Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

2014-10-03 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote:

There was this relevant detail in an NYT story about the man with Ebola who
 flew into Dallas: ...


To update the number of people who may have come into contact with the
fellow from West Africa with Ebola who flew into Dallas, it appears we're
talking about ~ 100 people rather than 12-18:

The Texas health commissioner, Dr. David Lakey, told reporters during an
 afternoon news conference that officials had encountered “a little bit of
 hesitancy” in seeking a firm to clean the apartment. ... The delay came
 amid reports that as many as 100 people could have had contact with the
 victim, Thomas E. Duncan. And it came a day after the hospital acknowledged
 it had misdiagnosed him when he first visited.


Apparently the apartment has not yet been disinfected, because Texas is
having trouble finding a contractor to do the work.  In light of the easy
spread of the flu in the US and with this story in mind, I find ready
assurances that Ebola will not spread in the US to be more aspirational
than descriptive.

Eric


Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

2014-10-03 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote:

Apparently the apartment has not yet been disinfected, because Texas is
 having trouble finding a contractor to do the work. ...


Some more interesting details from the article I forgot to link to [1]:

   - The number of ~ 100 people who may have come into contact with the
   fellow with Ebola does not include secondary contacts.
   - Hospitals may not necessarily dispose of waste material for Ebola
   patients due to conflicting guidance from different federal agencies, so it
   may just be allowed to pile up.
   - Family members of the fellow were directed to stay at home but
   violated the order.
   - A family member of the man who went with him to the hospital the first
   time claims that he emphatically told workers that he had been in Liberia.
   This piece of information was not passed to the doctors who diagnosed him
   and sent him home; apparently they were confident enough in the entrance
   examination that they saw no need to follow up with the question on their
   own (this sounds a lot like the doctors passing the hot potato on to the
   nurses to avoid blame).

Eric


[1]
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/us/dallas-ebola-case-thomas-duncan-contacts.html


Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart

2014-10-03 Thread frobertcook
A small diameter membrane to allow some internal radiation out seems like a 
nice feature in any test, which the professors would certainly consider.

In an good test one should expect to see such a feature.

The same should be expected for neutrons--a neutron window.

Bob



Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE SmartphoneBob Higgins 
rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote:
The 3.6 keV x-ray photons are easily detected with an x-ray spectrometer
such as the Amptek X-123SDD at
http://www.amptek.com/products/x-123sdd-complete-x-ray-spectrometer-with-silicon-drift-detector-sdd/
.  See their chart at this URL for the different window options that will
easily allow detection down to 1 keV:
http://www.amptek.com/products/c-series-low-energy-x-ray-windows/ .  I am
hoping to get one of these some day.

The bigger issue is that not much will make it out of the hotCat even if
that is the primary channel for conveying the heat.

In the case of RF, I would expect almost none to escape the hotCat because
the reaction is in a Faraday cage.  The RF that could penetrate would have
to be below 1 kHz.

Bob Higgins

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:


 Hoped for prediction – but unlikely due to technical limitations: evidence
 of the signature x-ray indicative of DDL/dark matter, in the range of 3.6
 keV.



 Since there is no commercial meter for this spectrum, the x-ray would have
 to show up in some other clever way, such as film exposure – thus it is
 unlikely.



 Jones









RE: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart

2014-10-03 Thread frobertcook
Does anyone have a number for a one quanta transition in spin energy in terms 
of IR wave length?

Is it near the 11microms Jones  has noted?

Bob Cook




Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE SmartphoneJones Beene 
jone...@pacbell.net wrote: 
There is another version which no one talks about any more, which is housed in 
silicon carbide. This ceramic version was the one Rossi described in his 
tribute to Focardi as the breakthrough leading to the HotCat, after which, it 
was never mentioned again.
 
I have been trying to find the reference for this, since Rossi apparently 
removed it from JoNP. E-Cat World still has the story of the Focardi tribute 
and the “incident at Brasimone” which at one time led me to believe that 
silicon carbide tubes were important.
 
http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/06/22/sergio-focardi-dies/
 
Rossi quote: See you soon, my great Friend and Master Sergio! I will never 
forget our work together and that day in the Brasimone Nuclear facility.
 
Apparently “that day” was when the HotCat first went operational. Rossi had 
said in the original story that the tube was silicon carbide, because that is 
what they had specialized in at Brasimone, ceramic plumbing for the Italian 
molten salt reactor.
 
