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I wrote: There was this relevant detail in an NYT story about the man with Ebola who flew into Dallas: ... To update the number of people who may have come into contact with the fellow from West Africa with Ebola who flew into Dallas, it appears we're talking about ~ 100 people rather than 12-18: The Texas health commissioner, Dr. David Lakey, told reporters during an afternoon news conference that officials had encountered “a little bit of hesitancy” in seeking a firm to clean the apartment. ... The delay came amid reports that as many as 100 people could have had contact with the victim, Thomas E. Duncan. And it came a day after the hospital acknowledged it had misdiagnosed him when he first visited. Apparently the apartment has not yet been disinfected, because Texas is having trouble finding a contractor to do the work. In light of the easy spread of the flu in the US and with this story in mind, I find ready assurances that Ebola will not spread in the US to be more aspirational than descriptive. Eric
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I wrote: Apparently the apartment has not yet been disinfected, because Texas is having trouble finding a contractor to do the work. ... Some more interesting details from the article I forgot to link to [1]: - The number of ~ 100 people who may have come into contact with the fellow with Ebola does not include secondary contacts. - Hospitals may not necessarily dispose of waste material for Ebola patients due to conflicting guidance from different federal agencies, so it may just be allowed to pile up. - Family members of the fellow were directed to stay at home but violated the order. - A family member of the man who went with him to the hospital the first time claims that he emphatically told workers that he had been in Liberia. This piece of information was not passed to the doctors who diagnosed him and sent him home; apparently they were confident enough in the entrance examination that they saw no need to follow up with the question on their own (this sounds a lot like the doctors passing the hot potato on to the nurses to avoid blame). Eric [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/us/dallas-ebola-case-thomas-duncan-contacts.html
Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart
A small diameter membrane to allow some internal radiation out seems like a nice feature in any test, which the professors would certainly consider. In an good test one should expect to see such a feature. The same should be expected for neutrons--a neutron window. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE SmartphoneBob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: The 3.6 keV x-ray photons are easily detected with an x-ray spectrometer such as the Amptek X-123SDD at http://www.amptek.com/products/x-123sdd-complete-x-ray-spectrometer-with-silicon-drift-detector-sdd/ . See their chart at this URL for the different window options that will easily allow detection down to 1 keV: http://www.amptek.com/products/c-series-low-energy-x-ray-windows/ . I am hoping to get one of these some day. The bigger issue is that not much will make it out of the hotCat even if that is the primary channel for conveying the heat. In the case of RF, I would expect almost none to escape the hotCat because the reaction is in a Faraday cage. The RF that could penetrate would have to be below 1 kHz. Bob Higgins On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Hoped for prediction – but unlikely due to technical limitations: evidence of the signature x-ray indicative of DDL/dark matter, in the range of 3.6 keV. Since there is no commercial meter for this spectrum, the x-ray would have to show up in some other clever way, such as film exposure – thus it is unlikely. Jones
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Does anyone have a number for a one quanta transition in spin energy in terms of IR wave length? Is it near the 11microms Jones has noted? Bob Cook Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE SmartphoneJones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: There is another version which no one talks about any more, which is housed in silicon carbide. This ceramic version was the one Rossi described in his tribute to Focardi as the breakthrough leading to the HotCat, after which, it was never mentioned again. I have been trying to find the reference for this, since Rossi apparently removed it from JoNP. E-Cat World still has the story of the Focardi tribute and the “incident at Brasimone” which at one time led me to believe that silicon carbide tubes were important. http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/06/22/sergio-focardi-dies/ Rossi quote: See you soon, my great Friend and Master Sergio! I will never forget our work together and that day in the Brasimone Nuclear facility. Apparently “that day” was when the HotCat first went operational. Rossi had said in the original story that the tube was silicon carbide, because that is what they had specialized in at Brasimone, ceramic plumbing for the Italian molten salt reactor. There is a very good technical reason why SiC could be important – plasmon polaritons. SiC emits a nearly coherent blackbody level which is most unique and it is exactly the wavelength NASA says is important. It could be coincidental, or the reference could have been removed from JoNP because it gave away too much. This paper shows the sharp emission peak at ~11 microns Infrared properties of SiC particles Mutschke et al. http://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/9903031.pdf The plasmon/polariton connection to THz radiation in the far IR spectrum could be one key to robust LENR, as we seem to find in the HotCat. The paper by Hagelstein, Cravens and Letts includes some of the theory which would tie it all together with IR photons at 11 micron resonance. