Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit

2015-05-13 Thread mike fidler
Axil Axil
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=from:%22Axil+Axil%22
 Tue, 12 May 2015 13:40:01 -0700
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=date:20150512

I wonder if the resonant shape of the microwave cavity produces a pattern
of positive and negative vacuum energy that corresponds to the high and low
energy pattern of microwave radiationn produced by interference. The zone
of increased positive vacuum energy may produce longer lived virtual
particle whose lifetime is proportional to the false vacuum value
characterize by the zone of EMF excited vacuum.

The lifetimes of these long lived virtual particles may be long enough to

provide a reaction platform that meets that required by Newton’s laws.


Resonant shape of the microwave cavity produces a pattern
of positive and negative vacuum energy that corresponds to the high
and low energy pattern of microwave radiation produced by
interference, so what about using two sources of microwave radiation
to produce a phase locked virtual particle soliton.


Why aren't they using high power radar Klystron?


http://www.radartutorial.eu/08.transmitters/Klystron.en.html


[Vo]:

2015-05-13 Thread mike fidler
Resonant shape of the microwave cavity produces a pattern
of positive and negative vacuum energy that corresponds to the high
and low energy pattern of microwave radiation produced by
interference, so what about using two sources of microwave radiation
to produce a phase locked virtual particle soliton!


Why aren't they using high power radar Klystron?


http://www.radartutorial.eu/08.transmitters/Klystron.en.html


RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit

2015-05-13 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil, I not only agree but even suspect these increased positive vacuum zones 
would be subject to time dilation similar to the paradox twin in a deep gravity 
well. Your focus on positive vacuum pressure was insightful ;; I may have been 
wrongly focused on the negative zones due to my pet theories on ZPE wrt  nano 
powders/DCE ect, ect.. BUT you are probably correct that a “positive” pressure 
should be easier to exploit when searching for a region to push against.. a 
positive pressure should be the opposite of a negative pressure provided by 
Casimir geometry so instead of restricting longer vacuum wavelengths it should 
encourage them to exist longer..IMHO this is also what occurs when the Paradox 
twin approaches C or is subjected to a large equivalent gravity well.. the VP 
start to build up on the windshield faster than the ether stream can pull them 
away in the classic Pythagorean space to time relationship for time dilation 
and contraction. The question is how the force of radiation can be made to 
interact with these regions in a biased manner to unbalance equal and opposite 
reactions.. If your theory is correct than there should be opportunity to 
optimize geometry.. and perhaps a second rf source such that one is optimized 
for establishing the fields and the second is optimized for interaction in a 
biased manner.. IMHO the use of a single source RF for both establishing the 
regions and trying to interact with them is limiting their effect.
Fran

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 4:40 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the 
Theoretical Limit

I wonder if the resonant shape of the microwave cavity produces a pattern of 
positive and negative vacuum energy that corresponds to the high and low energy 
pattern of microwave radiationn produced by interference. The zone of increased 
positive vacuum energy may produce longer lived virtual particle whose lifetime 
is proportional to the false vacuum value characterize by the zone of EMF 
excited vacuum.

The lifetimes of these long lived virtual particles may be long enough to 
provide a reaction platform that meets that required by Newton’s laws.



Re: [Vo]:Curiousity from 1934

2015-05-13 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:54 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
wrote:


  Lots of spherical bodies in that read; I prefer heavenly bodies myself!

 J


You can have both:



I bought both S.I. and DirecTV from her and her white horse.  Hannah Davis
can sell anything!

Terry


RE: [Vo]:Curiousity from 1934

2015-05-13 Thread Jones Beene
A HotCat deluxe J

 

 

From: Terry Blanton 

 

 

 

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:54 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:

 

Lots of spherical bodies in that read; I prefer heavenly bodies myself!

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RE: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Innovation in North Korea

2015-05-13 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
I read that this latest Top Official simply fell asleep during one of Un’s 
speeches… his ‘napping’ was caught on a video cam!