There is a very good technical reason why SiC could be important – plasmon 
polaritons. SiC emits a nearly coherent blackbody level which is most unique 
and it is exactly the wavelength NASA says is important. It could be 
coincidental, or the reference could have been removed from JoNP because it 
gave away too much. This paper shows the sharp emission peak at ~11 microns 
Infrared properties of SiC particles Mutschke et al.
http://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/9903031.pdf
 
The plasmon/polariton connection to THz radiation in the far IR spectrum could 
be one key to robust LENR, as we seem to find in the HotCat. The paper by  
Hagelstein, Cravens and Letts includes some of the theory which would tie it 
all together with IR photons at 11 micron resonance.
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LettsDstimulatio.pdf
 
However, since no reference ever appeared again to SiC, and all of the new 
HotCats seem to show stainless steel exterior, perhaps this detail will remain 
a false alarm, or else a mystery which will unfold in a couple of weeks.
 
Jones
 
 

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart

2014-10-03 Thread Alain Sepeda
8)


wait a little.

2014-10-03 2:16 GMT+02:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:

 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:


 John – if COP of 6-10 is seen over an extended time period, much of the
 mainstream physics community will go into full apoplectic and anaphylactic
 shock. It may never recover from the embarrassment.


 I do not think the COP will make any difference. I do not think this
 report will have any effect on the scientific establishment, unless it is
 published in Nature. I am pretty sure it will not be in Nature!

 However, I think it may have a positive impact. It may shake loose more
 funding for the research. Funding is what we need most at this stage. Even
 more than recognition. Of course, with recognition would come funding, but
 also opposition which we do not need.

 If word gets out that cold fusion is now attracting tens of millions in
 research funding, then most of the academic opposition will vanish
 overnight. Researchers everywhere will be applying for grants to study it.
 As Stan Szpak says, scientists believe whatever you pay them to believe.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart

2014-10-03 Thread Bob Higgins
For an EM field to propagate, the electric and magnetic fields must be
coupled.  Once you stop the electric field, the magnetic field will also be
stopped.  At low enough frequencies, the penetration depth of the field
will allow some EM field to escape, attenuated by the propagation through
the metal.

Even if SiC was used for the tubes, it would block most RF as SiC ceramic
is a conductor, but a poor one.  SiC is an expensive ceramic to make in the
size of the hotCat and if Rossi were using this, it would probably price
his hotCat out of the market for home devices.  I don't believe he is using
SiC in his hotCat - I believe the reactor core is stainless steel (as the
Penon report describes) welded closed at the ends of the coaxial tubes.
That doesn't mean he hasn't experimented with SiC.  SiC is very hard to
machine and it would be challenging and expensive to produce a coaxial
reactor vessel (as shown in the Penon report) and seal its ends.

Bob Higgins

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 NMR is caused by the vibration of the non-zero spin vector of a nucleus.
 This vibrating nuclear spin produces a vibrating magnetic field.

 The point of a Faraday cage is that it's made of a conductor, which
 responds to electric fields. Both a strong magnetostatic (DC) and Ac fields
 are different, and will barely be affected by the Faraday cage. (The cage
 may have some magnetic properties, but that's not what makes it a Faraday
 cage, and it's unlikely to have a significant impact on magnetic fields.)

 On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I have posted the cross-section of the hotCat as I have surmised it to be
 constructed.  The active medium is entirely in a hermetically sealed
 stainless coaxial tube arrangement.  The reactor vessel itself IS the
 Faraday cage.  It is not a part of the test, it is a part of the hotCat.

 Bob Higgins

 On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 How do you know that a faraday cage is part of the test?

 On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The 3.6 keV x-ray photons are easily detected with an x-ray
 spectrometer such as the Amptek X-123SDD at
 http://www.amptek.com/products/x-123sdd-complete-x-ray-spectrometer-with-silicon-drift-detector-sdd/
 .  See their chart at this URL for the different window options that will
 easily allow detection down to 1 keV:
 http://www.amptek.com/products/c-series-low-energy-x-ray-windows/ .  I
 am hoping to get one of these some day.

 The bigger issue is that not much will make it out of the hotCat even
 if that is the primary channel for conveying the heat.

 In the case of RF, I would expect almost none to escape the hotCat
 because the reaction is in a Faraday cage.  The RF that could penetrate
 would have to be below 1 kHz.





Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart

2014-10-03 Thread Bob Higgins
I seriously doubt that in the TPT the experimenters would have been allowed
to modify the hotCat.  A membrane would have provided a continuous leak
to the limited supply of H2 inside the hotCat; however, a thin area window
would suffice if they could modify it.  If the reaction produces high
energy gamma, it will come right through the vessel, attenuated by the mass
per square cm of the reactor vessel.  So you don't need a window for high
energy gamma.  However, we know that high energy gamma cannot be the
primary carrier of the heat because too much of the energy would escape the
reactor vessel, and it would be dangerous to be around and easily
measured.  Low energy gamma (below 25 keV) may be a primary carrier of the
heat because it would be highly attenuated by the reactor vessel (and thus
thermalized).  Measuring low energy gamma is difficult because it doesn't
escape easily.  To measure this, you either need to create a sensor that
can be placed inside the reactor (and it would have to work with at the
hotCat's high temperature); OR, you need to make your reactor vessel thin
in a small spot (a window); OR, make your reactor vessel small, so that the
whole containment vessel can be thin (this is what I am doing).

Neutrons don't need a window - they will just come through.  If the heat
were carried by neutrons, the reactor vessel would not get hot because
there is not enough mass and capture cross-section there to stop
(thermalize) them.  The neutrons would just be killing everyone around the
reactor.  Any few neutrons detected externally are definitely a useful clue
about internal reactions, but fortunately few neutrons are ever detected.

Bob Higgins

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:57 AM, frobertcook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

  A small diameter membrane to allow some internal radiation out seems
 like a nice feature in any test, which the professors would certainly
 consider.

  In an good test one should expect to see such a feature.

  The same should be expected for neutrons--a neutron window.

  Bob



[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart

2014-10-03 Thread hohlr...@gmail.com
Isn't that the same as fully ionized H? 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Fartphone

- Reply message -
From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart
Date: Thu, Oct 2, 2014 11:49 PM

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:

I predict a CoP of 2.6 and that the reactor accumulates a high

positive charge even to the point of occasionally arcing to it's

frame.  (Actually, the arc path is from the frame to the reactor.)


Just curious -- why the accumulation of positive charge?

Eric

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart

2014-10-03 Thread Eric Walker



 On Oct 3, 2014, at 7:28, hohlr...@gmail.com hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Isn't that the same as fully ionized H? 

 
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Fartphone
 
 - Reply message -
 From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Subject: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart
 Date: Thu, Oct 2, 2014 11:49 PM
 
 On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I predict a CoP of 2.6 and that the reactor accumulates a high
 positive charge even to the point of occasionally arcing to it's
 frame.  (Actually, the arc path is from the frame to the reactor.)
 
 Just curious -- why the accumulation of positive charge?
 
 Eric
 


Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart

2014-10-03 Thread Eric Walker

 On Oct 3, 2014, at 7:28, hohlr...@gmail.com hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Isn't that the same as fully ionized H?

The ionized electrons have to go somewhere when they're stripped from the H.

Eric

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart

2014-10-03 Thread Axil Axil
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://aip.org/tip/INPHFA/vol-7/iss-5/p24.pdf

*How does magnetic shielding work?*
All EMI shielding materials are manufac-
tured from high-permeability alloys that con-
tain about 80% nickel; the alloys vary in the
composition of their remaining metals. They
are usually fabricated as foils or sheets and
are baked at 2,000 °F in a dry hydrogen-rich
atmosphere to anneal them. Annealing sig-
nificantly improves a material’s attenuation,
that is, its ability to absorb and redirect mag-
netic fields.

A shielding alloy works by diverting a
magnetic flux into itself. The alloy redirects
the magnetic flux away from the sensitive
object and returns it to the north–south
field. Although the field from a magnet is
greatly reduced by a shield plate, the protec-
tive alloy itself is attracted to the magnet,
but with no ill effects. Closed shapes are the
most efficient for magnetic shielding—cylin-
ders with caps, boxes with covers, and simi-
lar enclosed shapes are the most effective
(see figure).

Magnetic shielding materials offer a very-
high-permeability path for magnetic field
lines to travel through, directing them
through the thickness of the shielding alloy
and keeping them from going where they
are not wanted. It is important that the
shield should offer a complete path for the
field lines, so that they do not exit the mate-
rial in a place where they will cause unin-
tended interference.

*What is the difference between RF shield -*
*ing and magnetic shielding?*

Ra d i o-frequency (RF) shielding is
required when it is necessary to block high-
frequency (100 kHz and above) interference
fields. RF shields typically use copper, alu-
minum, galvanized steel, or conductive rub-
b e r, plastic, or paints. These materials work
at high frequencies by means of their high
c o n d u c t i v i t y. Unlike magnetic shields that
use their high permeability to attract mag-
netic fields, RF shielding has little or no
magnetic permeability. However, when they
are properly engineered and constructed,
magnetic-shield alloys become broadband
shields that protect against both EMI and
RF interference.

