Re: [Vo]: Joe Cell Phase II Photochemical Reactions

2006-08-05 Thread Frederick Sparber



Terry wrote.


 I will store the 2 litre results in some (Templar) masonic jars until Tom is ready to test for activity in his hydrobooster and I have results from phase II for the small engines.

There might be photochemical effects that could "denature" the
activated water if it's exposed to light, no?

Fred






Re: [Vo]: Joe Cell Phase II Photochemical Reactions

2006-08-05 Thread Frederick Sparber



On second thought, Terry, you might want to store it
in that "Little Brown Jug" you have stashed in your medicine cabinet
lest it might really popit's cork on a "Rainy Night in Georgia". 

2.5 eV photons are two orders of magnitude above the 0.025 eV
thermal energy at 27 degrees C. 

Fred

- Original Message - 
From: Frederick Sparber 
To: vortex-l
Sent: 8/5/2006 2:03:41 AM 
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Joe Cell Phase II  Photochemical Reactions


Terry wrote.


 I will store the 2 litre results in some (Templar) masonic jars until Tom is ready to test for activity in his hydrobooster and I have results from phase II for the small engines.

There might be photochemical effects that could "denature" the
activated water if it's exposed to light, no?

Fred






Re: [Vo]: Correa Patent Issued

2006-08-05 Thread Christopher Arnold
Terry,My comments on this are at http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=1993mode=threadorder=0thold=0however I will say here that the Correa's are common folk, with no imagination, foul, nastypersonalitiesand they havesticky fingers as well.My Pulsed Plasma Drive worked so well for them - they decided to say they invented it! Running a motor with a Tesla Spark gap is something even Tesla did not do,and it is already covered by my work. So much for it not working.Chris Arnold"The invention also extends to apparatus in which an otherwise drivenplasma reactor operating in pulsed abnormal gas discharge mode in turnused to drive an inertially
 damped drag motor."Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  US 7,053,576"AbstractThis invention relates to apparatus for the conversion of massfreeenergy into electrical or kinetic energy, which uses in its preferredform a transmitter and a receiver both incorporating Tesla coils, thedistal ends of whose secondary windings are co-resonant and connectedto plates of a chamber, preferably evacuated or filled with water,such that energy radiated by the transmitter may be picked up by thereceiver, the receiver preferably further including a pulsed plasmareactor driven by the receiver coil and a split phase motor driven bythe reactor. Preferably the reactor operates in pulsed abnormal gasdischarge mode, and the motor is an inertially damped drag motor. The
 invention also extends to apparatus in which an otherwise driven plasma reactor operating in pulsed abnormal gas discharge mode in turn used to drive an inertially damped drag motor." 
		Groups are talking. Were listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. 

[Vo]: odd coincidence

2006-08-05 Thread Taylor J. Smith
Hi All,

How odd.

I just finished reading Towards ... by William
Tiller, p. 9, Infinite Energy, Vol 10, Issue 58, 2004,
about mentally conditioning a laboratory to produce
anomolous results, and then this morning I read the
enclosed below:

Jack Smith

-

Forward from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Akira Kawasaki)

WHAT'S NEW   Robert L. Park   Friday, 4 Aug 06   Washington, DC 

3. BLEEP: WILLIAM TILLER AND RAMTHA'S SCHOOL OF ENLIGHTENMENT.
August is a slow month, and I promised last week to say a little
about Ramtha and William Tiller ...

Randy E Hargraves wrote:

Hi Friends
I was one of the individuals that Bought and Paid 
for a SMOT unit from Greg Watson I never received
it ...

Greg Watson wrote:

Hi Randy,

You need to checkout the site I have created which has
ample proof that the Prometheus Effect, at the heart
of the SMOT device, is OU:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/prometheus_effect/

You will get your SMOT complete with a new real time
measurement system which allows rapid ramp adjustment
to obtain max OU energy creation. I expect to start
shipping unit in about 2 months so anyone else who
didn't get or want their money back, just send me your
delivery details.

All the best, Greg Watson




[VO]:Re: Correa Patent Issued

2006-08-05 Thread RC Macaulay



Chris wrote..
My comments on this are at http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=1993mode=threadorder=0thold=0however 
I will say here that the Correa's are common folk, with no imagination, foul, 
nastypersonalitiesand they havesticky fingers as well.

My Pulsed Plasma Drive worked so well for them - they decided to say they 
invented it! 

Howdy Chris,

Gosh Chris,
That's plum disgusting! My sweet ole grandma Blanche Louise Townley, 
to whom one never attributed a "cuss word" would have understood and appreciated 
the " common" remark. One must be veddy British to appreciate the depth of 
disgust the use of this word implies.
Richard


Re: [Vo]: Re: Aqueous-Electrolytic CO2 Catalyzed H2 Producrtion

2006-08-05 Thread Terry Blanton

On 8/4/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


A previously used (years) aluminum pot with a Teflon coating is
quite conductive...  ERGO age  usage must promote porosity, which
is not obvious visually  ...


