Re: [Vo]:LENR deployment methods

[Axil Axil]

Rossi now joins the chorus of LENR developers who recognise the dangers
inherent in high power output LENR reactors. Rossi joins ME356 and eros in
advising caution based on their observation of LENR performance
characteristics. Both both Rossi and eros has suffered serious health
issues when in close contact with their reactors.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 5:08 PM, a.ashfield  wrote:

> Axil,  I doubt the QuarkX is that dangerous.  It is not like it could
> cause a nuclear explosion.
> Rossi seems to think The QuarkX is the future and the real problem is him
> being tied up in a legal battle.
> In answer to a comment on anther thread, suggesting that because IH
> claimed they had tried and failed, consider that MIT and Caltech concluded
> that Fleischmann & Pons could not be replicated 0  and we now know it can
> be.
> I don't see IH giving up without getting their hands on the Quark
> technology.
> AA
>
>
> On 9/20/2016 4:40 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
>
>> Norman
>> September 20, 2016 at 7:28 AM
>> Dear Andrea Rossi:
>> Update of the work on the QuarkX?
>> Cheers,
>> Norman
>>
>> Andrea Rossi
>> September 20, 2016 at 8:29 AM
>> Norman:
>> Still in very good standing, but also still dangerous. Working mainly on
>> safety issues now.
>> Warm Regards,
>> A.R.
>>
>> If seems that LENR reactors are not as inherently safe as we all once
>> thought. But the safe deployment of LENR technology could still be
>> accommodated into the current power infrastructure.
>>
>> The development of ocean deployment of huge wind turbines will serve LENR
>> reactor deployment well. A safe method of LENR deployment will entail the
>> use of those floating platforms located just off shore.
>>
>> The technical feasibility of deepwater floating LENR platforms will not
>> be questioned, as the long-term survivability of floating structures has
>> been successfully demonstrated by the marine and offshore oil industries
>> over many decades. However, the economics that allowed the deployment of
>> thousands of offshore oil rigs have yet to be demonstrated for floating
>> LENR reactor platforms. For deepwater wind turbines, a floating structure
>> will replace pile-driven monopoles or conventional concrete bases that are
>> commonly used as foundations for shallow water and land-based reactors. The
>> floating structure must provide enough buoyancy to support the weight of
>> the reactor as a function of its size and power production rating and to
>> restrain pitch, roll and heave motions within acceptable limits.
>>
>> Since muon shielding is so problematic, distance from any population is
>> the one dependable risk mitigation method.
>>
>> The distance of LENR deployment offshore would be a function of the range
>> of muon travel before decay and the inverse square law dilution of muon
>> density together with safe muon exposure limits.
>>
>> The floating LENR reactor will be bigger than a sea buoy, but smaller
>> than a floating wind turbine. Robotize remote controlled maintence could
>> allow for human free maintenance of the LENR reactor such as refueling. The
>> activated waste fuel could be dumped into the deep water or dissolved in
>> acid.
>>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:LENR deployment methods

[a.ashfield]

Axil,  I doubt the QuarkX is that dangerous.  It is not like it could 
cause a nuclear explosion.
Rossi seems to think The QuarkX is the future and the real problem is 
him being tied up in a legal battle.
In answer to a comment on anther thread, suggesting that because IH 
claimed they had tried and failed, consider that MIT and Caltech 
concluded that Fleischmann & Pons could not be replicated 0  and we now 
know it can be.
I don't see IH giving up without getting their hands on the Quark 
technology.

AA

On 9/20/2016 4:40 PM, Axil Axil wrote:

Norman
September 20, 2016 at 7:28 AM
Dear Andrea Rossi:
Update of the work on the QuarkX?
Cheers,
Norman

Andrea Rossi
September 20, 2016 at 8:29 AM
Norman:
Still in very good standing, but also still dangerous. Working mainly 
on safety issues now.

Warm Regards,
A.R.

If seems that LENR reactors are not as inherently safe as we all once 
thought. But the safe deployment of LENR technology could still be 
accommodated into the current power infrastructure.


The development of ocean deployment of huge wind turbines will serve 
LENR reactor deployment well. A safe method of LENR deployment will 
entail the use of those floating platforms located just off shore.


The technical feasibility of deepwater floating LENR platforms will 
not be questioned, as the long-term survivability of floating 
structures has been successfully demonstrated by the marine and 
offshore oil industries over many decades. However, the economics that 
allowed the deployment of thousands of offshore oil rigs have yet to 
be demonstrated for floating LENR reactor platforms. For deepwater 
wind turbines, a floating structure will replace pile-driven monopoles 
or conventional concrete bases that are commonly used as foundations 
for shallow water and land-based reactors. The floating structure must 
provide enough buoyancy to support the weight of the reactor as a 
function of its size and power production rating and to restrain 
pitch, roll and heave motions within acceptable limits.