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:

 For an EM field to propagate, the electric and magnetic fields must be
 coupled.  Once you stop the electric field, the magnetic field will also be
 stopped.  At low enough frequencies, the penetration depth of the field
 will allow some EM field to escape, attenuated by the propagation through
 the metal.

 Even if SiC was used for the tubes, it would block most RF as SiC ceramic
 is a conductor, but a poor one.  SiC is an expensive ceramic to make in the
 size of the hotCat and if Rossi were using this, it would probably price
 his hotCat out of the market for home devices.  I don't believe he is using
 SiC in his hotCat - I believe the reactor core is stainless steel (as the
 Penon report describes) welded closed at the ends of the coaxial tubes.
 That doesn't mean he hasn't experimented with SiC.  SiC is very hard to
 machine and it would be challenging and expensive to produce a coaxial
 reactor vessel (as shown in the Penon report) and seal its ends.

 Bob Higgins

 On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 NMR is caused by the vibration of the non-zero spin vector of a nucleus.
 This vibrating nuclear spin produces a vibrating magnetic field.

 The point of a Faraday cage is that it's made of a conductor, which
 responds to electric fields. Both a strong magnetostatic (DC) and Ac fields
 are different, and will barely be affected by the Faraday cage. (The cage
 may have some magnetic properties, but that's not what makes it a Faraday
 cage, and it's unlikely to have a significant impact on magnetic fields.)

 On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I have posted the cross-section of the hotCat as I have surmised it to
 be constructed.  The active medium is entirely in a hermetically sealed
 stainless coaxial tube arrangement.  The reactor vessel itself IS the
 Faraday cage.  It is not a part of the test, it is a part of the hotCat.

 Bob Higgins

 On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 How do you know that a faraday cage is part of the test?

 On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The 3.6 keV x-ray photons are easily detected with an x-ray
 spectrometer such as the Amptek X-123SDD at
 http://www.amptek.com/products/x-123sdd-complete-x-ray-spectrometer-with-silicon-drift-detector-sdd/
 .  See their chart at this URL for the different window options that will
 easily allow detection down to 1 keV:
 http://www.amptek.com/products/c-series-low-energy-x-ray-windows/ .
 I am hoping to get one of these some day.

 The bigger issue is that not much will make it out of the hotCat even
 if that is the primary channel for conveying the heat.

 In the case of RF, I 

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart

2014-10-03 Thread Bob Higgins
Yes Axil, I am an RF engineer and I am aware of permalloy/supermalloy
sheets used in EMI protection.  These materials are added in sensitive
instrument applications to shunt low frequency evanescent magnetic fields,
not propagating RF EM fields.  As I said, RF fields above about 1 kHz would
be prevented from escaping from Rossi's hotCat by the hermetic stainless
steel reactor enclosure acting as a Faraday cage.  There will be no
propagating RF escaping from the Rossi's reactor vessel.  There is only the
possibility of low frequency evanescent fields escaping.

Bob Higgins

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://aip.org/tip/INPHFA/vol-7/iss-5/p24.pdf

 *How does magnetic shielding work?*
 All EMI shielding materials are manufac-
 tured from high-permeability alloys that con-
 tain about 80% nickel; the alloys vary in the
 composition of their remaining metals. They
 are usually fabricated as foils or sheets and
 are baked at 2,000 °F in a dry hydrogen-rich
 atmosphere to anneal them. Annealing sig-
 nificantly improves a material’s attenuation,
 that is, its ability to absorb and redirect mag-
 netic fields.

 A shielding alloy works by diverting a
 magnetic flux into itself. The alloy redirects
 the magnetic flux away from the sensitive
 object and returns it to the north–south
 field. Although the field from a magnet is
 greatly reduced by a shield plate, the protec-
 tive alloy itself is attracted to the magnet,
 but with no ill effects. Closed shapes are the
 most efficient for magnetic shielding—cylin-
 ders with caps, boxes with covers, and simi-
 lar enclosed shapes are the most effective
 (see figure).

 Magnetic shielding materials offer a very-
 high-permeability path for magnetic field
 lines to travel through, directing them
 through the thickness of the shielding alloy
 and keeping them from going where they
 are not wanted. It is important that the
 shield should offer a complete path for the
 field lines, so that they do not exit the mate-
 rial in a place where they will cause unin-
 tended interference.

