[Vo]:Ascomata

2008-08-25 Thread Horace Heffner
It may well be that some of the objects in the Phoenix photographs I  
have taken for Foraminids may in fact be ascomata, fruiting bodies.   
For a good photographic match see the photo:


http://www.mycolog.com/4_Trochila_unopened.jpg

which can be found in context by locating Trochila in the page:

http://www.mycolog.com/CHAP4b.htm

Trochila is about halfway through this very large web page.  This  
kind of ascoma opens somewhat like a clam, because a lid pops off,  
exposing the white hymenium underneath.


Looking back through the micrographs, there appears to be plenty of  
evidence of split ascoma remains, as well as hyphal blooms.  The Sol  
73 photos show some good examples. The photo:


http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=19228cID=209

shows various bodies that appear to be fragments of or split ascoma,  
especially the following:



inline: Picture 1.png



Though the Trochila is a fungus, lichen is essentially comprised of a  
symbiotic mix of fungus and algae, so any fungal structure is a  
candiate to be observed in a lichen on Mars.


Note also the matchstick like structures found in Order  
Clavicipitales, found also described in:


http://www.mycolog.com/CHAP4b.htm


Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/






Re: [Vo]:OT: Conspiracy preserving the Status Quo

2008-08-25 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence


Jones Beene wrote:
 --- Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
 
 Now there is a problem here, which is that large
 buildings are put together via welding torches which,
 when they are used to weld beams
 
 That is apparently FALSE for that building. 
 
 Where did you get this exactly? Please give us some
 cites. I hope it was not from NIST, or maybe they are
 more ignorant than ever imagined. 

Oh heavens no, not from NIST, in fact there was no solid source involved
at all.  The bit about welding was just common knowledge and if WTC
12 weren't put together that way then it was just plain false.

My knowledge of the source for Jones's dust sample, OTOH, came from
reading a longish paper from Steve Jones on the subject of WTC 12.


 
 This was a 40+ year old design building which was
 erected using precut, predrilled, prefab beams which
 were riveted onsite. There were few welds. The welds
 that were there were largely gas arc welds using alloy
 which was different from the beam alloy. See How
 Columns Will Be Designed for 110-Story Buildings,
 Engineering News-Record, April 2, 1964: 48-49.

OK, I didn't know any of that.  Sorry.

 
 spray fine droplets of iron into the air. 
 
 That would only happen if beams were flame cut onsite
 and not prefab. And even if there were lots more welds
 than suspected, the welding rod alloy used would not
 be the same as the unique beam alloy, which was
 special.
 
 AFAIK he made *no* *effort* to rule out
 that possibility.  (And he talks about other people
 failing to examine alternate hypotheses!)
 
 You simply haven't kept up with this very well, or
 have been reading earlier material.

Former.  And, consequently, the latter too.


 Or -- if you do
 have real citations, please offer them.
 
 Steven Jones did seem to go off on tangents early on
 (he should have avoided building 1  2 altogether),
 but now that he has the support of over 400 top level
 architects and engineers, some even employed by NIST
 who were removed from this report because of their
 affiliation with him, many of the lose ends are being
 tied up. 
 
 In fact the iron microspheres are less important than
 the other thermate-specific chemicals found. 
 
 This site has many of the technical articles:
 
 http://www.ae911truth.org/#techarts
 
 Jones
 



[Vo]:Test

2008-08-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Test. Please ignore.



[Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut

2008-08-25 Thread Horace Heffner

Before photo, Sol 5, 14:47:02 camera elevation -13 deg, azimuth 197:

http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=1018cID=26

http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images/gallery/lg_1018.jpg


After photo, Sol 89, 11:45:08, camera elevation -19 deg, azimuth 197:

http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=24843cID=247

http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images/gallery/lg_24843.jpg

The following photo is a lightened version of the important portion  
of the above jpg.  It was lightened to be sure the difference in  
lighting due to time of day was not the cause of the apparent  
difference in the size of the subject blobs.


inline: Growth.png



Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/






[Vo]:Cold fusion conference at TEET, Tokyo, Sept. 26

2008-08-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
The Thermal  Electric Energy Technology Foundation (TEET) will hold a
one-day seminar on cold fusion, September 26, 2008.

http://www.teet.or.jp/12shimpo.pdf

Address (in Japanese):

財団法人熱・電気エネルギー技術財団
〒100-0011 東京都千代田区内幸町1-1-1 帝国ホテルタワー13 階
TEL:03-3503-7722 FAX:03-3503-7799

問合せ先: 上記及びe-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HP: http://www.teet.or.jp

Speakers include the usual suspects:

H. Mori (TEET)
A. Takahashi (Osaka U.)
A. Kitamura (Kobe U.)
Y. Iwamura (Mitsubishi)
H. Yamada (Iwate, U.)
Y. Arata (Osaka U.)

Panel discussion

Closing remarks, R. Yasuhara (TEET)



[Vo]:When GM Murdered EV1

2008-08-25 Thread Terry Blanton
This 2005 article was referenced in another list:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21991-2005Mar9.html

says:

The company says that it cannot sell the cars because it would have a
legal obligation to service them and that it can't provide service
because many suppliers quit making the 2,000 unique parts that went
into the design. 

Hogwash!  What they discovered is that they did not need to stock ANY
parts.  *That's* what killed the EV-1.

Terry



Re: [Vo]:OT: Conspiracy preserving the Status Quo

2008-08-25 Thread Taylor J. Smith
Harry Veeder wrote:
 
What does it take to ignite thermite?

Hi All,

Thermite can be ignited with a short thin strip
of magnesium metal, which can be lit with a match.

Every high school chemistry laboratory which
I spent any time at always had powdered aluminum
metal and iron oxide powder on hand, as well as
at least one roll of magnesium stripping.  These
things can be ordered from the ads at the back
of Popular Science.  

In addition to my students, my own kids were
fascinated with pyrotechnics.  I would make the
thermite from the aluminum and iron oxide powders,
and a family project would be to use it to burn
out ground hornets.  First, bags of napalm, made
by dissolving polystyrene (McDonald's cups) in
gasoline, were placed on the nest.  Then a cup
of thermite was put on top of the napalm.
Finally a strip of Mg would be inserted
into the thermite and lit.

Destroying large paper bald-faced hornet nests
in trees was much more mundane:  The kids would
aim their shotguns at the nest from several angles
and simultaneously fire.

Jack Smith



Re: [Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut

2008-08-25 Thread Harry Veeder

could that be frost?

harry



on 25/8/08 1:47 pm, Horace Heffner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here are lightened versions of both before
 
 
 
 
 
 and after:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Horace Heffner
 http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
 
 
 
 
 



Re: [Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut

2008-08-25 Thread Horace Heffner


On Aug 25, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:



could that be frost?

harry



Could be, but it seems to me unlikely, given there is no frost on  
anything else. A very light morning frost does occur on the ground  
there at times.  If anything, the before picture looks like the  
ground is lighter, so it should have the frost.


Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/






Re: [Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut

2008-08-25 Thread leaking pen
unless the differeing heat exchange of the metal causes ot to build
frost from the vapor dissapearing from the ground.  ive seen that
effect with railings here in arizona in the dry dry winters.

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Aug 25, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:


 could that be frost?

 harry


 Could be, but it seems to me unlikely, given there is no frost on anything
 else. A very light morning frost does occur on the ground there at times.
  If anything, the before picture looks like the ground is lighter, so it
 should have the frost.

 Best regards,

 Horace Heffner
 http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/








Re: [Vo]:OT: Conspiracy preserving the Status Quo

2008-08-25 Thread R C Macaulay


The NIST has prepared their report on the collapse of bldg 7 of the world 
trade center.


NIST was funded 16 million dollars to prepare the report for posterity.

It is now on file.

Will it serve a useful purpose?

Not unless it is credible.

Richard