills thinks is 
  flawed. He turned back to earlier classical physics to develop a theory which, 
  unlike quantum mechanics, allows an electron to move much closer to the proton 
  at the heart of a hydrogen atom and, in doing so, release the substantial 
  amounts of energy he seeks to exploit. Dr Mills's theory, known as classical 
  quantum mechanics and published in the journal Physics Essays in 2003, has 
  been criticised most publicly by Andreas Rathke of the European Space Agency. 
  In a damning critique published recently in the New Journal of Physics, he 
  argued that Dr Mills's theory was the result of mathematical 
  mistakes.Dr Mills argues that there are plenty of flaws in Dr Rathke's 
  critique. "His paper's riddled with mistakes. We've had other physicists 
  contact him and say this is embarrassing to the journal and [Dr Rathke] won't 
  respond," said Dr 

A123 Systems Releases New Lithium-ion Battery

2005-11-04 Thread John Coviello



A123Systems releases new Lithium-ion battery 
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:42 PM Utilizing nanoscale 
electrode technology, the battery lasts 10x as long, has 5X power gain, charges 
90% capacity in five minutes. First batteries will be sold to Black  Decker 
for their DeWALT brand chordless 
tools.WATERTOWN, 
MASSACHUSETTS, USA -- A123Systems, developer of a new generation of Lithium-ion 
batteries, Wednesday unveiled its technology and announced that it is delivering 
batteries with unprecedented power, safety, and life as compared to conventional 
Lithium technology. A123Systems’ first battery is now in production and 
being delivered to the Black  Decker Corporation (NYSE: BDK). It will be 
first utilized by the corporation’s DeWALT brand, a leading manufacturer of 
power tools.Advanced PerformanceA123Systems’ battery 
technology delivers up to 10X longer life, 5X power gains and dramatically 
faster charge time over conventional high power battery technology, as validated 
by independent testing at Motorola and government research labs. A123Systems’ 
batteries use proprietary nanoscale electrode technology built on research at 
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and exclusively licensed from MIT. 
“A123's revolutionary technology will enable manufacturers to improve 
the performance and form factor of existing high-power portable devices and to 
transform products currently dependent on power cords and sockets into a new 
class of portable devices,” said David Vieau, CEO and president of A123Systems. 
“We expect that our technology will have the same impact on high-power products 
as the introduction of first generation Lithium-ion technology had on the 
development and commercialization of consumer electronics in the 
1990s.”A123Systems’ initial family of batteries is targeted at 
applications that require high power, high levels of safety, and longer life. 
These include power tools, advanced medical devices, hybrid electric vehicles, 
mobility products such as electric scooters, robotics, and consumer electronics. 
High Power. A123Systems’ first product packs up to five times the 
power density of current rechargeable, high power batteries. In addition, the 
battery has the ability to recharge to 90% of its capacity in five minutes. 
http://www.opensourceenergy.org/C17/News%20Viewer/default.aspx?ID=1041Electric cars anyone? 5X power density and 90% recharge in 5 
minutes. We were just discussing this on Vortex a few months ago, a 
Japanese car maker who was working on a 5 minute rechargable battery. This 
will bring electric vehicles into the mainstream. With power densities and 
recharge rates like these, electric vehicles with considerable range and 
flexibility will bea reality in a few 
years.


Re: Podkletnov's Disks

2005-11-04 Thread Wesley Bruce

thomas malloy wrote:


Bruce posted;


Don't call me bruce! Call me wes!



Podkletnov's device could be made into a
reactionless drive if we can get reliable mass production of his disks
and steady high voltage power supply. I'm in corrispondance with Dr
Podklenov

This is very interesting. Have you observed this unidirectional force? 


No but much of science is based on trust. The effect has not been 
indepedantly replicated but the same is true for much of the atom 
smashing work in places like CERN.



Do you have an explanation for the mechanism?


Yes but I need to work with a physicist that can do the math.

I was quite fascinated with the reactionless drive. a Both from a 
practical and theoretical standpoint.


No drive can be truly reactionless! We are really talking of drives that 
interact electrostatically with waves or photons. These become invisible 
or insubstantial reaction mass.
There are very few practical examples. The magnetic drive that interact 
with the earths magnetic fields is a fuel less drive. A solar sail is 
also a fuel less drive.