 *What is the difference between RF shield -*
 *ing and magnetic shielding?*

 Ra d i o-frequency (RF) shielding is
 required when it is necessary to block high-
 frequency (100 kHz and above) interference
 fields. RF shields typically use copper, alu-
 minum, galvanized steel, or conductive rub-
 b e r, plastic, or paints. These materials work
 at high frequencies by means of their high
 c o n d u c t i v i t y. Unlike magnetic shields that
 use their high permeability to attract mag-
 netic fields, RF shielding has little or no
 magnetic permeability. However, when they
 are properly engineered and constructed,
 magnetic-shield alloys become broadband
 shields that protect against both EMI and
 RF interference.



Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart

2014-10-03 Thread Axil Axil
Dear Bob

Unlike myself, it is great that you are an expert in this subject that
greatly interests me.

Please address this issue.  Unlike the usual RF shielding applications
using stainless steel, the Hot-Cat reaches 1000C without active heat
removal.

Bearing in mind that RF shielding protection is a function of the
conductivity of the metal, the electrical resistance of stainless steel is
a increasing function of temperature. How much RF protection is lost in a
1000C stainless steel faraday cage as a function of the increasing
temperature of stainless steel.

http://www.aksteel.com/pdf/markets_products/stainless/austenitic/304_304L_Data_Sheet.pdf

Electrical Resistivity of 304 stainless in

(microhm-cm)

68°F (20°C) – 28.4 (72)

1200°F (659°C) – 45.8 (116)


On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Yes Axil, I am an RF engineer and I am aware of permalloy/supermalloy
 sheets used in EMI protection.  These materials are added in sensitive
 instrument applications to shunt low frequency evanescent magnetic fields,
 not propagating RF EM fields.  As I said, RF fields above about 1 kHz would
 be prevented from escaping from Rossi's hotCat by the hermetic stainless
 steel reactor enclosure acting as a Faraday cage.  There will be no
 propagating RF escaping from the Rossi's reactor vessel.  There is only the
 possibility of low frequency evanescent fields escaping.

 Bob Higgins


 On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://aip.org/tip/INPHFA/vol-7/iss-5/p24.pdf

 *How does magnetic shielding work?*
 All EMI shielding materials are manufac-
 tured from high-permeability alloys that con-
 tain about 80% nickel; the alloys vary in the
 composition of their remaining metals. They
 are usually fabricated as foils or sheets and
 are baked at 2,000 °F in a dry hydrogen-rich
 atmosphere to anneal them. Annealing sig-
 nificantly improves a material’s attenuation,
 that is, its ability to absorb and redirect mag-
 netic fields.

 A shielding alloy works by diverting a
 magnetic flux into itself. The alloy redirects
 the magnetic flux away from the sensitive
 object and returns it to the north–south
 field. Although the field from a magnet is
 greatly reduced by a shield plate, the protec-
 tive alloy itself is attracted to the magnet,
 but with no ill effects. Closed shapes are the
 most efficient for magnetic shielding—cylin-
 ders with caps, boxes with covers, and simi-
 lar enclosed shapes are the most effective
 (see figure).

 Magnetic shielding materials offer a very-
 high-permeability path for magnetic field
 lines to travel through, directing them
 through the thickness of the shielding alloy
 and keeping them from going where they
 are not wanted. It is important that the
 shield should offer a complete path for the
 field lines, so that they do not exit the mate-
 rial in a place where they will cause unin-
 tended interference.

 *What is the difference between RF shield -*
 *ing and magnetic shielding?*

 Ra d i o-frequency (RF) shielding is
 required when it is necessary to block high-
 frequency (100 kHz and above) interference
 fields. RF shields typically use copper, alu-
 minum, galvanized steel, or conductive rub-
 b e r, plastic, or paints. These materials work
 at high frequencies by means of their high
 c o n d u c t i v i t y. Unlike magnetic shields that
 use their high permeability to attract mag-
 netic fields, RF shielding has little or no
 magnetic permeability. However, when they
 are properly engineered and constructed,
 magnetic-shield alloys become broadband
 shields that protect against both EMI and
 RF interference.




Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart

2014-10-03 Thread Axil Axil
Free electrons and those produced by heat induced dipole charge separation
will be confined to the Surface Plasmon Polaritons (SPP - electron photon
hybrid particles) solitons at the tips of the nickel nanowires and also
between the solid crystal hydrogen Rydberg matter nano-particles as SPP
solitons.

