[Vo]:Give them an inch, they'll take a friggin' mile...

2008-11-10 Thread Taylor J. Smith

Hi All,

Ayn Rand hated the Communists.  If you want to see where
she was coming from, read

We the Living, a novel by Ayn Rand.  Published in 1936,
We the Living was Ayn Rand's first novel.

http://www.noblesoul.com/orc/books/rand/living/index.html 

Jack Smith

Jed Rothwell wrote:

I could be wrong is just what Rand and communists would
never say.  They thought their economic systems were
constructed on scientific principles.




[Vo]:Give them an inch, they'll take a friggin' mile...

2008-11-10 Thread Taylor J. Smith

Terry wrote:

And, yes, Greenspan admitted he FU.  He opened the gates
expecting the banks to protect themselves.  He misjudged
human greed.

Hi All,

Greenspan knew the extent of the thievery that was going
on.  He thought the Kondratieff upswing would hide it,
but too much was being stolen.

We are now in the position of a company that has suffered a
major embezzlement; but, in this case, thanks to Phil Gramm
and the other deregulators, what the theives did was legal.

However, we are still in a K. upswing.  All we have to
do is pour in capital.  Come on President Obama, spend
a trillion making jobs building windmills, etc.  And,
if oil hit $40/barrel by Christmas, don't blink.

Jack Smith





[Vo]:Why not here?

2008-11-10 Thread Jones Beene
There are many cities in the USA where the following kind of bicycle share 
system (NY Times site), or an e-bike variant (e-scooter or even Seqway), would 
work to some degree :

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/10/world/europe/10bike.html?_r=1oref=slogin

Unfortunately this system begs to be initially subsidized and standardized, and 
that is why it is almost unknown here.

It might not work as well here, as in Europe, since destinations tend to be 
more spread out, but if it lowered auto and taxi usage by even a few percent in 
the big cities, that helps. 

It could also work for plug-in e-bikes -- that is, if the theft issues could be 
solved with such tricks as RFID, along with increased video surveillance, which 
is being installed anyway. 

If municipal and police video-cams incorporated and recognized RFID then theft 
issues in many situations including ebikes could be mitigated. 

This is the ideal system for Federal government initial involvement and support 
- to set standards and encourage US manufacturers to benefit -- and then to get 
out of the way.

It is the marginal few percent on the supply/demand curve for fuel - the 
leading edge which makes a huge the difference in price, futures, and trends. 
A share-system could provide that lowering of demand for fuel by a few percent.

Jones


Re: [Vo]:Give them an inch, they'll take a friggin' mile...

2008-11-10 Thread R C Macaulay
And just to sweeteen the kitty, lets give an extra $140 billion in tax 
breaks to the banks. Like Smith Barney said.. we earned it!

Paulson only did what he's very good at.. being slick as silk.
It takes a particular type to be a banker.. ever notice ?
Richard


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Subject: [Vo]:Give them an inch, they'll take a friggin' mile...




Terry wrote:

And, yes, Greenspan admitted he FU.  He opened the gates
expecting the banks to protect themselves.  He misjudged
human greed.

Hi All,

Greenspan knew the extent of the thievery that was going
on.  He thought the Kondratieff upswing would hide it,
but too much was being stolen.

We are now in the position of a company that has suffered a
major embezzlement; but, in this case, thanks to Phil Gramm
and the other deregulators, what the theives did was legal.

However, we are still in a K. upswing.  All we have to
do is pour in capital.  Come on President Obama, spend
a trillion making jobs building windmills, etc.  And,
if oil hit $40/barrel by Christmas, don't blink.

Jack Smith










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Re: [Vo]:Give them an inch, they'll take a friggin' mile...

2008-11-10 Thread Jed Rothwell

Taylor J. Smith wrote:


Ayn Rand hated the Communists.  If you want to see where
she was coming from, read


Yes, she hated them, yet she strongly resembled them. That's my 
point. Both were extremists. Both put their theories about human 
nature ahead of actual observations and experience. Both were blinded 
by the beauty of a doctrine and could not see where it did not fit reality.


Many scientists and intellectuals suffer from these faults. 
Experimentalists are less prone to it than theorists, I think. It was 
T. H. Huxley, the great experimentalist, who said: Science is 
organized common sense where many a beautiful theory was killed by an 
ugly fact.


Pragmatists and experimentalists have what I consider a healthy 
distrust of theory.


- Jed



[Vo]:Letter uploaded -- maybe the Obama network will help

2008-11-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
As I noted here, I uploaded my letter to Obama to the letter to the 
administration transition site. I also sent it to various young 
people I know who worked on the campaign. They were happy to forward 
it. Plus I put it in the news section:


http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm

It is a shot in the dark, like buying a lottery ticket.