My theory:
I believe that the electrons in a Bose condensate can absorb ZPE 
randomly but can't emit them randomly. It must emit them all in one 
direction at a given time. With a sphere or other shape the result is 
random but in Podkletnov’s device the Bose is flat and backed up with a 
resisting layer. This lazes the ZPE into a beam. It is unidirectional 
because the Bose Ion can recoil in only one direction. The beam effects 
sub atomic matter through the radiation reaction effect or the 
stochastic electrodynamics equivalent.


I need someone who can write the equations.

Does anyone have DR Puthoffs email address? I only have an out of date 
address for him. Either that or he thinks I'm a complete nut: which is 
about right.




Re: ISS

2005-11-04 Thread Wesley Bruce

Standing Bear wrote:


[Big snip]


Don't panic about a chinese space race. I suspect that if China really 
gets going it will spell the end of communism. People are dropping out 
of the party buy the millions. To many chinese who see the opportunities 
of space, are also able to see that gulags on Mars wont work well. As a 
citizen of a country founded as a convict settlement, Australia, I 
happen to know that it can work but only if the govenor is a genious. If 
a Mars Gulag fails that would be sad but what wonderful opportunities to 
the free setttlers that follow to reclaim the ruin.


Frankly I think we can make a nuclear reactor that works fine in a 
meteor storm. If meteors are punching holes in things then  the last 
thing the crew would be worried about is the reactor! Big bumper bars 
will be easy. Just stick the bulk cargo out front. So what if the bull 
dozers got a hole in it!




I hope all of our suggestions don't eventually prove to be just
academic.  I just read an interview that the good people at
nuclearspace.com had with some government agencies:

 quote from webpage--
 NASA's Project Prometheus is in partnership with the Department of 
Energy's Office of Naval Reactors (DOE-NR) within the National Nuclear 
Security Administration (NNSA) to develop a space nuclear reactor for use in 
future robotic exploration activities. The Office of Naval Reactors (NR) is a 
joint Navy-DOE organization having responsibility and authority in both 
agencies. The Secretary of Energy assigned NR to partner with NASA in support 
of Project Prometheus solely as a DOE civilian project.



 We made an inquiry over current status in efforts to build a space reactor, 
nuclearspace.com (NS) contributors posed questions to the agency responsible 
for building a premier space nuclear reactor. DOE-NNSA/NR Public Affairs 
Officer, Kevin Davis declined an NS phone interview request, but in a written 
response to the following questions posed by NS contributors Ty Moore, Jaro 
Franta and Bruce Behrhorst responded; excerpt of text below..

--

there followed a long obviousely scripted 'interview'.  All of the 'questions' 
appear to have been required to have prior submission and approval, and

all the answers appear to be direct from the agencies public relations branch
after being run through their general legal counsel.  As such, most of the
questions are ducked and evaded by the interviewee, who appears to sound
like a classic broken record much of the time.  The interviewee interjects
'probable lunar mission' or words to that effect into many of the questions
that the agency did consent to have presented;  and then gives a standard
boiler plate denial of a 'lunar mission' over and over again.  This is akin to
the old rhetorical game of setting up a 'straw man' and knocking him down.
The conclusions reached by NuclearSpace at the end were pessimistic about
our prospects and our intents concerning realistic space exporation.  I tend
to agree with NuclearSpace in this, and wonder if the present administration
only wants the programs around with minimum funding to use as photo ops
and to show that it is 'doing something'.   Even if it is wrong!It is 
evidently not now percieved in the national interest to invest seriousely

in space, really.  If so all our suggestions to this present administration
are going to be ignored until circumstances change.  Face it, present so
called plans involve using some nebulous 'appolo' capsule of very small
size considering what might have to be done, and chemical rockets all
the way.  No repair capability!  If a micrometeoroid holes a tank and fuel
is lost, too bad!  And if a crew is lost...throw up ones hands and give up
like the French in 1940.as if this is the aim all along.  But then the 
chem ships will use a lot of petrol, happily sold to the government by the 
oil and oil service people now primarily contracting in Iraq and the 
administration high official with well  known connections to that company and 
its corporate child there with the three letters in its name.

  The Russians, God bless 'em, have a better vision.  The Russian President
said as much last March with an appeal for nuclear propulsion.   Knowing they
lack funds to do it themselves, the Russians appealed then for international
cooperation on a joint venture or a series of them in order to go to Mars by
2017.  
 The Europeans appear to be listening.  They are joining with them to
buy the Kliper.  That little ship is 'cute', and it may prove quite practical.  
If some of the above other technologies prove viable, it can be a platform
for a real shuttle all by itself.  
 The Chinese may be listening as well.  They have sought out the Russians 
for some close and secret agreements in recent months, many