I might have scratched it when I put the plates in; but, when I filled
it with salt water for a test, I detected no conductivity.

Terry



Re: [Vo]: Joe Cell Running

2006-08-05 Thread Terry Blanton

On 8/4/06, Wesley Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Whats the  metal under the Teflon.


Aluminum.


If there are field effects involved
then induced currents in any metal can cause the effect to fail.
Insulator on metal is not the same as a non metallic container. Also
take a volt meter and check for charge and charge leakage in the unused
wires.


The voltage drop from the anode to the cathode increases from plate to
plate.  I will quantify that today.


The plates are uncharged but will gain charge. If they do they
become positive or negative capacitors. Are the ends of the unused wires
from adjacent plates segregated?


Yes, they are segregated.  I thought the whole point of the neutral
plates was to make them capacitors.

Terry



[Vo]: Joe Cell Phase II Photochemical Reactions

2006-08-05 Thread Terry Blanton

On 8/5/06, Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On second thought, Terry, you might want to store it
in that Little Brown Jug you have stashed in your medicine cabinet
lest it might really pop it's cork on a Rainy Night in Georgia.


Ain't got no cork.  Is a corn cob okay?  It hasn't been used.

Terry



[Vo]: When Chaos Replaces Oil

2006-08-05 Thread Terry Blanton

http://www.hbtoday.co.nz/localnews/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3694928thesection=localnewsthesubsection=thesecondsubsection=

http://tinyurl.com/ldupk

FEATURE: When chaos replaces oil

02.08.2006
KATHY WEBB
Peter Lloyd is preparing for a ghastly future. The world he foresees
is one in which it will cost $700 or $1000 to fill the family car - if
petrol is available for private use.

It will be a world in which the scarcity and expense of oil,
widespread pollution, environmental ruin and climate change will bring
down modern civilisation in terrible anarchy as countries go to war
over oil, fresh water or arable land; as ordinary people try to adjust
to living primitive lives without the medicines and technology that
support their lives in the 21st century.

Dr Lloyd, an anaesthetist at the Hawke's Bay Hospital, estimates about
80 percent of the world's six billion people will die of hunger,
disease or slaughter on a scale never before seen in history.

more

The other two in the series:

Previous:

http://tinyurl.com/evmus

FEATURE: Life in the straw

Subsequent:

http://tinyurl.com/j3fea

FEATURES: Harmony off the grid

Zelanders are smarter than the average American.

Terry



RE: [Vo]: Joe Cell Phase II Photochemical Reactions

2006-08-05 Thread Frederick Sparber

We used a seed potato if the cobs were too dry, Terry.

Fred

 [Original Message]
 From: Terry 

 On 8/5/06, Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  On second thought, Terry, you might want to store it
  in that Little Brown Jug you have stashed in your medicine cabinet
  lest it might really pop it's cork on a Rainy Night in Georgia.

 Ain't got no cork.  Is a corn cob okay?  It hasn't been used.

 Terry





[Vo]: WKtEC

2006-08-05 Thread Terry Blanton

Who killed the electric car? is playing in Atlanta at the Tara on
Cheshire Bridge.  I hope to see it this week.

Here's a news story about a converted Fiero:

http://www.wusa9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=51174

click on related video.  Do you think the solar panels help?  :-)

Terry



Re: [Vo]: Joe Cell Phase II Photochemical Reactions

2006-08-05 Thread Terry Blanton

On 8/5/06, Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


We used a seed potato if the cobs were too dry, Terry.


I trust you mean for the jug seal and not for TP.  Darn potato will
seal any exhaust pipe.  :-)

Terry



Re: [Vo]: WKtEC

2006-08-05 Thread Terry Blanton

On 8/5/06, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Who killed the electric car? is playing in Atlanta at the Tara on
Cheshire Bridge.  I hope to see it this week.


Another video from Jon Stewart's Daily Show on the subject.  Quite amusing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Z4xEmAuR0

Terry



Re: [Vo]: Joe Cell Phase II Photochemical Reactions

2006-08-05 Thread Frederick Sparber
Terry wrote.


 On 8/5/06, Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  We used a seed potato if the cobs were too dry, Terry.

 I trust you mean for the jug seal and not for TP.  Darn potato will
 seal any exhaust pipe.  :-)

I meant for a jug seal. Butt if you used them for TP you could
get  over 400 bushels per acre off a peck of them. Maybe so
much yield  that you would need to dig them with a skip-loader.  :-)

Fred

 Terry





Re: [Vo]: Joe Cell Phase II Photochemical Reactions

2006-08-05 Thread Frederick Sparber
BTW, Terry, during WW II when cotton was scarce, in our
high school you could tell when it was that time for the girls
because they were only wearing one sock.
Toxic sock syndrome was a major concern too.

