[Vo]:TEMPORARY BAN ON OFF-TOPIC DISCUSSIONS
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Rick Monteverde wrote: I respectfully request that everyone think before posting and stop rising to troll bait Let's just do the usual: move all the off-topic discussions to vortexB-L. It's time for a temporary ban on all off-topic discussions, most specifically a ban on anything involving politics or religion. Those who wish to discuss such things can do so: just use vortexB-L instead. I've susbscribed the vortex community to vortexB. If you DON'T want to receive any off-topic messages from vortexB, then send a blank message to vortexb-l-requ...@eskimo.com, and put the word Unsubscribe in the subject line. (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
[Vo]:send Bill B some money for putting up with a lot
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Re: [Vo]:Robert Duncan lecture info returns to U. Missouri web site
You need to update lenr-canr.org with this news. Harry - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:44 pm Subject: [Vo]:Robert Duncan lecture info returns to U. Missouri web site The title, abstract, video and slides magically reappeared. They were available after all! - Jed
[Vo]:Mylow's motor
From Kyle: Formally from: Manhunt in progress in Madison ...did anyone catch the latest in the MYLOW thing? Fishing wire and a hidden motor does some great stuff, eh? If anyone don't know what I'm saying, go to the PESWiki page on Mylow, and look under May 19 -- BUSTED. Sad, but I expected this. Yes, I caught the video. Both informative and amusing! You know how to string along a good story! It's a plausible explanation for the continuing Mylow saga. Personally, I'm not yet entirely convinced of Mylow's alleged duplicity in perpetuating a hoax, but then, his apparent lack of explaining himself, including the recent removal of all videos, is certainly not helping his self image. Oh well... on to the next topic. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
RE: [Vo]:send Bill B some money for putting up with a lot
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Re: [Vo]:send Bill B some money for putting up with a lot
Does anyone remember the Paypal or Amazon links to donate? Terry On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Rick Monteverde r...@highsurf.com wrote: Good call, Frank. - Rick From: fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:11 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:send Bill B some money for putting up with a lot I did. Huge savings on HDTVs from Dell.com!
Re: [Vo]:send Bill B some money for putting up with a lot
From Terry: Does anyone remember the Paypal or Amazon links to donate? Terry Does one exist? That would be the perfect solution for many. Hope details are forth coming. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:send Bill B some money for putting up with a lot
Good call, Frank. - Rick I would agree. Sometimes I wish Mr. Beaty was less modest about these matters and would send out a friendly reminder/suggestion, perhaps at the beginning of each year. There's nothing wrong with telling the Vort Collective that it costs money (presumably mostly Bill's money) to keep the service going. I just got paid today. Time for me to pay my rant money. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:send Bill B some money for putting up with a lot
Perhaps we remove vob and just institute a swear jar type thing. a buck fee for starting an ot post, a quarter per post you make within such a thread. On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:15 AM, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Good call, Frank. - Rick I would agree. Sometimes I wish Mr. Beaty was less modest about these matters and would send out a friendly reminder/suggestion, perhaps at the beginning of each year. There's nothing wrong with telling the Vort Collective that it costs money (presumably mostly Bill's money) to keep the service going. I just got paid today. Time for me to pay my rant money. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Robert Duncan lecture info returns to U. Missouri web site
Harry Veeder wrote: You need to update lenr-canr.org with this news. Yup. Plus I need to upload 2 papers. However, the Internet connection at my office has not been working since Saturday, and every day ATT says it will take another 2 days to fix it. It would be very inconvenient to update the web page from home but if I don't get service back by next week I will do it. It is surprising how unreliable telcom is these days. It used to be more reliable, but of course it cost much more and did infinitely less. Thirty years ago it cost $3 a minute to call Japan, for example. - Jed
[Vo]:2009 LANR (CF) Colloquium at MIT (Topic Update)
Update on the 2009 LANR/Cold Fusion Advanced Colloquium at MIT on June 20, 2009 Saturday Website: http://world.std.com/~mica/colloq09.html 2009 Colloquium on Lattice Assisted Nuclear Reactions ** (LANR; Cold Fusion) will be held at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Cambridge, MA) on Saturday, June 20, 2009. Engineering in LANR (Lattice Assisted Nuclear Reactions; Cold Fusion) Nuclear Lattice Coupling (Phonons, Quantum Electrodynamics) Deuteron and Palladium Flow in Loading and Codeposition Coherent Scattering and D-Flow in Pd1-xDx Metamaterial-Altered Electric fields and Impact on D-Flow Active Applied Voltage in Tardive Thermal Power (TTP) Optimal Operating Point and TTP Operation Electrode Irradiation, Emissions Non-Thermal IR emission and Bremsstrahlung shift Roles of Additional Applied Fields, Materials Transmutation Efforts, Issues and Mechanisms CR-39 Pit Resolution Equation and Ongoing Forensic Methods Electronic Equilibrium and Build up in CR-39 and other Materials Experimental issues (limitations, def. input power, excess heat) Uncertainty Principle in Data Acquisition Energy Production and Energy Conversion Limitations IP and Ongoing Issues == (**)This Colloquium is part of the continuing Lattice-Assisted Nuclear Reactions (Cold Fusion) Colloquia series, conducted to increase scientific/engineering education in this field since '91. Space is limited. Advanced registration is required. Further details will be forthcoming. If interested in contributing, please contact: Dr. Mitchell Swartzm...@theworld.com orcolloqu...@cherrytechnology.com
Re: [Vo]:Robert Duncan lecture info returns to U. Missouri web site
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Jed Rothwell wrote: The title, abstract, video and slides magically reappeared. They were available after all! Sounds like the Ning Li treatment. Oh, so you're entire lab was mysteriously emptied in the night, with all your equipment piled up in the hallway? And the news media found out, and raises a clamor? Well, we were just, uh, ...cleaning the room! Haven't you ever seen someone clean a lab before? It's clean now, so you can put all your equipment back. And then tell the reporters it was a false alarm. (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
[Vo]:The truth, the hype and the future
Cold Fusion Palladium - The truth, the hype and the future http://www.spykermetalnews.com/?p=173 http://www.spykermetalnews.com/?p=173 No doubt from an expert on hyping futures .