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LettsDstimulatio.pdf However, since no reference ever appeared again to SiC, and all of the new HotCats seem to show stainless steel exterior, perhaps this detail will remain a false alarm, or else a mystery which will unfold in a couple of weeks. Jones
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8) wait a little. 2014-10-03 2:16 GMT+02:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: John – if COP of 6-10 is seen over an extended time period, much of the mainstream physics community will go into full apoplectic and anaphylactic shock. It may never recover from the embarrassment. I do not think the COP will make any difference. I do not think this report will have any effect on the scientific establishment, unless it is published in Nature. I am pretty sure it will not be in Nature! However, I think it may have a positive impact. It may shake loose more funding for the research. Funding is what we need most at this stage. Even more than recognition. Of course, with recognition would come funding, but also opposition which we do not need. If word gets out that cold fusion is now attracting tens of millions in research funding, then most of the academic opposition will vanish overnight. Researchers everywhere will be applying for grants to study it. As Stan Szpak says, scientists believe whatever you pay them to believe. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart
For an EM field to propagate, the electric and magnetic fields must be coupled. Once you stop the electric field, the magnetic field will also be stopped. At low enough frequencies, the penetration depth of the field will allow some EM field to escape, attenuated by the propagation through the metal. Even if SiC was used for the tubes, it would block most RF as SiC ceramic is a conductor, but a poor one. SiC is an expensive ceramic to make in the size of the hotCat and if Rossi were using this, it would probably price his hotCat out of the market for home devices. I don't believe he is using SiC in his hotCat - I believe the reactor core is stainless steel (as the Penon report describes) welded closed at the ends of the coaxial tubes. That doesn't mean he hasn't experimented with SiC. SiC is very hard to machine and it would be challenging and expensive to produce a coaxial reactor vessel (as shown in the Penon report) and seal its ends. Bob Higgins On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: NMR is caused by the vibration of the non-zero spin vector of a nucleus. This vibrating nuclear spin produces a vibrating magnetic field. The point of a Faraday cage is that it's made of a conductor, which responds to electric fields. Both a strong magnetostatic (DC) and Ac fields are different, and will barely be affected by the Faraday cage. (The cage may have some magnetic properties, but that's not what makes it a Faraday cage, and it's unlikely to have a significant impact on magnetic fields.) On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: I have posted the cross-section of the hotCat as I have surmised it to be constructed. The active medium is entirely in a hermetically sealed stainless coaxial tube arrangement. The reactor vessel itself IS the Faraday cage. It is not a part of the test, it is a part of the hotCat. Bob Higgins On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: How do you know that a faraday cage is part of the test? On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: The 3.6 keV x-ray photons are easily detected with an x-ray spectrometer such as the Amptek X-123SDD at http://www.amptek.com/products/x-123sdd-complete-x-ray-spectrometer-with-silicon-drift-detector-sdd/ . See their chart at this URL for the different window options that will easily allow detection down to 1 keV: http://www.amptek.com/products/c-series-low-energy-x-ray-windows/ . I am hoping to get one of these some day. The bigger issue is that not much will make it out of the hotCat even if that is the primary channel for conveying the heat. In the case of RF, I would expect almost none to escape the hotCat because the reaction is in a Faraday cage. The RF that could penetrate would have to be below 1 kHz.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart
I seriously doubt that in the TPT the experimenters would have been allowed to modify the hotCat. A membrane would have provided a continuous leak to the limited supply of H2 inside the hotCat; however, a thin area window would suffice if they could modify it. If the reaction produces high energy gamma, it will come right through the vessel, attenuated by the mass per square cm of the reactor vessel. So you don't need a window for high energy gamma. However, we know that high energy gamma cannot be the primary carrier of the heat because too much of the energy would escape the reactor vessel, and it would be dangerous to be around and easily measured. Low energy gamma (below 25 keV) may be a primary carrier of the heat because it would be highly attenuated by the reactor vessel (and thus thermalized). Measuring low energy gamma is difficult because it doesn't escape easily. To measure this, you either need to create a sensor that can be placed inside the reactor (and it would have to work with at the hotCat's high temperature); OR, you need to make your reactor vessel thin in a small spot (a window); OR, make your reactor vessel small, so that the whole containment vessel can be thin (this is what I am doing). Neutrons don't need a window - they will just come through. If the heat were carried by neutrons, the reactor vessel would not get hot because there is not enough mass and capture cross-section there to stop (thermalize) them. The neutrons would just be killing everyone around the reactor. Any few neutrons detected externally are definitely a useful clue about internal reactions, but fortunately few neutrons are ever detected. Bob Higgins On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:57 AM, frobertcook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: A small diameter membrane to allow some internal radiation out seems like a nice feature in any test, which the professors would certainly consider. In an good test one should expect to see such a feature. The same should be expected for neutrons--a neutron window. Bob
[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart
Isn't that the same as fully ionized H? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Fartphone - Reply message - From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart Date: Thu, Oct 2, 2014 11:49 PM On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: I predict a CoP of 2.6 and that the reactor accumulates a high positive charge even to the point of occasionally arcing to it's frame. (Actually, the arc path is from the frame to the reactor.) Just curious -- why the accumulation of positive charge? Eric
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On Oct 3, 2014, at 7:28, hohlr...@gmail.com hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't that the same as fully ionized H? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Fartphone - Reply message - From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart Date: Thu, Oct 2, 2014 11:49 PM On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: I predict a CoP of 2.6 and that the reactor accumulates a high positive charge even to the point of occasionally arcing to it's frame. (Actually, the arc path is from the frame to the reactor.) Just curious -- why the accumulation of positive charge? Eric
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On Oct 3, 2014, at 7:28, hohlr...@gmail.com hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't that the same as fully ionized H? The ionized electrons have to go somewhere when they're stripped from the H. Eric
Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://aip.org/tip/INPHFA/vol-7/iss-5/p24.pdf *How does magnetic shielding work?* All EMI shielding materials are manufac- tured from high-permeability alloys that con- tain about 80% nickel; the alloys vary in the composition of their remaining metals. They are usually fabricated as foils or sheets and are baked at 2,000 °F in a dry hydrogen-rich atmosphere to anneal them. Annealing sig- nificantly improves a material’s attenuation, that is, its ability to absorb and redirect mag- netic fields. A shielding alloy works by diverting a magnetic flux into itself. The alloy redirects the magnetic flux away from the sensitive object and returns it to the north–south field. Although the field from a magnet is greatly reduced by a shield plate, the protec- tive alloy itself is attracted to the magnet, but with no ill effects. Closed shapes are the most efficient for magnetic shielding—cylin- ders with caps, boxes with covers, and simi- lar enclosed shapes are the most effective (see figure). Magnetic shielding materials offer a very- high-permeability path for magnetic field lines to travel through, directing them through the thickness of the shielding alloy and keeping them from going where they are not wanted. It is important that the shield should offer a complete path for the field lines, so that they do not exit the mate- rial in a place where they will cause unin- tended interference. *What is the difference between RF shield -* *ing and magnetic shielding?* Ra d i o-frequency (RF) shielding is required when it is necessary to block high- frequency (100 kHz and above) interference fields. RF shields typically use copper, alu- minum, galvanized steel, or conductive rub- b e r, plastic, or paints. These materials work at high frequencies by means of their high c o n d u c t i v i t y. Unlike magnetic shields that use their high permeability to attract mag- netic fields, RF shielding has little or no magnetic permeability. However, when they are properly engineered and constructed, magnetic-shield alloys become broadband shields that protect against both EMI and RF interference. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: For an EM field to propagate, the electric and magnetic fields must be coupled. Once you stop the electric field, the magnetic field will also be stopped. At low enough frequencies, the penetration depth of the field will allow some EM field to escape, attenuated by the propagation through the metal. Even if SiC was used for the tubes, it would block most RF as SiC ceramic is a conductor, but a poor one. SiC is an expensive ceramic to make in the size of the hotCat and if Rossi were using this, it would probably price his hotCat out of the market for home devices. I don't believe he is using SiC in his hotCat - I believe the reactor core is stainless steel (as the Penon report describes) welded closed at the ends of the coaxial tubes. That doesn't mean he hasn't experimented with SiC. SiC is very hard to machine and it would be challenging and expensive to produce a coaxial reactor vessel (as shown in the Penon report) and seal its ends. Bob Higgins On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: NMR is caused by the vibration of the non-zero spin vector of a nucleus. This vibrating nuclear spin produces a vibrating magnetic field. The point of a Faraday cage is that it's made of a conductor, which responds to electric fields. Both a strong magnetostatic (DC) and Ac fields are different, and will barely be affected by the Faraday cage. (The cage may have some magnetic properties, but that's not what makes it a Faraday cage, and it's unlikely to have a significant impact on magnetic fields.) On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: I have posted the cross-section of the hotCat as I have surmised it to be constructed. The active medium is entirely in a hermetically sealed stainless coaxial tube arrangement. The reactor vessel itself IS the Faraday cage. It is not a part of the test, it is a part of the hotCat. Bob Higgins On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: How do you know that a faraday cage is part of the test? On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: The 3.6 keV x-ray photons are easily detected with an x-ray spectrometer such as the Amptek X-123SDD at http://www.amptek.com/products/x-123sdd-complete-x-ray-spectrometer-with-silicon-drift-detector-sdd/ . See their chart at this URL for the different window options that will easily allow detection down to 1 keV: http://www.amptek.com/products/c-series-low-energy-x-ray-windows/ . I am hoping to get one of these some day. The bigger issue is that not much will make it out of the hotCat even if that is the primary channel for conveying the heat. In the case of RF, I
Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart
Yes Axil, I am an RF engineer and I am aware of permalloy/supermalloy sheets used in EMI protection. These materials are added in sensitive instrument applications to shunt low frequency evanescent magnetic fields, not propagating RF EM fields. As I said, RF fields above about 1 kHz would be prevented from escaping from Rossi's hotCat by the hermetic stainless steel reactor enclosure acting as a Faraday cage. There will be no propagating RF escaping from the Rossi's reactor vessel. There is only the possibility of low frequency evanescent fields escaping. Bob Higgins On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://aip.org/tip/INPHFA/vol-7/iss-5/p24.pdf *How does magnetic shielding work?* All EMI shielding materials are manufac- tured from high-permeability alloys that con- tain about 80% nickel; the alloys vary in the composition of their remaining metals. They are usually fabricated as foils or sheets and are baked at 2,000 °F in a dry hydrogen-rich atmosphere to anneal them. Annealing sig- nificantly improves a material’s attenuation, that is, its ability to absorb and redirect mag- netic fields. A shielding alloy works by diverting a magnetic flux into itself. The alloy redirects the magnetic flux away from the sensitive object and returns it to the north–south field. Although the field from a magnet is greatly reduced by a shield plate, the protec- tive alloy itself is attracted to the magnet, but with no ill effects. Closed shapes are the most efficient for magnetic shielding—cylin- ders with caps, boxes with covers, and simi- lar enclosed shapes are the most effective (see figure). Magnetic shielding materials offer a very- high-permeability path for magnetic field lines to travel through, directing them through the thickness of the shielding alloy and keeping them from going where they are not wanted. It is important that the shield should offer a complete path for the field lines, so that they do not exit the mate- rial in a place where they will cause unin- tended interference. *What is the difference between RF shield -* *ing and magnetic shielding?* Ra d i o-frequency (RF) shielding is required when it is necessary to block high- frequency (100 kHz and above) interference fields. RF shields typically use copper, alu- minum, galvanized steel, or conductive rub- b e r, plastic, or paints. These materials work at high frequencies by means of their high c o n d u c t i v i t y. Unlike magnetic shields that use their high permeability to attract mag- netic fields, RF shielding has little or no magnetic permeability. However, when they are properly engineered and constructed, magnetic-shield alloys become broadband shields that protect against both EMI and RF interference.