Fred


 Terry wrote.
 
 
  On 8/5/06, Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   We used a seed potato if the cobs were too dry, Terry.
 
  I trust you mean for the jug seal and not for TP.  Darn potato will
  seal any exhaust pipe.  :-)
 
 I meant for a jug seal. Butt if you used them for TP you could
 get  over 400 bushels per acre off a peck of them. Maybe so
 much yield  that you would need to dig them with a skip-loader.  :-)

 Fred
 
  Terry







[Vo]: Joe Cell Plate Voltages

2006-08-05 Thread Terry Blanton

Here is the data.  Error is +/- 0.1 VDC.  Measurement is from anode to
cathode.  Note the power supply has gone up in V from 9.15 to 9.4.

http://www.geocities.com/terry1094/JC_Plate_Voltages.xls

Terry



[Vo]: Correa Patent Issued

2006-08-05 Thread Jeff and Dorothy Kooistra
Some Named Hal Ade made this comment on that site:

I believe this was the Correa motor, the operation of which was witnessed by 
the late Eugene MAllove, D. Sc., and formerly with M.I.T. Dr. MAllove, being 
an electrical engineer, and wise to any means which could be used to hoax a 
witness, checked the device for connections to any external source of 
conventional energy, and found none.

I worked with Mallove for a year--he was not an electrical engineer by any 
stretch of the imagination, nor did he claim to be.  He was not an 
experimentalist and would not have been any better than anyone else at 
detecting a hoax.  That doesn't mean there was a hoax, of course, but inflating 
Mallove's powers of observation is meaningless.

Jeff Kooistra

Former Associate Editor of Infinite Energy Magazine.



-- Original Message --
From: Christopher Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date:  Sat, 5 Aug 2006 03:46:32 -0700 (PDT)

Terry,
   
  My comments on this are at 
 http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=1993mode=threadorder=0thold=0
  however I will say here that the Correa's are common folk, with no 
 imagination, foul, nasty personalities and they have sticky fingers as well.
   
  My Pulsed Plasma Drive worked so well for them - they decided to say they 
 invented it! Running a motor with a Tesla Spark gap is something even Tesla 
 did not do, and it is already covered by my work. So much for it not working.
   
  Chris Arnold
   
  The invention also extends to apparatus in which an otherwise driven
plasma reactor operating in pulsed abnormal gas discharge mode in turn
used to drive an inertially damped drag motor.
   
 



[Vo]: Re: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water

2006-08-05 Thread Willis Jenkin
Robin!

On your response to my posting on ‘some’ in the field using pulsed DC and
still obtaining gas production (H2, O2), below 1.2V, please be assured that
it was not measured with a DC volt meter, more like a $25K US Tek Scope and
followed with a standard formula of  Vrms=Sqrt(y/x)* Vp, where Vp is the
pulse max V, y is the pulse width and x is leading edge to leading edge.



[Vo]: help requested mpg to swf

2006-08-05 Thread Steve Krivit
Any Vorts skilled at converting mpg to swf? I've got a one-hour video from 
1989 of an internal EPRI meeting about CF that I'd love to drop on the net. 
I could use either some guidance (I own Macromedia MX Flash 2004 but I'm a 
novice and don't want to take the time to RTFM) or some volunteer 
assistance to do the encoding.


thx

s



Re: [Vo]: Correa Patent Issued

2006-08-05 Thread thomas malloy

Christopher Arnold wrote:


Terry,
 
My comments on this are at 
http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=1993mode=threadorder=0thold=0 
http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=1993mode=threadorder=0thold=0 however 
I will say here that the Correa's are common folk, with no 
imagination, foul, nasty personalities and they have sticky fingers as 
well.



I take it that you don't care for Paulo and Alexandra, eh, Chris?

 
My Pulsed Plasma Drive worked so well for them -



Your PAGD?


they decided to say they invented it!



And now you are saying that you developed it? Can you prove that?

Running a motor with a Tesla Spark gap is something even Tesla did not 
do, and it is already covered by my work. So much for it not working.


I've heard that the PAGD worked. Apparently it doesn't work all that 
well. I'm still looking for a FE device to heat my house, winter is coming!


What do you think about the Correa's theory about extracting energy from 
Orgone Boxes?


 





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Re: [Vo]: odd coincidence

2006-08-05 Thread thomas malloy



Greg Watson wrote:

Hi Randy,

You need to checkout the site I have created which has
ample proof that the Prometheus Effect, at the heart
of the SMOT device, is OU:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/prometheus_effect/
 


I tried the above link and got a no such page found error message.


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