Since muon shielding is so problematic, distance from any population 
is the one dependable risk mitigation method.


The distance of LENR deployment offshore would be a function of the 
range of muon travel before decay and the inverse square law dilution 
of muon density together with safe muon exposure limits.


The floating LENR reactor will be bigger than a sea buoy, but smaller 
than a floating wind turbine. Robotize remote controlled maintence 
could allow for human free maintenance of the LENR reactor such as 
refueling. The activated waste fuel could be dumped into the deep 
water or dissolved in acid.

Re: [Vo]:LENR deployment methods

[Stephen A. Lawrence]

So now we're posting science fiction here?

(Or does stuff from Rossi count as pure fantasy rather than sci-fi?)

On 09/20/2016 04:40 PM, Axil Axil wrote:

Norman
September 20, 2016 at 7:28 AM
Dear Andrea Rossi:
Update of the work on the QuarkX?
Cheers,
Norman

Andrea Rossi
September 20, 2016 at 8:29 AM
Norman:
Still in very good standing, but also still dangerous. Working mainly 
on safety issues now.

Warm Regards,
A.R.

If seems that LENR reactors are not as inherently safe as we all once 
thought. But the safe deployment of LENR technology could still be 
accommodated into the current power infrastructure.


The development of ocean deployment of huge wind turbines will serve 
LENR reactor deployment well. A safe method of LENR deployment will 
entail the use of those floating platforms located just off shore.


The technical feasibility of deepwater floating LENR platforms will 
not be questioned, as the long-term survivability of floating 
structures has been successfully demonstrated by the marine and 
offshore oil industries over many decades. However, the economics that 
allowed the deployment of thousands of offshore oil rigs have yet to 
be demonstrated for floating LENR reactor platforms. For deepwater 
wind turbines, a floating structure will replace pile-driven monopoles 
or conventional concrete bases that are commonly used as foundations 
for shallow water and land-based reactors. The floating structure must 
provide enough buoyancy to support the weight of the reactor as a 
function of its size and power production rating and to restrain 
pitch, roll and heave motions within acceptable limits.


Since muon shielding is so problematic, distance from any population 
is the one dependable risk mitigation method.


The distance of LENR deployment offshore would be a function of the 
range of muon travel before decay and the inverse square law dilution 
of muon density together with safe muon exposure limits.


The floating LENR reactor will be bigger than a sea buoy, but smaller 
than a floating wind turbine. Robotize remote controlled maintence 
could allow for human free maintenance of the LENR reactor such as 
refueling. The activated waste fuel could be dumped into the deep 
water or dissolved in acid.

[Vo]:LENR deployment methods

[Axil Axil]

Norman
September 20, 2016 at 7:28 AM
Dear Andrea Rossi:
Update of the work on the QuarkX?
Cheers,
Norman

Andrea Rossi
September 20, 2016 at 8:29 AM
Norman:
Still in very good standing, but also still dangerous. Working mainly on
safety issues now.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

If seems that LENR reactors are not as inherently safe as we all once
thought. But the safe deployment of LENR technology could still be
accommodated into the current power infrastructure.

The development of ocean deployment of huge wind turbines will serve LENR
reactor deployment well. A safe method of LENR deployment will entail the
use of those floating platforms located just off shore.

The technical feasibility of deepwater floating LENR platforms will not be
questioned, as the long-term survivability of floating structures has been
successfully demonstrated by the marine and offshore oil industries over
many decades. However, the economics that allowed the deployment of
thousands of offshore oil rigs have yet to be demonstrated for floating
LENR reactor platforms. For deepwater wind turbines, a floating structure
will replace pile-driven monopoles or conventional concrete bases that are
commonly used as foundations for shallow water and land-based reactors. The
floating structure must provide enough buoyancy to support the weight of
the reactor as a function of its size and power production rating and to
restrain pitch, roll and heave motions within acceptable limits.

Since muon shielding is so problematic, distance from any population is the
one dependable risk mitigation method.

The distance of LENR deployment offshore would be a function of the range
of muon travel before decay and the inverse square law dilution of muon
density together with safe muon exposure limits.

The floating LENR reactor will be bigger than a sea buoy, but smaller than
a floating wind turbine. Robotize remote controlled maintence could allow
for human free maintenance of the LENR reactor such as refueling. The
activated waste fuel could be dumped into the deep water or dissolved in
acid.

[Vo]:a coming movie and LENR info

[Peter Gluck]

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/09/sep-20-2016-lenr-coming-movie-and-info.html

to do with pleasure what you must do anyway, is useful


peter
-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

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