Re: [Vo]:Robert Duncan lecture info returns to U. Missouri web site
Bill, Some of us would like to help you with the cost of V. You once had an account via Amazon and/or a Paypal account. Would you please post that information again. It would make me feel a lot better about being the troll that I am. ;-) Terry On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 3:16 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009, Jed Rothwell wrote: The title, abstract, video and slides magically reappeared. They were available after all! Sounds like the Ning Li treatment. Oh, so you're entire lab was mysteriously emptied in the night, with all your equipment piled up in the hallway? And the news media found out, and raises a clamor? Well, we were just, uh, ...cleaning the room! Haven't you ever seen someone clean a lab before? It's clean now, so you can put all your equipment back. And then tell the reporters it was a false alarm. (( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
RE: [Vo]:send Bill B some money for putting up with a lot
I have an account on PayPal, so I just click Send Money and put Bill's email address in as the target. - Rick -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:10 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:send Bill B some money for putting up with a lot Does anyone remember the Paypal or Amazon links to donate? Terry On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Rick Monteverde r...@highsurf.com wrote: Good call, Frank. - Rick From: fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:11 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:send Bill B some money for putting up with a lot I did. Huge savings on HDTVs from Dell.com!
Re: [Vo]:China vs US
On Tue, 19 May 2009 17:42:48 -0700, you wrote: NOTHING is more ugly and violent than a capitalist which hasn't been fed bloodmeal and raw, dripping hamburger in the past few minutes. --- Nonsense. A true capitalist tries to perpetuate his model of reality by trying to retain and to further amass power by bringing competition into the fold or, if that's not successful, by bringing the competition to its knees, financially. And, then, providing for the needs of the vanquished. Your way, if you ally yourself with the likes of Hitler, Stalin, and Mao is to murder all of your detractors, no matter how softly they squeak. JF
[Vo]:Re:PEAR/ ICRL research
Hi Horace, The subject of parapsychology, as a science, but especially your proposed improvement(s) in detector design is fascinating. Thank you very much for sharing, and I for one agree with you 100% , the subject belongs right here, on this main forum. Your analysis was fascinating and I'm happy you posted it. I sure wish I knew how to build that which you described because I would drop everything and be right on it. Hopefully your suggestions will 'take', and eventually result in improvements or amplification of the ESP biofeedback games that teach or train in the development of ESP itself. I believe it is understatement to say that any improvement in the accuracy of our own inherent intuitions (our ESP) can if applied correctly, result in efficiency improvements in many fields of human interest. Colin
Re: [Vo]:send Bill B some money for putting up with a lot
From Rick, I have an account on PayPal, so I just click Send Money and put Bill's email address in as the target. This does appear to work. I hope Mr. Beaty experiences a modest uptick in his PayPal account within the next couple of days. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:Inversity
Only a fraction (appropriately) of vorticians will find this of interest... but hey, here's to fractional insight! As a reference, here is a provocative piece from holoscience: http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=6bcdajsb You can make up your own mind about its hollowness. For now, I am merely trying to pin down the originator of the concept of the fractional ground state. Some of the problem relates to semantics. For quite some time inverse ground states have been suggested. But with anything quantum, we are never sure precisely what this means - that is, if it does not intrinsically deny quantumness by its nature. The inverse of anything is generally the opposite, or the flip-side. It can be factional or not. In math - inverse is used in several distinct ways. There is an additive inverse of a value x, which is –x; the multiplicative inverse of x is 1/x (x^-1) and there is an inverse function which reverses the action of a given function: f–1(f(x)) = x. Then there is the gray area of fractions which are 1 but never integers. The fractional quantum Hall effect (FQHE) is a physical phenomenon in which charge is found which is not a complete integer of the elementary charge. Catch-22: it is often assumed by the Grand Poobahs of fizzix to be greater than one, and never less than one. Go figure. Of course, electron charge and electron orbital are different entities, and a fractional orbital is not necessarily fractionally charged (at least this is not the claim of the anti-poobah: R. Mills). Not too long ago, the same experts who today want you to accept that a fractional, or inverse, of the Bohr orbital is not possible as a stable entity, wanted you to believe that all