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Dear Bob Unlike myself, it is great that you are an expert in this subject that greatly interests me. Please address this issue. Unlike the usual RF shielding applications using stainless steel, the Hot-Cat reaches 1000C without active heat removal. Bearing in mind that RF shielding protection is a function of the conductivity of the metal, the electrical resistance of stainless steel is a increasing function of temperature. How much RF protection is lost in a 1000C stainless steel faraday cage as a function of the increasing temperature of stainless steel. http://www.aksteel.com/pdf/markets_products/stainless/austenitic/304_304L_Data_Sheet.pdf Electrical Resistivity of 304 stainless in (microhm-cm) 68°F (20°C) – 28.4 (72) 1200°F (659°C) – 45.8 (116) On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Axil, I am an RF engineer and I am aware of permalloy/supermalloy sheets used in EMI protection. These materials are added in sensitive instrument applications to shunt low frequency evanescent magnetic fields, not propagating RF EM fields. As I said, RF fields above about 1 kHz would be prevented from escaping from Rossi's hotCat by the hermetic stainless steel reactor enclosure acting as a Faraday cage. There will be no propagating RF escaping from the Rossi's reactor vessel. There is only the possibility of low frequency evanescent fields escaping. Bob Higgins On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://aip.org/tip/INPHFA/vol-7/iss-5/p24.pdf *How does magnetic shielding work?* All EMI shielding materials are manufac- tured from high-permeability alloys that con- tain about 80% nickel; the alloys vary in the composition of their remaining metals. They are usually fabricated as foils or sheets and are baked at 2,000 °F in a dry hydrogen-rich atmosphere to anneal them. Annealing sig- nificantly improves a material’s attenuation, that is, its ability to absorb and redirect mag- netic fields. A shielding alloy works by diverting a magnetic flux into itself. The alloy redirects the magnetic flux away from the sensitive object and returns it to the north–south field. Although the field from a magnet is greatly reduced by a shield plate, the protec- tive alloy itself is attracted to the magnet, but with no ill effects. Closed shapes are the most efficient for magnetic shielding—cylin- ders with caps, boxes with covers, and simi- lar enclosed shapes are the most effective (see figure). Magnetic shielding materials offer a very- high-permeability path for magnetic field lines to travel through, directing them through the thickness of the shielding alloy and keeping them from going where they are not wanted. It is important that the shield should offer a complete path for the field lines, so that they do not exit the mate- rial in a place where they will cause unin- tended interference. *What is the difference between RF shield -* *ing and magnetic shielding?* Ra d i o-frequency (RF) shielding is required when it is necessary to block high- frequency (100 kHz and above) interference fields. RF shields typically use copper, alu- minum, galvanized steel, or conductive rub- b e r, plastic, or paints. These materials work at high frequencies by means of their high c o n d u c t i v i t y. Unlike magnetic shields that use their high permeability to attract mag- netic fields, RF shielding has little or no magnetic permeability. However, when they are properly engineered and constructed, magnetic-shield alloys become broadband shields that protect against both EMI and RF interference.