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Oct 3, 2014, at 7:28, hohlr...@gmail.com hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Isn't that the same as fully ionized H?


 The ionized electrons have to go somewhere when they're stripped from the
 H.

 Eric



Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

2014-10-03 Thread James Bowery
Finally!

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-symptoms-prompt-hospitals-to-brace-for-patients-amid-flu-season/

Hospitals brace for patients with Ebola worries
People hear about flu symptoms, they're not paying attention, they haven't
been near anybody with Ebola or in an Ebola country, they haven't had fluid
contact, they're just nervous, so they show up, said Dr. Arthur Caplan, a
medical ethics expert at New York University Langone Medical Center.

It means more stressed-out workers, he said. It means more
contagiousness of the flu -- sitting together in a hospital.

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:07 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:


 ... It is not possible to tell at an early stage without extensive
 testing


 And:

 1) They are shedding virus during this stage
 2) There has been no mention of flu season in CDC documents about Ebola


 Of course they are concerned about the similarity! They have discussed
 this in the news. They recommended everyone get a vaccination, as I just
 said.


 Good.  URL?  I've been searching on Google news for weeks to no avail.




 3) Let alone a model put forth of the impact of this on containment.


 Do you think the public would understand the model? Do you expect them to
 work a miracle by coming up with a magic method of instantly determining it
 is ebola?


 I expect them to modify their containment economics model not for the
 public but for funding agencies and other mobilizations.



[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart

2014-10-03 Thread hohlr...@gmail.com
The entirety of their inertial mass is distributed via spin coupling. Or maybe 
not.

- Reply message -
From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart
Date: Fri, Oct 3, 2014 11:03 AM

The ionized electrons have to go somewhere when they're stripped from the H.

Eric

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

2014-10-03 Thread Brad Lowe
Now it turns out this patient #1 knew he was infected.. and just
wanted world-class, spare-no-expense treatment in the US. I can't
blame him.
Time to cancel travel visas and ban non-humanitarian travel from
infected countries.
Some interesting tips and info at this site..  http://ebolaready.com/


On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:36 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wrote:

 Apparently the apartment has not yet been disinfected, because Texas is
 having trouble finding a contractor to do the work. ...


 Some more interesting details from the article I forgot to link to [1]:

 The number of ~ 100 people who may have come into contact with the fellow
 with Ebola does not include secondary contacts.
 Hospitals may not necessarily dispose of waste material for Ebola patients
 due to conflicting guidance from different federal agencies, so it may just
 be allowed to pile up.
 Family members of the fellow were directed to stay at home but violated the
 order.
 A family member of the man who went with him to the hospital the first time
 claims that he emphatically told workers that he had been in Liberia.  This
 piece of information was not passed to the doctors who diagnosed him and
 sent him home; apparently they were confident enough in the entrance
 examination that they saw no need to follow up with the question on their
 own (this sounds a lot like the doctors passing the hot potato on to the
 nurses to avoid blame).

 Eric


 [1]
 http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/us/dallas-ebola-case-thomas-duncan-contacts.html



Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart

2014-10-03 Thread Axil Axil
The interesting thing about polaritons is that the constituent
electrons lose most of their mass when the SPPs become entangled with
photons. The polariton has just 10^^-11 times the mass of the electron that
forms it.

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM, hohlr...@gmail.com hohlr...@gmail.com
wrote:


 The entirety of their inertial mass is distributed via spin coupling. Or
 maybe not.

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 Date: Fri, Oct 3, 2014 11:03 AM




 The ionized electrons have to go somewhere when they're stripped from the
 H.

 Eric



Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

2014-10-03 Thread Axil Axil
The US is susceptible to a Ebola outbreak because a large percentage of the
population is health care adverse. This grope of poor people has no health
insurance or cannot afford the expense of a long term hospital stay because
of sickness. This substantial segment of the population will ignore a high
fever hoping that the fever will abate eventually.

Furthermore, the US hospital system has a low carrying capacity for Ebola
victims because each hospital as just one or two isolation rooms available
to confine new Ebola patents.

There is a limit to the number of patients that the health system can
support. Once the epidemic grows beyond that limit, total isolation of the
sick is no longer possible with most victims roaming the streets as happens
in Africa.

A possible Ebola epidemic is one possible cost for society not providing a
single payer government supported health care system.