charge came in whole integers. They had to eat crow on that one, to some extent, but they could possibly be closer to correct if fractional electron charge is always 1, or so they think. (there is a strained rationale in there somewhere) “Why is it that experts can sometimes be so entirely wrong, and yet so emphatic in their convictions? My own belief is that some of the reason lies in the success of principles of impotence, particularly in modern physics. Somehow it seems part of the scientific approach to postulate impotence.” —R V Jones, The Scientific Intelligencer Did Bohr and those who followed him simply adopt the “principle of impotence” in defining the “ground state” of the hydrogen atom? If so, it is no basis for emphatic denial of Randell Mills’ work. This is the point of the aforementioned holoscience piece. Nowadays the mainstream gives lip-service to FQHE, having awarded a Nobel for the discovery a few years back... but only after the evidence was overwhelming - and was essentially thrust into their collective faces. Fractional charge has been a dividing line in physics between the mainstream and the fringe since Millikan's shenanigans. Millikan was the former incarnation of Bob Park, yet with a functioning brain. Now the same revolution (new paradigm) in quantum fractional quantum ground states - is poised to happen with fractional or shrunken hydrogen. In fact, it could even be the inverse of hydrogen in an extra-dimensional context. But how long before the proof be as obvious and forthcoming as with FQHE? Is there a possible relationship between fractional charge and fractional orbital, and if so - could even RM the boy-genius have missed some of it? Fractionally yours, Jones Master of the Buckhounds, Lord Low Auditor, Groom of the Back Stairs, and Fractional Chief of Nothing Else ;-)
[Vo]:letter to Shirley Jackson
Vortexians; What you you think of this letter? Shirley Jackson, Ph D President Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Dear Dr. Jackson; I saw a broadcast of your address at the Bakken Museum on Twincities Public Television. You seem interested in innovation, so there are some matters that I'd like to bring to your attention. There is a basis in theoretical physics to believe that the zero point energy could be cohered to provide a pollution free source of energy. The quantum theorist Hal Puthoff of earthtech.org has coauthored a series of articles which were published in Physical Review. They speculate about the interaction of the ZPE and matter. It appears that the effect can be optimized by use of torsion field physics of Nicloi Kozyrev. Despite well documented replication of anomalous energy, in these experiments, the American Physical Society treats this technology like it doesn't exist. We have to self fund our experimental activities. Worse, there is also a well documented pattern of suppression of this technology. I will probably have to leave America in order to bring this technology to the market. I find this behavior inexplicable given the opposition which has been raised to our continued poisoning of the atmosphere with carbon dioxide. It's clear to me that we need a Manhattan Project sized effort in order to stop this poisoning of our environment. I have attempted to get a commitment from President Obama putting his administration on record as opposed to the continued suppression, in vain. It would seem to me that this is the least that they could do. Given your involvement with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, I'd also like to mention the suppression of the use of induced nuclear reactions. The website, lenr-carn.org has over 3000 papers, some in the form of synopsis, others in the form of a .pdf document. I realize that the experimental results are difficult to reproduce, and that so far, no usable energy has been produced. However in the 60 minutes segment on cold fusion the APS's representative took the standard party line, about not seeming to care about the experimental results, his mind having previously been made up. It's clear to me that if, following the experiment; you extract a metal which wasn't there before, and that metal has an isotopic spectrum containing a large amount of 2%'ers, isotopes which occur in nature in concentrations of less than 3%, that is anomalous. This anomaly doesn't seem to be clear to either Dr. Robert Park, or Dr. Zimmerman. While Dr. Park was initially reported to be contrite, following the 60 Minutes broadcast. Later he was later back spouting the party line, of voodoo science. Why am I not surprised? this is the APS's business as usual. I noted what appeared to be your support for that boondoggle at Yucca Mountain. I can just imagine the streaks of protest that would result if you attempted to bury that waste in the layer of basalt in northern Minnesota. I don't blame the people of Nevada one little big for opposing it. Particularly since the technology to render it nonradioactive was demonstrated over ten years ago. Dr. Park has yet to repent of his attacks on Dr. Randall Mills of Black Light Power, which in my opinion were as the basis of the recension of BLP's patent. This despite BLP's having sold licenses for it's technology. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