Technology has its downside… :-/

-mark

 

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 12:34 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Innovation in North Korea

 

You do not see many innovative new ideas coming out of North Korea. But I must 
say, they do come up with unexpected ways to kill off top officials. Here is 
the latest headline from the New York Times:

North Korea Said to Execute a Top Official, With an Antiaircraft Gun

Previous reports describe killing top officials with mortar, and with a large 
pack of famished dogs.

 

It makes you wonder who would want to be a top official in North Korea. Other 
than the tip-top Boy Wonder himself.

 

North Korea is modeled on Stalinist Russia. My father was posted to Russia 
during World War II working for the US government. He said that in some cases a 
factory manager would fail to meet some goal, so they would take him out in the 
factory yard and shoot him with a firing squad. Then they would look around to 
find someone else to manage the factory. As you might expect, they often had 
difficulty finding anyone willing to take the job.

 

- Jed

 



Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Innovation in North Korea

2015-05-13 Thread Man on Bridges

Hi,

Not so much novel of them, but I think it clearly is to make with one 
single action a statement to both their domestic North Korean people and 
to their foreign world.

Domestic: Do your job or else ...
Foreign: See our great technology; you are warned or else ...

Kind regards,

Rob Dingemans

Jed Rothwell schreefs op 13-5-2015 om 21:33:
You do not see many innovative new ideas coming out of North Korea. 
But I must say, they do come up with unexpected ways to kill off top 
officials. Here is the latest headline from the New York Times:


/North Korea Said to Execute a Top Official, With an Antiaircraft Gun/

Previous reports describe killing top officials with mortar, and with 
a large pack of famished dogs.


It makes you wonder who would want to be a top official in North 
Korea. Other than the tip-top Boy Wonder himself.


North Korea is modeled on Stalinist Russia. My father was posted to 
Russia during World War II working for the US government. He said that 
in some cases a factory manager would fail to meet some goal, so they 
would take him out in the factory yard and shoot him with a firing 
squad. Then they would look around to find someone else to manage the 
factory. As you might expect, they often had difficulty finding anyone 
willing to take the job.


- Jed





[Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Innovation in North Korea

2015-05-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
You do not see many innovative new ideas coming out of North Korea. But I
must say, they do come up with unexpected ways to kill off top officials.
Here is the latest headline from the New York Times:

*North Korea Said to Execute a Top Official, With an Antiaircraft Gun*

Previous reports describe killing top officials with mortar, and with a
large pack of famished dogs.

It makes you wonder who would want to be a top official in North Korea.
Other than the tip-top Boy Wonder himself.

North Korea is modeled on Stalinist Russia. My father was posted to Russia
during World War II working for the US government. He said that in some
cases a factory manager would fail to meet some goal, so they would take
him out in the factory yard and shoot him with a firing squad. Then they
would look around to find someone else to manage the factory. As you might
expect, they often had difficulty finding anyone willing to take the job.

- Jed


Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit

2015-05-13 Thread Axil Axil
I believe that the LENR and EmDrive reactions are related. They both
involve the partitioning of the vacuum into positive and negative energy
zones.

Because of this connection with the manipulation of the vacuum as the
ultimate cause of these two reactions, t may be possible to use EmDrive
techniques to produce LENR and LENR techniques to produce EmDrive power.
Now wouldn’t that be sweet?

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Roarty, Francis X 
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:

  Axil, I not only agree but even suspect these increased positive vacuum
 zones would be subject to time dilation similar to the paradox twin in a
 deep gravity well. Your focus on positive vacuum pressure was insightful ;;
 I may have been wrongly focused on the negative zones due to my pet
 theories on ZPE wrt  nano powders/DCE ect, ect.. BUT you are probably
 correct that a “positive” pressure should be easier to exploit when
 searching for a region to push against.. a positive pressure should be the
 opposite of a negative pressure provided by Casimir geometry so instead of
 restricting longer vacuum wavelengths it should encourage them to exist
 longer..IMHO this is also what occurs when the Paradox twin approaches C or
 is subjected to a large equivalent gravity well.. the VP start to build up
 on the windshield faster than the ether stream can pull them away in the
 classic Pythagorean space to time relationship for time dilation and
 contraction. The question is how the force of radiation can be made to
 interact with these regions in a biased manner to unbalance equal and
 opposite reactions.. If your theory is correct than there should be
 opportunity to optimize geometry.. and perhaps a second rf source such that
 one is optimized for establishing the fields and the second is optimized
 for interaction in a biased manner.. IMHO the use of a single source RF for
 both establishing the regions and trying to interact with them is limiting
 their effect.