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Free electrons and those produced by heat induced dipole charge separation will be confined to the Surface Plasmon Polaritons (SPP - electron photon hybrid particles) solitons at the tips of the nickel nanowires and also between the solid crystal hydrogen Rydberg matter nano-particles as SPP solitons. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 3, 2014, at 7:28, hohlr...@gmail.com hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't that the same as fully ionized H? The ionized electrons have to go somewhere when they're stripped from the H. Eric
Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season
Finally! http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-symptoms-prompt-hospitals-to-brace-for-patients-amid-flu-season/ Hospitals brace for patients with Ebola worries People hear about flu symptoms, they're not paying attention, they haven't been near anybody with Ebola or in an Ebola country, they haven't had fluid contact, they're just nervous, so they show up, said Dr. Arthur Caplan, a medical ethics expert at New York University Langone Medical Center. It means more stressed-out workers, he said. It means more contagiousness of the flu -- sitting together in a hospital. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:07 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: ... It is not possible to tell at an early stage without extensive testing And: 1) They are shedding virus during this stage 2) There has been no mention of flu season in CDC documents about Ebola Of course they are concerned about the similarity! They have discussed this in the news. They recommended everyone get a vaccination, as I just said. Good. URL? I've been searching on Google news for weeks to no avail. 3) Let alone a model put forth of the impact of this on containment. Do you think the public would understand the model? Do you expect them to work a miracle by coming up with a magic method of instantly determining it is ebola? I expect them to modify their containment economics model not for the public but for funding agencies and other mobilizations.
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The entirety of their inertial mass is distributed via spin coupling. Or maybe not. - Reply message - From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart Date: Fri, Oct 3, 2014 11:03 AM The ionized electrons have to go somewhere when they're stripped from the H. Eric
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Now it turns out this patient #1 knew he was infected.. and just wanted world-class, spare-no-expense treatment in the US. I can't blame him. Time to cancel travel visas and ban non-humanitarian travel from infected countries. Some interesting tips and info at this site.. http://ebolaready.com/ On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:36 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: Apparently the apartment has not yet been disinfected, because Texas is having trouble finding a contractor to do the work. ... Some more interesting details from the article I forgot to link to [1]: The number of ~ 100 people who may have come into contact with the fellow with Ebola does not include secondary contacts. Hospitals may not necessarily dispose of waste material for Ebola patients due to conflicting guidance from different federal agencies, so it may just be allowed to pile up. Family members of the fellow were directed to stay at home but violated the order. A family member of the man who went with him to the hospital the first time claims that he emphatically told workers that he had been in Liberia. This piece of information was not passed to the doctors who diagnosed him and sent him home; apparently they were confident enough in the entrance examination that they saw no need to follow up with the question on their own (this sounds a lot like the doctors passing the hot potato on to the nurses to avoid blame). Eric [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/us/dallas-ebola-case-thomas-duncan-contacts.html
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The interesting thing about polaritons is that the constituent electrons lose most of their mass when the SPPs become entangled with photons. The polariton has just 10^^-11 times the mass of the electron that forms it. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM, hohlr...@gmail.com hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: The entirety of their inertial mass is distributed via spin coupling. Or maybe not. - Reply message - From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi Report will come, old paradigm will depart Date: Fri, Oct 3, 2014 11:03 AM The ionized electrons have to go somewhere when they're stripped from the H. Eric
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The US is susceptible to a Ebola outbreak because a large percentage of the population is health care adverse. This grope of poor people has no health insurance or cannot afford the expense of a long term hospital stay because of sickness. This substantial segment of the population will ignore a high fever hoping that the fever will abate eventually. Furthermore, the US hospital system has a low carrying capacity for Ebola victims because each hospital as just one or two isolation rooms available to confine new Ebola patents. There is a limit to the number of patients that the health system can support. Once the epidemic grows beyond that limit, total isolation of the sick is no longer possible with most victims roaming the streets as happens in Africa. A possible Ebola epidemic is one possible cost for society not providing a single payer government supported health care system. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Brad Lowe ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote: Now it turns out this patient #1 knew he was infected.. and just wanted world-class, spare-no-expense treatment in the US. I can't blame him. Time to cancel travel visas and ban non-humanitarian travel from infected countries. Some interesting tips and info at this site.. http://ebolaready.com/ On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:36 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: Apparently the apartment has not yet been disinfected, because Texas is having trouble finding a contractor to do the work. ... Some more interesting details from the article I forgot to link to [1]: The number of ~ 100 people who may have come into contact with the fellow with Ebola does not include secondary contacts. Hospitals may not necessarily dispose of waste material for Ebola patients due to conflicting guidance from different federal agencies, so it may just be allowed to pile up. Family members of the fellow were directed to stay at home but violated the order. A family member of the man who went with him to the hospital the first time claims that he emphatically told workers that he had been in Liberia. This piece of information was not passed to the doctors who diagnosed him and sent him home; apparently they were confident enough in the entrance examination that they saw no need to follow up with the question on their own (this sounds a lot like the doctors passing the hot potato on to the nurses to avoid blame). Eric [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/us/dallas-ebola-case-thomas-duncan-contacts.html
[Vo]:majorana-fermions
http://phys.org/news/2014-10-majorana-fermion-physicists-elusive-particle.html Majorana fermion: Physicists observe elusive particle that is its own antiparticle What is a particle anyway? Are these majorana-fermions actually solitons? Could this particle be a topological knot in a EMF spin liquid? How would we distinguish the EMF field emanations of a SPP soliton from that of a majorana-fermion? Are magnetic monopoles really majorana-fermions. Could what these researchers have found really be a SPP soliton that just look like a majorana-fermions? It seems that majorana-fermions are formed at the tips of superconducting nanowire. All thin nanowire (AKA one dimensional) are superconducting. Could majorana-fermions be formed at the tips of hydrogen crystal nanowires or at the ends of the water crystals that LeClair has seen his cavatation experiments? Could majorana-fermions be an important factor in LENR.
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In the movie Contagion, large public arenas are converted into triage and containment facilities. - Reply message - From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season Date: Fri, Oct 3, 2014 2:44 PM
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This was written in august before the current case of Ebola in the United Sates but it compares Ebola to other diseases which spread more easily. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/05/ebola-worrying-disease quote Far more worrying are diseases that spread exponentially: if one infected person spreads the disease to two or more on average, the illness spreads far quicker and is a much more worrying prospect, even if mortality is considerably lower. The 800-plus deaths from Ebola in Africa so far this year are indisputably tragic, but it is important to keep a sense of proportion – other infectious diseases are far, far deadlier. Since the Ebola outbreak began in February, around 300,000 people have died from malaria http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs094/en/, while tuberculosis http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs104/en/ has likely claimed over 600,000 lives. Ebola might have our attention, but it’s not even close to being the biggest problem in Africa right now. Even Lassa fever http://www.who.int/csr/disease/lassafever/en/, which shares many of the terrifying symptoms of Ebola (including bleeding from the eyelids), kills many more than Ebola – and frequently finds its way to the US http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2014/p0404-lassa-fever.html. The most real effect for millions of people reading about Ebola will be fear and stigma. During the Sars outbreak of 2003, Asian-Americans became the targets of just that, with public health hotlines inundated with calls from Americans worried about “buying Asian merchandise”, “living near Asians”, “going to school with Asians”, and more. In the coming months, almost none of us will catch the Ebola virus. Many of us, though, will get fevers, headaches, shivers and more. As planes get grounded, communities are stigmatised, and mildly sick people fear for their lives, it’s worth reflecting what the biggest threat to our collective wellbeing is: rare tropical diseases, or our terrible coverage of them. Harry On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:25 PM, hohlr...@gmail.com hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: In the movie Contagion, large public arenas are converted into triage and containment facilities. - Reply message - From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season Date: Fri, Oct 3, 2014 2:44 PM
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At 12:57 PM 10/3/2014, Axil Axil wrote: It seems that majorana-fermions are formed at the tips of superconducting nanowire. If you brought the tips of two nanowires together, would the two majoranas annihilate each other?