On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Brad Lowe ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now it turns out this patient #1 knew he was infected.. and just
 wanted world-class, spare-no-expense treatment in the US. I can't
 blame him.
 Time to cancel travel visas and ban non-humanitarian travel from
 infected countries.
 Some interesting tips and info at this site..  http://ebolaready.com/


 On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:36 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I wrote:
 
  Apparently the apartment has not yet been disinfected, because Texas is
  having trouble finding a contractor to do the work. ...
 
 
  Some more interesting details from the article I forgot to link to [1]:
 
  The number of ~ 100 people who may have come into contact with the fellow
  with Ebola does not include secondary contacts.
  Hospitals may not necessarily dispose of waste material for Ebola
 patients
  due to conflicting guidance from different federal agencies, so it may
 just
  be allowed to pile up.
  Family members of the fellow were directed to stay at home but violated
 the
  order.
  A family member of the man who went with him to the hospital the first
 time
  claims that he emphatically told workers that he had been in Liberia.
 This
  piece of information was not passed to the doctors who diagnosed him and
  sent him home; apparently they were confident enough in the entrance
  examination that they saw no need to follow up with the question on their
  own (this sounds a lot like the doctors passing the hot potato on to the
  nurses to avoid blame).
 
  Eric
 
 
  [1]
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/us/dallas-ebola-case-thomas-duncan-contacts.html




[Vo]:majorana-fermions

2014-10-03 Thread Axil Axil
http://phys.org/news/2014-10-majorana-fermion-physicists-elusive-particle.html



Majorana fermion: Physicists observe elusive particle that is its own
antiparticle


What is a particle anyway? Are these majorana-fermions actually solitons?
Could this particle be a topological knot in a EMF spin liquid? How would
we distinguish the EMF field emanations of a SPP soliton from that of a
majorana-fermion? Are magnetic monopoles really majorana-fermions. Could
what these researchers have found really be a SPP soliton that just look
like a majorana-fermions?

It seems that majorana-fermions are formed at the tips of superconducting
nanowire. All thin nanowire (AKA one dimensional) are superconducting.
Could majorana-fermions be formed at the tips of hydrogen crystal nanowires
or at the ends of the water crystals that LeClair has seen his cavatation
experiments? Could majorana-fermions be an important factor in LENR.


[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

2014-10-03 Thread hohlr...@gmail.com
In the movie Contagion, large public arenas are converted into triage and 
containment facilities.

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Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

2014-10-03 Thread H Veeder
This was written in august before the current case of Ebola in the United
Sates but it compares Ebola to other diseases which spread more easily.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/05/ebola-worrying-disease

quote
Far more worrying are diseases that spread exponentially: if one infected
person spreads the disease to two or more on average, the illness spreads
far quicker and is a much more worrying prospect, even if mortality is
considerably lower.

The 800-plus deaths from Ebola in Africa so far this year are indisputably
tragic, but it is important to keep a sense of proportion – other
infectious diseases are far, far deadlier.

Since the Ebola outbreak began in February, around 300,000 people have
died from
malaria http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs094/en/, while
tuberculosis http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs104/en/ has
likely claimed over 600,000 lives. Ebola might have our attention, but it’s
not even close to being the biggest problem in Africa right now. Even Lassa
fever http://www.who.int/csr/disease/lassafever/en/, which shares many of
the terrifying symptoms of Ebola (including bleeding from the eyelids),
kills many more than Ebola – and frequently finds its way to the US
http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2014/p0404-lassa-fever.html.

The most real effect for millions of people reading about Ebola will be
fear and stigma. During the Sars outbreak of 2003, Asian-Americans became
the targets of just that, with public health hotlines inundated with calls
from Americans worried about “buying Asian merchandise”, “living near
Asians”, “going to school with Asians”, and more.

In the coming months, almost none of us will catch the Ebola virus. Many of
us, though, will get fevers, headaches, shivers and more.

As planes get grounded, communities are stigmatised, and mildly sick people
fear for their lives, it’s worth reflecting what the biggest threat to our
collective wellbeing is: rare tropical diseases, or our terrible coverage
of them.

Harry

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wrote:

  In the movie Contagion, large public arenas are converted into triage
 and containment facilities.
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 Date: Fri, Oct 3, 2014 2:44 PM






Re: [Vo]:majorana-fermions

2014-10-03 Thread Alan Fletcher


At 12:57 PM 10/3/2014, Axil Axil wrote:

It seems that majorana-fermions are
formed at the tips of superconducting nanowire. 
If you brought the tips of two nanowires together, would the two
majoranas annihilate each other?





Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart

2014-10-03 Thread Bob Higgins
Normally the resistivity of a metal is linear in degrees Kelvin.  So, going
from 300K to 1300K would cause a metal's resistance to increase by 1300/300
or a factor of 4.3.  The RF skin depth will increase as the square root of
this change or about 2.  So, the leakage out of this Faraday cage will
about double in amplitude (6 dB).  In an ideal Faraday cage (ideal
conductor), all of the RF is reflected back into the interior, none leaks
out, and none is absorbed.  In a real metal Faraday cage, most of the
signal is reflected, the signal is attenuated substantially in going from
inside to outside, and some of the power is absorbed in the metal.  The
amount that leaks out is proportional to the number of skin depths in
thickness of the Faraday cage metal.  The skin depth is 1/sqrt(pi F mu
sigma), so it is inversely proportional to the square root of frequency.
High frequencies have small skin depth and hence, the metal thickness being
more skin depths in thickness, the signal transmitted is more attenuated
going through the metal.  Thus, low frequencies with big skin depths
penetrate better and high RF frequencies penetrate less.  That is why I
said that it is unlikely that high RF frequencies would escape in a
measurable way - given the thickness of the reactor metal (probably on the
order of 1.5mm) above 100 kHz would probably be considered high frequency.
And, as previously stated, about 6dB more will come out at 1000C than at
room temp.

Bob Higgins

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Bob

 Unlike myself, it is great that you are an expert in this subject that
 greatly interests me.

 Please address this issue.  Unlike the usual RF shielding applications
 using stainless steel, the Hot-Cat reaches 1000C without active heat
 removal.

 Bearing in mind that RF shielding protection is a function of the
 conductivity of the metal, the electrical resistance of stainless steel is
 a increasing function of temperature. How much RF protection is lost in a
 1000C stainless steel faraday cage as a function of the increasing
 temperature of stainless steel.


 http://www.aksteel.com/pdf/markets_products/stainless/austenitic/304_304L_Data_Sheet.pdf

 Electrical Resistivity of 304 stainless in

 (microhm-cm)

 68°F (20°C) – 28.4 (72)

 1200°F (659°C) – 45.8 (116)


 On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Yes Axil, I am an RF engineer and I am aware of permalloy/supermalloy
 sheets used in EMI protection.  These materials are added in sensitive
 instrument applications to shunt low frequency evanescent magnetic fields,
 not propagating RF EM fields.  As I said, RF fields above about 1 kHz would
 be prevented from escaping from Rossi's hotCat by the hermetic stainless
 steel reactor enclosure acting as a Faraday cage.  There will be no
 propagating RF escaping from the Rossi's reactor vessel.  There is only the
 possibility of low frequency evanescent fields escaping.

 Bob Higgins


 On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://aip.org/tip/INPHFA/vol-7/iss-5/p24.pdf

 *How does magnetic shielding work?*
 All EMI shielding materials are manufac-
 tured from high-permeability alloys that con-
 tain about 80% nickel; the alloys vary in the
 composition of their remaining metals. They
 are usually fabricated as foils or sheets and
 are baked at 2,000 °F in a dry hydrogen-rich
 atmosphere to anneal them. Annealing sig-
 nificantly improves a material’s attenuation,
 that is, its ability to absorb and redirect mag-
 netic fields.

 A shielding alloy works by diverting a
 magnetic flux into itself. The alloy redirects
 the magnetic flux away from the sensitive
 object and returns it to the north–south
 field. Although the field from a magnet is
 greatly reduced by a shield plate, the protec-
 tive alloy itself is attracted to the magnet,
 but with no ill effects. Closed shapes are the
 most efficient for magnetic shielding—cylin-
 ders with caps, boxes with covers, and simi-
 lar enclosed shapes are the most effective
 (see figure).

 Magnetic shielding materials offer a very-
 high-permeability path for magnetic field
 lines to travel through, directing them
 through the thickness of the shielding alloy
 and keeping them from going where they
 are not wanted. It is important that the
 shield should offer a complete path for the
 field lines, so that they do not exit the mate-
 rial in a place where they will cause unin-
 tended interference.

 *What is the difference between RF shield -*
 *ing and magnetic shielding?*

 Ra d i o-frequency (RF) shielding is
 required when it is necessary to block high-
 frequency (100 kHz and above) interference
 fields. RF shields typically use copper, alu-
 minum, galvanized steel, or conductive rub-
 b e r, plastic, or paints. These materials work
 at high frequencies by means of their high
 c o n d u c t i v i t y. Unlike