 Fran



 *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2015 4:40 PM
 *To:* vortex-l
 *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way
 above the Theoretical Limit



 I wonder if the resonant shape of the microwave cavity produces a pattern
 of positive and negative vacuum energy that corresponds to the high and low
 energy pattern of microwave radiationn produced by interference. The zone
 of increased positive vacuum energy may produce longer lived virtual
 particle whose lifetime is proportional to the false vacuum value
 characterize by the zone of EMF excited vacuum.



 The lifetimes of these long lived virtual particles may be long enough to
 provide a reaction platform that meets that required by Newton’s laws.






Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Innovation in North Korea

2015-05-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Ah yes! That was funny. I love this:

PS: Ask us about our retirement package.

Then again, maybe you don't want to know. It may involve ravenous dogs.

- Jed


RE: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit

2015-05-13 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Mixent:

 I suspect you are confusing centripetal and centrifugal. (They are
opposites).

I suspect your suspection is correct. I meant centrifugal.

A part-time dyslexic like me is occasionally prone to mangle or substitute
wording.

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
svjart.orionworks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks



[Vo]:OT fountain of youth?

2015-05-13 Thread francis
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/05/150513093609.htm

 



[Vo]:More than 5 times hotter as the Lugano Hot Cat?

2015-05-13 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear  Friends,

Just published:

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2011/08/two-proverbs-trying-to-support-what-i.html
It is about a celebration

Peter

-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


[Vo]:Dr M McKubre to talk at Lockheed Martin Palo Alto Colloquia on May 21

2015-05-13 Thread Alain Sepeda
Pietro F and Pelgrim 108 found that there will be a presentation by Michael
McKubre on LENR at Lockheed Martin Palo Alto Colloquia on May 21

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/ssc/atc/colloquia.html
http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/news/index.php/News/92-Lockheed-Martin-Palo-Alto-Colloquia-May-21-%E2%80%93-Low-Energy-Nuclear-Reactions-LENR-D/

does anyone have more information on that event ?

It seems a video/audio broadcast...


Re: [Vo]:Dr M McKubre to talk at Lockheed Martin Palo Alto Colloquia on May 21

2015-05-13 Thread Peter Gluck
See please Ego Out of today.
We can ask Mike about details.

Peter

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Pietro F and Pelgrim 108 found that there will be a presentation by
 Michael McKubre on LENR at Lockheed Martin Palo Alto Colloquia on May 21

 http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/ssc/atc/colloquia.html

 http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/news/index.php/News/92-Lockheed-Martin-Palo-Alto-Colloquia-May-21-%E2%80%93-Low-Energy-Nuclear-Reactions-LENR-D/

 does anyone have more information on that event ?

 It seems a video/audio broadcast...





-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


Re: [Vo]:Dr M McKubre to talk at Lockheed Martin Palo Alto Colloquia on May 21

2015-05-13 Thread Alain Sepeda
thanks, I integrated those new data

2015-05-13 18:59 GMT+02:00 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com:

 See please Ego Out of today.
 We can ask Mike about details.

 Peter

 On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Pietro F and Pelgrim 108 found that there will be a presentation by
 Michael McKubre on LENR at Lockheed Martin Palo Alto Colloquia on May 21

 http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/ssc/atc/colloquia.html

 http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/news/index.php/News/92-Lockheed-Martin-Palo-Alto-Colloquia-May-21-%E2%80%93-Low-Energy-Nuclear-Reactions-LENR-D/

 does anyone have more information on that event ?

 It seems a video/audio broadcast...





 --
 Dr. Peter Gluck
 Cluj, Romania
 http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com



RE: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Innovation in North Korea

2015-05-13 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Jed, and all

 

Reminds me of...

 

https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg87852.html

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

svjart.orionworks.com

zazzle.com/orionworks