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Normally the resistivity of a metal is linear in degrees Kelvin. So, going from 300K to 1300K would cause a metal's resistance to increase by 1300/300 or a factor of 4.3. The RF skin depth will increase as the square root of this change or about 2. So, the leakage out of this Faraday cage will about double in amplitude (6 dB). In an ideal Faraday cage (ideal conductor), all of the RF is reflected back into the interior, none leaks out, and none is absorbed. In a real metal Faraday cage, most of the signal is reflected, the signal is attenuated substantially in going from inside to outside, and some of the power is absorbed in the metal. The amount that leaks out is proportional to the number of skin depths in thickness of the Faraday cage metal. The skin depth is 1/sqrt(pi F mu sigma), so it is inversely proportional to the square root of frequency. High frequencies have small skin depth and hence, the metal thickness being more skin depths in thickness, the signal transmitted is more attenuated going through the metal. Thus, low frequencies with big skin depths penetrate better and high RF frequencies penetrate less. That is why I said that it is unlikely that high RF frequencies would escape in a measurable way - given the thickness of the reactor metal (probably on the order of 1.5mm) above 100 kHz would probably be considered high frequency. And, as previously stated, about 6dB more will come out at 1000C than at room temp. Bob Higgins On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Bob Unlike myself, it is great that you are an expert in this subject that greatly interests me. Please address this issue. Unlike the usual RF shielding applications using stainless steel, the Hot-Cat reaches 1000C without active heat removal. Bearing in mind that RF shielding protection is a function of the conductivity of the metal, the electrical resistance of stainless steel is a increasing function of temperature. How much RF protection is lost in a 1000C stainless steel faraday cage as a function of the increasing temperature of stainless steel. http://www.aksteel.com/pdf/markets_products/stainless/austenitic/304_304L_Data_Sheet.pdf Electrical Resistivity of 304 stainless in (microhm-cm) 68°F (20°C) – 28.4 (72) 1200°F (659°C) – 45.8 (116) On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Axil, I am an RF engineer and I am aware of permalloy/supermalloy sheets used in EMI protection. These materials are added in sensitive instrument applications to shunt low frequency evanescent magnetic fields, not propagating RF EM fields. As I said, RF fields above about 1 kHz would be prevented from escaping from Rossi's hotCat by the hermetic stainless steel reactor enclosure acting as a Faraday cage. There will be no propagating RF escaping from the Rossi's reactor vessel. There is only the possibility of low frequency evanescent fields escaping. Bob Higgins On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://aip.org/tip/INPHFA/vol-7/iss-5/p24.pdf *How does magnetic shielding work?* All EMI shielding materials are manufac- tured from high-permeability alloys that con- tain about 80% nickel; the alloys vary in the composition of their remaining metals. They are usually fabricated as foils or sheets and are baked at 2,000 °F in a dry hydrogen-rich atmosphere to anneal them. Annealing sig- nificantly improves a material’s attenuation, that is, its ability to absorb and redirect mag- netic fields. A shielding alloy works by diverting a magnetic flux into itself. The alloy redirects the magnetic flux away from the sensitive object and returns it to the north–south field. Although the field from a magnet is greatly reduced by a shield plate, the protec- tive alloy itself is attracted to the magnet, but with no ill effects. Closed shapes are the most efficient for magnetic shielding—cylin- ders with caps, boxes with covers, and simi- lar enclosed shapes are the most effective (see figure). Magnetic shielding materials offer a very- high-permeability path for magnetic field lines to travel through, directing them through the thickness of the shielding alloy and keeping them from going where they are not wanted. It is important that the shield should offer a complete path for the field lines, so that they do not exit the mate- rial in a place where they will cause unin- tended interference. *What is the difference between RF shield -* *ing and magnetic shielding?* Ra d i o-frequency (RF) shielding is required when it is necessary to block high- frequency (100 kHz and above) interference fields. RF shields typically use copper, alu- minum, galvanized steel, or conductive rub- b e r, plastic, or paints. These materials work at high frequencies by means of their high c o n d u c t i v i t y. Unlike