Who knows, we might get a viral response going, within the massive 
Obama e-mail network.


The size  power of Obama's e-mail network is astounding. This was 
kept confidential during the campaign, but he has approximately ~11 
million names of supporters. See:


http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/382337

As this article says, the power of this network cuts both ways. It 
enhances his power, but it might also inhibit it. It also 
communicates in both directions (to some extent), which is why I 
think there is a chance we can raise people's awareness of cold 
fusion via this link.


Interesting quotes from article:

The same paragraph cites senior aides, however, to report that the 
list is so financially valuable that it was briefly offered as loan 
collateral during a cash-flow crunch. A source in a position to 
know also told me that the email list has reached eleven million people.


So how did this information go from the Democratic Party's best kept 
secret to an announcement in The Washington Post?


Because now, Obama's team wants everyone to know. The massive list of 
energized activists is the biggest stick Obama will carry in Washington.


It enables direct communication at a remarkable scale. The next 
President can instantly address 16 percent of his national 
supporters, based on the popular vote. To put it another way, the 
list dwarfs the audience of all the nightly cable news shows combined.


. . .

Obama's email network is especially intriguing for governance, 
however, because it has the potential of acting as both his most 
powerful grassroots tool and the most visible check on a President at 
the helm of one-party government.


Conservatives should be pleased with that. Nothing stop them from contributing.

Despite the tremendous population of the U.S., it is now possible for 
an administration to be more aware of and in touch with the concerns 
of the citizens than at any time in the past. Even a population of 20 
million (mid-19th century) would be too large for a president to 
learn much about individual views, but with Internet technology an 
administration can learn a great deal about the country. This does 
not have to be limited to merely responding to polls or the latest 
fad or fear. It can go much deeper. Corporations are learning to 
respond to their customer needs by looking closely at e-mail and 
Internet conversations. The government should do this too.


- Jed



[Vo]:Ozone Bulb/ Steam Condensation Research

2008-11-10 Thread Harvey Norris
According to John Ellis, using an ozone bulb across the steam generated in a 
condensation still type set-up used for distillation results in a shifted 
molecular bond between hydrogen and oxygen water molecules impregnated as the 
new bond angle made after recombination into liquid state from a former gaseous 
steam state; with the additional influence of the UV wavelength used by these 
germicidal type bulbs to be present initially before the phase change from 
gaseous steam to liquid water taking place upon cooling. Typical ozone bubbling 
techniques to produce ozonated water shows a rather quick dimunition of ozone 
present in the water, as it is presumably evaporated out. However the method 
here is to change the bonding angle of the condensated water molecule itself by 
influence of the UV light radiation which normally will produce airborne ozone 
when exposed to atmosphere by this blue type quartz bulb, but in this case its 
influence is limited by a
 pressurized steam flow. I am now engaged in producing samples of this product 
and wish to test it according to the hypothesized phase angle change of water 
made by this method. I have heard that it is practically impossible to test the 
phase angle thesis.   Will ship samples for others to test if they see a light 
at the end of the tunnel here.
Sincerely HDN 



Re: [Vo]:Ozone Bulb/ Steam Condensation Research

2008-11-10 Thread Mark S Bilk
Nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) may be able to determine the 
distance between the two hydrogen atoms of water molecules.
Any university chemistry lab should have the equipment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NMR

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_NMR

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 05:13:37PM -0800, Harvey Norris wrote:
According to John Ellis, using an ozone bulb across the steam generated in a 
condensation still type set-up used for distillation results in a shifted 
molecular bond between hydrogen and oxygen water molecules impregnated as the 
new bond angle made after recombination into liquid state from a former 
gaseous steam state; with the additional influence of the UV wavelength used 
by these germicidal type bulbs to be present initially before the phase change 
from gaseous steam to liquid water taking place upon cooling. Typical ozone 
bubbling techniques to produce ozonated water shows a rather quick dimunition 
of ozone present in the water, as it is presumably evaporated out. However the 
method here is to change the bonding angle of the condensated water molecule 
itself by influence of the UV light radiation which normally will produce 
airborne ozone when exposed to atmosphere by this blue type quartz bulb, but 
in this case its influence is limited by a
 pressurized steam flow. I am now engaged in producing samples of this product 
 and wish to test it according to the hypothesized phase angle change of water 
 made by this method. I have heard that it is practically impossible to test 
 the phase angle thesis.   Will ship samples for others to test if they see a 
 light at the end of the tunnel here.
Sincerely HDN